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On March 24 2018 12:07 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 12:03 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty null of Dis and Moosy right now.
So this is my current scum pool.
KelsierSC
ykl
n00bking
Fecalfeast
Though tbf I need to re-read KSC, same as a few people have mentioned I just haven't seen anything from him and legit forgot he was in the game for a bit.
I'm still super on board a NK lynch. Why YKL? He is pretty new, have you factored that in? I saw him as scummy earlier. I do not remember why. But I retracted it when I filtered him.
His latest posts have all been really passive.
Like here is his last 2 posts.
On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Ok yeah, I'm finally back. Kinda got stuck with some RL stuff last 2 days. Just kinda quickly read up the last few pages.
Quick reply to n00bking firstly:
I was kind of hesitating on the first day vote, that was quite terrible and came about since I woke up at 6am trying to do a last minute decision before the deadline at 7am my time. Probably not the best of ideas. I made a snap judgement between the front runners and it was pretty much that. I'm also not too sure where you're reading fear from tbh, I've been nothing but very open and the fear/dodging that you want to attribute to me was more lack of time just having to keep up with the thread.
And also: "instead" of putting your vote on me.
So general game stuff:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track, there's probably a pool of KelsierSC, Koshi, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, ticktock, fecalfeast there? I'd try and filter them out one by one later to take a look.
Can anyone point out which page was the start of the rels push, I want reread what the heck happened there since I was slightly sleep dazed and reading off a tablet.
On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 19:35 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track What would lead you to this assumption? Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion. Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration.
Nothing comes from his list of people to look into, but has this weird "tell me what to do" line directed at noobking in the 2n'd post. Still no follow up.
I pointed out the 2n'd post earlier.
On March 24 2018 05:33 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:On March 23 2018 19:35 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track What would lead you to this assumption? Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion. Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration. Noting this post, especially if there is nothing else from y’all after this. This first bit is fine, but I don’t like him calling himself stupid. Feels like he is downplaying his own impact on the game. Sorta a “don’t expect much from me” thing. Jumping from “they were killed because they were right” into “killed kus they were wrong to sow confusion” feels off too. The next best explanation should simply be because they were well townread and not easy mid lynched. The last bit is what really bugs me though, and why I’ll be keeping an eye out for follow up posts from ykl. Waaaayyyyy too passive and is basically asking to be given something to talk about. I can understand being overwhelmed as Town and not knowing where to start, but this feels more like overwhelmed mafia not having a clue what to post.
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On March 23 2018 23:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 23:28 Conversion wrote:
To be fair, that's what I was going to do yet people want to shit on my behavior anyways.
Too-da-loo ~ if I don't get my MK request fulfilled I guess I'll just start breaking rules also as I said I haven't read like 60%+ of the game so I had no idea, I went back through ksc's filter to find what you meant, and yeah, it's kinda shitty of him. Mafia is an emotional game. You will be called stupid, ignorant, bad, worthless a variation of any of those.. If you can't take that you probably shouldn't be playing. The nature of the game is such that it's emotional, people get invested in their reads and sometimes the game feels unjust. However, there's no real need to bring in discrimination. You can get your point across without that.
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Ok it was about conversion
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On March 24 2018 12:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 23:27 Palmar wrote:
To be fair, when you can be meta'd on your ragequits, maybe it's time to chill out a bit. ... + Show Spoiler +I don’t know whether this is about me or Conversion
This one was about conversion. 100%
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On March 24 2018 03:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know why slam ragequit? I read the last posts of his filter but I don’t really understand what pissed him off
Ok.
I see palmar.
Now I look into Noobking. Perhaps I have been wrong and he has been unlucky?
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On March 24 2018 11:41 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 06:19 darthfoley wrote:On March 24 2018 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
I work in 7. Cyall later Who's your favorite smasher? Ness- but used to be Peach. For Project M, I play Zero Suit Samus or Ness.
it's all about that knee of justice my man
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On March 24 2018 12:22 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 12:12 Alakaslam wrote:
As per Holyflare, I will look into Palmar and vote Ticktock. I will probably forever call you scum this game this game if you actually read the game and leave your vote on me. Fair warning.
Hey now.
Wait. I also have some patience
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On March 24 2018 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Regarding this i actually have one thing to say.
darthfoley, since i have completely forgotten what i think your alignment is do you remember who was the guy who said one or both of us have to be mafia? Basically he called the argument between us "forced" but couldn't tell if we are both mafia (which is always the case if an argument is forced). But then he added the "if not both at least one" which is completely bs since if a townie and mafia are arguing and you cannot tell which one of those is mafia then it is equally likely the argument is TvS than that it is TvT.
Yes I remember what you're talking about but I can't remember who it was. I'll try to find it
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On March 24 2018 12:41 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 11:41 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2018 06:19 darthfoley wrote:On March 24 2018 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
I work in 7. Cyall later Who's your favorite smasher? Ness- but used to be Peach. For Project M, I play Zero Suit Samus or Ness. it's all about that knee of justice my man
There is much to be said for the flying fist that has the punch of Chupazi
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On March 24 2018 12:19 Tictock wrote:Yea just glancing through a bit of KSC's filter. Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:28 KelsierSC wrote:
why are we acting like fucking retards all of a sudden and going oprah on our votes.
df, moosy , dis if you dont believe the claim are the only real choices.
I don't understand the mocsta voting at all.
Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:38 KelsierSC wrote:
voting is pretty interesting here, Im tempted to vote mocsta because if he flips scum then like most of the scum are on this conversion vote.
Moosy jumping on it at the end is really fucking dumpster.
Pretty big change in stance on Mocsta, with not many posts happening between. And Conversion too? Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
or they were worried about df being lynched...
this conversion wagon is really fucking bad lol Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:43 KelsierSC wrote:
i dont want like 3 wagons competing with conversions wagon
keep it clean
vote df or conversion of give a real fucking good reason why you are wasting your vote. Honestly all I read here was pg 5 of KSC's filter and I feel like the dude never gave a shit about how EoD went. Only consistent scumread is DF, but mostly what he was doing was just shouting at everyone and calling them bad, while flip slopping his own reads all over the place. Solid lynch right here.
Yes, yes! Let it flow through you.
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On March 24 2018 12:36 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 12:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2018 12:03 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty null of Dis and Moosy right now.
So this is my current scum pool.
KelsierSC
ykl
n00bking
Fecalfeast
Though tbf I need to re-read KSC, same as a few people have mentioned I just haven't seen anything from him and legit forgot he was in the game for a bit.
I'm still super on board a NK lynch. Why YKL? He is pretty new, have you factored that in? I saw him as scummy earlier. I do not remember why. But I retracted it when I filtered him. His latest posts have all been really passive. Like here is his last 2 posts. Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Ok yeah, I'm finally back. Kinda got stuck with some RL stuff last 2 days. Just kinda quickly read up the last few pages.
Quick reply to n00bking firstly:
I was kind of hesitating on the first day vote, that was quite terrible and came about since I woke up at 6am trying to do a last minute decision before the deadline at 7am my time. Probably not the best of ideas. I made a snap judgement between the front runners and it was pretty much that. I'm also not too sure where you're reading fear from tbh, I've been nothing but very open and the fear/dodging that you want to attribute to me was more lack of time just having to keep up with the thread.
And also: "instead" of putting your vote on me.
So general game stuff:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track, there's probably a pool of KelsierSC, Koshi, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, ticktock, fecalfeast there? I'd try and filter them out one by one later to take a look.
Can anyone point out which page was the start of the rels push, I want reread what the heck happened there since I was slightly sleep dazed and reading off a tablet. Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:On March 23 2018 19:35 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track What would lead you to this assumption? Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion. Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration. Nothing comes from his list of people to look into, but has this weird "tell me what to do" line directed at noobking in the 2n'd post. Still no follow up. I pointed out the 2n'd post earlier. Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 05:33 Tictock wrote:On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:On March 23 2018 19:35 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track What would lead you to this assumption? Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion. Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration. Noting this post, especially if there is nothing else from y’all after this. This first bit is fine, but I don’t like him calling himself stupid. Feels like he is downplaying his own impact on the game. Sorta a “don’t expect much from me” thing. Jumping from “they were killed because they were right” into “killed kus they were wrong to sow confusion” feels off too. The next best explanation should simply be because they were well townread and not easy mid lynched. The last bit is what really bugs me though, and why I’ll be keeping an eye out for follow up posts from ykl. Waaaayyyyy too passive and is basically asking to be given something to talk about. I can understand being overwhelmed as Town and not knowing where to start, but this feels more like overwhelmed mafia not having a clue what to post.
That is all what i’d expect from a newbie in a full game though
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On March 24 2018 12:42 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 12:41 darthfoley wrote:On March 24 2018 11:41 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2018 06:19 darthfoley wrote:On March 24 2018 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
I work in 7. Cyall later Who's your favorite smasher? Ness- but used to be Peach. For Project M, I play Zero Suit Samus or Ness. it's all about that knee of justice my man There is much to be said for the flying fist that has the punch of Chupazi
Real Chupazi
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On March 21 2018 08:44 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 04:03 rsoultin wrote:
Problem is, I don't really expect people to get my Slam read. I just think that it's probably right.
Okay...soo....if people aren't going to get your slam read, then what keeps your vote on him from being wasted? Let's say we did get additional votes on Alakaslam. Is his reaction to the added pressure likely to help you further a read on him? Or give you anything you CAN use to convince others? Or would he just post more youtube videos, regardless of alignment, and everyone shrugs and says they can't get a read on him because he's not doing anything?
This struck me as very town.
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On March 21 2018 16:42 n00bKing wrote:Mentioned that I wasn't sure how to "unlock" Alakaslam and make him productive. Not sure if I "unlocked" him or "broke" him...but...something's happening, at least. Regardless of what happens for the rest of the game, signing up was worth it just to see this post: Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 14:09 Alakaslam wrote:
What’s also sucks is I am a terrible communicator. Like I can see that the white truck doesn’t have a brake booster problem, but a master cylinder problem but I’m so inarticulate (and not a mechanic) that I actually convinced our mechanic he was right
So now the truck has a new brake booster and a newer master cylinder :3
Haha yes I remember this.
That did happen. BUT I was right. That matters for something.
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Getting sleepy so just going over FF's filter a bit as well before bed.
Early Reads w/explanation
On March 21 2018 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
I've skimmed up while I'm supposed tk be working.
Towny
Palmar
Rso
Hf
Didform
Not towny
Kelsier
Noobking
Moose
Back to work ask me why if you must
Then these are pretty bleh,
On March 22 2018 01:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
So we believe mocstas vig claim right? Ive had him as scummy in my brain but that d1 claim though
On March 22 2018 01:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well then i scumread mocsta and am pocketed by hf.
Why is disfo more scum than nk, sheepdog hf?
FF gives more convoluted shit on Mocsta, but keeps saying he will sheep HF.
On March 22 2018 01:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
So mocsta says he's staying on noobking, sees that I'm voting noobking so changes his vote to rels and says I'm getting vigged but doesn't include me in his lynch list?
On March 22 2018 01:30 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 01:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
So mocsta says he's staying on noobking, sees that I'm voting noobking so changes his vote to rels and says I'm getting vigged but doesn't include me in his lynch list?
Also he says mafia is looking for any town lynch, implies I'm scum by not voting with me which means I'm looking for easy town lynch on noobking but still keeps noobking in his lynch list
This is a weird flip on Vivax who I haven't seen in FF's filter before.
On March 22 2018 04:05 Fecalfeast wrote: that would mean my usually pretty accurate early gut reads are wrong though vivax That would make me sad
On March 22 2018 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
This is my only break til deadline and i have no idea what's going on... can we lynch vivax On March 22 2018 07:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think vivax and hf are town and its hard to decide who to sheep
Overall was super active at EoD but just adding in confusion. Biggest thing that stood out to me was the sudden scumread and the convoluted bit about Mocsta's voting. Then the odd back and forth on Vivax.
Skimming stuff since then a bit faster...
On March 23 2018 06:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
Definitely not a koshi tier read i should be scummy coinflip at best
Since I had to look it up, Koshi put FF as a scum read, which is basically a Scummy coinflip.
On March 23 2018 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
So if nobody claims vivax as a vig shot I'm going to assume he was correct about a player most everyone else is townreading
Weird post. I missed Mocsta's EoN claim but still assumed Exo was the obv Vig shot.
On March 24 2018 02:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
Deadline is tomorrow right?
I want to lynch rso
Left field switch. FF started off the day sheeping HF and voting me.
On March 24 2018 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 02:48 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 24 2018 02:38 disformation wrote:On March 24 2018 02:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
Deadline is tomorrow right?
I want to lynch rso yes. why? Seems mafia to me Alternatively I'll sheep onto noobking
In some ways there is a bunch of stuff here that looks like typical shit teir FF, but there is basically no shits given from him at all. How active he got at EoD but mostly just stirring things up and constantly deferring responsibility doesn't feel right for a town!FF sheeping a strong townread.
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idk, that FF read is prob a touch biased
I didn't see much in his filter that jumped at me as towny though
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On March 24 2018 09:44 Tictock wrote:
Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy.
You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game.
I am not interested in lynching him in this Phase.
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On March 24 2018 10:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 08:15 n00bKing wrote:On March 24 2018 01:03 Tictock wrote:On March 23 2018 18:36 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 08:11 Tictock wrote:
Just checking flips before I finish reading (note I still have not read pgs 40-70 or w/e)
Guess I can let that HF stuff go.
Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?
Assuming for a moment that that was all mafia KP then I think 5 mafia is a safe bet (6 just seems like too much for 20 players).
Noting for myself to look into who Vivax was scum reading. This feels astoundingly contrived. Why would someone post about the flips while admitting they aren't caught up enough on the thread to know anything about what they mean? Kus I knew what time it was, and it saved me from fruitlessly responding to several of HF’s posts. There wouldn't be any risk of fruitlessly responding to a dead HF, if you just didn't post until you'd read. And being saved from fruitlessly responding to a dead HF didn't save you from fruitlessly making posts about the flips while having no context. eg "Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?" If you just read before you posted, you would have seen that mocsta had said he was vig-killing Exo. So, why would a TOWN player feel any need to post reactions to the flips, if he hadn't read the rest of the thread yet, and had no context to work with? I see absolutely no reason for a town player to do this. However, it is comparatively easier for me to pick out the scum motivation for trying to sound like you've not read the thread when you actually have. Lmao You think I’m scum pretending that I haven’t read the game?
Do you have an alternative explanation?
Like I said, if you were scum, I am able to figure out a reason why your post exists. If you're town, I don't know why your post exists. Why does your post exist?
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On March 24 2018 10:53 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2018 09:44 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this
But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion? More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion? Yay a non WoT to quote. Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy. You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game. And if you try to give me some shit kus I didn’t repaond to something you asked me you will have to ask it again. I only skim some of your posts. What do you think of the above post by noobking? Why do you quote a post you actually say nothing about? Idk why but I felt like I needed to quote one of his posts to ask the question as seeing him posting made me want to ask. The post itself is completely useless as it can’t possibly go anywhere. So you don't feel like he is misrepresenting the situation at all? Like Conversion who modkilled himself and me and whoever else he was talking aabout all the same? Considering the initial quote from Mocsta was prior to the modkill I was kinda assuming noob didn't know about that. Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont either know why would nayone ever make that post as town. You talking about my reading the flips post? Kus I explained exactly why. How could a town resist getting that kind of info about the game even if they are still catching up? If nothing else I guess you have to flip me to find the town who would do that. Makes no sense to me why I would continue reading when I could open a new tab, click the last pg in the game and see the daypost.
Yikes. This response is really, really bad. No one said they don't know why you would go look at the flips. They said they don't know why you would make your super-contrived sounding POST about them, instead of waiting to post until after you had read the thread and would actually have any context to use in what you say. Under no circumstances should I be needing to explain this to you. You look as though you are failing to understand, on purpose.
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On March 24 2018 11:53 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 08:54 n00bKing wrote:On March 24 2018 08:39 Mocsta wrote:On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this
But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion? More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion? Who cares Mafia might quit irl to team mates But i cant see mafia ever rage quitting Instead its a concede or stop posting Rage quit is how ya stop posting. You haven't seen mafia rage quit before??? I've seen mafia employ this tactic more than once in the same GAME, before. Of course, it's a fake rage quit, so they come back. Know anyone who said they were bailing on this game or "weren't going to play Day 2" but then came back? On March 24 2018 08:39 Mocsta wrote:
Slam and ryan arent lynch candidates today lol, and why is that? Yes, yes I see how it looks like Blazinghand going to dinner. But things do happen in IRL. I’m surprised someone like you sees that as alignment indicative. Plus, you can look at why someone quits. How does my quit benefit me as a member of the mafia? Since there is no benefit whatsoever (it certainly didn’t help my goals- I simply proved my unreliability) it is NAI.
The benefit is that you give yourself cover for not taking positions, not voting, and not even posting. And as I said before, it sets the stage for you to continue to be allowed to get away with not doing much, for fear that if we pressure you, you will take your ball and go home, and we will potentially lose whatever value you could have contributed, if we were simply "nicer."
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On March 24 2018 12:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 12:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2018 12:03 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty null of Dis and Moosy right now.
So this is my current scum pool.
KelsierSC
ykl
n00bking
Fecalfeast
Though tbf I need to re-read KSC, same as a few people have mentioned I just haven't seen anything from him and legit forgot he was in the game for a bit.
I'm still super on board a NK lynch. Why YKL? He is pretty new, have you factored that in? I saw him as scummy earlier. I do not remember why. But I retracted it when I filtered him. It's because he's new that he's just as likely to flip scum as he is town to be honest. I think he's scum
Why do you think he's scum?
And while we're at it, I'll bump this:
On March 23 2018 18:34 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 08:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Either Mocsta is vig and he gave a bad shot and rsoultin/darthfoley are mafia or Mocsta is mafia and rsoultin/darthfoley are town Explain this inverse relationship.
and this:
On March 23 2018 18:40 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If Mocsta is vig then Koshi is probably Mafia. Why?
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