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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 23 2018 23:59 GMT
#2301
I didn't get as drunk as i thought so i might have time before watching a movie with cake.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:03 GMT
#2302
On March 24 2018 08:49 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 08:37 Mocsta wrote:
##2279 is rubbish

The only person who said same allignment between kelsier and exo is me

Literally one or two others said tvt

lulz?

*You* thought they were likely both the same alignment (and said so). *I* thought they were likely both the same alignment (and said so). Vivax thought they were likely both the same alignment (and said so). And that's just off the top of my head. Could have been more people who said things that were similar. But *nobody* was looking at it from the outside and saying they thought it was TvS, that I recall.

This is a stupid argument and you should stop.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:09 GMT
#2303
You cannot tell if an argument is TvS or TvT. It is literally impossible if you phrase it that way. TvT maybe yes and SvS probably yes. But TvsS never ever. Because if you can't tell which one of the players are mafia then you can't say "one of them is" since you have debunked your argument already. If you don't understand this then whatever, but that's not how this game works. For once this is not for only noobking but both of you because you are arguing about stupid shit.

I called Exo mafia and Kelsier town, i called it TvS so suck it, right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:10 GMT
#2304
EBWOP: ou cannot tell if an argument is TvS or TvT unless the scum person fucks up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:11 GMT
#2305
"Same alignment" is also bullshit, always, based on two people arguing.
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n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 00:21 GMT
#2306
On March 24 2018 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Same alignment" is also bullshit, always, based on two people arguing.

Well, looks like both of the people you're addressing disagree with you.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:22 GMT
#2307
Regarding this i actually have one thing to say.

darthfoley, since i have completely forgotten what i think your alignment is do you remember who was the guy who said one or both of us have to be mafia? Basically he called the argument between us "forced" but couldn't tell if we are both mafia (which is always the case if an argument is forced). But then he added the "if not both at least one" which is completely bs since if a townie and mafia are arguing and you cannot tell which one of those is mafia then it is equally likely the argument is TvS than that it is TvT.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:23 GMT
#2308
On March 24 2018 09:21 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Same alignment" is also bullshit, always, based on two people arguing.

Well, looks like both of the people you're addressing disagree with you.

If you can't tell if an argument is TvT or SvS then you shouldn't even try because in fact you can't tell anything about that argument.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:25 GMT
#2309
On March 24 2018 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Regarding this i actually have one thing to say.

darthfoley, since i have completely forgotten what i think your alignment is do you remember who was the guy who said one or both of us have to be mafia? Basically he called the argument between us "forced" but couldn't tell if we are both mafia (which is always the case if an argument is forced). But then he added the "if not both at least one" which is completely bs since if a townie and mafia are arguing and you cannot tell which one of those is mafia then it is equally likely the argument is TvS than that it is TvT.

I mean like, if youre town then it's a nice way to add fuel into a shitfest and if people buy it gg you bought two days for mafia.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 00:28 GMT
#2310
On March 24 2018 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No you dont. I said tomorrow.


This is the funniest thing I have read in this game all day. Almost sad, but still really funny.

I realize I am doing that thing where I am just posting my thoughts and reactions to whatever strikes my fancy and probably not doing anything actually productive.

I’m almost caught up though and will be home soon. So whatever that means.
I can take that responsibility.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 24 2018 00:32 GMT
#2311
Not here rayn

Doing house chores

Im happy where my vote is
N00b is still more content to keep poking and throwing wifom bombs then produce content even though its day2 which was meant to open the flood gates


N00b reminds me a lot of my scum mentality
Happy to lynch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:33 GMT
#2312
On March 24 2018 09:28 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No you dont. I said tomorrow.


This is the funniest thing I have read in this game all day. Almost sad, but still really funny.

I realize I am doing that thing where I am just posting my thoughts and reactions to whatever strikes my fancy and probably not doing anything actually productive.

I’m almost caught up though and will be home soon. So whatever that means.

Can you tell me who you actually think is mafia?
The problem i have with you is that usually when i play and you're town i ahve huge problems with you -- i mean in a way that you post some reads and i disagree with them all and then i think you are mafia and either i mislynch you or one of us dies.

This game the only things i remember from you are things where you ask me something that can be easily explained in my filter straight out. It feels like you only read half of the posts and completely disregard others, like you pick a post that looks "bad" and not even call the dude (me) scum for it, just "question" them. That's why i think you look bad, almost the worst in the game in fact.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 00:44 GMT
#2313
On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this

But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake

More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion?
More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion?


Yay a non WoT to quote.

Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy.

You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game.

And if you try to give me some shit kus I didn’t repaond to something you asked me you will have to ask it again. I only skim some of your posts.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:47 GMT
#2314
On March 24 2018 09:44 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this

But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake

More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion?
More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion?


Yay a non WoT to quote.

Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy.

You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game.

And if you try to give me some shit kus I didn’t repaond to something you asked me you will have to ask it again. I only skim some of your posts.

What do you think of the above post by noobking?
Why do you quote a post you actually say nothing about?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 00:47 GMT
#2315
I guess i have to actually start proving people are doing shitty things as noone can see them.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 24 2018 00:57 GMT
#2316
On March 24 2018 09:44 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this

But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake

More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion?
More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion?


Yay a non WoT to quote.

Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy.

You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game.

And if you try to give me some shit kus I didn’t repaond to something you asked me you will have to ask it again. I only skim some of your posts.

Ezcwllent question.

I think moosy already said some words on this as well???
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 01:00 GMT
#2317
On March 24 2018 07:55 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote:
Not interested in the dick measuring who voted who and who was bad in a previous game argument @.@ it has absolutely no relevance to this game

It has relevance to this game in that rayn displayed a willingness to continue an argument in which he knows he is in the wrong. My fake-out non-vote of him was a big topic of discussion in that game, I *know* he remembers it. I *know* that HE knows that I did not vote for him in that game, and that the only two players I voted for in that game were BOTH scum. Yet he continued to extend the argument about it, time and time again. For what? To make the game thread longer and harder to read? To make his filter longer and harder to read? To try and take my focus off of the game at hand? What other reason would he have for willfully extending an argument where he knows what I've said is fact?


You are actually doing exactly the same as rayn by continuing to hammer on this point, which Rsoul is completely correct that it has no relevance to this game.

So you are scumreading rayn because of this?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 01:03 GMT
#2318
On March 24 2018 08:03 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:35 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track

What would lead you to this assumption?

Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first

And if your inclination is to "assume that both were targeted because their reads were on track" then wouldn't you have to expect the mafia to have thought of this, when selecting their targets? In chess terms, this would represent thinking just ONE move ahead, yet you've not even done that?

Holyflare's top scum read had been mocsta, and Vivax's targets were Kelsier and Exo (whom multiple players had said were likely of the same alignment, regardless of which alignment that turned out to be). If the mafia wants people to think that HF and Vivax were targeted because their reads were on track, then it could be in an effort to achieve a mislynch on any of mocsta/Exo/Kelsier. Problem being that (if mocsta is truly a town Vigilante) they didn't foresee that he would cement his earlier Vigilante claim, and shoot Exo. Making an Exo mislynch impossible, a mocsta mislynch unlikely, and (if people still think Exo and Kelsier were likely the same alignment) a mislynch on Kelsier unlikely as well.

If you want to operate under the assumption that HF and Vivax were killed because their reads were on track, are you suggesting that mocsta should be the lynch? Are you suggesting that Kelsier should be the lynch? Are you suggesting anyone should be the lynch?


I don’t understand the point of this post. It just seems like you are putting words in k’s mouth.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 01:03 GMT
#2319
wow i didn't know firefly had a voting thread. Is noobking voting for me because it seems like he is surely calling me mafia?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 01:04 GMT
#2320
On March 24 2018 08:15 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 01:03 Tictock wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:36 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:11 Tictock wrote:
Just checking flips before I finish reading (note I still have not read pgs 40-70 or w/e)

Guess I can let that HF stuff go.

Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?

Assuming for a moment that that was all mafia KP then I think 5 mafia is a safe bet (6 just seems like too much for 20 players).

Noting for myself to look into who Vivax was scum reading.

This feels astoundingly contrived. Why would someone post about the flips while admitting they aren't caught up enough on the thread to know anything about what they mean?

Kus I knew what time it was, and it saved me from fruitlessly responding to several of HF’s posts.

There wouldn't be any risk of fruitlessly responding to a dead HF, if you just didn't post until you'd read. And being saved from fruitlessly responding to a dead HF didn't save you from fruitlessly making posts about the flips while having no context.

eg "Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?" If you just read before you posted, you would have seen that mocsta had said he was vig-killing Exo.

So, why would a TOWN player feel any need to post reactions to the flips, if he hadn't read the rest of the thread yet, and had no context to work with? I see absolutely no reason for a town player to do this. However, it is comparatively easier for me to pick out the scum motivation for trying to sound like you've not read the thread when you actually have.


Lmao

You think I’m scum pretending that I haven’t read the game?

I can take that responsibility.
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