Did I kill another mafia yet?
Anyway. I am VT.

Not claiming is the worst idea ever.

We have 2 ml and 2 misshots garanteed like that in a pool of 5.

If the mafia wins that I would be very impressed lol.

Do the math and claim pls.

Koshi

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March 09 2018 17:09 GMT

#910

I'll type this out so it is easier for mafia to decide to fakeclaim. At least one should or just forfeit now.

8 vs 2 with 3 medics
So current situation is:
3M + 5 versus 2

Now let's do worst case scenario:
After 1 ml:
3M + 4 versus 2
After nk and our medics stacking (really important all medics stack on 1)
2M + 3 versus 2
After second ml:
2M + 2 versus 2
After nk and our medics stacking (really important all medics stack on 1)
1M + 1 versus 2 and we lose.

That would mean that we lynched 2 townies and vigged 2 townies out of a pool of 5 townies that werent medic.
That would be impressive.

So one mafia needs to fakeclaim medic and one mafia needs to claim VT

gl hf

PS: I haven't read the rules with how the medic thing works since I read it when this thread got started 2 weeks ago or something.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 13:23 GMT

#1031

So 4 medic claims. Good stuff.
This means we have 6 VTs versus 4 medics atm.
We know there is 1 mafia within the VTs.

Now we have 2 lynches and 2 medic shots during the night to get the 1 mafia within the VTs.
If we figure him out today we auto win killing medics.
If we figure him out during night we auto win killing medics.
If we figure him out next day we end up with 4 real vts and 3 medics which contain a mafia. = autowin cuz medics kill each other during night.
If we figure him out the second night we go into a 2 VT + 1 medic vs a fakeclaiming medic mafia. It's a 50/50 because we have to lynch.

But seriously. If we lose that we missed 3 lynches and 2 vig shots. Then you just deserve to lose.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 13:30 GMT

#1034

1. Alakaslam
3. darthfoley
5. Holyflare
6. rsoultin
7. Koshi
8. KelsierSC

Kill 4.

Do not do the shit rsoultin and HF suggest.
Do not kill medics.

Within these 6 names you have 4 chances to hit the 1 mafia. only when it is the 4th try that you hit mafia you need to lynch the last mafia in a 50/50 between medics. Mafia has no option to kill VTs. Well... They could but then they chance the 1/3 chance on the last medic shot into a 1/2 shot and then last day is a 3 medics + 1 VT "mylo". So that doesn't change shit.

Just play the game like I suggest. Kill 4 within 6. If you hit the 1 mafia you autowin unless it was the last shot 2 nights from now. If you can't hit the mafia withing these 6 names you just deserve to lose.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 13:46 GMT

#1041

On March 10 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote:

1. Alakaslam
5. Holyflare
6. rsoultin
7. Koshi
8. KelsierSC
10. MoosyDoosy

Kill 4.

My names were wrong.

I think mafia played well and put noobking under the medics. I think DF should have died if he wasn't a real medic. (from what I read after I replaced). Vivax and fefe look medics.

Problem is we can't kill him. Because the game stays the same which is find the 1 mafia in 6 names. Well... The only difference is that if we are wrong we lose our shooting power 1 night earlier. And if we are right we do not lose after the second vigshot during night. We always have our lylo with 3 VTs and 1 medic.

But who cares really. Just don't kill medics. If we are wrong and kill a town medic we are idiots. We can't take the risk.

Anyway. I don't have reads.
I think Slam is town and figured out noobking. Pretty sure he wont buss like that.
I think I agree with rsoultin that HF proposed something sub-optimal and I don't know what that makes HF.
I know I can kill all 3 out of HF, MD and Kelsier so who really cares?

Koshi

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March 10 2018 13:56 GMT

#1043

I opened MD his filter and he is superobvious town trying to solve the game and enjoying himself. I do not see him operate within a team the way he is posting.

##vote Kelsier

Kelsier needs to go. Looks like super duper awkward mafia but life isn't that easy.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 20:47 GMT

#1130

gl ksc.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 21:21 GMT

#1150

If you vote within the medics you lose a ml. It's just stupid because the game stays "find the 1 mafia within the 6 VTs".
You have 4 shots to hit mafia within 6 names.
If you succeed within your first 3 shots you AUTOWIN.

I might not do much this game. But I present you the easiest way to win in the history of mafia with 5 misslynches before you lose, with the last 4 in a pool of 6. And 4 of you decide to take another route.

Amazing.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 21:23 GMT

#1155

On March 11 2018 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
I would much rather have fun and lynch mafia then trying to play optimally and rely on some shit game mechanics to win. I just wanted to play a normal game tbh but he we are. So, I am just going to play mafia like I normally am and lynch people that look like mafia regardless of whether they are a claimed medic or not.

We have three medic claims and all of them were instant. Only noobking's was delayed and didn't say a single thing. At no point has he even tried to decipher which of the other three medics are mafia when that should be the medic's main priority. I had a town read on vivax and a semi town semi blue read on ff the whole time. Df could have been mafia but I don't think he ever shoots AMG there at all over rsoul/vivax/hf.

Furthermore, he is actually angry at this point int time for no discernible reason that I can think of. To top it off he had that massive df post early on d1 where it looked like it was incredibly TMI to call him town. Add to that the fact that he wanted to lynch kelsier d1 instead of people that gave good information then I have to think he's actually mafia.

Everything you say here is true. But why play suboptimal? We have lynched so many people which we believed to be mafia only to see them flip town.

I also give it 85% or more that noobking is mafia. But why lynch him? There is no point.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 23:41 GMT

#1195

At least rsoultin and noob undsrstand the correct play. Vigs please all stack on 1. 5 left. 3 more chances.

Koshi

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March 10 2018 23:42 GMT

#1197

If you kill a town medic we lose next vigshot. Dont be silly. Kill within the VTs.

Koshi

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March 11 2018 01:20 GMT

#1238

I applaud the mafia VT guy playing this well.

Tinfoil team is HF+ Vivax.

Koshi

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March 11 2018 01:23 GMT

#1240

Noobking is playing pretty ok from where I joined in.
Vivax isn't.

DF looks town.
fefe same.

Slam looks mad enough to be town.
Moosy looks town.
rsoultin makes way too much sense to be mafia. She is solving the game like I would.
HF is pushing to kill medics but not Vivax who fell of the earth.

Tinfoil HF + Vivax explained.

Koshi

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March 11 2018 13:09 GMT

#1372

On March 11 2018 15:33 n00bKing wrote:

Show nested quote +

Cuz?

The amount of posts he made and the flow between them. He looks unhindered speaking his mind and jumping from suspect to suspect.

I am not reading indepth like you did with your 2 cases but on the surface he looked fine.

Koshi

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March 11 2018 13:20 GMT

#1373

On March 11 2018 18:56 rsoultin wrote:
Hey koshi, 1) your read on noob changed. Can you explain that?

2) Along with your moosy townread if it's more than just tone and spidey senses, because I'm conflicted about him.

3) Also not sure what you meant by DF should have died if he wasn't real medic? Can you lay that out for me?

1) I forgot why I initially scumread him. I don't scumread him anymore because he put effort in. Especially right before the lynch he made so many posts it was impossible he was mafia with Kelsier because the game would end. But then I realized the guy might just be town and is mafia ml of choice within the docs. It makes a lot of sense if Noobking is town mafia is trying to kill him because we can't shoot next night anymore. There were 4 people contemplating to change from safe bet Kelsier to Noobking before Kelsier even posted.

Also Noobking is townreading me. Might be TMI. Might be brilliant.

2) Just answered. I don't know the guy but making so many free flowing posts look difficult as mafia.

3) If mafia didn't know HF wasn't medic. This means that while people townread HF (I assume) nobody else voted for DF. If I was mafia and HF was town I would always use my mafia medic on DF. Always. Except when DF is mafia ofcourse. Then I would roleblock HF.
The fact DF didn't die also points towards him being an actual medic. Because that is 1 medic that would for sure wouldn't follow HF and medic DF. So all in all it makes sense the guy is medic.

I haven't read a single post from before I joined the game except for in the few filters I opened. So I don't know that what I think is correct.