EPT[M][N] Medic Mafia - Page 69
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Holyflare
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 11 2018 21:30 Holyflare wrote: It seems you're well into arguing semantics with me and about 0 reasons why I'm actually mafia. Whether or not the order of claims in a mass claim is alignment indicative is not a discussion of semantics. But don't worry, you can find a whole bunch of reasons why you're actually mafia on page 63. Big post, ya can't miss it. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 11 2018 21:34 Holyflare wrote: Vivax's posts allude to him being medic because he was reluctant to have the mass claim which you could argue a mafia would be but to me it looks like a medic that didn't want to reveal he was a medic. I do in fact agree that it means literally nothing because both have reason to be reluctant. | ||
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Holyflare
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 11 2018 21:42 Holyflare wrote: BOTH have reasons to be reluctant but only one of those says it in the thread knowing they are medic. The other one would have had to have chosen that they are claiming medic out of their team beforehand, prepared it in thread, made a whole post about better night actions and then claimed it. It feels far more natural TO ME. This you may be right about. And he may just seem scummy because he decided not to play as town  rather than because he fell off as he normally does when he's scum.I still don't understand why that doesn't bother you any. You know that about him as much as I do. | ||
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Holyflare
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
I'm just going to make a mental note to follow that up later if I'm here. Because when he replaced in for me you certainly had a different opinion. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Lex is up, and I don't see myself getting any closer to certainty today, so toodles. | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
I still think it's koshi though, he's said absolutely nothing of worth and didn't town read me. He also completely 180d his VIvax read. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
The amount of posts he made and the flow between them. He looks unhindered speaking his mind and jumping from suspect to suspect. I am not reading indepth like you did with your 2 cases but on the surface he looked fine. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 11 2018 18:56 rsoultin wrote: Hey koshi, 1) your read on noob changed. Can you explain that? 2) Along with your moosy townread if it's more than just tone and spidey senses, because I'm conflicted about him. 3) Also not sure what you meant by DF should have died if he wasn't real medic? Can you lay that out for me? 1) I forgot why I initially scumread him. I don't scumread him anymore because he put effort in. Especially right before the lynch he made so many posts it was impossible he was mafia with Kelsier because the game would end. But then I realized the guy might just be town and is mafia ml of choice within the docs. It makes a lot of sense if Noobking is town mafia is trying to kill him because we can't shoot next night anymore. There were 4 people contemplating to change from safe bet Kelsier to Noobking before Kelsier even posted. Also Noobking is townreading me. Might be TMI. Might be brilliant. 2) Just answered. I don't know the guy but making so many free flowing posts look difficult as mafia. 3) If mafia didn't know HF wasn't medic. This means that while people townread HF (I assume) nobody else voted for DF. If I was mafia and HF was town I would always use my mafia medic on DF. Always. Except when DF is mafia ofcourse. Then I would roleblock HF. The fact DF didn't die also points towards him being an actual medic. Because that is 1 medic that would for sure wouldn't follow HF and medic DF. So all in all it makes sense the guy is medic. I haven't read a single post from before I joined the game except for in the few filters I opened. So I don't know that what I think is correct. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 11 2018 19:42 Vivax wrote: Kelsiers strategy of trying to skate on big puppy eyes didn't quite work. Good, good. ##Vote: Koshi Tinfoil intensifies + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 11 2018 19:48 rsoultin wrote: How are you reading vivax town, that's what I'd like to know? And why should I get rid of koshi's tinfoil team? (You've answered your own question. He does have reads. You may not like what his reads are, or how little they're explained, but that doesn't equate to no reads.) I would like to point out to all town people that rsoultin is town. This might be very obvious to some. But please remember it forever. This means if you follow my plan. You have a 50/50 in your 4th try to shoot a mafia. 5 names are left. We have 3 shots. rsoultin is lock town. = 4 names left. We have 3 shots. If you wonder why. It is because she is dominating the disussion and not following the thread. She wants answers and is actively solving the game. No way this is mafia rsoultin. No way. You can see how she doesn't trust HF from how she posts and that she wants HF to help her solve the game and see what she sees. But alas. HF is blind. Or pretending to be. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 11 2018 22:20 Koshi wrote: 1) I forgot why I initially scumread him. I don't scumread him anymore because he put effort in. Especially right before the lynch he made so many posts it was impossible he was mafia with Kelsier because the game would end. But then I realized the guy might just be town and is mafia ml of choice within the docs. It makes a lot of sense if Noobking is town mafia is trying to kill him because we can't shoot next night anymore. There were 4 people contemplating to change from safe bet Kelsier to Noobking before Kelsier even posted. Also Noobking is townreading me. Might be TMI. Might be brilliant. 2) Just answered. I don't know the guy but making so many free flowing posts look difficult as mafia. 3) If mafia didn't know HF wasn't medic. This means that while people townread HF (I assume) nobody else voted for DF. If I was mafia and HF was town I would always use my mafia medic on DF. Always. Except when DF is mafia ofcourse. Then I would roleblock HF. The fact DF didn't die also points towards him being an actual medic. Because that is 1 medic that would for sure wouldn't follow HF and medic DF. So all in all it makes sense the guy is medic. I haven't read a single post from before I joined the game except for in the few filters I opened. So I don't know that what I think is correct. and this is why he's mafia lol he literally just did every scenario where I was town despite "Tinfoiling" scum team as me and vivax. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
so he's literally basing it on me being town and them believing me to be medic which is almost definitely what happened in the mafia QT | ||
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Holyflare
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
There is nothing wrong with just controlling 1 kill each day and night phase. I guess if Vivax afk shoots me I prefer you 3 find somebody else. If 1 of you 3 also thinks I should die it is better that the 2 other don't kill a second guy and just kill me. It's ok. Just talk about it in the thread. hmm If Vivax is town I am dead anyway I guess. blah. I guess it isn't horrible if the medics kill 2 VTs today. It shouldn't do that much. Do the math next night. More information is better for town. I also think that if 2 VTs die tonight. And 1 of them is the fakeclaiming mafia. That town autowins unless mafia medicced mafia :DD | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 11 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote: df IS town medic because they believed I was medic????????? so he's literally basing it on me being town and them believing me to be medic which is almost definitely what happened in the mafia QT I'll explain this again to the not braindead people that might think HF has a point. My point is that IF HF is town. Mafia will believe that DF will get a medic on his ass. So they will put their medic on DF. Which means it is really odd DF didn't die because that means none of the 3 actual town medics believed HF while he was townread and joined HF. So the fact DF didn't die makes it very likely he is either mafia. Or he is actually a town medic. It's math. Now I think I had this thought already BEFORE the mass claims. So the fact DF claimed medic later makes my scenario lean towards the DF is town medic side. I hope everybody understand. It doesn't make DF lock town medic. But it makes sense. I don't know what people thought during the early night etc. But if HF is town. and if DF is town. And there are 3 mafia in the thread who see HF call a shot on DF. Then I do not believe that those 3 mafia fail to get 1 real town medic on DF. Or at least push the idea. I think it actually points towards HF being mafia knowing mafia medic is on DF and trying to gather support. But it is still possible DF is mafia and mafia didn't want it to happen. Actually DF you should think about this line of thought more. You know whether you are town :D. it makes sense not? If DF was a simple VT I don't think he surives the night normally. With 4 medics and a fakeclaiming medic calling a shot on him. | ||
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