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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 15:50 GMT
#1302
Looking back i dont think damdred would have called both rsoultin and ritoky mafia at the start of the game in case he was mafia. Slippery slope that would be...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 16:20 GMT
#1312
For you Koshi i will pretend i dont think rsoultin is mafia on D2 and pretend i am looking for other mafia aside Mocsta.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 16:48 GMT
#1315
On February 09 2018 01:38 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off


Damdred is mafia for this whole post. You don't have the mderg wagon being full of pure people but simultaneously think both wagons were mafia. My vote absolutely looks like credit grabbing in that world. I had a case on rsoul and voted the leading wagon?

Nah

Don't buy it at all. Damdred is my lynch.
This is a very good point.

+1
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 20:16 GMT
#1334
I am home in 30mibs. I will listen damdrrd.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:03 GMT
#1348
On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote:
Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order

Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel

These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.

Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn

Idk maybe?
prp

scum
DF

Rsoultin


Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.

First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.

It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.

DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.

I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.

Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts

Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game.

Damdred can you tell me why Mocsta is town? I will ignore your "pure wagon" comment for now because that cannot be a reason for Mocsta being town (that he voted for mafia since you think both wagons were mafia).

Also why darthfoley is mafia? Do you think darthfoley's play with rsoultin was to get either mderg or rsoultin lynched and then df starts yelling how the other one is mafia too? If darthfoley is mafia, why can't i be mafia -- basically aside from our reads on each other me and darthfoley have had our top scum on the same place all D1. Which is also why i can't see ANYONE (especially people who voted for rsoultin) legitmately calling one of us near top scum and other one town. It just doesn't make any sense because our thoughts have aligned pretty much, especially after D1 end.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:14 GMT
#1356
I still have absolutely no idea how someone can townread disformation. There is nothing in his filter than a random pick on Conversation being scum (which is a really really opportunistic read) and then nothing that someone else hasn't said already. And asslicking Koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:15 GMT
#1357
On February 09 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 06:06 prplhz wrote:
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes.


Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what?

I kind of might disagree.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:19 GMT
#1359
lololol i just realized something that is really stupid but hilarious.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:24 GMT
#1362
For those eyes only who played in the last game:
If conversion is mafia teh scum qt looks liek this:
+ Show Spoiler +

Conversion: what do i do plz halp, i just wanna quit
Scum #2 (who also played in the last game): ask to get vigged
Conversion: no but what if they vig me?
Scum #2: Nah, we had a framer so there is a cop and Skynx wouldn't put 2 inv roles into the game so there is no vig

Conversion to thread:
VIG ME PLZ I WANNA DIE!!!
:D :D :D

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:37 GMT
#1363
On February 09 2018 06:22 Damdred wrote:
@Rayn, Ok here is how it is in my mind.

Mocsta had reasoning to swap off of Mderg and hop back onto Tina. He spent a lot of hia filter preasuring her, moving against her. If mderg and mocsta were zcum together it would be easy at that point in ths thread to move and strengthen the rsoultin lynch if she is towm and he is scum. It makes no sense for him to lynch mderg espe ialy given how he played last game.

If both are mafia, it doesnt clear him at all though. And ill readily admit that, eapecially if rsoultin is a better role in that regard. (i mean his vote)

Besides that I think mocsta reevaluating on me when it was much easier to go with thread sentiment during the night was townie and different from theblast scum game he played. In the same vein when night started he was super antagonksti. towards me and set i was scum, but softened and tried to find things.

I think his vote looks good to me, the way he approa hes the game is different. tonally he is also didderent as he seems much more confrontational in review.

I think i can be biased but i honestly believe Mocsta -- based on what he wrote on rsoultin earlier in the game should have been voting for her instead of mderg. I agree i can be wrong, but that's the feeling i got fro mhis posts. Like the last game i followed D1 loosely and i was 100% certain Mocsta had voted for DF day i and during the start of D2 i cleared him in my mind in obs qt just to look at the votecount and i was like "wtf, why wasn't this guys vote on df?". I kind of see the same thing here. Another thing is that he made a slip or a "slip" that he has done before. He later on tried to pain it as a joke. What is the point of joking like that? I don't think he is telling the truth about him joking, i think he genuinely slipped like he has done before and made up a reason for it.

As for df I dont know exactly what the plan was. tina nor mderg really never seemed to have a lot of thread pull necessarily and it seemed no ome really got up to a momentum to go against them in the vote department.

I thought i did explaim about df, he fought woth hf and i thought the fight disnt feel like t v t. hf came out looking better. df has been misconstruing different things to make people look bad, me and my vote for reasons that arent teue, hf in the fight.

One of the things ive tried to read df as, as s um is hes a bit more hostile as scum than town I think. So it sort of fits here to.

And I just think you are town. You are pushing on little things that you think are inconsistant like the rs sk thing. and this conversation we are having now instead of teying to bury me.

I mean I could just be reading the game like im an idiot i guess? But I kinda think im just right.

I think df cannot be mafia if rsoultin is. I think there is your problem rn. If df and rsoultin are the final 2 mafia then mafia D1 play was "let's all call each other scum not not even really try to do anything" and that is just fucking reatrded. I am not quite sure why you think this is possible. I understand your reasoning, i might even agree with it but never with rsoultin being scum with him.

Like the reason i read df scum D1 was because he used very weird wording. He thought i am mafia because, as he said "He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong". Now if you are town, what is this.... Would you BELIEVE i made wrong points? No, you know if i did or not. Even worse, if you think i am mafia FOR IT, i am obviously bullshitting, so there is nothing to BELIEVE, i am bullshitting, you point out where, and that's it. Case closed. But instead he "believe i might have made wrong points". What is this even?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:44 GMT
#1366
Can you answer to holyflare's last post?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:45 GMT
#1367
I mean if you're town i know you don't like it (people being that aggressive towards you) but honestly he has a point there.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:47 GMT
#1369
Okay that makes more sense. I am not sure if i have missed your read on disformation but can you post it or if you have just say you have and i go read it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:56 GMT
#1373
On February 09 2018 06:51 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes more sense. I am not sure if i have missed your read on disformation but can you post it or if you have just say you have and i go read it.


I have posted it but ill reaay it anyway so you dont have to dig.

I liked how disformation came into the thread ready to work and give reads. He wasnt demotivated which he can be as scum and has stayed pretty muh on the same level.

He also had a good tone (imo), played around with me qhen I was joking. (new stuff)

I don't understand how he picks the people to read. Can you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:09 GMT
#1384
On February 09 2018 07:00 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 06:51 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes more sense. I am not sure if i have missed your read on disformation but can you post it or if you have just say you have and i go read it.


I have posted it but ill reaay it anyway so you dont have to dig.

I liked how disformation came into the thread ready to work and give reads. He wasnt demotivated which he can be as scum and has stayed pretty muh on the same level.

He also had a good tone (imo), played around with me qhen I was joking. (new stuff)

I don't understand how he picks the people to read. Can you?


That i dont know exactly just seems whoever he wants, im sort of still waiting on him not flopping around on me.

First posts in his filter are fine, jsut by following the game i understand those. The problem for me is he says this:
if i remember correctly: the rs wagon was for a long time the only serious one around, so i want to look at ppl who hoped onto that easily/meekily so that they look like they were doing/pushing someone.

After this he starts stuff about Conversion. It's still fine, because it is perfectly logical he goes to Conversion (as he is one dude who voted for rsoultin over mderg). But then, after a couple of posts he says this:
i was also reading trfels filter and am not sure why your argument made him switch to rsoultin.
which made me read your filter.

So reading Trfels filter made him read Conversions filter? Not the votecount or what he said before.
And then after a couple of posts:
yeah that actually makes a lot of sense.
but I have it on good authority that rels slot is shockingly town... so wtf was scum doing?
lemme look at the votes a sec

He didn't even look at the votes......

I am not sure how the underlined part makes sense with what he actually did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:10 GMT
#1385
On February 09 2018 07:04 ritoky wrote:
i have read the truffle filter and determined that i don't see a reason why any1 would blue hunt him.

medic dodge on an obvious townie is your answer.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:23 GMT
#1387
I don't think i would have ever thought Trfel is blue if i was mafia lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:24 GMT
#1388
Maybe veteran but no other blue.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:31 GMT
#1389
So everyone left?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 22:37 GMT
#1393
On February 09 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote:
Damdred something something here
This is a thread summary of arguments everyone else has put up.

Who else is reading rsoultin and darthfoley mafia other than damdred?
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