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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 22:14 GMT
#1359
On December 16 2017 00:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like whatever, you disagree. Fine, but don't make fucking fun of me because you disagree with me.

Me?

If I came across as insulting I hope you will accept my apology. It really wasn't my intention I respect you as a player and as a human being.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 22:22 GMT
#1360
Now can anybody tell me why the SK claimed cop for no reason?

The problem with this claim is that it was so fake that no one believed in it except some new players so it was really just for the purpose of kind of doing whatever, having fun, and possibly drawing a night kill from some panicking scum. This is just not very scum. Now he's claiming vig which fits alright. Any setup speculation that conclusively proves that we have an SK is just wildly speculative and probably wrong.

I gotta say I don't particularly get this thing with the single/multi-shot. What exactly was that about?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 22:26 GMT
#1361
On December 16 2017 06:36 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 06:02 Palmar wrote:
On December 16 2017 00:33 Holyflare wrote:
You weren't sure until now if you were multi shot vig so you claimed cop at night to bait out getting shot so you were clear instead of being the lynch?

*clap*

I admit I may have had better ideas.

But that does not change the truth value of my plea for innocence!
Is there any truth to your pleas? They haven´t helped town any, just muddled up D2 and made sure that you are the lynch. It doesn´t even make sense from a town perspective, you claimed cop during the night, putting a huge target on yourself. That wouldn´t have been a problem if you were a 1-shot vig with the Roleblocker dead, except at the time you say you thought you had unlimited shots. If you thought you could just keep shooting then why paint a huge target on yourself by claiming DT? Also, you are usually so confident with your ability to find scum, so you would throw away that and your blue ability by claiming. Did you expect the WIFOM and confusion of claiming to confuse scum enough to shoot someone else? It makes more sense that you are scum and claimed blue because you wanted town-cred and were not afraid of getting shot during the night. Then after Grack flipped you became desperate or lost interest in the game and just went crazy with claiming several different roles.

Really

How does it make more sense that Palmar is mafia? Then where on earth did the Grackaroni shot come from?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 22:40 GMT
#1365
On December 16 2017 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Palmar is 9 times out of 10 mafia. The SK is unknown.

Okay, so he's mafia claiming the SK kill to pose as a vig?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 22:45 GMT
#1368
Does SK win with town if all mafia are dead? And win solo if he is among the last 2 left? Or does town have to kill him before town can win?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 22:45 GMT
#1369
On December 16 2017 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
Killing palmar is also a free cop check on me so gg

How is that?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 22:58 GMT
#1373
On December 16 2017 07:47 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 07:26 prplhz wrote:
On December 16 2017 06:36 Forumite wrote:
On December 16 2017 06:02 Palmar wrote:
On December 16 2017 00:33 Holyflare wrote:
You weren't sure until now if you were multi shot vig so you claimed cop at night to bait out getting shot so you were clear instead of being the lynch?

*clap*

I admit I may have had better ideas.

But that does not change the truth value of my plea for innocence!
Is there any truth to your pleas? They haven´t helped town any, just muddled up D2 and made sure that you are the lynch. It doesn´t even make sense from a town perspective, you claimed cop during the night, putting a huge target on yourself. That wouldn´t have been a problem if you were a 1-shot vig with the Roleblocker dead, except at the time you say you thought you had unlimited shots. If you thought you could just keep shooting then why paint a huge target on yourself by claiming DT? Also, you are usually so confident with your ability to find scum, so you would throw away that and your blue ability by claiming. Did you expect the WIFOM and confusion of claiming to confuse scum enough to shoot someone else? It makes more sense that you are scum and claimed blue because you wanted town-cred and were not afraid of getting shot during the night. Then after Grack flipped you became desperate or lost interest in the game and just went crazy with claiming several different roles.

Really

How does it make more sense that Palmar is mafia? Then where on earth did the Grackaroni shot come from?
Grack could have been killed by a lurking townie that haven´t gone online yet, or a townie with multiple shots who doesn´t feel like claiming. Why claim to save scummy Palmar when town is on its way to lynch him allready? That just draws attention to a blue. Not likely but possible. Or maybe Palmar shot his scumbuddy after Grack got tired of the game. Scum Palmar makes more sense with the play during D1, Palmar chainsaw defending Oats without even reading Oats filter, and later claiming he was on the Oats lynch. It´s a huge mess, Palmar really isn´t helping and I´m not going to leave him be.

If that´s not enough, then lynch him for lying, Palmar has lied to town repeatedly with his weird claims, and there is no clear reason why a townie would do this. If he really is a Vigi, then claim that during the night, or keep quiet and keep the blue role safe. Or what, Palmar is a player who likes to mess up for his own team, so we should ignore everything he does and hope he´s green?

Or Palmar got a bad start of the game and lost interest, deciding that shooting his scumbuddy might be fun. His play today looks like he´s throwing the game.


This post feels horrible.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:01 GMT
#1374
First it's like "Well, he could be scum if all of these unlikely things are true (someone holding on to a CC)" and then "lynch him for doing something a ton of people have done (fakeclaiming)" and then it's literally speculating that Palmar shot his scumbuddy which I don't even know how he'd do.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:01 GMT
#1375
Koshi talk to me about Forumite.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:20 GMT
#1378
The simplest explanation about all of this Palmar stuff is that he's the vig but decided to fuck around for a while (which is fairly common for Palmar).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:22 GMT
#1379
Hey LightningStrike, why is Palmar scum? And please don't say because he lied about a claim.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:24 GMT
#1383
On December 16 2017 08:22 Arya321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 08:20 prplhz wrote:
The simplest explanation about all of this Palmar stuff is that he's the vig but decided to fuck around for a while (which is fairly common for Palmar).

True but I don't think he would even fuck around at that point expcally because I remember in Metal Mini he actually did try to find mafia a little bit or at least sheeped a good enough case after 2 mafia were killed by Day 2 onto the SK in that game although that was in 2013 into 2014 if I remember correctly..

"You're ostensibly right but I remember a game four years ago where he did something vaguely different"
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:25 GMT
#1384
Come one LightningStrike, how many times have you read Palmar and thought "What on earth is this man even DOING?" only for him to be town? 9 out of 10 times?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:32 GMT
#1385
What's up people?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:47 GMT
#1388
On December 16 2017 08:37 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 08:25 prplhz wrote:
Come one LightningStrike, how many times have you read Palmar and thought "What on earth is this man even DOING?" only for him to be town? 9 out of 10 times?

So if a player is impossible to read we leave him be? Even when he´s been caught defending scum, messing up discussion and derailing the whole D2? I don´t see Vigi-Palmar, I see a desperate scum that is trying anything that might work. I can´t explain the Grack shot, but that doesn´t make Palmar a confirmed Vigi.

Townies defend scum, it happens all the time. If D2 is messed up, which I don't know that it is, town is responsible for that as well. Lynching players for doing weird shit has literally never worked and if you wanna lynch someone for being unreadable, how about you start with Chezinu?

It kind of does make him confirmed vig. This lynching Palmar to hypothetically save a 1-shot vig makes no sense, vigs are generally shit and shoot townies and are mostly useful because they can confirm themselves through their actions, so lets have the vig claim and then we lynch Palmar and win 100%.

Unless there's an SK and Palmar is scum and hiding behind the SK kill, which is the most plausible, I'll grant Koshi that, but not very plausible at all. Palmar's case yesterday and his effort today after outing himself at the very least to a third party who wants him dead doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:48 GMT
#1389
On December 16 2017 08:40 Conversion wrote:
I’m not feeling well

I don’t understand defense of Palmar. even if town he shit up by fake claiming like 5 things for some dumb reason.

reminds me of when vivax fake claimed cop to try and get HF lynched and flipped town if he is town.

But we don't lynch townies because we are angry with how they play. That's rule 1 of mafia.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:49 GMT
#1390
Hey, if the vig is not claiming because he's multishot, lets not lynch Palmar but let them duel it the fuck out during the night, how about it Forumite?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:50 GMT
#1391
Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:52 GMT
#1392
It also hinges on Palmar knowing or betting on that there is an SK. Instead of just going back on his claim and saying that he wasn't serious (and he has a history of fakeclaiming so whatever).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 15 2017 23:52 GMT
#1393
Is anybody even here?
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