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On November 21 2017 04:38 Z-BosoN wrote: May I tempt you with HF? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26833445 We can switch to Stan if it doesn't take off. No way DF gets lynched. Are you a big gun? (Although I don’t hate that case...) | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote: Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me. Well in that case hf disagrees with you on Ruiz, but I kinda agree with you. I think rxx looks town. So you still exist in my world despite being at best a fancy prop. | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:47 Conversion wrote: dunno hf just generally seems very not-give-a-fuck and bored about mafia lately, so I don't think it's a particularly good case. didn't read into it too deeply/check HF's filter because I want stan lynched today Do you have like a concise case on Stan for me to compare to the hf case? | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:54 Damdred wrote: Fancy prop can be useful. Here is a dirty case on stan, His reads are inconsistent early game and some reads ie read on myself and rux just get dropped and never revisited. He also asks questions about myself and has no follow up and really does not seem to care. When the df wagon starts going at a decent pace he hops on without any real explanation, he then misrepresents df filter to try to overjustify his vote on df. He then dissapears obviously. This all sounds like clueless town. But I have nothing to back that up as I haven’t read a single post of his. Mafia people are generally too careful to fuck up that much | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:58 Conversion wrote: I want to believe this, but last game we had random double mafia bus that we found out was a big mistake on someone's end (was supposed to vote a townie, but ended up voting his godfather off) Yes and once there was a literal dog in a game. I'm not changing my way of thinking based on one game. | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:00 Tumblewood wrote: nah, i don't believe palmar comes back to the thread an hour before deadline and conversion is the guy he sheeps This is a garbage comment btw. | ||
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Hf is maybe 60% but has a larger wagon and well... lynching hf is always fun. I get to call him trash in the thread for the rest of the game even if he flips town and he can't say shit back  Of the two leading wagons I don't think I want to kill either of them, but I've been doing this for like 15 minutes so. | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:07 Z-BosoN wrote: Just curious, on a scale from "last two pages" to "whole fucking thread", how much are you reading here? last two pages pretty much. And maybe the shit that gets quoted/linked. I've read like 10% of this game maybe. | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:12 darthfoley wrote: lol I'm at the point where I would prefer to not die pretty please. Kill Stan now if you paid any kind of attention to the game you'd know that Stan is not the one who's gonna die tonight. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/pNVX1fj.png) | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:12 Z-BosoN wrote: Listen man if you are town, lets be friends at around day 3. If I dont die or get you lynched by then, I probably wont ever. This man is the real deal | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:13 ruXxar wrote: The case looks good on paper, but HFs play does not reflect how I know HF to play scum. He's very dedicated to his team. He's one of the few people that I think cares more about the game when he's scum than when he's town. His total disinterest in the running wagons also means that he's likely not scum with neither Stan nor DF, or else he would be trying harder to sway the vote one way or the other. I don't want to vote for HF. Who do you think is mafia again? | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:19 darthfoley wrote: I'd prefer not to lynch HF but if I have to meh ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/dE8BENPVMXoqc/giphy.gif) | ||
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I mean that post conversion quoted isn't great, but it doesn't really sound all that mafia, just like a dude who hasn't any got his shit together. | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:20 Tumblewood wrote: filtering hf real quick & i will give you the verdict Nobody cares scum | ||
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I don't need no more than 30 minutes in a thread to herd the sheep. | ||
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Remember, if this crashes and burns like most things, we blame 1) Holyflare, for clearly playing bad 2) Hosts for starting on a weekend And then we lynch Oats for TMI I have literally never in my career in mafia made a mistake that hasn't been forced upon me by external problems. I am flawless. | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:26 Stanislav Petrov wrote: I'm here. But I'm not unhappy with darthfoley lynch. Decent chance to flip scum and good information to analyze tomorrow. darthfoley has done scummy things and been active and still not scum hunted to literally save his life. Holyflare won't give as much information. I would swap if his case was stronger then darthfoley's but I don't feel that it is. Stop bullshitting you're safe. | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:33 Conversion wrote: well I wanted DF alive and stan lynched, so I got one of those things sorry HF No need hf played like shit | ||
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100% or TW | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Btw vig should totally shoot palmar. He should've known that HF was town. I knew, I said it | ||
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ruxxar, conversion, damdred, z-boson, stan The following are meh oats the following are scummy tw everyone else I have no opinion on yet. I'll read some more maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow. Had to kinda work hard here to create this mess. Games don't get fucked up by themselves, someone's gotta do the dirty work. | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:38 Z-BosoN wrote: You being quiet for the last 15 min then BOOP. Hi guys. TW for his shitty voting behavior. Need to think more and such True hero | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:37 Oatsmaster wrote: I mean you pretty much made the noose for holyflare. Yes Did you like it? Do you wish you could do that? Just waltz into a game like you're the greatest thing since sliced bread and get people to do your bidding? | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:41 ruXxar wrote: We lost a big ass there ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/skJin5C.png) | ||
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On November 21 2017 09:40 Conversion wrote: tbh that hf lynch was a total crapshoot and just makes wveryone (including me) who lynched scummy. I should have used my head and realized that df dying or stan dying was the best outcome since it gives us info It only really makes TW scummy for his weird strategy bullshit and hesitancy around the vote. People keep forgetting that it's townies who do retarded shit and run around like headless chicken. Who do you think is more likely to jump on my terrible wagon that mafia knows is town? Suddenly an experienced player brim filled with confidence starts yelling at everyone in the thread to lynch some dude. Who is more likely to blindly follow, mafia (who knows I'm wrong) or town (who's just looking for a lynch.... any lynch). I'm inclined to believe most of the people who followed me are town. I'm kinda upgrading Oats to town too, but I'm definitely missing at least one mafia in my town reads (as I always do). But that's mostly fine because it's higher % chance of success by hunting mafia in my scumreads. | ||
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On November 21 2017 18:00 VisceraEyes wrote: They were all confused. I just shook my head. Can you explain your massive scumreads on Koshi and TW? | ||
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On November 21 2017 18:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't have a massive scumread on anyone, the strongest read I have is on df, and it's just a normal kind of scum read. I didn't ask you whether you had the scumreads. I asked you to explain why you had them. I decided for you that you have massive scumreads on koshi and TW, I just want you to explain why. | ||
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On November 21 2017 20:36 VisceraEyes wrote: That pretty much explains the clusterfuck that Palmar was able to cobble together too, because everyone was pointing fingers at everyone else at the time. I am, after all, the grand master of blackmagicclusterfuckery and bullshit. | ||
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i am almost certain I will be lynching into TW, KelsierSC and Hapa. I am also certain that I'm not gonna pay much attention to who these guys are voting (although I might read into how). I might backtrack and read a person or two at some point, but I'm unsure if I'll have the energy. Koshi feels less mafia than earlier. | ||
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Town feels relatively organized at the moment, we have no blue actions so far so it's a rather relaxed day atm. | ||
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On November 22 2017 07:05 KelsierSC wrote: lol ok like you seemed to genuinely believe your lynch target was mafia and that made you towny to me. Some bullshit about whether or not you could have switched to hf if you were mafia literally has nothing to do with it. I can't tell if you are just being stupid or willfully ignoring my posts. On November 22 2017 07:08 KelsierSC wrote: I don't care about anything until damdred talks about why he didn't shoot I don't really like either of these posts, especially the latter one in the context of the first. Seems like he has plenty of stuff to talk about, but tries to make some ultimatum on when he wants to talk about things. It's no big deal though, I'm still meh on who to lynch. | ||
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On November 22 2017 10:23 Tumblewood wrote: the new news is that kels is town, and i liked z-boson's case on hapa, which leaves me with almost a scum pool and a town circle He explained that townread but I'm not sure whether I believe it. Also hapa could be a policy lynch for making a trap. | ||
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On November 23 2017 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmar if you don't give a shit about your vote could you at least throw it on obvious mafia Hapahauli plz and thx? Maybe Like I do love the idea of back to back lynching HF and Hapa, but maybe I should read at least 1 post of hapa's this time. | ||
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On November 23 2017 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I know this doesn't mean much to you, but the case I wrote is airtight and deserves your vote. No I'm fine with it. I'm mad at TW for being stupid, but I haven't had good success with lynching for stupidity in the past. I'm going to read Hapa's filter. In the meantime, Hapa posted about some weird trap play, and gave 2 people a failing grade and TW a D-. I'd like to get more insight in how he determined those arbitrary results. | ||
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I actually think Hapa has a good chance of flipping mafia. His latest scumreads (TW and Damdred) are both very generic and could apply to a ton of people in the thread. Additionally he hasn't really given many opinions on people he thinks are town. There's like maybe 2-3 townreads in there. @Hapa if you ever come back, what is your opinion of darthfoley. | ||
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On November 20 2017 02:27 Hapahauli wrote: If you think Boson is town, why do you give a shit? DF post string is pretty scummy. Too much indecisive shade throwing and too much trust in Chez over one super non-alignment indicative post. #Vote Darthfoley Apparently this was some bullshit play by hapa, but it quotes actually genuinely scummy posts, and actually makes the correct conclusion. Why on earth would a town darthfoley bitch about z-boson trying to make people commit to his position? There is absolutely no reason for DF to worry about this at that particular time, or post about it in general. The only reason I can come up with is that he was simply posting for the sake of posting. Bitching about someone who you think is town is just... idk??? There's more too ( I read the posts leading up to this): This comment chain here is absolutely terrible: On November 20 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote: Why are you posting shit like this when more than half the game hadn't posted yet? Super useless fluff trying to scumhunt? Probably remember, he thinks z-boson is town. His own response and the two following posts are much more worthless than z-boson's post. He's bitching about the very thing he's doing. On November 20 2017 00:06 darthfoley wrote: +1 I find this odd as well. Much less active and withiutnthe typical aggression I associate with his play over the past two games 10 minutes later: On November 20 2017 00:16 darthfoley wrote: Conversion making one good post about Oats without pushing it or making conclusions is questionable at best And then he made some shit post about Chez never getting lynched for being Chez. I really, really don't like df. | ||
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Darthfoley: (5) hapahauli, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, Chezinu, Stanislav Petrov, Koshi | ||
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Conversion/Damdred need to do more, but meh. I don't really think koshi is mafia. Someone said something like "are we really gonna let koshi slide by day 2" again. That guy is maybe mafia. | ||
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On November 22 2017 07:55 darthfoley wrote: So can we not let Koshi slide by doing nothing again today plz It was DF | ||
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On November 24 2017 04:47 ruXxar wrote: Been really busy lately sorry. Was at a concert yesterday and couldnt function when I got home. Hapa is a solid lynch. like 80% mafia. Whoever said damdred is mafia is probably mafia, seemed so out of left field. Otherwise I really like conversion. #1 town read right now. maybe a scummy post, haven't decided yet and I don't need to act on it until much later. | ||
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On November 24 2017 03:06 Tumblewood wrote: i guess i'm fine with stan or hapa? but the way the thread is going concerns me. no one trying to stop anything. This is of course completely pointless speculation. What mafia team would try to defend hapa in this situation? Of course it sucks if he decided to play as bad town, but you can only do so much. There's legitimate charges against him and he hasn't addressed any of it. Jumping off him on some thread reaction wifom is stupid. | ||
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I'm going to ignore this tonight. will maybe read some stuff tomorrow. | ||
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While it's tempting to go for lynching 3 shitty has-been lazy veterans maybe we need to start working on lynching mafia now. | ||
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On November 25 2017 01:50 Conversion wrote: nah I don't think y'all are has-beens as well. I just get bad vibes from the VE/Palmar power couple. agreed on lynching mafia. we've missed 2 now, and that's no good. who are your top bets Palmar? irregardless of flip I am reading some filters but no changed conclusions so far. Still think most of oats/ve/koshi/stan/ruxxar/you are town and mafia is most likely somewhere in df/kelsier/tw I am almost 100% sure though that one of my townreads is wrong. | ||
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You still think I'm supertown right? | ||
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My brother asked what time it is and I looked at it and it was literally 8:29pm my time. I was like "holy fuck isn't there lynch in like a minute". So I grabbed my phone and frantically tried to edit in the stupid brackets and shit to get the vote in before the deadline. I haven't read the OP so I had no idea if not voting would get me modkilled. I figured I'd probably be too late but I thought maybe posting just a few seconds too late might cause the mods to give me some leeway, so I did post anyway. The target of the lynch was just the guy I made a case on before the weekend. Not like I had much chance to review it. So there we go. Palmar 100% supertown and cleared again. | ||
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On November 27 2017 03:27 darthfoley wrote: Join me on the glorious Palmar lynch wagon #Unvote ##Vote: Palmar On November 27 2017 05:24 darthfoley wrote: Fine. Idk why i'm even helping the town at this point considering we're doing our best to throw. I watched Chez visit Oats last night. I'm watcher; he's serial killer. We should lynch Chez ???? | ||
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right let's work through this. We have how many flipped blues? Just the cop? | ||
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11v3vSK is almost certainly the setup. | ||
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On November 25 2017 06:42 ruXxar wrote: I keep thinking about the day 1 lynch. what mafia wouldnt grab the chance to get HF lynched. I think after palmar jumped on, it was basically a risk free lynch for mafia. From the votes day1/2 TW is the most likely scum on that wagon. Not even I am so sure of my alignment | ||
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On November 28 2017 05:38 Conversion wrote: ve/cop/watcher if DF's claim is right my question is how does watcher work? do you get to see the alignment of the person, or just visitations? just visitations is standard TL watcher. | ||
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On November 28 2017 10:05 Conversion wrote: entertain me you two. do you think any mafia didn't vote yesterday? yes | ||
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##vote KelsierSC | ||
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Kelsier is a much better gut feel lynch than stan. However there very much exists a world where they're both mafia. Conversion, df, me, koshi may all be town although I'm still sure the mechanically correct play is to lynch koshi. | ||
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On November 29 2017 22:47 Conversion wrote: palmar I’d like an answer why you think stan was a newbie when he clearly stated early on in his 1 page filter he wasn’t ome newbie is a bit strong a word. His posts lack direction. No matter his alignment he's done a terrible job of explaining himself. Being bad at explaining yourself isn't a mafia trait. I mean he could be mafia, but if I were a betting man I'd bet against it. Then again, I've killed a bunch of townies this game. | ||
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On November 29 2017 23:33 Conversion wrote: but these are your words exactly, and you're not answering the real question I had no idea he was a smurf until now. I haven't really read the game. | ||
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I'll make a short case now: 1) He has 4 pages of filter with no memorable content. 2) This was a bullshit quote based on nothing. On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote: Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me. 3) basically just forgot about TW and went here: On November 21 2017 00:57 KelsierSC wrote: The group i'd want to lynch out of would be . df,tumble,stan,conversion,oats and ruxxar. I'm not going to consider anyone else for D1, 4) he also never really tried to do anything. Look at him finding ruxxar scummy: On November 21 2017 01:26 KelsierSC wrote: Like this is the sort of blend in post that mafia makes when you have to go against a previous read and try to get a new wagon started. But then leaving a bunch of options open. On November 21 2017 01:41 KelsierSC wrote: I think i'd rather lynch tumble,conv or ruxxar at this point over df 5) This post is super scum On November 21 2017 03:21 KelsierSC wrote: I'm out until deadline , don't screw up He did come around and remember TW, and actually made a case on him. But he made the case and left with "don't screw up". It was a terrible terrible attempt at pushing his lynch. He never cared if his top scumread got lynched at all. 6) On November 22 2017 07:08 KelsierSC wrote: I don't care about anything until damdred talks about why he didn't shoot Think I already explaind why this is super scum. 7) Finally I think he's barely paying attention to the game at all. | ||
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Vote KelsierSC, he should be dead. He's been a complete non-factor and had a weird attitude. His play is inconsistent. | ||
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On November 30 2017 05:39 darthfoley wrote: Palmar even called out that "visitations are standard on TL" but then he dropped it and everyone else seemed to forget I didn't read the game, wasn't paying attention | ||
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SKs make games swingy. If Chez had shot mafia things would've been different. But I don't really think it matters all that much. Our cop being afk was of course terrible. | ||
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On November 30 2017 21:30 Skynx wrote: I think a Medic/Cop could be better in retrospective but its always harder to judge at beginning. You were 5 mins away from lynching DF Day1, imagine how different the game would've been. Medic/Cop is just as weak. town needed a kp. | ||
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On November 30 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote: Imagine how different it would be if you read the game. eyah, or if you didn't get lynched day 1 like a newbie | ||
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