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On November 02 2017 05:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Also that ninjavote on Darth Foley is interesting rux, care to share?
It's not a ninja vote. I think DF is the most scummy person right now.
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On November 02 2017 06:00 Oatsmaster wrote: You "detected a change in meta" off like 5 posts. Wow im the one "blowing things up".
Also you didn't even put a read on me lol or on HF. Niceeee.
Also what was your meaning of that post that darth quoted?
Reading it back, I realize my thoughts probably didn't translate well to paper. Let me try again.
1) I'm suspicious of the fact that damerions meta has changed so drastically from being a laid back passive character posting his reads to now taking a more upfront and active role. It's a warning sign when something is different, so I'm paying attention.
2) I think the way his meta is changing is actually good for achieving his goals of having more credibility and having more pull. He's more confident and more engaging in a call to action manner. He's now trying to take the lead and push forward.
3) Whether his meta changed bcause his alignment changed or whether it changed because he realized he needs to change up his play style due to lack of success in getting his lynches through remains to be seen. Those two are not mutally exclusive, so it could be either or both.
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On November 02 2017 06:02 Oatsmaster wrote: You did give yourself an out and went back and forth between implying that damerion was towny and that damerion was scummy. Which is essentially what darth said.
Sure, but calling it scummy is a leap of logic when my reasons are perfectly sound.
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On November 02 2017 06:05 darthfoley wrote: Also @ruxx how am i being wishy washy? I'm not posting townreads lightly. I have four. How is that keeping every option open?
krogan and shockey are scum + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 07:47 Damdred wrote: Idk. Scum often have trouble entering. Especially new scum. It makes sense for scum!Krogan to try and be funny by copying someone rather than having his own entrance.
Also don't like shockey's entrance
ruxxar is scum + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 09:04 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote: ##vote ShoCkeyy[/b
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments. Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility. Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around. Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced. Worst post so far. Good chance of being scum
Dislike ticktock + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:12 darthfoley wrote: Oh. I also don't like Ticktock because he's distraught that we are not "in sync" 4 hours into a game. Lol. I haven't even played with you in like a year.
Oats is scum + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 13:09 darthfoley wrote: I'm just gonna vote you for now
##Oatsmaster
Conversion is possibly scum + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 13:19 darthfoley wrote: Fwiw, Conversion could definitely be a salty 2x scum roller who is sick of being pressured D1. I'm too tired to look over his filter tonight, but his hissy fit was alarming.
I don't spend my time piling on people 3 hours into a game. There are other avenues to be explored like you, and ruxxar! And maybe HF
Krogan is town + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2017 03:20 darthfoley wrote: Krogan is town
Shockey is town + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2017 03:21 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:19 ShoCkeyy wrote: Oats is also too sporadic in the voting thread, jumping onto who ever seems the "easiest" to vote off. Him and Damerian posting are so similar it's disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them flipped red.
Idk if a mafia posts this. I don't think so
Oats is town + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2017 03:33 darthfoley wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok rux is likely mafia, tick tock possible mafia, damdred in the same spot as tick tock.
Shockey vs conversion is tvt
thank fucking god someone else understands this
Conversion is town + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2017 03:38 darthfoley wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:25 Oatsmaster wrote: What are you scum reads Darth?
Basically retweet what you just said.
I think Conversion is town. His play is so diametrically opposed to last game. Shockey is also town for some posts that I just don't think a mafia makes-- especially a rusty mafia who hasn't played in a long time(?). I kind of have to town lean you for having a mindmeld with me. Last night I was really tired trying to lesson plan and play mafia and it wasn't a good idea. Krogan is also just obviously town
Still think ruxx is likely mafia, and I also don't like Ticktock so far, for different reasons (not the HF post).
Vivax is scum + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2017 03:42 darthfoley wrote: Throw Vivax into my scum pile for me
Zen master is scum + Show Spoiler +[B]On November 02 2017 06:09 darthfoley wrote: I think one of Vivax/Zen master are mafia. Not sure which
I think it's pretty clear you're just jumping from one guy to the next with your scum reads.
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On November 02 2017 06:14 Oatsmaster wrote: But you disagree with the assessment that your post is swinging back and forth between calling damerion townie and scummy? Cause it looks like you totally meant that and that darth analysed it correctly.
1) damerion's posting is scummy 2) damerion's posting is townie 3) it might be either I DUNNO?!?!
That's literally what darth said. And you clearly agree with it. So how does that make darth overanalysing every little thing??
Because it was obvious he was looking for reasons to call me scum, and not trying to objectively evaluate why I said what I did. He was looking for plausible cause to push his scum read.
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On November 02 2017 06:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 06:35 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 06:14 Oatsmaster wrote: But you disagree with the assessment that your post is swinging back and forth between calling damerion townie and scummy? Cause it looks like you totally meant that and that darth analysed it correctly.
1) damerion's posting is scummy 2) damerion's posting is townie 3) it might be either I DUNNO?!?!
That's literally what darth said. And you clearly agree with it. So how does that make darth overanalysing every little thing?? Because it was obvious he was looking for reasons to call me scum, and not trying to objectively evaluate why I said what I did. He was looking for plausible cause to push his scum read. No, no, tell me how darth's analysis is wrong because it seems like he got it on the nose. Am I scum too? Cause I agree with what he said. Oh really?
On November 01 2017 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote: ##vote ShoCkeyy[/b
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments. Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility. Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around. [b]Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced. I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about. Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary Let me break down the bolded sentence for you 1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game 2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential 3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off? 4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy. So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger You are a whole lotta nothing burger. What are you eving doing with this post.
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On November 02 2017 08:31 Holyflare wrote: Ticktock I feel like he comes into the game to make comments that aren't particularly difficult and sounds arbitrary and made up and then he leaves again after "contributing". It feels very artificial to me and I have no idea why so many people say they like it.
Despite the unorthodox running commentary style, I like the content and reasoning behind his reads. It’s very down to earth and logical.
Maybe if I looked hard enough for a reason to call him scum I would call it cookie cutter reads?
That a bit of a stretch though.
He just seems like your regular plain straight up and down average vanilla townie.
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On November 02 2017 14:31 Tictock wrote:Oats if this is what you are talking about re HFvsConcersion... Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:23 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote: You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all. I'm not putting words in HF's myouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote: That's a quote from last game ... Where he was town? This is crap bickering about stuff from last game. I tend to zone out when people talk around each other, kus Conv was making a point about HF anyways not Damer. Besides Conv's original read on Damer was basically just "he's different than last game, that's weird, that could maybe mean he's scum" Honestly rereading that I feel like HF was blowing shit out of proportion and jumping down Conv's throat. All the while voting the guy Conv had issues with. Do you see why I'm seeing a possible scum!flare here? In fact I don't even think a HF/Damer team is impossible here. I feel like HF has spent most of the game pushing people other than Damer.
I don’t think you actually understood what went down there between me, Conversion and holyflare, so let me recap it for you:
1) Conversion calls damerion scum, due to the fact that damerion has changed his play style.
Conversion says this is scummy because holyflare has said that there was no reason for damerion to change his play style since it was working so well for him.
only when questioned by me does conversion admit that holyflare never said that this game, but that it was actually a quote from last game.
Conversion also made it seem like it was super obvious he was talking about something holyflare said last game.
2) As if that wasn’t bad enough, the argument that conversion claimed holyflare used to call damerion scum was actually wrong.
Holy flare last game claimed that damerion was scummy for changing his play style. Well, Damerion was town last game, so holyflares argument was incorrect.
Conversion did not seem to have evaluated that part at all and just wanted more credibility to his damerion read by adding holyflares name to his post.
The fact that you didn’t understand that is affecting my view of you negatively.
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On November 02 2017 20:30 Conversion wrote: y’all are still stuck on that lmao
I thought damerion was weird for playing differently and y’all jumped on my throat for sharing something I felt weird about. I said it was the same line of thinking as HF last game, never said I was 1000% right nor was I calling him scum. just something that I felt weird about
was it bad play? yes. did I flaunt myself for being correct or tried to namedrop HF? no
Yea, you’ve admitted that it was a fuckup. I’m over it. But for tick tock to just brush it off without understanding why we even argued comes off as very superficial.
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On November 02 2017 22:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 12:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:Voted Damerion since he pushed me, then decided to bounce with out saying a word... talking about he needs to make a name for himself?... There is also the AFK that really hasn't posted once. Breshke Damerion is probably the best choice right now no? I personally think so only because he talked big to just disappear.
That's pretty par for the course for damerion. Inactivity is not alignment indicative for him.
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On November 02 2017 22:32 Damdred wrote: Im back, am catching up now yo
Dammy <3 <3 <3.
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On November 02 2017 23:00 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 22:56 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 22:32 Damdred wrote: Im back, am catching up now yo Dammy <3 <3 <3. Hey baby, so I noticed that you felt like TT was being a bit off with how he handled the you v concersion. Do you think its scum indicative or just bad town. Also his last read post, I thought it lacked a bit. whats your say about it?
I didn't like how he handled it for sure. It definitely put a damper on my enthusiasm for him.
His last read post reads like a shopping list where he just goes through the motions and checks people off without really caring at all.
I get a very stand-offish feeling from his reads. He's observing from the distance, taking a neutral stance and trying to keep everything in balance. Not tipping the scales too much either way.
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On November 03 2017 00:49 Damdred wrote: Lets go baby boy, lots of tt talk bit much votes though
The more I read TTs read post the worse it looks.
I was gonna summarize each of his reads and why they are so bad, but there's no point when people can just read them themselves.
I'm switching to TT.
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On November 03 2017 01:00 Holyflare wrote: you can sheep me all you want
Hello holyflare. How are you?
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On November 03 2017 01:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 16:18 Holyflare wrote: Like my 2nd post is my vote and the third is an explanation of that vote. There's quite literally nothing more to talk about Damerion because he hasn't posted a single thing since.
Also conversion effectively called Damerion scummy without saying he was scummy. He said "oh his posting style is completely different and that's bad! (but anyone in context would read that as scummy)" and then be proceeded to quote me from last game to further that argument that Damerion is weird but Damerion was town when I made that argument. Conversion was literally arguing about Damerion being mafia (but apparently it was just strange and not mafia) but using my wrong read to further the argument.
It really wasn't blown out of proportion like you purport at all. That's incredibly disingenuous. You are right I missed you explain your vote in your 3rd post till I reread last night, thought I mentioned that but it may have slipped my attention. I do think you and many other players blow stuff out of proportion when people are just sharing their thoughts. Like Conv noticed something that was different in Damer's play and made a note about it, then everyone made a huge deal about him speaking his mind. That is what is being blow out of proportion imo. People generally go with feelings and gut reads day one and sometimes those reads aren't super nailed down. That is basically how I play all the time and it always gets me scum read, buy I don't give a shit kus it is how I prefer to approach the game. It bugs me when I see you guys forcing someone into a corner when there is just misunderstandings about what they are trying to say. The pressure is fine, that is part of the game, it just gets excessive and it's something I notice older scum players will hide behind.
There was no misunderstanding. Conversion was spouting bullshit.
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On November 03 2017 01:08 Conversion wrote: can we get off this case y'all are wasting thread space
HF votes Damerion b/c he's randomly zealous and pushing people immediately or something like that
Ruxx basically says the same thing ("I like the confidence, it's forced, not sure if one time thing, etc.")
I said his play isn't as good and I get shat on by two people who basically shared the sentiment, but the wording was bad
1) You deliberately used a quote that was from the last game, making it seem like it was something HF said this game. That's not bad wording, that's intentional deceit.
2) The quote you used was wrong, because it was NOT a good scum indicator for damerion, yet you used it anyway pushing your argument as if it had a leg to stand on with HFs name flying high in there.
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On November 03 2017 01:11 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 16:39 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 14:31 Tictock wrote:Oats if this is what you are talking about re HFvsConcersion... On November 01 2017 09:23 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote: You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all. I'm not putting words in HF's myouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote: That's a quote from last game ... Where he was town? This is crap bickering about stuff from last game. I tend to zone out when people talk around each other, kus Conv was making a point about HF anyways not Damer. Besides Conv's original read on Damer was basically just "he's different than last game, that's weird, that could maybe mean he's scum" Honestly rereading that I feel like HF was blowing shit out of proportion and jumping down Conv's throat. All the while voting the guy Conv had issues with. Do you see why I'm seeing a possible scum!flare here? In fact I don't even think a HF/Damer team is impossible here. I feel like HF has spent most of the game pushing people other than Damer. I don’t think you actually understood what went down there between me, Conversion and holyflare, so let me recap it for you: 1) Conversion calls damerion scum, due to the fact that damerion has changed his play style. Conversion says this is scummy because holyflare has said that there was no reason for damerion to change his play style since it was working so well for him. only when questioned by me does conversion admit that holyflare never said that this game, but that it was actually a quote from last game. Conversion also made it seem like it was super obvious he was talking about something holyflare said last game. 2) As if that wasn’t bad enough, the argument that conversion claimed holyflare used to call damerion scum was actually wrong. Holy flare last game claimed that damerion was scummy for changing his play style. Well, Damerion was town last game, so holyflares argument was incorrect. Conversion did not seem to have evaluated that part at all and just wanted more credibility to his damerion read by adding holyflares name to his post. The fact that you didn’t understand that is affecting my view of you negatively. Ok I don't give a shit about this anymore, I don't get the full context of what the quote was from last game, I just see Conv noting something he thought was weird and it got blown up by several people. Bottom line is I think Conv is Town because despite all this shit he has stayed active and hasn't backed down from his thinking. The maytering was bad but I can see why he would get flustered. I'm done trying to explain why I see this the way I do.
I don't care about conversion right now. I care about you and your terrible read list.
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Can you guys shut up or I'm going to petition to lynch both of you.
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On November 02 2017 15:17 Tictock wrote: Ok read post and then bedtime.
Town -> Scum
Oats Actively pushing the game, solid interactions, good tone. Would be majorly impressed if he is keeping this activity up while scum for the 2nd game in a row, specially endgaming last game
Ruxx Feels like bubbly free flowing Ruxx. Activity is probably NAI for him but he's keeping his thoughts coming. Possibly buddied
Conv Just a newer player struggling to find ground. Got emo and tried to mayrter earlier on but never dropped off and resisted pressure. Likely Town
Krogan More nullish, raised some good points, not terribly active. Interesting opener
Damer Had a decent post, dissapeared. Possible god reads, I foolishly have hope he will do something interesting before EoD
Breshke I hope I spelled his name right. Possibly will be renamed with an R name
Damdred damdead? A couple decent tonal reads, pretty meh
HF I've already talked a lot on this read, may be stuck at odds with him
Vivax pretty forgettable this game, gets this spot because his name was autocorrected into vivacious
Zendude Made one big post about DF, needs to play the game, Super new?
Shokey shaped up his game noticeably after pressure, lynchbait or scum?
DF all over the place, don't get where his head is at, he goes from super bitchcy with Oats to hard buddy mode for no reason, main reason to scum read me is something silly I said early on about him
I think this is more or less where I am, I had to skim DF's filter more than I would have liked due to needing sleep and all. I think I will be happy if anyone from my bottom 5 get lynched.
I'm going to sleep on my vote I should probably move it to DF but based on last count it seems pretty likely one of him and Shokey are getting lynched and I'm not sure I really care which ATM.
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