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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 10:17 GMT
#939
On August 26 2017 19:01 Vivax wrote:
I'm still waffly on skynx. I don't think that his koshi meta dive makes him mafia as much as I thought back then (cause it was mostly just a very secluded way of doing things), but if he doesn't get his hands dirty on something soon I'm not going to change my vote.

He thinks Koshi is town and sheeps him on stuff but it doesn't bother him that there's HF and other dudes trying to wagon him? It sure bothered me.

And HF, filter size isn't a slam dunk argument for the entire game, but for me it is for D1 at the very least. D1 most of the time town has the head up the butt and mafia doesn't have to do that much, so I'm not lynching big filter guys no matter what.

Amount of irony in this post is hilarious. Go away and bother rest of the game, who even has a solid scumread at this point except HF and Koshi?

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:01 GMT
#982
You guys are dumb as fuck
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:02 GMT
#983
Sad thing is its prolly all town on me again
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:04 GMT
#986
On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".

But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around.

ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing.

Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out....

It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought.

Not really, no.

I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this.

I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something.

Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous.

See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process.
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On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

It is very simple.
Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y.

No way.

He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:06 GMT
#991
On August 26 2017 20:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On August 25 2017 23:58 Skynx wrote:
Back on topic:

My plan is to ignore alignment of HF til later, prolly Day2.5 as he's hard to read and altogether impossible to lynch D1.

TW/gerpit/Art looks like a good trio to focus at

Why did you suddenly start scumreading TW when you called him townie earlier for focussing on your Koshi read? You hadn't mentioned him at all yet as a scummy person until this post.

Because 1 thing does not make someone 100% town or scum.

On August 26 2017 02:20 Skynx wrote:
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On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.

1/20

There is 0 reason to tr TW in this game.


"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:09 GMT
#993
On August 26 2017 20:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing.

Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out....

It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought.

Not really, no.

I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this.

I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something.

Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous.

See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process.
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

It is very simple.
Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y.

No way.

He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies.


Quote a post that makes tw not just a +1. Then respond to vivax why you ignored your own statement and scum read tw.

On August 25 2017 04:54 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 25 2017 04:53 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote:
Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy.

Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader.

(Generic 3)
Koshi posts gameplans as mafia

##Vote: Koshi


lmao

This is his original reaction. Not a +1.
On August 25 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 25 2017 05:07 Skynx wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
I will be playing superslow. Still banking all that mad respect from last game.

(Starwars: rogue one)
On October 04 2016 06:03 Koshi wrote:
Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe.

(Murder on Cruise)
On August 16 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Second. Confirmed town.

Wanted to play this game really really slow. But I got a pretty cool role so maybe not.

(purge)

We might be on a pattern here actually

have you looked at a single town game

This is his second reaction when i keep linking Koshi!mafia games.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:10 GMT
#995
On August 26 2017 20:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:02 Skynx wrote:
Sad thing is its prolly all town on me again

When did you start townreading me?

Cuz you are so lost in this game you have no idea what you're doing.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:13 GMT
#1000
On August 26 2017 20:10 Holyflare wrote:
Do you town read koshi skynx?

I was considering your points when rayn started defiling the thread. Now i don't really care tbh.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:15 GMT
#1004
On August 26 2017 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I probably want to lynch Koshi or Geript instead.

???????
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:18 GMT
#1008
If parity cop is hiding right now thanks for losing this game to rayn & co.
Otherwise rayn is channeling his inner Anakin pretty hard right now follow him on your peril.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:26 GMT
#1012
On August 26 2017 20:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:18 Skynx wrote:
If parity cop is hiding right now thanks for losing this game to rayn & co.
Otherwise rayn is channeling his inner Anakin pretty hard right now follow him on your peril.


Wtf does any of this have to do with rayns cop claim?

Cuz i have no other reason to townread him. Rayn usually is calm and collected, not necessarily this tunnelling.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:44 GMT
#1022
On August 26 2017 20:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:26 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 20:22 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 20:18 Skynx wrote:
If parity cop is hiding right now thanks for losing this game to rayn & co.
Otherwise rayn is channeling his inner Anakin pretty hard right now follow him on your peril.


Wtf does any of this have to do with rayns cop claim?

Cuz i have no other reason to townread him. Rayn usually is calm and collected, not necessarily this tunnelling.


I'll just repeat the issue from my point of view and see what explanation you can come up with.

This is what you told me
Show nested quote +
What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum.


Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:
[quote]
(that shitty bastard game, koshi town)

yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general

##Unvote



On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time.

If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded.


In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group.

brb reading thread.



PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l).
+ Show Spoiler +
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Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good.
+ Show Spoiler +
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so good.


72 hours mafia. Town.

I don't think that's how you should hunt scum.

And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this.

What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example?

I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho.

What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum.

Elaborate on this conclusion please.

If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game.

If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be?

Mind meld?

The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling.


You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you.

That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo


To keep it simple. The first quote doesn't lead anywhere.
You don't know Koshi's alignment, so you can't conclude anything about us that way. That already looks bad and like you felt forced to give a read and had the heebie jeebies.

Then when Koshi (or HF according to hf) points out that it's wrong cause we could still be mafia, you can't think of an answer that would make sense and just reply that TW shouldn't be included, which completely dodges the issue and just looks like you're dodging.

I think this is more or less what rayn was after.

I don't see you not getting lynched after this cause it just looks like you were flat out lying. You have a higher chance to not get lynched if you actually admit to have lied for whatever reason was floating your mind at the time.

No you better make up your mind on my alignment rather. I just explained my thoughts for the billionth time.
On August 26 2017 14:39 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like TRing skynx on a whim tbh.

I've been thinking a bit about his whole Koshi approach at the start of the game. am not so sure any more that it is a scummy way of starting the game. Sloppy, yes. But maybe also a genuine way of trying to apply meta.

So yea, I'm unscumreading him cause he did that instead of just being an opinion leech.

##Unvote

Now an alternative is needed, hrm.

Then I'd appreciate you to have an opinion on rest of the game aswell.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:52 GMT
#1032
On August 26 2017 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think i stil lwant to lynch Skynx. i kind of agree on what you say Artanis, but meh.. If we do not lynch Skynx i think regardless of his affiliation we will lose the game because if the dude is not mafia he lacks every single bit of any reading comprehension. It's like complete opposite from last game for example where he was actually able to provide coherent thoughts that were in line with each other. It's like someone took half of his brain out this game.

On August 26 2017 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here.


On August 25 2017 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

whaaaaat?

That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point.

It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.

Then stop making stupid cases.

??????
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:53 GMT
#1033
On August 26 2017 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Vivax just asked him to explain a simple thing. He quotes a post that has nothing to do what Vivax asks.
What gives?

He wants me to admit something which does not exist. That might make sense in your world i guess.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 11:57 GMT
#1037
On August 26 2017 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like the Koshi's Calix banana case so here is what Skynx does:

Vivax: Skynx can you tell me why did you put a banana into your bag? I saw you doing it.
Skynx: Here is a picture of me eating an apple. What do you say now, Vivax, huh?

Every single time he defends himself he does this.

Oh shit that mush make Skynx mafia...

go lynch me rayn, im not even gona defend anymore cuz this is not playing mafia. I'm gona do what you and Vivax are incapable of doing and read others.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 12:04 GMT
#1042
On August 26 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Skynx is somehow town then geript will always be mafia. Also Koshi will always be town then. I heavily disagree with people who say geript and Koshi can be mafia together.

why?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 12:12 GMT
#1046
On August 26 2017 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing.

Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out....

It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought.

Not really, no.

I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this.

I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something.

Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous.

See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process.
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

It is very simple.
Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y.

No way.

He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies.

See here is another thing. At the time i intentionally asked Skynx who HE THINKS was the first one (and who is +1'ing).
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On August 25 2017 05:44 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it.

It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first?

You can find your answer by reading the thread.

I am unsure what you think, what i think doesn't matter if i am trying to get a read on you.

You know aswell as i do that Vivax posted it first.

I appreciate getting ganged up on guys keep it coming.

You're lying again. At the time Skynx thought Vivax was the one first to point out this. Then TW and LS.

Now he is saying he didn't actually think so after all. If he thought TW and LS were +1'ing Vivax, then the Koshi quote and his 180 after that makes no sense at all. And he DID think so at the time. Now he is saying something else, again...

Classic mafia play, change your story as you see it bet fit.

You know how i think better then me?

See my reply to HF,

Vivax was first to bring it up, no objection and thats what i said.
TW's reaction was "lmao", not a +1, thats a fact.
TW's reaction to me continuing my push is same as Vivax, which is not a +1 cuz it came as a second thought.

/finalreplyonthismatter
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 12:14 GMT
#1048
On August 26 2017 21:01 Vivax wrote:
I'd settle for killing Ruxxar who sits in the sidelines occasionally sniping vulnerable posts as well and other reasons mentioned earlier. I think he's also mafia cause he doesn't sound as pants on head while being spammy as fuck like the last game I was in with him.

Also Oats, but his bad tunnel on me might have clouded my judgement.
Then Artanis for pretending to agree with the whole skynx issue then immediately starting to post a case on Koshi and laughing at skynx while doing it.
Then HF for a bit of paranoia and cause he's also after Koshi.

That should also be enough reads for skynx. The rest of the game is pretty much in at the very least a weak town pile. I still don't see how anything makes Koshi mafia besides for wanting to kill afkers at some point, and jokish posts where he claims scum.

So thats a scumread on Oats, Art and HF?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 12:16 GMT
#1050
On August 26 2017 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1:
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On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:
[quote]
(that shitty bastard game, koshi town)

yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general

##Unvote



On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time.

If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded.


In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group.

brb reading thread.



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Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good.
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so good.


72 hours mafia. Town.

I don't think that's how you should hunt scum.

And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this.

What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example?

I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho.

What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum.

Elaborate on this conclusion please.

If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game.

If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be?

Mind meld?

The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling.


You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you.

That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo

2:
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On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

whaaaaat?

That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point.

It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.

Like i cannot see how anyone can actually think (1) and (2) are true at the same time.

You're just focusing on "That's what I'm trying to say"
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 12:29 GMT
#1053
I see how i constructed it horribly actually.

TW +1'ing was not true so what Koshi implied wasn't true so i said that's what i mean trying to imply the opposite was true as his basis was wrong.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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