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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:46 Holyflare wrote: I also want to look into rayn's vote on me. He keeps saying it's easy to buddy up to me and vote me for town cred for the vest but his actions around the deadline stink the most of that. His actions st the first power up. | ||
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CopCake
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:44 Holyflare wrote: We can cop check geript really easily. He just has to promise to 100% medic me and not lie. If he ever claims he vested as a ploy he's confirmed mafia. how is this a cop check? | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:46 Conversion wrote: who are they gonna shoot that's even remotely as good me? you? Jealous? H1? rayn? The person doesnt matter, the numbers do. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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CopCake
4378 Posts
This, like mafia targeting HF apparently always townfirms him. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Geript dies, he's town. I die, geript mafia. Random dies, geript very likely mafia but even if he's not then some random dies and there are a lot of people who we don't know the alignment of so it's great all around. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
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Conversion
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:48 Conversion wrote: like any of those shots would give more information than shooting HF to town, which is why I said vote for me because it forces scum to shoot someone else How o_O? Like... | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:47 Holyflare wrote: I'm not the only one reading rayn's jealous push as shit right? Talk to me guys. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote: Geript dies, he's town. I die, geript mafia. Random dies, geript very likely mafia but even if he's not then some random dies and there are a lot of people who we don't know the alignment of so it's great all around. Do you read yourself? If a town Geript doc you and mafia decided to shot someone else it doesnt make Geript mafia WTF | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote: Geript dies, he's town. I die, geript mafia. Random dies, geript very likely mafia but even if he's not then some random dies and there are a lot of people who we don't know the alignment of so it's great all around. this doesn't sound like a cop check to me. the first two parts are true but unlikely, and i'm not sure a rando dying is helpful. i mean, if they have to they can just kill copcake and we learn next to nothing. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
Maybe. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
okay I'll explain my thought process HF talks a lot. there are people in this game that can read him if he is scum in the end game. I have full faith in that now there are people I am unsure of (H1, Geript, TW, etc.) so flipping them gives me more information than if HF flips. If HF dies, who the hell are his possible scummates? everyone in this game? HF is a large presence in the thread so yeah you got the big bad boss, but do you have any more leads to reading anyone else? I don't, which is why I don't want to kill HF. I don't care if he's mafia or town, there are better targets to flip after N2 than him though. We can agree to disagree, but not only do you have to figure out this HF nonsense, you have to figure out what geript is with the judge situation too. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:51 CopCake wrote: Do you read yourself? If a town Geript doc you and mafia decided to shot someone else it doesnt make Geript mafia WTF Why would mafia leave a town geript with a power up alive? Everyone majority voted geript into a power up. He's clearly the most town read person in the game. Why would mafia not take a free opportunity to shoot him? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 22 2017 05:42 Holyflare wrote: This is a completely bull shit narrative. Jealous originally says he's the best because he knows his alignment, that's fine. There is nothing wrong with that. He thinks you and Cake can be EITHER OR!!!! He sarcastically said "so i just didn't bother to gather votes to myself as scum". That's what i questioned him for, if he doesn't necessarily think you or Cake are town, why WOULDNT HE BOTHER DO THAT AS TOWN???? (that was his first "this is why you should town read me). It's completely stupid. At deadline tw made a copcake town case, Ritoky had just returned and voted copcake, you voted copcake. It looked like bull shit was going to happen. Jealous does the smart thing and realises copcake is a bad vote and hf has pushed smart things and he votes me. I am not arguing against that. I am arguing, whatever he does at that point, if he is mafia, doesn't matter. Because it literally doesn't. Can you understand the simple fact that where ever Jealous votes when he votes, IT DOESNT MATTER!!! Unless ofc there is another mafia person who is NOT on you and they want to "shennie" onto someone who is NOT you. That's the only scenario where it matters, otherwise it doesn't fucking matter at all. It's a win-win situation because the expectation, 1 minute before the deadline is, that you will get the power up. He either "looks good", or someone who is not mafia does something stupid, and everyone can blame them and he still "looks good". It's easy to remember in your mind that votes were close and if someone says 4-4-4 you remember it's close then I imagine it's really easy to assume they did basic fact checking to come up with that. It's an easy mistake to make. No it isn't. It isn't if you are in the situation yourself. And that's not the point. The point is that even if there was a 4-4-4 situation, Jealous' vote change didn't come EVEN FUCKING close to the assumed 4-4-4. It came at the last second when he very well knew what the vote count was because there is a votecount in the voting thread right above it......... Who the fuck even cares if there was a 4-4-4 vote situation 3 hours before the deadline when he votes at the last second????? | ||
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