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On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: try to tell why geript If I figure it out, I'll explain then. I think we should lynch HF just to ruin his stats | ||
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On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote: want to vomit blood trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again Not the post I wanted you to pick up on so I could like you more...  | ||
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On July 13 2017 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: i do not think so. he wants holyflare to be town instead of wanting to know if holyflare is town. i think it makes him scum. Think about this and think about my goals when I play as mafia. FWIW, I like your read on Rux. I don't think it makes him scum but it does make him a good default lynch | ||
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On July 13 2017 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) i am gonna check this out in a bit 2) i disagree, there is logic, always, it is either scum or town logic. the last sentence i am not sure of if he is just trying to play me or what... i genuinely dont understand why he has "no comment" on his read, since there is always a reason, jsut like if you have a "i have a read on this guy but the reason is bad" - reasoning, there is always a reason 3) mhm. There's always a reason for my reads as any alignment. But as Town, sometimes it takes me a while to figure out what that reason is. One thing that through me off a bit was your post here: On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: try to tell why geript It's a really bad post from you and at the time the worst post in the thread. Like if I'm scum, I'm waiting for a post like this so I get to control the dialogue in the direction I want. As Town, sometime I just haven't figured out what seems off yet. Plus, as Town, I'm not going to be like, "well this dude is obv scum but I'm not gonna tell you why." Then you had this post: On July 13 2017 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: i do not think so. he wants holyflare to be town instead of wanting to know if holyflare is town. i think it makes him scum. Which is also really bad. If I'm scum, I want HF to be scum. I in no way want HF to be Town because he just fucking dominates discussion and shits over all my carefully laid out plans and I can't really fuck with him too much the way I can fuck with you or Damdred. Like me wanting HF to be Town is true, but that's by I'm Town. Scum HF is a royal Pain in the ass. Like I think you're town because of you're read on Rux, but like I said before I don't think it makes Rux scum. | ||
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On July 13 2017 09:56 ruXxar wrote: Then explain clearly what parts you found dull and boring and how they make her mafia. Reading and comprehension clearly aren't your strong suits. | ||
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On July 13 2017 10:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: What are your reasons? Don't care if they apply anymore, what were they? In my bigger post above. I just want to solve game and win. Have fun. The usual | ||
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On July 13 2017 10:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a townread on EC, nothing more. I don't think what you said on rsoultin makes her mafia, that was one of the first posts in the game. Mind explaining it. I was just rereading and thinking he looked bad | ||
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On July 13 2017 10:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: But in the bigger post you dont even try to think about (well apparently before -- see my "bad posts") what i think, where i am coming from. You have this thing where you completely ignore what i am trying to do and turn it around into "why rayn could be mafia" by telling why YOU wouldn't do that as mafia (which -- if and as you are so aware of, you would totally do)... So what am i supposed to think? Fuck if I know. I get why you don't like the post. I think you're Town (not sure) and don't care pursuing it. I just didn't understand your play which is why I got dragged off thinking about rsoul | ||
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On July 13 2017 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: the thing is i dont dislike anything particular you have said. i jsut wanna know why you are saying the things you say. and you are not telling me. that's my problem. Other than the rsoul read (which I can't explain because I honestly don't know) what else do you want to know? Why I made the big post that looks like a Rayn is scum post? Because I want you to understand where I me coming from and why I don't have an answer for the rsoul read. I want you to be able to see how I'm thinking because that should lead you to me being Town (or we just throw hissy fits and scumread each other until one of us gets modkilled). Either's possible. Like I just want to be chill and lynch 3 for 3 I don't get what else you want to know | ||
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LOL b/c I was like... Rayn I don't think you've had a post with any bolded part after the game started | ||
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On July 13 2017 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like, geript, that was literally what i was doing, and you turned it around and called me mafia for it because i wasn't doing what i was doing in your opinion.. And that's how I think. I think in fucking random ass ways that connect things together that shouldn't logically be connected. It's just how the tracks run. I don't think you're scum so I wanted to work together; but you still think I'm scum so idfk how to help you rayn.. | ||
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On July 13 2017 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: talk about something else then. why doesn't my case on ruxxar make him mafia? Because you never account for a player just being fucking terrible. You always default to scum first. Like look at his his response to Damdred re: Rsoul. It's like he's brain dead. I'm looking for the post but dont' see it right now. You basically scum read him for POEing into 7 people in a 13 person game. Like sometimes, I just fucking forget that people are in the game and only think about who's talking. It's why I have to go back and re-read so often. I assume that people are fucking insane and do stupid shit with logical reasons. I think he can just be bad town. I mean, he's got like a fucking 4 page filter already and it's barely into D1. I don't know many people who are fucking comfortable with that shit at scum. He looks like he's floundering and doesnt' know what to do. That comes across as scummy, but it happens as every alignemnt (trust me I've put myself in that shit enough times). | ||
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On July 13 2017 10:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i dont assume people are shit and / or insane. And even if they are they are perfectly capable of saying "you're right, this is dumb". I know, but do you really think a scum Ruxxar makes those sort of responses to Damdred? Literally all they do is draw more attention to him. You can play "dumb townie" to some extent, but there's a fine line between that and being lynched for being dumbass. And his posts are pretty over the "dumbass" line. He might be scum, but I doubt he's a very high percentage flip. I'd guess maybe 20%. He looks like he's drowning and scum at this point would be trying to look more like they're treading water. | ||
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On July 13 2017 09:33 ruXxar wrote: The only thing new here is Rsoultin. And before you ask Rayn his opinion, you should give your own on why you would lynch her. On July 13 2017 09:42 ruXxar wrote: So it has nothing to do with the content of her post, but the fact that she hasn't been more active? She literally has like 1 post that says nothing at all. and these are the responses to Damdred's points. | ||
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I think that was the game I was a traiter and masoned Marv D 1 and we were both scum and got rekt by basically 2-3 people on the scum team suiciding. Am I right? | ||
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On July 13 2017 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: wait... this makes him a dumbass how? also you said my case does not make him mafia BEFORE any of these posts happened so what was the reason BEFORE any of these posts happened? I can't assume that someone who has drawn attention and hasn't made a post that made me think is dumb? Like he's been posting dumb shit all along and you want me to narrow it down to a specific thing. Come on Rayn, be reasonable. | ||
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I didn't realize you were a lady. Or maybe I forgot. IDK, I thought i had host a newbie game with you in it or something. | ||
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On July 13 2017 11:17 ruXxar wrote: I'm definitely not a lady. And yes we did play in a newbie game together where you died after posting a picture of an ass(donkey) if I remember correctly. Good times. | ||
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You're boring. Can you not be boring? | ||
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Rels Tumblewood Koshi VayneAuthority Rsoultin Skynx Sicklucker People who have barely played the game at all: Holyflare Eurochampion Damdred People who have played the game too damn much: Rayn Geript Ruxxor 95% sure I'm going to be lynching into the first group. | ||
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On July 13 2017 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript: i have a scumread on rsoultin rayn: why? geript: i can't explain it ray: can you at least try? geript: no rayn: mhm [after couple of pages] geript: of btw i think rayn is mafia because he is not trying to understand why i say the things i say This is a gross misrepresentation Rayn. I'm pretty sure that I've said multiple times that I think you're Town. If you want to rumble, we can rumble. | ||
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I posted it because you wanted to know and I wanted you to know. I don't know why I thought rsoul was scum based on her first post. I've focused on other things. It seemed off. Maybe no smileys. Maybe like Damdred said it was boring. Maybe it's that I don't think she should even mention Artanis kicking her out of the room. Or that since Artanis is hosting that she has to be scum because idk some other bullshit irrational reason. Fuck if I know. I can't figure it out. Nothing sticks. The only thing more annoying about it is that you keep on bugging me about it. Especially while I'm now enjoying LZ fuck BBQ in LCK. | ||
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On July 14 2017 02:46 Skynx wrote: Also Damdred, I don't like you buddying geript solely based on meta and feels. He has been getting a little handsy, but that's what turns me on so I won't tell his wife | ||
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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote: I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. The whole point of him on Ruxxar is that he didn't scumread EC for: I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it. Anyway thats not the main point: If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar. On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread?? rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. On geript: This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". ##Vote: raynpelikoneet This post is really fucking weird. Admits to not reading the whole thread. Calls Rayn scum. Doesn't bother to at least finish reading Rayn. I was really surprised when Rayn basically ignored this dude. Interesting side note: Rayn on track for 20+ page day 1 filter | ||
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On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote: -bounces- can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!- damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol >< i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons On rereading I really fucking hate this post from rsoultin the worst. I'm pretty sure that arguing with Rayn over lynching for dumbass is something I'd be more likely to do as scum. It looks like Tina doesnt fucking care about thinking about the game whatsoeve. | ||
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On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote: ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also:this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? | ||
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On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote: cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear | ||
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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote: I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote: I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it. Anyway thats not the main point: If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote: That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar. On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread?? rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point? The real kicker is here: On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote: This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here. ***BIG POINT READ THIS*** Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them. On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote: rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. [...] I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote: I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again. Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread. On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote: Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me. People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place. On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote: Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way? Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it. TLDR 1. Skynx downplays his own post 2. Skynx picks at trivial things 3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn 4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has | ||
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On July 14 2017 05:35 ruXxar wrote: I'm comparing this(town): With this(mafia): Part of it is meta, But mostly I actually can see where his thoughts are coming from. It might not look like much, but compared to his scum game, this might as well be a 3 page analysis. More stuff: The unapologetic confident tone of his other posts: This is a 180 from his timid mafia approach. He's not trying to hide or disguise his presence in the thread. Like I said: 100% town. Not lynching. Don't fucking meta by trying to compare simple posts. It's the same dumb shit Rayn did. The funnier thing was I'm 99% sure that Rayn picked the game where I was traitor and Damdred played the game. That is not how you fucking meta. | ||
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On July 14 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote: Ruxxar/skynx/va switch with damdred outlier Damdred is not mafia even though he's stolen my heart. Tricks on him, I never had one in the first place. | ||
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On July 14 2017 06:16 Holyflare wrote: Cool story. I don't buy it. His rsoul read looks fucking suspicious now I think rsoul is town. He's town. I know it in my heart. Plus, if I find Marv we're going to have a 3-some tonight. You're welcome to join. | ||
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On July 13 2017 14:01 geript wrote: People who have not played the game at all: Rels Tumblewood Koshi VayneAuthority Rsoultin Skynx Sicklucker People who have barely played the game at all: Holyflare Eurochampion Damdred People who have played the game too damn much: Rayn Geript Ruxxor 95% sure I'm going to be lynching into the first group. I'm like 95% sure there's 3 scum in the first group btw | ||
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On July 14 2017 06:49 Holyflare wrote: Honestly I can see townies do everything you've listed though. I can too too, I just find it much less likely to happen considering how consistently bad he's been. | ||
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On July 14 2017 07:57 ruXxar wrote: Maybe it's just my limited experience with VA, but maybe he just doesn't know how to interact in a conversation with people? I know it sounds fucking stupid, but maybe he's just having an awkward time trying to fit in. LOL No | ||
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On July 13 2017 23:05 ruXxar wrote: I agree that is interesting. But I think skynx is misguided. I'm pretty confident Rayn is town. On July 14 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote: TW is right, I also like your tone skynx. You have an analytical, critical yet patient and non-derogatory demeanor about you. I enjoy reading your posts and talking to you. On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote: 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. What in the actual fuck Rux? Is he misguided? Is he analytical? Is he based on half truths? Like WTF | ||
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Analytical is like making sure you did do something dumb like dividing by 0. DNU | ||
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On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote: well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this So where and why did Rux attack Skynx's case? | ||
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On July 14 2017 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: wowwww that skynx wagon  i didn't even realize that but it makes perfect sense. I'll go ahead and take credit for it now. | ||
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On July 14 2017 17:45 Holyflare wrote: Maybe :D It might just be fucking boring rels/va someone tbh. It kinda feels like an inactive scum team, but TBH if it isnt, then i don't know who scum is. | ||
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On July 14 2017 18:23 Holyflare wrote: I did talk to you? Shaka, when the walls fell | ||
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On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote: Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. That's a big false dichotomy there. | ||
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Idk about Rux. He's been super active. But skynx and I could both be Town. | ||
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Are you surprised? Do you think you could be not Town? | ||
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This is like a fucking terrible response | ||
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I've already answered this | ||
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On July 15 2017 02:41 Skynx wrote: No one is questioning is it tvs or not. Why would he bring both of the alignments together? But that point is true aswell, what did i so townish geript? I said it before when HF commented on the case. I can just be wrong. I can see Town doing what you did. I have before. I just think it's pretty low probability. | ||
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Still not reading. Like you should know my filter | ||
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On July 15 2017 02:47 Skynx wrote: Have i been less consistently bad? Now you call my responsw terrible? Like my response was playful and funny. Do I expect you to respond like "Of course I could be scum" and your just all super serious with the response. It's obviously a dumb question. | ||
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On July 15 2017 02:58 Skynx wrote: I'm sorry, your case was just bad, it didn't sucked balls at all. Now quote me where my consistency changed. My case on you wasn't about inconsistency at all. You were making a case about Rayn inconsistently applying logic to two different people; which btw happens all the fucking time. It was about you "having read the thread" but having missed major things. Being active and posting a "I'm doing something" case. | ||
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On July 15 2017 03:05 ruXxar wrote: I want to lynch geript for being a liar. That's a pretty good reason no? Good luck with that. Want to tell everyone to vote for either me or you today? | ||
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On July 15 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote: actually i think i just wrote it Welcome to the dumbass pile. Next time, try reading in context. | ||
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On July 15 2017 03:59 Holyflare wrote: You mean I had real life and went out? Yeah, that happens. Geript is probably mafia because now he's just sheeping what myself and rayn said whereas before he was all happy with it being a mafia case. geript tell me in depth what has changed your mind please My mind hasn't changed. I'm still voting for the dude. I still think he could be Town. | ||
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On July 15 2017 04:02 Holyflare wrote: Did you forget how to play mafia in your absence? Maybe? Idk it's been a while. | ||
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OMG, SQUIRREL | ||
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We can move up your planned lynch from D2 to D1 | ||
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On July 15 2017 04:32 VayneAuthority wrote: he did the same thing last game and he was town so I think he just lies regardless I'll sheep this read. | ||
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On July 15 2017 04:45 Tumblewood wrote: skynx explicitly says at the top of his post that he has not read everything, then you make the claim about the same post that he claims to have been reading when he has not. but that can't be true because he has already claimed to not have read it. i don't think it matters that it's in different sections of the post, it's not like he's saying he took a break mid-post to read some more so hurr durr i'm an idiot but after double checking the context is fine Perhaps, you should read the parts that I show that Skynx isn't reading posts prior to the posts he comments on. Which is exactly the thing point 4 is talking about. | ||
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On July 15 2017 04:54 Koshi wrote: Did some1 tell me why rsoultin isnt mafia? Because Skynx is 6.785% more mafia | ||
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Now you're just turning him on. You know how he loves that SPH. | ||
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So twice he completely misses out on arguments made? So he doesn't filter his target? So he drops the read and omgus's hard? God I wish slam were in this game | ||
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Yes, thank god he finally scumreads 1/2 of the masons hardcore. Praise the lawd hallelujah | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i am sorry but which one of ruxxar and geript is town?? I'll give you a hint, the other half of the mason pair is Town. | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you two are claiminh masons i am 100% killing one of you D2. You know that's fucking dumb | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote: masons in a 13 player game with 3 scum? uh huh I didn't do the setup. I think it's fucking dumb. | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:08 Rels wrote: Why am I a good policy lynch ? It's often that I don't play on any day and you should know it. Fixed that for you | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:08 rsoultin wrote: lol >< if this were true it would make this game a good deal easier. don't break my heart Oh baby, I didn't know you had room in your heart for another. | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:12 Rels wrote: last game I've played with you I didn't play D1, fired up on D2 and lead lynches on 3 scums, then got you lynched. You scumread me all game. And you've gone MIA for more games than I can count for more than just D1. What of it? | ||
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So am I Town Rayn? | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:33 Holyflare wrote: you realise if you are masons then they have a mafia vig and you're retarded? A mafia vig with more than a 1-shot is bad design. TBH, I really doubt there are any other blues in this game. It's likely just ino child x2 vs and 3 mafia. I think that's what lex would recommend. | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know i just want him to say it so i can rub it in geripts face and lynch him. But not today. Only if you get lynched D3 when I flip mason. I won't even fucking care what you flip. | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:43 rsoultin wrote: but i really should have/should have had more votes then >< i won't pretend part of it is just i want him to be town right now cause he's one of the few not being an ass, but why wouldn't scum pile on me if va were scum? And the wifom begins | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:50 emperorchampion wrote: Ok cool, two names to scratch off my list Cool. Want to vote with confirmed Town? | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:50 sicklucker wrote: I dont believe you. the way you town read him seemed authentic and I had the same read Lol, I said the how good of a read it was too. | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:51 sicklucker wrote: I mean I dont think it makes you mafia or anything.... I mean ya mafia there masons nk them... Well we're either masons or mafia. | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx is town. Are you Masonic with him? | ||
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A fair comment. But it's VA | ||
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On July 15 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote: Help me understand why sl vote looks bad and not koshi or rels Usually if that lynch was lead by Town which is my current impression there's almost always a scum in the 2-4 slots; I think HF is Town. His and Rayn reaction to the claim seem super off so I'm a little waffley. | ||
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On July 15 2017 06:36 emperorchampion wrote: Whys that? Like they can't both be that bad right? But I'm getting a little worried if we have enough mislynches to figure it out That's highly doubtful. Like more 1ml is Lylo I think. That was kinda why I wanted to bait Rayn into voting with me. | ||
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On July 15 2017 07:03 Holyflare wrote: Why did geript and damred claim btw? Because it's too fucking funny to have you two calling us scum. Plus, I think you're both Town and need to get your heads out of your asses. | ||
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On July 15 2017 07:08 sicklucker wrote: but but but I thought you were both town =[ useless information herreeeeee. ugggghh fuck this game You've posted so helpfully all game. | ||
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On July 13 2017 22:56 VayneAuthority wrote: Also Skynx has started this game wildly different, he was really passive last game day 1 mostly being receptive to conversation and putting out comments. This game he went immediately full attack mode and super aggressive. That is interesting. This was one post of Vaynes that I kinda liked but couldn't do anything with btw. | ||
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So if we choose to lynch you? Like that's an obviously bad deal Damdred. | ||
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On July 16 2017 06:24 sicklucker wrote: ya its a close setup. A random miller appearing almost 100% makes there a cop. There little reason for a host to put in a random miller in a closed setup. Gives alot of validation to the claim Not really. I'm pretty sure I've made setups with millers without cops. I'm pretty sad he came out this early. Makes the day boring | ||
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On July 16 2017 06:36 Holyflare wrote: They could still be masons but thsy didn't die idk Yeah, idk what scum is doing. | ||
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On July 16 2017 06:31 ruXxar wrote: Happy birthday geript Ty. I may just go celebrate my TL bday. | ||
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On July 16 2017 07:32 Holyflare wrote: After red check It's pretty hard to believe too. But I've done some stupid shit as town before. I almost think he's more likely to be town because he's so fucking insane. | ||
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On July 16 2017 07:51 Holyflare wrote: Ec/ruxxar/rels/koshi 4 man mafia team That's basically where Damdred is... which makes me feel bad about my reads | ||
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On July 16 2017 08:34 ruXxar wrote: I'm obviously doing something wrong when I'm town but still on top of everyone's scum list There's a cop claim with a red check and you're voting for someone else. Like it's not below HF to fake claim here, but what you're doing literally makes 0 sense. | ||
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Your filter is shit because you haven't stopped to flush the turds. | ||
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On July 16 2017 14:40 emperorchampion wrote: geript please give your own reads. Also wtf is damdred on, he should be my number 1 fan. Like tbh, I'm not entirely sure where I stand right now. Part of it is because I've been lazy and watching league to some extent. I think Rux/HF are Town. I'm less sure of Rsoul/Vivax being mod confirmed town; I think her play does make her more likely to be town. I don't know where I stand on Skynx right now honestly. I think there's reasonable reasons on both sides. I think I lean closer to like SL/Koshi being the other two scum atm, but I'm not really bullish. TBH, I haven't seen a reason to think anyone else is town and am not currently bothering to look. I'm also kinda mad at Rayn. He never fucking listens to me and his close to EON comment about having geript x2 instead of geript + Damdred wasn't really nice at all. I think I just need to accept that Ryan's always going to fucking ignore what I say no matter how good it is. Even when I fucking read his and HF's alignment right and make the correct play to give him information so he can fucking correct his reads. | ||
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On July 16 2017 15:39 emperorchampion wrote: For you is rux just too crazy to be scum? That's the thing that I remember most about your read. For skynx, I'm at the point where making cases on 3 town so far is pretty meh but it doesn't make him scum. There's also the things earlier with the fake rage, his response when called out was also pretty meh. I feel pretty mixed on this also. That's part of it. It's also based on a few things I don't feel 100% confident in. Like Vayne saying Rux was this ADD in his last game as Town. Like seeing his scum games seeming slightly more organized/clear. Note there are many issues I have with that meta read. Part of it is that there wasn't any serious attempt to setup a lynch on him; like if he's scum then I'd expect both other scum at least position themselves to reasonably bus him. But like the closes thing I remember was comments in N1 (from Skynx iirc). Skynx-Rux scumteam is far from impossible, but my gut says that's not a reasonable scum team because of how late Skynx would be distancing/counter bussing. I just think the bottom line is that it's more reasonable for Rux to be Town. It's just the simpler explanation. | ||
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On July 16 2017 15:42 emperorchampion wrote: Also is there anything about sl that sticks out to you as scum? He's SL. I've always read him wrong. Like I hard defended him in a PM game on D1 because of a late night call where he felt like town. That btw put me in shitty position then with Rayn and Damdred iirc. He's just forgettable to me, which makes me think he's scum because he can be otherwise as Town. | ||
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On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote: Why do I claim cop here rels? Clearly because you're scum with me and Damdred and needed to make sure that the sheep wouldn't lynch us. Thank god for that "red check" of yours or we'd totally lose this game. | ||
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Then you're being stupid. Like, I don't actually think I'd auto-lynch HF even if Rels wasn't scum/miller. re: The first 4 are talking strategy about when to claim. Next 4 are me covering reads (rsoul, Rayn, Rux). Damdred comments on those and adds some. Then for 5 posts I comment on Rayn's Rux read, his "he (geript) wants HF to be town" bs, Rux, then Damdred's read on me. It's basically just like that a rehash on that sort of trend with me giving reads/thoughts for four/five posts before damdred making a comment; with one exceptions on Thursday night where I have like long set of reads, then like a couple of posts asking him where he is, then another read. He made a really interesting post in QT which I'm not sure I agree with but I think it was good and don't remember him putting it in the thread: EOD thoughs: 1. The wagons weren't as close as they looked. 2. Most the votes on Skynx were town; and unless you expect both TW and Rux to be town, (which is unlikely), then that makes Skynx more likely to be town 3. Rux looks fucking terrible 4. He thinks 2 scum on main wagon and 1 on ours | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:10 Holyflare wrote: and that's your sole reason for scum reading me? that I have a red check day 2? You don't have a reason at all that I would have a red check on you if I was mafia? What's my motive? Rels is doing nothing but bitching. Why bother interacting? | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:16 Holyflare wrote: every game someone has fake cop claimed they have died so no I'm not stupid I've fake claimed a track to get the guy lynch and died in the night because of it. Granted scum killed me but damn it was fucking fantastic play. | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote: Ok, whatever, I'm rescinding my claim. I don't want to waste any more time doing it and I want to further the discussion today so we can actually lynch ruxxar or koshi. Everything ruxxar has done this game is absolutely FULL of TMI. Not only with VA but with this claim too. I think rels could maybe actually be town purely for his appeal to me about fake claiming on this page and it's stupid but I'm gonna roll with it. I can't be bothered to work out how many mislynches there are till end game if rels flipped town but if it's one all of ruxxar's posts outline setting me up for the mislynch the next day when it's an obvious unspoken thing. Really... seriously... fuck you HF. | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:26 Holyflare wrote: I'd rather not throw the game in the event he is town and I've ended the claim with at least 30 hours to go so we can actually talk some more. I thought it was like 5 hours... | ||
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On July 16 2017 09:47 geript wrote: The best advice I can give you is to stop hitting the post button. Hit preview. Read what you've written. Organize your thoughts and consider how the post fits in your overall view of things. Go back and read your filter to see if you've forgotten any important points you've made or someone else has made that you liked. Re-evaluate your post in that regard. Then if your post still makes sense, then hit the post button. Right now, your filter is basically mental diarrhea. Your filter is shit because you haven't stopped to flush the turds. Man this was such a good post this game. | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:49 Holyflare wrote: Cool just remain on the sidelines then my friend and watch the magic happen. Why were my shenanigans scummy? I just wanted rels under pressure to see what happened. Fwiw, I don't think I would've lynched you if you stuck with the claim. Idk, but I would've thought about it a bit more. | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:56 Rels wrote: this is a bad attitude as it allows scum to get away with fake claim in future games. There's a difference when you already feel comfortable in your read | ||
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So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so. | ||
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On July 17 2017 04:01 Rels wrote: I've given up on geript. If he didn't townread me in my towniest game ever he's not gonna townread me right now Can't imagine why I wouldn't townread you this game... you've do so much. | ||
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On July 17 2017 00:26 Rels wrote: SL IDK at all. ruxxar's rest of filter was super natural, I thought I had something with the way he was treating EC weirdly then all of sudden he townreads him. I think he even lock townread him. I was thinking I had something linkling ruxxar and EC together but the lock townread doesn't make sense in that case. I think he's town Like this is probably your best post and it's fucking thin | ||
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I actually don't hate Rels post on EC. I went and looked at his recent games (resistance [scum], 72hr and another mini). In all his games he quotes a decent amount. But in his town games, things seem to stick out to him a bit more and he seems a bit more idk paranoid. Like he'll flag posts and shit. Length wise, there doesn't seem to be a major difference between alignments that I noticed (either in post length or volume). Tone wise; he seems a bit more self-assured as mafia. It's not a read I'm wholly confident in, but it actually feels like a good place to bury a vote. His response to the claim was pretty fucking off too. Like everyone seems to take a side on it and he doesn't even seem to notice it. Like it's something irrelevant which (as far as masons go) I think is more consistent with being mafia. The big thing though is that he doesn't really seem to have any "eh that seems sketchy" type posts; there's nothing that catches his eye. Rather there's only things he seems to comment on this game. That's the big carry away for me. SL seems boring. I don't hate killing him either. I can't find a single post of his that gets me hard. Which in looking at Rels filter; Rels at least as a few that make me stop and think. Right now I'm going to ignore Skynx; partly because I think I want him to be scum and am not sure I can be reasonably unbiased. Also in part because I think EC is a decent shot for scum and EC didn't hate a Skynx lynch but ended up on the VA wagon. EC always seems to want to throw scum on Skynx, but always seems to find a way to push someone else to the top for relatively weak reasons. Especially + Show Spoiler [This Post] + On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below . I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him. In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad. @skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town? I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline. I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him. For now gonna park my vote on va. I'll look at Koshi and TW in the morning. | ||
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Like when I claimed mason, Rayn lost his shit. EC is there posting on relatively recent shit and just ignoring commenting on it. Posts this: On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia. Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript Like you either think I'm scum and fake claiming or I'm blue. There's literally no in between ground. I'm obviously claiming confirmed Town mason with Damdred and he's obvious explaining sitting on his vote. When I ping him on it: He's obviously aware of the claim. On July 15 2017 05:50 emperorchampion wrote: Ok cool, two names to scratch off my list Then fully accepts it. Like if you think Damdred and I are good people to look into, then flat out accept the claim it's pretty odd. On top of it, he's had Skynx in his lynch list throughout. If I have 2 confirmed Town pushing a lynch on a guy I find scummy, I'm pretty likely to sheep their vote. It's weird to need much more to push off from one mediocre lynch to another. On July 15 2017 05:56 emperorchampion wrote: im getting a bit of cold feet on va, but I dunno about moving off It's weird to be getting cold feet about a lynch, be okay with the opposite wagon led by confirmed Town and not jump ship. It's just a whole mess of unusual all around. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote: So you're saying koshi has contributed solid analysis that has driven the game forward and been productive at calling out people? Or you just like barking out and not acknowledging that he's pushed absolutely nobody he's called out? I'm telling you to look at and evaluate what I wrote on EC. I haven't reread Koshi yet. If he's bussing EC; cool, I don't care which order I lynch them in. I do care about you getting in a pointless dick comparing contest with Koshi and shitting up the thread so I can't get a good lynch off. If you guys are dumb enough to lynch me or Damdred at Lylo, I at least want to flip someone who I think has a good chance for being scum. It's my fucking head on the chopping block (not Damdred's) in a game where I want to remind Rayn how stupid he is for not fucking listening to me. And I need your help because I'm pretty sure you're Town and I know you're a better player than I am. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:28 Holyflare wrote: Summary of ruxxar this game: 100% koshi is mafia. VA is definitely town bs tmi. Makes up scum reads on me before even looking into it and then says he was wrong but still scum reads me somehow. Disbelieved red check INSTANTLY voting off wagon on koshi. Then starts nonsense about rels flipping green and definitely lynching me. Then starts associating my play to defending koshi before rels has flipped/I've rescinded. All of the cop stuff is setting up for a mislynch the next cycle. Koshi is bussing tw/i call out koshi with ruxxar/he votes me over his early game 100% koshi even though he says I'm with koshi and he's more sure on that Mafia plz. Sure there's a bunch I've forgotten about. Look I get why you think Rux is scum. I do. Both VA and Rels iirc made comments that he did this same dumb shit last game as Town. I can see him being the dog from Up chasing every little noice and sound... enamored by every little new thing. I think he can be Town. I mean, if you were scum with him, how early would you start bussing that shit just to make sure he didn't spill the whole fucking beans? Because I would've hard bussed his ass on D1 and taken half the credit and NKd you. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:30 Holyflare wrote: Nobody has said that? I don't think you're lying and I've listened to everything you've posted. Koshi is the bigger threat so read what I've been writing because you've dismissed it as pointless dick waving when it's not. Then form your case in a coherent way I can understand it so I don't get so enamored with your big sexy cock that I have to go jerk off and think about marv. | ||
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# of Skynx Positive Neutral (#720, #907) Negative: (#582, #910, #1028, #1215) # of VA Positive Neutral (#582, #1215, #1246) Negative (#720, #907, #1020) Like you talk about Skynx way fucking more than you talk about VA. The most you ever really say about VA is you didn't mind his opener. Everything else is basically, "He hasn't done anything I can defend" which is an easy cop out answer. My question is if you accepted Damdred and Myself as town, and we're both pushing a lynch on someone you talk reasonably negatively about (moreso than your current lynch vote). Why not join the chain of justice? If you were waiting for Damdred to confirm our loving masonic relationship, why? Either I'm 100% scum trying to get a partner to back my claim (who 100% will) or I'm 100% town and my partner will back my claim (who 100% will)? In what world does the person I claim to be masoned with end up not backing my claim? Literally no one in the thread questioned that I was in a QT with Damdred, but many questioned whether it was Scum QT. Skynx was legit throwing his vote away on a train that had 0 chance of ever happening (which is like super bad [shame shame Tina]), he's on your list of people to look at and "have meant to look at" repeatedly. Yet you don't end up filtering him. You don't end up trying to pool with confirmed town votes. You don't say to yourself, "Hey, I'm pretty iffy on both these guys; but I know that at least the push on Skynx is 100% led by an honest opinion I can trust." You don't do a lot of things that make basic fucking mafia sense. | ||
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On July 13 2017 17:04 Koshi wrote: There is a chance I don't understand women. Or that they are all mafia. It is funnier with better english. Already not a fan because I love baiting town to get them into dumb shitty arguments with each other as scum. On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote: Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI. Damdred is town. FWIW, I know you and Rayn hated Damdred's read, but I thought it was actually pretty on point and didn't mind this. That said, I think Damdred was pretty obviously town too so no real townie points for this. On July 13 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote: wow I even pressed reply before I realized. My last post will be to point out rsoultin hasn't done anything yet and her read on Damdred is bullshit. She takes Damdred his worst read and calls him town for it... The post he's referring to is here. In going back it's a pretty slick read on Damdred's part IMO. One that makes me want to lynch Ruxxar even less. This is the type of sly read that in my experience good players usually pick up on from other players and incorporate. It's actually really solid and not one I'd expect Koshi to downgrade. On July 14 2017 22:36 Koshi wrote: Why is rsoultin not mafia? Only read the votes and not the thread yet. Currently busy but hoping I can read it after work as I should be home earlier today. Depends on how long this takes but we are almost done. I read the thread this morning and she just dropped a bad listpost filled with emo blackmail. Not a single strong read based with evidence and a lol read on va. So bad. Damdred liked Tina's list post. I wasn't as fond of it. So I won't detract marks from Koshi for that. That said... On July 14 2017 05:10 rsoultin wrote: koshi. <- this dude has done nada all day but call me scum for bullshit. like, 'baseless' reads? there may not be a ton behind them but tone, but that's how it always is with me day 1 lol >< and he has no excuse not to know this. no way that's his only read as town. even when he's trying to keep his filter down (which he's done before, btw) he can't seem to help himself, like a fire burning in his belly I will detract for this. Because it's damn on point of Koshi's filter. On July 14 2017 22:53 Koshi wrote: My meta read on VA is not the same as rayns btw. For me VA is mafia when he builds up cred and then uses that build up cred to push mafia agenda. rayn scumreads VA already while he is building up the cred. Which imo is way inferior. Problem this game is that VA went for the "I entered with scummeta on purpose" defense which is bullshit as VA doesnt play anti town on purpose. He might not care to boost his own activity to get read easily. But never anti town on purpose. And as I said. Rayn was looking decent enough town already back then so va entering to trick rayn makes no sense. But if he did he should have defended against rayns attack with "good you are town" and not "lol mafia meta on purpose" So VA is pretty much lock scum. But why is rsoultin town? This is the second time he's said it's VA's scum meta saying that VA doesn't play anti-town as town; which is complete bullshit. If VA doesn't gives fucks, he does whatever the fuck he wants as any alignment. Kinda like PalmEr. That said, this is basically how I tend to describe meta when I'm scum. I use pretty broad generalities. Even worse, VA has built up 0 town cred to push scum agenda; so I don't see how he even fits this game. On July 17 2017 01:35 Koshi wrote: Page 75. Don't think Ruxx is mafia. Don't think EC is mafia. Don't think HF is mafia. Don't think rsoultin is mafia now lol. Don't know about SL Really don't think mafia geript and Damdred just go claim masons. Dumbest thing ever... So there is max 1 mafia and 1 retard. Brings me to TW/Skynx and Rels. I think that is all. 17 more pages. On July 17 2017 01:40 Koshi wrote: Going to reread Skynx first. I like where he is here. I think this was one of the points HF brought up. For liking where Skynx is, they only share 1 scumread. If you count nulls I guess you get to add in sharing SL and Rels reads, but being so vastly different on TW and EC is a quite odd. On July 17 2017 01:45 Koshi wrote: Damn a legit sl read. Sick stuff. Going have to reread EC as well. I don't see how this is a slick read. Sure EC seems to have forgotten his read. But I've also found that over time if it isn't a really sticky read, it's easy to forget where you had someone on the nullish side of town. Granted I'm presuming they're referring to thiswhich seems a bit more than town-null. On July 17 2017 01:46 Koshi wrote: "I don't know what to write behind Koshi his name to call him mafia so I am going to call Ruxx both lock town and mafia in 1 sentence. But this is just plain lazy. On July 17 2017 02:20 Koshi wrote: This is a bad post because he doesn't scumread Skynx. See↓ + Show Spoiler + On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote: cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" ↑More likely mafia!TW making up a story then town!TW actually believing that. Easy vote. Random question "looking dumb.". If anybody is interested. I think in Ver his guide it stands that if you open with this post you are more likely mafia. One mafia down. ##Vote TW Going to read Skynx next but he is more likely town now. This is a slanting things pretty heavily. TW seems to have made a big hoopla over VA's sick play (which IMO was neither sick nor a play) and called him town for it. It's not unreasonable to vote for someone who you think is less towny than the other guy. 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On July 18 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote: side with the mafia people on koshi Yeah, there's like probably two mafia on Koshi right now. That's not a super hot proposition. | ||
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To be fair, scum are more likely to bus you | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote: Idk I still feel like town koshi would go a bit more for tw in this context and not just lamely hit ec with a vote. His filter is super unimpressive and lazy at best. I still can't believe he didn't like the Tina's read on you for your read on Rux. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:28 Holyflare wrote: yes and one of those innocent childs are sheeping a read that is wrong and the other 2 basically ignore the thread but come back every so often to write another thing about ec Right because the 2 hours I spen readin your post, reading his filter, finding the comments in context were totally continuing my EC read. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:36 Damdred wrote: I sort of think koshi is reaction to us moving to tw potentially is towny. Unless he and ec are both scum which is sir of what bothers me atm. I don't really think both he and EC are scum. It's possible. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:37 Holyflare wrote: ruxxar is the biggest mafia asset thirdeded | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:38 geript wrote: I don't really think both he and EC are scum. It's possible. Like if both are town, then scum team is just inactive? | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote: Koshi reaction does seem more town to me. Ec read list left some to be desired about though. I don't like tw though I don't hate TW lynch. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote: LETS KILL RUXXARRRRR 0.o I'd rather kill you. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:55 Tumblewood wrote: i seriously don't know what you want me to do. you just lynch me every fucking game for stupid shit Don't do stupid shit? *shrug* | ||
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On July 18 2017 06:33 Koshi wrote: my gf got "angry" and told me to turn off the screen when I literally started babbling without sense trying to grasp the Ruxxar lynch. And this happened before he got flipped. Lynched for TMI. gj bois. Too lazy to go back and look right now, but didn't Koshi basically use this argument against him earlier? | ||
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On July 26 2017 20:31 Holyflare wrote: It's all right, it was clearly that time of month. + Show Spoiler + July 14th 2017 Not funny. | ||
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On July 26 2017 22:24 Holyflare wrote: But nobody in this game said anything like this in the slightest. Only Ruxxar's comment alluded that rsoultin was acting a way because of something female. Which is why the whole ruse looked farcical to me. I actually disagree with you. I don't remember the exact offending statements, but I know I had a read during the game that I thought rsoultin might be scum because she wasn't offended enough. Maybe my sensitivity is set a little higher because I'm a not-straight guy who lives in the bible belt, but I don't think so. To give an example, one of my friends I can't make "Your Mom" jokes with because his mom died of cancer two days before I was supposed to go visit her. We've been friends since I was like 6 or 7; and our circle of friends were all very close with his family (even though we all still joke that she was a bit crazy and yelled at us to go to bed instead of playing video games). It's just an issue that even 5 years after the fact is a very sore spot. I get very heated when people I barely know make homophobic comments or gay jokes; to the point that when a patient made a homophobic slur against me, the staff I was working with didn't allow me to have a patient to prevent any sort of problems. If I were a mod, I hope I would've stopped the shit that went on in this game earlier. I don't think there's a clear delineation of where I can point to and say, "This is over the line." Because it's ok to call people bad; there's also a point where calling someone bad repeatedly is over the line. I don't think everyone's line is going to be in the same place; lord know's palmar's isnt. But I think that when it comes to the historically oppressed (women, transgender, gay, non-white, etc.) we should err on the side of caution so everyone is capable of having fun. | ||
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On July 26 2017 22:59 Holyflare wrote:This game she was overboard buddy posting all squiggles and hearts. Adding femine as a descriptor for lots of hearts and squiggles I guess is inherently sexist due to being gendered but it in no way implies she is doing these things because she is female. Quite the contrary, I call her mafia for the buddy hearts. This I think is a fine observation; I think it hits on whatever it was that I couldn't pick up on why I didn't like her early on. But it's not how it came across in game imo. To me, it came across as more "she's acting like more of a girl now;" which I think is why I didn't really follow up on or think about those comments seriously. | ||
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On July 26 2017 22:46 Skynx wrote: Isn't there a rule like no sexism, religious, rape or holocaust jokes or something like that? There is. The thing is that the TLMafia boards, because of the nature of the game, have a bit more lax enforcement. Any blatantly homophobic, sexist, over the line jokes, can and should be reported. However, the problem is that many times what would be ok to post here and what would be ok to post on the rest of the forums are entirely different. So because we tell everyone, especially newbies, to not use the report button and instead take it to the mod; some things don't get handled as swiftly as they would elsewhere. And most mods know to let TL mafia police itself unless it's blatantly over the line. In my years of being here, I think I've only used the report button twice and once was Robik. | ||
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On July 26 2017 23:15 Holyflare wrote: And this is where I think all the signals were mixed. I was simply making mafia observations whereas other people read the context differently. I get it. And the problem is I know all of you off of the mafia game but clearly not enough that you know me as a person and what I'm like. I'm all about the inflammatory boundary pushing and trolling to make people laugh for sensitive topics and that doesn't translate well to a forum where you can't hear cadence and tone. No I get it. A bit ago, I made a facebook post about how Wizards of the Coast has a problem and it's best seen in it's recent promo video because all the ladies in the promo video were fangirling. I was trying to make the point that WotC has basically hired people who are just "Yes men" and refuse to challenge stupid/bad ideas and mechanics; that wizards isn't hiring quality staff (regardless of gender). But it turned into a cluster fuck post where most people called me a sexist bigot and didn't listen to the point I was trying to make (or correct their misconception of my stance). | ||
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Like here's the thing Rels. If you start playing and start to look towny on D2, you've helped scum get a more favorable lynch on D1. On D1, I think Rels, SL, Koshi, TW, Tina and maybe EC could've all been solid lynches as Lurker + questionable play. On D2, Rels removed himself from that list; maybe EC did too. IDK, I feel really good and bad about my EC reads this game (which I'm ok with since I haven't seen him before). IMO, the most important thing you can do as town is to remove yourself from the lynch list. If all townies are obviously town, then finding the right person to lynch becomes super easy. Even if they're just reasonably townie, people will find reasons to lynch someone else. | ||
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