[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia III

On July 11 2017 20:33 ruXxar wrote:
Is it a valid strategy to not read your role pm and just pretend you are town?

(Don't shoot me for asking stupid questions pls )

On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote:
Distracting town with off-topic discussion.
I see you are pulling out the tricks early.

On July 13 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

oh this is interesting, where was i scumhunting?

On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:


Wait, wait wait.

Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion.

BUT.

You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target.

I'm getting conflicting messaging here.

On July 13 2017 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am conflicted, are you talking to me?

On July 13 2017 07:22 ruXxar wrote:


My raynometer is based on totally different criterium.

And I don't think HF has a foolproof case.
But he's right that Rayn has a lot of filler posts so far.

On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:




want to vomit blood



trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter

he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again

On July 13 2017 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Can i ask you a counter queastion?
What if i answered i think it warrants a weak town read in the basis of not likely to come from mafia?

On July 13 2017 07:36 ruXxar wrote:


This I could get behind.

On July 13 2017 07:53 ruXxar wrote:
EC, who's your top town and top scum right now.

You're spinning out of control for me.

I need you on solid ground.

On July 13 2017 12:02 Tumblewood wrote:

nope not really

On July 13 2017 11:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

the dude is hard calling me mafia...

On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote:
-bounces-

can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec

also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!-

damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol ><

i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons

On July 13 2017 15:34 rsoultin wrote:


it's a beetlejuice! hi beetlejuice ^^

what's awkward about his interaction with rayn?

On July 13 2017 15:41 rsoultin wrote:


-squints at-

uhhhh i just remember the quintessential joni you keep lynching people for dumb instead of scum arguments?

On July 13 2017 15:43 rsoultin wrote:


ooooh this...but that wasn't what pinged you about them before lol ><

On July 13 2017 15:44 rsoultin wrote:


rayn is joni, this ruxxar/joni thing is like a dance they always dance ^^

also, i owe you an answer i suppose...it's like the most epic reason ever

waaaait for iiiiitttt

wwaaaaaiiittt for iiiiiittt

>>

<<

feels \o/

On July 13 2017 15:47 rsoultin wrote:


actually that may be like the best reason not to lynch joni i've seen so far ^^ why does that 'ping' you?

On July 13 2017 15:52 rsoultin wrote:


-squints at again- sooooo like i thought to myself, rsoul, maybe you were just too damn sleepy when you read the thread, but re-looking at your filter i'm still not sure what you're talking about lol ><

On July 13 2017 15:54 rsoultin wrote:
to be more specific, i see a waffleface on rayn
a why is damdy hard-defending tina's one post of awesome - oops he was saying lynch her for that
and a prod that to me seemed more aimed at joni than damdy?

so what am i missing here?

On July 13 2017 15:57 rsoultin wrote:


1. his ruxxar read is what i was thinking ^^
2. it strokes my ego to think that damdy thinks i'm so awesome i should be interesting while sleeping before the game has even really started lol >< if he's scum then it's not reeeeeaaaal

#2 is totes good enough a reason for a d1 pass. #1 is clearly not it. nope.

On July 13 2017 15:39 emperorchampion wrote:


Even answering the question in the first place, then giving his interpretation, then the "lol my bad" part.

I just got this impression he spent a lot of time / thought for a strange thing.

On July 13 2017 16:07 rsoultin wrote:


^ well, and this

and feels, on trial remember?

On July 13 2017 16:10 rsoultin wrote:


oh lol that didn't even register as a reason to me lol ><

so by 'awkward interaction' you actually meant even answering the question in the first place? why is that more 'scummy' than joni asking the question in the first place?

On July 13 2017 16:23 rsoultin wrote:


noooot an aaaaannnswer

and you scumreading damdy when making points that should scumread joni is not what i'd call 'just feels' -snorts-

On July 14 2017 03:42 ruXxar wrote:


This guy is 100% town.

Never lynching.

On July 14 2017 03:46 ruXxar wrote:


If I wanted to call you scum I would.

Right now I'm occupied with koshI.

On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:

you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes

On July 14 2017 04:35 sicklucker wrote:


man me and ruxxar came to every same conclusion last game right or wrong. Now everyone I think is mafia he thinks is town and vice versa. kill with fire

On July 14 2017 04:43 sicklucker wrote:
also if im a vig i am shooting va ! ;p

On July 14 2017 00:00 Koshi wrote:

Yep yep. Been 4 months now or something. Pretty good.

On July 14 2017 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw EC what metal music are you listening to?
ruxxar can chime in here too because he is from like the third best of metal country in the world.

On July 14 2017 05:20 ruXxar wrote:


So because I disagree with a guy on one thing I can't call him town?

On July 14 2017 05:25 ruXxar wrote:


As opposed to last game where he was annoying as all hell but actually was town...

On July 14 2017 05:50 ruXxar wrote:


100% scum until he shows me any reason to think otherwise.

On July 14 2017 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
First three are town reads

On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.

Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.

Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.


Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.

I don't think I want to lynch va today.

Rels is a good policy lynch though.

And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm.

On July 15 2017 02:02 ruXxar wrote:


Sick play?
I must've missed it.

On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:


Why rels?

On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:


So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans?

On July 15 2017 02:21 geript wrote:

That's a big false dichotomy there.

On July 15 2017 02:23 ruXxar wrote:


"Thinking about that now"

You mean after I mentioned it?..

On July 15 2017 02:33 Skynx wrote:

??????

On July 15 2017 04:19 Damdred wrote:


Ride and die with my geript.

On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.

Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.

Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.


Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.

I don't think I want to lynch va today.

Rels is a good policy lynch though.

And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm.

On July 15 2017 04:48 Damdred wrote:


How is my read progression out of no where when I didn't have a previously stated opinion?

And what have I said I'd do and not done?

On July 15 2017 04:57 emperorchampion wrote:


Skynx ruxxar me all in thread and you don't care at all.

This game is hard there's a lot to do, why haven't you tried to do any of it?


OK, with regards to the other thing


My filter went from being meh, to too clean---and this makes me scum for you how? Please explain this.


Like your filter past page 2.5 fell off a cliff...

On July 15 2017 05:23 Rels wrote:

so you have OGI on VA. And that's why you mentionned VA in your first post, even though he didn't post yet ?

On July 15 2017 05:25 Rels wrote:
ok that's explained later

On July 15 2017 05:43 geript wrote:
Really surprised EC hasn't commented on the claim.

On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

On July 15 2017 06:13 Damdred wrote:


What would that of accomplished? You were on the off wagon?

On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx

On July 15 2017 06:23 geript wrote:
The worst looking votes on face value are EC/SL

On July 15 2017 06:29 geript wrote:

Usually if that lynch was lead by Town which is my current impression there's almost always a scum in the 2-4 slots; I think HF is Town. His and Rayn reaction to the claim seem super off so I'm a little waffley.

On July 15 2017 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is another blue and that doesnt make any dense if geript/ damdred are masons.

On July 15 2017 06:43 geript wrote:

That's highly doubtful. Like more 1ml is Lylo I think. That was kinda why I wanted to bait Rayn into voting with me.

On July 15 2017 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
So can we lynch ruxxar now that va flipped town and he defended him forever based on nonsense?

On July 15 2017 07:00 Tumblewood wrote:
ruxxar is 100% town and i stand by that

On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote:
Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.

Damdred is town.


People who pretend to have a lot of reads but are not sharing them with the thread:
rsoultin



PS to rayn: he is talking about ruxxar

On July 15 2017 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
At beer and cider festival today so rip

On July 15 2017 21:44 ruXxar wrote:
Emperor are you a female?

On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.

On July 15 2017 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Before the night ends i really want to know if Damdred's role pm says he is townfirmed masons with geript or not.

On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

On July 15 2017 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no. people can do all kinds of shit as mafia.
people do not come into the thread and actually put effort into building a post where the content is something they KNOW is bs. there is just no way mafia does that.

On July 15 2017 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:

because i dont think geript is town.

On July 15 2017 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

you realize that me being the target has nothing to do with if he believes in it or not? OMGUS is your enemy in a mafia game. i don't think people wrongfully accusing me in itself make them mafia, and noone should.

On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.

On July 15 2017 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:

the dude is insane. he even believed sicklucker's cop claim last game when he said he has a check N0 (there's never a role that can chack people on N0 in TL Mafia).

But this is probably him just being mafia trying to imitate his insane shit since every single piece of logic tells those two guys are actually masons. If they are lying they just outed 2 people of their mafia team to try to either lynch their scumbuddy Skynx or try to save town!VA to try to lynch town!Skynx, and neither makes zero sense at all.

On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:


Why should I believe it?
I don't see any reason to.

On July 15 2017 23:06 ruXxar wrote:


Your dialogue is free flowing and unfiltered.

You're not guarding your thoughts or being careful in what you say.

I don't know how better to put it, but in my heart I strongly believe you are town.

On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:

They are both mafia.

On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:


I like this question a lot.
Forced me to think real hard.
You get extra town credit for that.

To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive.

On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:


I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play.

Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them.

Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game.

I don't think my ego can handle it.

On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:


Please explain

On July 15 2017 23:46 ruXxar wrote:


So your read changed by the fact that you now think I am more scummy?

On July 16 2017 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I already talked about this, ruxxar did nothing with his super scumread on Koshi.
I don't see why they cant be mafia together.

On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:

Why you voted VA then???


This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this:


Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean.

Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum.
You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA.

Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans?

On July 16 2017 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

noone in this game is ever going to be "helping you lynching koshi" since if he flips mafia you deserve as much credit for it as my shoe does.

On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:

I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.

Did you scumread me or not?

On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.

Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.

On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:


Please do it today, in case you die.


Votes for VA, townreads me.

Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 16 2017 00:35 Skynx wrote:

You're the only one on VA wagon with legitimate beef on me thats why.

On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you cant go into someones filter and say "there is an inconsistency" when there are things that have happened between that definitely change people's thinking (aka VA's alignment here). If those posts you quoted are from before D1 ended then you have a case and a good one.

On July 16 2017 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I dont care what you thought about VA but every single one of those posts Skynx showed looks like you dont even think VA is mafia or at least you think Skynx is more likely mafia, so there is that.

On July 16 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote:


Her read is simply my read. That he waffled on you and didn't do much.

On July 16 2017 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

or you just tried to set up D2 mislynch. who knows, both are equally alike from pure mafia-playbook-gameplay perspective. it doesnt make sense though, that you, like ruxxar, argue -- and try to make it seem like someone is your top lynch when you actually say something very different in your posts.

but i am going to stop trying to convince you that you are mafia, it doesnt really work in any case.

On July 16 2017 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

nothing is 100% but probably yes.

yeah idk about your two read since i never understood that from the beginning, that's my bad. I townread him for some reasons and had "better" reasons to not look back at the people i poe'd early (aka VA).

On July 16 2017 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

or you just tried to set up D2 mislynch. who knows, both are equally alike from pure mafia-playbook-gameplay perspective. it doesnt make sense though, that you, like ruxxar, argue -- and try to make it seem like someone is your top lynch when you actually say something very different in your posts.

but i am going to stop trying to convince you that you are mafia, it doesnt really work in any case.

On July 16 2017 01:03 emperorchampion wrote:


Also, where am I setting up a D2 mislynch on skynx? Plot the progression of this for me.

On July 16 2017 01:58 Skynx wrote:

Point is, voting VA is easy. But if you vote VA, what do you have on the counter wagon and does that make you scummy?

On July 16 2017 03:22 Skynx wrote:

Lets take a case of town!emp thought VA could be town, skynx has been scummy and didn't improve so he should point that out to the game, switch to skynx and lynch him instead.

Ofc that didn't happen, if you swapped on me you knew I'd flip town and you'd have a hard time clearing yourself after the mislynch. You'd have to come up with solid reasons to justify your switch to be safe tomorrow, or you could just stay on VA who has been objectively scummy and your TMI townread on him from earlier would go unnoticed. You pushing me for rest of the day could be many reasons i dunno, setting me up for a D2 lynch could be one of them.

Tbh, the VA townread TMI+ Show Spoiler +is more alarming than anything else to me and your defence on that is "i wrote that in 5 mins on a bus ride" which isn't convincing me.

On July 16 2017 05:27 sicklucker wrote:
Whats that have to do with anything. your denying you forgot your read? No ones lock town in this game

On July 16 2017 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
Damb that ec read is legit.

Forgot you scum read sl
Say you didn't forget
Proven wrong
Theb retroactively defend that read saying you don't remember what he's done and he's scummy

The fact you didn't remember scum reading him and then give reasons ti scum read him is bull shit.

You are confirmed mafia niw.

On July 16 2017 06:04 Holyflare wrote:


You forgot your reaaads

On July 16 2017 06:11 Skynx wrote:
Cop and mason can exist at the same time imo, not ready to unclear damdy and geript altho they have been real bad.

On July 16 2017 06:22 sicklucker wrote:


?

rels + ruxxar or koshi + random person most likely skynx? or maybe both ruxxar and koshi

On July 16 2017 08:21 geript wrote:

That's basically where Damdred is... which makes me feel bad about my reads

On July 16 2017 14:58 Tumblewood wrote:

i don't really have a granular thing i can point to and say "this post is townie because xyz" but over the course of this game i have seen ruxxar as a player highly concerned with solving the game and little else. frankly it seems obvious to me and i have trouble understanding why so many people scumread him

On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:


I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town.

The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post.

After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent.

Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed:

Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe.
But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch.

Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right:



HOWEVER.

When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get:



I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads.

This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game.

This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda.

It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town.