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On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote:
Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.
Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice...
Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play.
Meh I don't really want to lynch tumble right now, but I'm ears on rels.
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Geript: let's get real, where have I been pushing mafia agenda this game? Just tell me so I can get rid of this bs. I hope everyone can collectively agree to stop with scum reading me for not killing skynx. Who seems to be widely town ready by most people in this game. Boggles my mind honestly. If he flips red, OK I'll accept the blame for not killing him, but for now it's just silly.
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On July 17 2017 20:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 20:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 20:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Is it really that odd to accept a mason claim? I don't find it too particularly odd. Everyone else accepted it. Like this here is empirical evidence that it's not that odd. Nobody really accepted it?
Well guess I was the only one then. Good thing I got all that town cred from the mason duo...
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If there's nothing else that will convince you, look at how fucking hard I've had to fight to get town reads this game. I've gotten literally zero town cred from every single thing I've done this game.
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On July 17 2017 20:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 06:11 Skynx wrote:
Cop and mason can exist at the same time imo, not ready to unclear damdy and geript altho they have been real bad. Could be tmi tbh
How though, mafia don't know the setup either.
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Forgot I had this open in another tab:
On July 17 2017 17:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:[quote] Please do it today, in case you die. [quote] Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:
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You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this.
tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend". I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort. I think he thought VA was gonna be lynched regardless and he was preparing the next day, robotically. He don't think he would resist switching to you if the town leaders told him to.
My favourite post of this game so far  So melodramatic hahaha
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Guess I had more than 30 min peace out for now
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On July 17 2017 21:22 geript wrote:
EC's comments:
# of Skynx
Positive
Neutral (#720, #907)
Negative: (#582, #910, #1028, #1215)
# of VA
Positive
Neutral (#582, #1215, #1246)
Negative (#720, #907, #1020)
Like you talk about Skynx way fucking more than you talk about VA. The most you ever really say about VA is you didn't mind his opener. Everything else is basically, "He hasn't done anything I can defend" which is an easy cop out answer.
My question is if you accepted Damdred and Myself as town, and we're both pushing a lynch on someone you talk reasonably negatively about (moreso than your current lynch vote). Why not join the chain of justice?
If you were waiting for Damdred to confirm our loving masonic relationship, why? Either I'm 100% scum trying to get a partner to back my claim (who 100% will) or I'm 100% town and my partner will back my claim (who 100% will)? In what world does the person I claim to be masoned with end up not backing my claim? Literally no one in the thread questioned that I was in a QT with Damdred, but many questioned whether it was Scum QT.
Skynx was legit throwing his vote away on a train that had 0 chance of ever happening (which is like super bad [shame shame Tina]), he's on your list of people to look at and "have meant to look at" repeatedly. Yet you don't end up filtering him. You don't end up trying to pool with confirmed town votes. You don't say to yourself, "Hey, I'm pretty iffy on both these guys; but I know that at least the push on Skynx is 100% led by an honest opinion I can trust." You don't do a lot of things that make basic fucking mafia sense.
This probably won't answer all your points 1 by 1 , but the reason I don't move off of va for skynx even though you ask me to is that I respect my own reasons a lot more than I respect yours. This doesn't have to do with this point, but just to let you know where I'm at, none of your actions since then have given me any reason to trust you over me.
I thought that va had a better chance on flipping than skynx, that's it. You can choose to believe me, or continue to tunnel on this the whole game. I'm not going to comment on this va skynx thing any further. The only reason I do so here I out of respect for you as town.
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On July 17 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels? Another misrepresenting question I wont answer. But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels? Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:
- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels? This brings the questions: Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter? Why do you not want to vote with me on TW?
I need to stop being lazy and really look between you and rels. So if you're willing to help I'll take it.
Right now I am pretty 50/50 between you and rels. Ruxxar is a bit behind that, and tumble out in fourth. Probably because you were both so behind on the game before you started playing, but at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you.
I'll put in some time now to try and sort things out
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On July 17 2017 21:01 emperorchampion wrote:Forgot I had this open in another tab: Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 17:08 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Do you have anything to show from before deadline?
Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
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Why rels?
Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend". I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort. I think he thought VA was gonna be lynched regardless and he was preparing the next day, robotically. He don't think he would resist switching to you if the town leaders told him to. My favourite post of this game so far So melodramatic hahaha
Mm getting back into it. This post is the perfect combination of annoying, scummy and funny. Annoying and scummy because he implies I'm scum for something that I might have potentially done if a town lead maybe potentially told me to do something.
Bad read rels, but funny post.
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On July 18 2017 01:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 01:09 emperorchampion wrote:On July 17 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels? Another misrepresenting question I wont answer. But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels? On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:
- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town On July 16 2017 06:06 emperorchampion wrote:
lol rels is red for reals? On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels? This brings the questions: Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter? Why do you not want to vote with me on TW? I need to stop being lazy and really look between you and rels. So if you're willing to help I'll take it. Right now I am pretty 50/50 between you and rels. Ruxxar is a bit behind that, and tumble out in fourth. Probably because you were both so behind on the game before you started playing, but at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you. I'll put in some time now to try and sort things out So basically you have completely nothing on everybody? Please explain why TW is only 4th on your list. What is townie about his play?
Nah just been stagnant lately since not much time to play. Tumble is partially bias from last night phase since he looked the best going in. Out of you four I think he's most likely to flip town. I read his filter and the tone is pretty towny. Never really felt he got overly defensive over anything.
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On July 18 2017 02:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:
Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it Explain this please
Wow I'm amazed actually it took so long for someone to bring this up.
I'm on mobile so it's a bitch to bring up, this happens somewhere around page 2-3 of your filter. Basically the posts where you point out rsouls interpretation of some post I had made calling out damdy for defending someone based on one post. I made this at like 6am and confused geript with rsoul in my head. Hence the follow up post of whoops he actually thinks rsoul is scum. She actually interpreted correctly what I had written on paper, although not what I meant. For you to interpret what I tried to say, and defend me on this basically was something that I could not really see scum doing.
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If your town this is maybe the best read of the game so I'm happy to share, if you're scum well played
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eh I don't regret phrasing it like that, I think part of it was that at the time there were a few "I have a shitty reason to read hf town /scum ". And I actually had a good reason to read him as town.
Maybe this is the phrophisized fake interaction that was promised!
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Also I think the context of this was like maybe 24 hrs into the game
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Damn you must think my scum game has heavily improved if I can fabricate that read
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I don't really understand what you're trying to get out of this.
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Cool let me know the result
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Rels what set off your tunnel on me?
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On July 18 2017 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Why didn't you share it?
Honestly not 100% sure, I was still getting my footing in the game. I think I was also worried about getting pressured at the time for making a stupid mistake
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