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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 07:56 Conversion wrote: agree to disagree but I would never lynch PB over you ever well obviously i'm not putting myself on the auto list. you are free to insert me anywhere on the list you like, as long as it's at the back | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 08:06 Prison Break wrote: You claimed blue while you was going to get lynched And now you say blue never does that? Aka you're mafia no, you are completely misreading everything i said. read the post i just made that clarifies what i say in this post. i repeat: if you claim [non-cop] blue like HF did because you think you're about to get NKed, it's useless, but if you claim blue because you think you're about to be lynched, like I did, it makes sense. honestly, why would you ever interpret someone's post as them claiming mafia? | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 08:19 Prison Break wrote: He protected TW If HF flips vig, people will think HF got rb'd so TW was lying By saying he didn't fire, TW could still be rb'd So despite HF thinking TW is mafia now, this is extremely townie to do please. he already didn't shoot or claim RB N1. it is really not crazy to think that the same thing would happen again. you are either extremely town-tunneled on him or literally his scum partner | ||
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Tumblewood
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advantages of claiming: - people wouldn't assume he was RB'd and I was lying about that, which is only relevant if people actually assume that AND i'm blue. keep in mind i wouldn't even have to roleblock HF to be lying about being roleblocked disadvantages of claiming: - effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone - if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check - if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us OR if HF is mafia: advantages of claiming: - lynches one, potentially two blues - forces the other blue to out themselves early disadvantages of claiming: - dies earlier than he might have otherwise pick one | ||
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Tumblewood
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if HF is town: advantages of claiming: *crickets* disadvantages of claiming: - effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone - if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check - if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us OR if HF is mafia: advantages of claiming: - lynches one, potentially two blues - forces the other blue to out themselves early disadvantages of claiming: - dies earlier than he might have otherwise pick one | ||
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Tumblewood
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Tumblewood
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if HF is town: advantages of claiming: *crickets* disadvantages of claiming: - effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone <<Never gonna shoot someone if we lose a mislynch>> still a disadvantage to not have the option but whatever - if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check <<Narrows down lynch list because they have 2 checks and would be one of the players I'm not sure about>> presumably the cop is able to steer town away from a lynch they know is wrong, if necessary - if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us <<Your fault for being crap all game and doing nothing.>> not a point, all you did was call me bad if HF is mafia: advantages of claiming: - lynches one, potentially two blues <<True dat>> true dat - forces the other blue to out themselves early <<True dat.>> true dat disadvantages of claiming: - dies earlier than he might have otherwise <<Main reason why i would never do it. I like to carry 100% of my games.>> are you telling me you'd never fakeclaim as scum? i haven't read all of your games but i am 90% sure you've done this as scum before | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 09:05 Holyflare wrote: I don't even know why you're fighting. I am quite happy to be lynched. Lynch me and then lynch tw if that is the case though. He made his bed by choosing to never question ritoky. what do you mean, i made my bed by choosing to never question ritoky? ritoky's actions are indicative of an actual cop reacting to checks and to the game around you. your actions are indicative of scum trying to set up a fakeclaim and mislynch a blue. and i'm not really in a position to attack anyone with 70% confidence, anyway. plus everyone knows you're not actually asking them to lynch you | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 09:00 Holyflare wrote: I wanted a claim war. And here we are, mission successful. forcing a claim war to happen earlier than necessary is never advantageous to town, and if someone's lying the claim war is always going to happen eventually I think pb made an excellent point earlier. You've gone full bs suspicion throwing and no game solving. if i tried to really deliberate back and forth all day instead of figuring out the most likely scum and sticking to it, i would be digging my own grave. so instead i solved the game as well as i could as soon as all the information was out and am now focusing my efforts on killing the 90% scum instead of the 100% doctor.Yoi saved me last night thinking I'm most likely to die but the instant i claimed i was mafia to you. It didn't make sense and it doesn't make sense. Ypu weren't even hesitant towards ritoky's claim despite the fact that there were inconsistencies (that I checked) in his scum reads to who he checked. I'm pretty sure you're mafia. i didn't think you were most likely to die last night -- i thought that was bh, who i was originally going to save -- but i fully expected to be roleblocked again, so i saved the person who i thought was most likely to die in circumstances that would lead scum to not roleblock me. that was you. i don't remember anymore why i thought the respect kill would be more likely to be wacky than the towniest-player kill, but that's what i went through. and then you claim that i instantly scumread you, not hesitating to townread ritoky? this is the first post i made following the claims: On June 09 2017 12:08 Tumblewood wrote: ritoky is the scum 90% of the time i think, looking at the claims. just so much setup on hf's part that it's hard to see him fakeclaiming. BUT i'm guessing that in the world where hf is scum the other two must kind of be scrubs to not notice any sort of blue tell (pretty obvious as soon as he was skeptical of my claim and later when he said something about there only being one blue in the game), which then doesn't line up with ritoky being scum because ritoky is a good player. hmmmmmmmmm not only do you see me scumreading ritoky initially, you might notice that i deliberate instead of attacking anyone. so your claims are provably false. and i remember seeing a post saying that his scumreads lined up, which reinforced my read. can't find it in thread anymore though. maybe it was his crumbs or grack pointing out where ritoky said he only knew vivax wasn't cop, and i'm misremembering that. didn't even see your post pointing out inconsistencies in his reads though | ||
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Tumblewood
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 10:24 Holyflare wrote: Here's the thing. Tw is formulating a post right now and it will contain a quote of something i said last page and more accusations towards me despite me already asking to die. It's gonna be an empty post. He should be more interested in solving the game. nah, i'm just chilling right now. arguing for the last 3 hours has somewhat exhausted me, and i'm going to take a break from yelling at people. i'll probably start to really figure things out again as soon as you flip, because it's not a 100% certainty that you're mafia, and i'm not interested in spending time comparing pb, conv, and tube only to find out, say, that you're town and ritoky's checks are fake, or spend time analyzing btdt and grack only to see you flip scum. regardless of alignment i thank you for not continuing the shitshow i had going on | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 11:07 Holyflare wrote: Hey look another excuse for you to do nothing while everyone puts in work. gimme a break, man if you're in the mood to have an actual eye-to-eye discussion, can you explain some reasons why pb is town, or why tube is scum, or why ritoky might be scum? | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 11:10 Holyflare wrote: There's not a chance in hell you can think I'm mafia this game in comparison to the last. Not a chance. It's jist not possible. It's absolutely night and day difference. I'm unsure about a lot, I'm constantly reevaluating, I'm making and dropping reads like flies and I'm paranoid of a lot of dumb shit. No way you throw any of that away because of some hunch you have that i shoot someome despite it costing us potentially the game of course you're hf so you have to be arrogant all the time, but you're not competing against yourself from last game. i'd be lying if i said i'm totally convinced you're mafia, but i truly think ritoky has the more believable claim. + Show Spoiler [read this only if you are the vigilante] + sorry | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 11:13 Holyflare wrote: Like wtf literally last oage for tube and all game for the others. if you're me, tube's been dope as fuck today. i've looked at all of them and come to a different interpretation than you, so i want to make sure i'm not missing something big about them. ideally not working on an assumption of your alignment | ||
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Tumblewood
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but i will look into ritoky and pb some more. thanks for answering me even though you probably wanna kill me right now | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 11:35 Holyflare wrote: Tumblewood there's one SURE FIRE way to prove you're town here. enlighten me | ||
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