Newbie Student Mafia XXVI - Page 8

On June 10 2017 10:48 Tubesock wrote:


I didn't reply because I simply don't believe your reasoning. I don't see much point in arguing about this with you, you wouldn't make a claim without already knowing all your answers. They will be thought out and reasonable. Of course you're goign to make sense and people will believe your reasons for not shooting. You're brilliant at arguing. My point is that the odds of someone, anyone really, holding their shot is super super low. And considering how prolific of a night kill you are, I just don't see it. I get you are claiming that you would prefer to die without shooting, but my point is that most everyone playing on this site shoots and won't hold. They even just shoot big question marks like ALakaslam, or Chezinu or some other mega lurker. I'm just not buying it.

Tumblewood could be scum sure. It would have been really helpful if he put in noticeable work since his claim. So yeah he looks scummy, but I think mafia!Holyflare has more to gain and this world being more likely.

Ritoky's claim looks good to me. I think it would be way too obvious to just drop all discussion of btdt. So maybe he did to pretect himself I don't know.

On June 04 2017 03:53 ritoky wrote:
the person i think is most mafia right now is probably BTDT. i think his reads are cheap and hollow.

he defends TW for missing a joke "full frontal" (w/e the shit that means); when from my experience lacking a sense of humor is more mafia indicative than town.

he defends grack from vivax because of last game? he doesn't disagree with vivax that what grack is doing isn't more scum indicative, he just says "don't call him mafia cuz he said terrible things last game too". read as mafia trying to pocket/protect weak town a bit.

he prods the new player, which is easy for anyone to do.

he calls out PB for sounding wishy-washy....but that makes no sense to me. he has a read on TW and grack from previous games, but not on PB. in the previous game PB was incredibly definitive and made tons of sense pretty much all game long. in this game PB sounds more unsure and makes less sense. it makes me think PB is more likely town, so why does PB sounding dissimilar to last game make him think PB is the same alignment as last game?

dunno....pretty much don't like anything of what he has posted.

On June 05 2017 04:38 ritoky wrote:


i think he's probably town.

On June 05 2017 04:49 ritoky wrote:
i think hf isn't mafia for a couple reasons:

1) he was phone posting at the wedding. this is shitty reasoning, but i got the sense he was so frustrated with rolling mafia that he would have just afk'd through the wedding had he rolled it again.

2) his reaction to one of tube's posts about conv and pb was pretty much identical to my reaction to it.

3) he is pushing LS in a way that doesn't feel like he is pocketing LS or is in a QT with LS

4) he hasn't talked about me much/given reads on me formally, which is how he tends to act toward me as town on day 1

5) he is defending BH, who i feel hf values as one of the few players on the player list with game-solving potential if he tries. as mafia i think he would be content to let BH just die.

On June 05 2017 05:00 ritoky wrote:
vivax, do you think TW is town?

On June 05 2017 08:58 ritoky wrote:
people are voting fidei cuz?

On June 05 2017 06:25 ritoky wrote:


what the hell am i supposed to think abt PB that i don't? he hasn't done a whole lot -> coin flippy, he sounds different than before -> townie, he has low content per words -> mafia, he promised reads then fucked off -> most players in the game

so he's a coin flip who i said i would consider lynching. what am i missing?

On June 06 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
looking outside the ppl who voted mafia:

i think PB's post about his reaction to the lynch is pretty similar to mine, although him never delivering on his promised reads is meh. he came to the same conclusion i did about the 3 people i think are town because of the lynch and he looks toward the same spot i do for the mafia on the wagon (grack + ls). but when he starts saying things that make tons of sense to me, it's kinda the opposite of why i had him town leaned earlier.

btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card....

conv is certainly not particularly useful at the moment, but i don't get the sense that he is malicious or mafia. i told him "stop doing this and give me reads." and then he immediately produced reads that seemed genuine; so i have a difficult time thinking he's mafia.

then vivax....i guess vivax COULD be mafia? but then i been pretty wrong this game. but doesn't vivax just see the runaway train and bus his partner for the nickle or dime's worth of credit he would get? i would have.

On June 11 2017 00:15 Holyflare wrote:
This is a duper simple weighing up that I'm doing in my head to figure out the claims:

Tw - cased day 1 massive tmi and inconsistencies, didn't have answer to bh meta claimed doc instead (but somehow answered it in tiny paragraph within 10 minutes now?), afkd all game, claimed rb all game, blindly believes ritoky claim over me and shovels as much as he can in my direction with no thought

Ritoky - mediocrely towny all game, scum read ls/grack but checked btdt despite town reading (his reason was that he didn't want to lose to emotion instead of checking scum reads??), pushed some ok things, been active.


They're both shit claims but one of those claims was forced day 1 as survival instead of answering simple questions and the other was to kill tw and has been mediocrely towny all game. So yeh tw looks worse on paper.

On June 11 2017 00:43 Holyflare wrote:
Tubesock makes perfect sense with me as mafia or ritoky as mafia because he's already gone down the bussing route with fidei.

On June 11 2017 00:33 Tumblewood wrote:

if hf is scum it is pb for sure. have you noticed how they turned into the same person now that hf is fighting me?
and i have many actual arguments, in my filter. especially the ine where i detail the pros and cons of hf's claim as both alignments. i think that's page 8 of my filter

On June 11 2017 02:06 Holyflare wrote:


That's not what I meant. I was referring to tw's post that tube can't be mafia with me. I was simply playing devil's advocate that tube has already bussed one partner so why not another?

On June 11 2017 02:05 Holyflare wrote:


Yes, I would agree but then that sentiment should continue THROUGHOUT his gameplay. Why would he therefore check Grack next when he was his biggest scum read? The logic does not follow through.

On June 11 2017 02:53 Conversion wrote:


chill out dood was having some lunch on a nice saturday for once here

also I'm not getting any new information that's making me want to switch my vote

it's going on TW. if anyone thinks I'm wagoning I've been suspicious of TW since N2, so go read my filter if you want

also PB I don't want a free pass as town, but my goal going into D3 was to make myself look as townie as possible, so I will continue to play like I have been and if you still think I'm scum then what can I do

On June 11 2017 07:56 Tumblewood wrote:
and one more thing: why the fuck do i, as mafia, claim so i can stay alive longer (because obviously i can't survive all game off a fakeclaim) and then lynch my teammate the day of the claim? completely defeats the purpose.

On June 03 2017 10:04 Tumblewood wrote:

the fuck is this shit
hard to keep up with this flurry of 10 posts? that were all one-liners?
and you're tryna call someone out for not pushing their rng?
I can't even keep this post short while trying to vocalize everything stupid about it. if this isn't for reactions I wanna lynch you for being this bad

On June 03 2017 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:

which part was the jokr

On June 03 2017 10:23 Tumblewood wrote:

basically meaningless. the reason I don't like how you are trying to discuss bh not keeping his push it whatever is because bh has done effectively nothing and you are trying to discuss the nothing

On June 03 2017 10:41 Tumblewood wrote:

no. the whole point is what bh did was as nothing as the hi post, and you wouldn't discuss that
and rng lynches are bad because you get 0 information from them, except based on who thinks it's a stupid idea, but that's pretty useless too

On June 11 2017 08:20 Tumblewood wrote:

speaking of checking all avenues, why weren't you posting at 5:29 this morning? and why did you fail to consider bh's lower words per post in his most recent scum game than the two town games preceding it?