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On May 19 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote:
SL will see the light he just awoke from his slumber and needs to regain his senses.
He really just needs to understand that HF or Palmar have to die today.
Technically HF and Palmar but one at a time. And he can't achieve that without voting with Grack and LS, and that means what for their alignment?
We don't necessarily need PBs vote.
HF going for Grack and him first should already ring all alarm bells tho. There's no way town HF still believes that Palmar is town at this point.
So in other words you think Holyflare is Unholyflare this game?
+ Show Spoiler +Tha tsi holyflare's scum nickname incase you didn't know.
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On May 19 2017 08:16 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2017 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 19 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote:
SL will see the light he just awoke from his slumber and needs to regain his senses.
He really just needs to understand that HF or Palmar have to die today.
Technically HF and Palmar but one at a time. And he can't achieve that without voting with Grack and LS, and that means what for their alignment?
We don't necessarily need PBs vote.
HF going for Grack and him first should already ring all alarm bells tho. There's no way town HF still believes that Palmar is town at this point. So in other words you think Holyflare is Unholyflare this game? + Show Spoiler +Tha tsi holyflare's scum nickname incase you didn't know. Almost guaranteed given he didn't insta unclaim when the night was over. He forced the real medic, aka me, to claim. I'm not letting him run around with a confirmed town sign on his head and decide the lynch. Grack did it correctly as he dropped the act instantly once he didn't die. Worst that can happen today isn't even that he claims it again, it's that we don't get SL and PB to vote him or Palmar. If HF claims medic again we lynch him and he flips scum.
Fair play on that.
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On May 19 2017 08:19 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2017 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 19 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote:
SL will see the light he just awoke from his slumber and needs to regain his senses.
He really just needs to understand that HF or Palmar have to die today.
Technically HF and Palmar but one at a time. And he can't achieve that without voting with Grack and LS, and that means what for their alignment?
We don't necessarily need PBs vote.
HF going for Grack and him first should already ring all alarm bells tho. There's no way town HF still believes that Palmar is town at this point. So in other words you think Holyflare is Unholyflare this game? + Show Spoiler +Tha tsi holyflare's scum nickname incase you didn't know. ya i set you up for a sick policy lynch day one. like those ever work
Policy lynches never really work at Day 1 in the first place.
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On May 19 2017 08:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2017 08:16 Vivax wrote:On May 19 2017 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 19 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote:
SL will see the light he just awoke from his slumber and needs to regain his senses.
He really just needs to understand that HF or Palmar have to die today.
Technically HF and Palmar but one at a time. And he can't achieve that without voting with Grack and LS, and that means what for their alignment?
We don't necessarily need PBs vote.
HF going for Grack and him first should already ring all alarm bells tho. There's no way town HF still believes that Palmar is town at this point. So in other words you think Holyflare is Unholyflare this game? + Show Spoiler +Tha tsi holyflare's scum nickname incase you didn't know. Almost guaranteed given he didn't insta unclaim when the night was over. He forced the real medic, aka me, to claim. I'm not letting him run around with a confirmed town sign on his head and decide the lynch. Grack did it correctly as he dropped the act instantly once he didn't die. Worst that can happen today isn't even that he claims it again, it's that we don't get SL and PB to vote him or Palmar. If HF claims medic again we lynch him and he flips scum. Fair play on that.
You think we should lynch HF over Palmar atm?
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I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie?
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With that in mind I going to unvote until we have a confirmation of who we lynching today between Palmar and HF becuase I think the game will solve itself after lynching the scum of the two in my world.
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You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker.
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On May 20 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote:I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks. D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon. N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia. D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none. Show nested quote +On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:
this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people. And doesn't consolidate. Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for. Show nested quote +On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:On May 15 2017 05:17 Vivax wrote:On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:On May 15 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
LS, who do you think are rayn's partners? Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything. I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this. LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread? Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh. Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia. He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew. Show nested quote +On May 20 2017 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie? Show nested quote +On May 19 2017 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:I think this was the closest he got to a town case on Grack but it wasn't exactly a great town case which is why I don't remember him doing one: On May 14 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:dont lynch grack plsof course first i have to establish that there isn't really such a thing as anti-incrimination. townreads will always be a more wishy-washy sort of read than scum reads which means no one is allowed to yell at you when you call someoine town , i think. the smarter thing to do was probably to make a refutation to the scum case but oh well, i am no weenie so here are some examples of grack doing things that are townie things to do. like calling people out: + Show Spoiler +On May 13 2017 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2017 18:11 Palmar wrote:
random voteswitching at the deadline didn't work?
I'm shocked I say, shocked. Dude you didn't even show up. You were like "Oh no we have only a 5% chance of success. Allow me to proceed to do absolutely nothing!" boom rekt On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me. Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.
So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions? My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel. How about you play the game instead of this shit? Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it? Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly  ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff. rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia. Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion? this post (and also the one where he responds to the damdred WoT) also indicate that he is closely reading and actually analyzing the game. which is ofc a Townie Thing To Do and having fun. but not like shapelog trolling, actually being funny. also kinda had a real purpose behind it + Show Spoiler +On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly are the quality posts you three made? They looked kinda like this: scum imitating trolling always end up being cryptic and useless, and not actually good like this. that was a much better explanation than the one outside the spoiler On May 10 2017 18:48 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know who started this noted thing but it's super obnoxious. On May 10 2017 18:51 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 18:50 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm going to vote you and see how it feels. Maybe it'll feel good, I don't know. So many things yet unanswered. Noted. admit it u are literally laughing ur ass off but the way this is done conveys his genuine irritation with the noted thing too part of the difficulty in writing this is i don't get how on earth he is scum anyway. it is just so obvious from his filter that this guy is town. but if you have a couple points against him i can tell you they're shit and we can make a little more progress towards Not Lynching An Obvious Townie On Day 2 his points aren't really great so the fact he went to try to defend grack could mean grack is a potental partner for TW but there might be other people who could be TW's partner. LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads. Lynch him after me.
Okay EoD2 I had to get my haircut so I couldn't be there at deadline so I couldn't change my vote. Also the clues given did make me think it's your or Palmar and I did vote Palmar if you looked at the voting thread in fact let me bring it here:
On May 19 2017 05:43 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
Yes I ahd had as a scumlean despite the fact we agreed about rayn but it was for stuff outside of it but you did look better so I moved you up to null.
Also the lynch on Damdred:
My only alternative was DF and I didn't feel like lynch DF despite the fact we were both voting the same person. simpley because I Damdred's re entrance was meh in my opinion so I thought he be a more likely scum than DF at the time.
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On May 20 2017 23:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2017 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:
You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker. explain how that makes anysense?
Simple Palmar would be town so my prefer lynch would be you.
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Like I don't think Palmar and HF are together as a team so in my world it would leave you and pb if HF flips scum.
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On May 20 2017 23:55 Holyflare wrote:
Also you cherry pick grack being confirmed town and then not confirmed town but now you say your poe contains pb when tw basically confirms him too in that world.
I just saying it a potential that was all? I think PB is townier than sicklucker anyways.
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On May 20 2017 23:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2017 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:
You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker. How the hell can you think only one of us is mafia but the guy trying to solve the game is the one instead of the guy pandering to emotions? None of that makes the slightest bit of sense. If there's only one mafia between us then why do I spend my time trying to defend him when I just let him die and get confirmed town?
You did the bolded as you entertained the idea of lynching me over Palmar when Palmar should be your confirmed scum. Almost everyone on your wagon can vote Palmar but the fact you going after me instead of lynching him despite the fact that Palmar is voting you and he should be your confirmed why not try to lynch him over me? This is like I'm a cop you Idiot Town's Revenge where Palmar who tried to claim cop as scum tried to lynch outside of me on Day 3 and was scum. I not letting you get away with it.
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On May 20 2017 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
No, this is prime example of you leaving your options open like you have done with me all game while sheeping me too. Kill LS after me.
Had you looked where I said before that post that I thought pb was townie earlier?
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On May 21 2017 00:02 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2017 23:37 LightningStrike wrote:On May 20 2017 23:31 sicklucker wrote:On May 20 2017 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:
You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker. explain how that makes anysense? Simple Palmar would be town so my prefer lynch would be you. how am I ever mafia with holyflare? I know your not the sharpest tool in the shed but I just switched the lynch from palmar to hf
You independent of his alignment.
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On May 21 2017 00:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:On May 20 2017 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
No, this is prime example of you leaving your options open like you have done with me all game while sheeping me too. Kill LS after me. Had you looked where I said before that post that I thought pb was townie earlier? Yet you still keep him as a lynch option.
Only if I was wrong sicklucker because if I was wrong anyone on that it would be PB.
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On May 20 2017 23:59 Holyflare wrote:
Outline your stance on palmar through each cycle.
Day 1/Night 1 scumish I thought it was weird he was thinking about sheeping me on lynching you Day 1 although he did sheep people on Day 1 in past moved him up slightly.
Day 2/Night 2 Didn't really change much at all from the EoN 1.
Day 3/Night 3: I moved back to thinking he could be a potental scum after TW was lynched and flipped scum due to him placing him and you as potential scum.
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On May 21 2017 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
Lynching palmar is a fallacy. You're basing this entire game off tw filter because nobody has a legitimate clue how to play mafia based on content. Only vivax has mentioned content related to palmar and it's not so bad.
The fact I'm a unanimous wagon with nobody defending me whereas palmar had at least 2 people defending him (myself and sl) should be evidence enough that I'm not mafia.
Where has palmar gone now I have the votes on me? Absolutely anywhere but here. Yet, you're encouraging more and more falsehoods my way to get me to be the majority wagon more.
That's bad lightningstrike and you know it.
I would lynch Palmar if we get that wagon going but I also don't mind lynching you as I think one of you two are always scum in the scenrio and we lynch to lynch the scum out of you two.
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On May 21 2017 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I proved using meta that Tumblewood doesn't separate his mafia buddies like you're saying he does. You should read my posts.
He could easily changed it I think either you or Palmar could coach him on it.
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On May 21 2017 00:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2017 00:10 LightningStrike wrote:On May 21 2017 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I proved using meta that Tumblewood doesn't separate his mafia buddies like you're saying he does. You should read my posts. He could easily changed it I think either you or Palmar could coach him on it. So you think I'd coach a player to change their meta to give away our whole mafia team??? I don't coach anybody in mafia chat.
I think you could do that easily with another person backing you up on that.
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On May 21 2017 00:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2017 05:26 Holyflare wrote:Just going through old tw mafia games atm + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2016 09:57 Tumblewood wrote:long time no see apparently I'm supposed to answer questions so I'll answer the one that goes "hey tumble who do you think is scum" I think there are only three players who would have gone for the legendary 5-day solo run given their position after N1: skynx, jean, and jealous. tt and damdred were in very poor position, and super made a move that is pretty bold for someone who loses as soon as they're lynched (that of course being the fakeclaim) though in theory I should not give him a free pass for that-- I'm in a shortcutty mood. tbh I'm talking out of my ass when I talk about skynx's meta because I hardly interacted with him in xxi, but under the "generic newbie" meta his push on art was pretty hard to pull off. also he's been bringing up the same point I did in this post (that it's probably someone in favorable enough position to pull it off) which is something scum in favorable position a la skynx would want to avoid bringing up because duh why would you give people a free reason to scumread you? skynx is probably town. jealous confuses me meta-wise so I'll ignore meta regarding him + Show Spoiler + except for the part where I'm considering him because I surmise that he might believe in himself enough to go for the 4 mislynch try. I was scumreading jealous mostly by poe but at the end of D2 I noticed something that made him pretty townie in my mind: he was under pressure in a 3-way wagon scenario (between him, tt, and damdred, and at end of day chezinu). he faced more stark opposition targeting damdred than anyone else, but he pushed his preferred lynch over the path of least resistance. it just looked like jealous really really cared about his damdred scumread right then. jean is the one who makes the most sense in my mind. he's been swinging for the fences all game, which is something you kind of need to do when you see moosy/ec as your scum partners. highest priority when you see they're under fire is to get as much town cred as possible and jean did that. the path he took seems unlikely but I think he is the most plausible scum. All of these scum reads, none of them are his partners. Also learn to use paragraphs please. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 01:02 Damdred wrote:
I guess we will come down to a jealous vs damdred Lynch today.
Meh brb at the end of my 6-page catching up spree I get a nice little summary. I don't think anyone outside of jealous / tt / damdred (/ art? probably not) is ever scum so I think the logical plan is to lynch them in about that order. in every respect damdred feels pretty alright but not exceptional this game. I generally skim what jealous says because he writes paragraphs about sentences, so tbh no strong opinion on him. tt is looking better after not conceding... I don't think that very many people have the will to try and force 4 mislynches in a row with no partners while being scumread with blue evidence, but as a matter of principle I don't ever want to judge anyone on whether or not they concede. tt feels much better than he did d1 though, so I'd prefer to lynch jealous today. good order is jealous -> tt -> damdred -> art though hopefully we don't get so far down the list. Again hard town reads all of the people that aren't these few. None of them are partners. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2016 05:32 Tumblewood wrote:
Likeliest scum
Chez
Tt
Skynx
Jean
Super
Damdred
Everyone else
0% scum More scum reads, no team mates. I got bored reading the rest. Pretty much in the 3 games I've checked he doesn't like to bus his team mates. There was a weak push against one in one game but then he went full town read. TLDR his read list isn't conclusive of anything whatsoever and LS meta god should have seen this too. Show nested quote +On May 20 2017 05:32 Holyflare wrote:I've also actually read the context of that hf/palmar nk comment and it stems from this and rayn's post : On May 14 2017 08:40 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i read rayn's cases and they seem fair. with rayn, hf, and palmar all alive after the NK at least one of them has to be scum, and rayn is town. so it's either palmar or hf and i don't know how to read either of them but it seems pretty obvious what to do if one of them flips town If rayn makes a post implicating two townies and he knows it fuels a shit fest between rayn/palmar/hf why wouldn't he make that post you keep quoting? It's non committal in any regard and isn't followed up at all. The only time he attacks either of us is in response to when rayn shows up. Aka trying to adapt to the thread. It also enables a double mislynch if we're both town. A possibility. Pretty much we lynch sl no matter what. Show nested quote +On May 20 2017 05:56 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2017 05:38 Grackaroni wrote:
When I played scum with TW he hard bussed me and Rels. But I think it's more relevant whether he's hard town read his teammates early on before rather than whatever cherry picked game you are looking at now to argue your case. my point is that him saying that palmar/hf are doing something bad has no relevance to whether they are his team mates because sometimes he hard defends them and sometimes he busses Here are some damning posts to destroy your theory that myself and palmar has to be mafia together. Also I'm glad you outline that you have no game based reasons to town read palmar but you're happy to vote me.
Unfornately I would lynch him if wasn't for the fact you soft defended him and looking to lynch outside of Palmar despite the fact you know the majority of us on your wagon are willing to vote him.
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