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On April 07 2017 14:23 sicklucker wrote:
once again ryan you seem to have tunneled on something completely null and pointless to the game which im ignoring because I believe its completely null and pointless to the game and that makes you think im mafia.
Even if you think im mafia im not a day 1 player and if you lynch me day 1 again after saying you dont want to mislynch me trololo. I acualy kind of want this to happen
I am trying to understand why you say things you do because it doesn't make any sense to me so can you please jsut answer me?
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Like you can't jsut say something that makes absolutely no sense at all and then brush it off by "you're tunneling something completely irrelevant". That's not how this game works and you very well know it so just play the fucking game or don't join if you are not going to play.
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Why do you think you will get more points if you rolled mafia? Because to me that seems like you're already - at the start of the game - saying "i will not play well as i am town". If that's not what the post you wrote meant, then please explain WHAT did you mean because i can't find any other answer to that, since if you play well, you are, just as anyone else, capable of being amongst the best townies in the game and get points. You literally cannot think townies cannot receive points from winning. You CAN think not ALL townies don't receive points for winning. Which brings me to the other question; Why do you think town doesn't win the game? Because that's the only reasonable explanation for you to not get any points if you're town (in case mafia wins).
I could understand this somehow in some very weird fucking twisting way of thinking, if you preferred mafia over town - but apparently you don't since you just said so yourself...
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On April 07 2017 14:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you can't jsut say something that makes absolutely no sense at all and then brush it off by "you're tunneling something completely irrelevant". That's not how this game works and you very well know it so just play the fucking game or don't join if you are not going to play. if you dont understand it why the fuck are you focusing on it?
because when people say dumb shit that doesn't make any sense it usually comes from mafia.
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On April 07 2017 14:32 sicklucker wrote:
I already explained I thought the rules were mafia gets 10 points for a team win and town gets 0. a few minutes later a reread the op and clarified. you seemed to have missed this which is what tumblweed is calling you out for here
So you hoped to have rolled mafia so it would be more likely to get points. Okay.
Why did you think town doesn't win the game? (that would be 0 "victory" points for mafia and 0 "victory" points for town in your mind - assuming you missed the OP).
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See here is why i don't necessarily believe you sicklucker.
You made this post.
On April 06 2017 11:26 sicklucker wrote:
like 10 points garantees me finals shame
This is a post you have made before you, by your own words, read the OP. But the points thingy is not in the OP. It's almost directly above the current standings table.
I have very hard time believing you had read the standings table but not the post above.
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Yeah i missed something. You don't even seem to realize that you are guaranteed a final place by points even if you get 0 whatever happens in this game and whoever gets points. I won't bother you more with this.
Let's talk about something else then. Any reads so far?
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Gonna go to the store real quick, brb in 10.
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On April 07 2017 14:48 sicklucker wrote:
tumble and calix looked townie
why calix?
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I actually think the way Calix does it is scummy.
First of all i cannot think of a mafia motivation for beentheredonethat to ever say what he did. Obviously he didn't read your post but does it make him mafia? No. Because mafia are more concerned about their appereance to other people (generally). Now i COULD understand Calix can think the post is scummy, but she has made this post:
On April 06 2017 19:16 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because it doesn't make any fucking sense. Did you miss the memo about how ALL PLAYERS can do things that 'don't make any fucking sense'? Occam's Razor points to SL not reading the OP properly. This means nothing and going "it doesn't make sense -> mafia" is a simplistic blanket argument that doesn't show any critical thinking.
On April 06 2017 19:25 Calix wrote:
Again, how is this remotely important? I don't care if it's illogical - how does it actually further mafia goals?
Like here she literally calls me out (i dont even know if she's calling me out or not - just read what Koshi wrote about our exchange) for doing the same thing she does here. If you look even just a little bit behind the words in BTDT's post and think about "why would mafia post this?" you should 100% come to the conclusion that it is not alignment indicative at all that he missed your post, and making the post is actually more likely to come from a townie, ESPECIALLY if you think like the green parts here in the quotes say.
Now okay, let's assume Calix somehow thinks the post is scummy anyways. She calls the post out. Why doesn't she place a vote? After that she called BTDT out for:
On April 06 2017 20:04 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 20:01 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I. If you think that, where is your vote...? yawn >thinks Koshi is worth a push >does nothing to make this happen Strong.
Now does she think the post is scummy after all? Either she thinks it's not (and therefore should just be ignored instead of being called out), or she thinks it is, in which case she should by her own logic place a vote on BTDT. She does neither. What gives?
Like what i see here is standard mafia "let's call out bad posts and see if anyone else picks that up and starts pushing townies" play. I can't really explain it in any other way. Same thing with the earlier conversation with me. Same thing in another conversation with Koshi. She isn't trying to even figure out our alignments, she is just throwing shit on "bad posts" and hope someone picks up on them and calls them mafia -> aka does the dirty work.
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The only reason i would add him back to null is that he seemed like he was clearly working on figuring players alignments (which i townread him for) and then he decided to throw all the town credit into trash by saying he could lynch like 7 people in the game... In other words - no progression at all.
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But i am not sure if it makes him mafia.
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Well we agree on Calix at the moment and BTDT is discussed.
What about Shapelog?
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Oh yeah and Tunblewood, do you still think he's town?
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On April 07 2017 04:04 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.
Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play. A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!" Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote: Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again. I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down  . In my experience, Calix is a cocky bugger no matter her alignment, so I don't know what her tone has to do with the price of eggs. On the Flipsid3, I agree that Koshi's "clear" of Tumble is super premature imo; feels quite a bit like what he did last scum game when he "cleared" Calix very early on and then NK'd her.
I think this is one of the best posts in the thread (Shapelog part at least) and sums up my thoughts on Shapelog.
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Where did your townread on him come from in the first place (Tumble)?
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I liked his questioning on me on the sicklucker thing. Looked way better than Calix. Like from my opinion Tumblewood had an opinion of how things went and tried to tell me how things went instead of just throw shit. At least i thought so, but i'd still prefer him to answer me for the question i asked because that's something i don't understand.
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oh nevermind i missed his answer when i was engaged with sl convo.
Yeah Tumblewood can be town.
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On April 07 2017 15:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:So trying to get this straight: Koshi says, Calix is scum because * Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction + Show Spoiler [post in question] +On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:Also Koshi, On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made. What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her? The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho. Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking. I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so. I like Shape but that's gut feeling. Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons? I also don't like the last post. It felt bad.
I don't understand?
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