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This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:
##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people.
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Cause grack's a bro:
Scum hunting:
On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now
Town circling:
On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf.
I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads:
super/silver/grack
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Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo
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On January 31 2017 07:00 Superbia wrote:
sup EC
Also sup, been a while ! :O
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On January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:
##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people. Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^
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Unfortunately though, this is not the mission for sl. We'll need his French language skills later on
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Can't risk him getting taken out now
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On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope
Care to elaborate?
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On January 31 2017 18:57 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? Everyone thinks you are a spy
lol based on what?
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Based on your tone you seem to be scum reading me, but based on your post history ??? so where are you at
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On January 31 2017 19:18 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? If you were reading the game as you proclaimed you would already know why
I only saw that you would reject any team that has the leader on it. Not sure I quite follow why that makes sense.
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On January 27 2017 10:15 Vivax wrote:
Also curious about who keeps F5ing this thread and the community thread like crazy. Cause I'm F5ing the views =)
But here ye silent presence, I gave you something to read.
I like this post, anyone fess up to this yet? Maybe it was rels lol
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On January 31 2017 20:20 Vivax wrote:
If you think emc is spy cause of double replacement, you're in for a wild ride and a lot of assumption.
Don't see why his slot should be anything else but null for now.
What really annoys me though is how so far every team leader included himself. I believe that enforcing the policy of not being on the team you nominate would be beneficial.
My question to EMC is how he doesn't realize that his team will never make it through like that. It's doomed from the beginning. And the nomination was too early anyway. You can't expect people to trust you when you just got into the game.
I just want something on paper to discuss cause this game seemed super dead  , I can switch the nomination anytime up to the dead line
I see your logic, right now I'm thinking of 1 "wildcard" + 2 town reads, but the combo of whom is the question
what do you think of super/tumble/+1
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tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though.
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On January 31 2017 20:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. I don't see the benefit of extra info here. Even if the leader knows he is town the others don't necessarily know he is. And to benefit from the extra info you say he would gain, one person would have to convince everyone else that he's not the spy. Game also isn't dead it's just a slow format.
I dunno my mind is going in loops a bit, but I think you should vote for the team based on your read of the leader and the leader should include themselves.
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On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77
The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team.
That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games
On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77
super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two.
I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise.
Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK.
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On January 31 2017 23:26 Silverika wrote:
OK, That makes sense. I don't see any ulterior motives in your explanation. I could do either of those teams at this point.
~SilverWolf77
Cool cool, so grack, super, and tumble how do you feel about the teams I mentioned?
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##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble
@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention
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Almost for certainly tumble / super isn't a team so you should pick at least 1 of them to town read.
Wait wasn't it silver / super that had a mind meld on your team ok thing?
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I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.
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@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me
Sorry this is from mobile
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Oh god I should never run for president
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On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me
Sorry this is from mobile we trust grack more than super  if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right?
I mean I trust supe more I think lol
Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack
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Mm I think I just stick with original + I'm peacing soon
I feel good about this team :D and I encourage y'all to vote yay!!
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On February 01 2017 06:47 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 06:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Mm I think I just stick with original + I'm peacing soon
I feel good about this team :D and I encourage y'all to vote yay!! You were having doubts about the team before and now you feel good about the team? That's pretty strange.
Huh?
Well fuck, dat tumble timing. tumble how you feel about silver?
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@rta can you explain the progression on this:
On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77 The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team. That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:
Though Tina's waffly on Super still which makes me slightly waffly too grmbl Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77 super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two. I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise. Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK. We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though.
On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax.
On February 01 2017 05:28 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 04:26 Grackaroni wrote:
I think there's too many people in support of this team. The fact that emperor is pushing superbia over vivax makes me want vivax more >>
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I think the team is good since both other members are resistance reading silverika, and based off of what I read yesterday I don't really see any reason to put grack over super.
I'm interested to see how the votes fall out here.
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fwiw don't think that tumble/arti/grack is a team
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On February 01 2017 02:12 sharkie wrote:Welcome to the club... I will reject any team with tumble or super on it. Their back and forth annoys me to no end, plus they also both suspect me a spy because I apparently was in favour of a "all town" team and wanted to get credit for it...? Getting credit for a vote for teams is ridicilous in the first place and if it was all town why did you reject it then? o.O I trust silver the most (because as I mentioned they voted for a team all spies were against for). Anyone else I am neutral towards.
On February 01 2017 03:00 emperorchampion wrote:
Almost for certainly tumble / super isn't a team so you should pick at least 1 of them to town read.
Wait wasn't it silver / super that had a mind meld on your team ok thing?
I realized that was bad english lol, but answer please: wasn't it silver / super that were both reading you as spy for your approval of the first team. Why do you think one is spy but the other is resistance based on the same logic?
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On February 01 2017 07:38 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 07:27 Grackaroni wrote:On February 01 2017 07:10 sharkie wrote:On February 01 2017 07:02 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 07:01 sharkie wrote:
the day of my leadership is nearing :D -pokes- where you at in all this debate sharkie? Ignored and accused. But as I read this game correctly you don't even need me to win this game, right? Only 5/6 are necessary to win as rebels We just can't understand you. As far as I can tell you think that Tumble is too pushy. You like Silverwolf because she voted for the first team. And you really liked the first team. But we have no idea why you like that team so much aside from "there's 6 rebels and only 3 spies", which is true for any team. I just felt good about the people at that time. It's the first team with no information, that's all about your feeling only. Obviously, that has changed now. I don't want Super in a team anymore. Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 07:28 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 07:10 sharkie wrote:On February 01 2017 07:02 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 07:01 sharkie wrote:
the day of my leadership is nearing :D -pokes- where you at in all this debate sharkie? Ignored and accused. But as I read this game correctly you don't even need me to win this game, right? Only 5/6 are necessary to win as rebels technically but what i meant is what do you think about who is resistance and who is a spy? - Silver is resistance, would need some major changes to change my opinion about that. You I feel good towards too. - E/C is a spy for me because he offered us way too many possibilities for a team. That's a big "Hey, I let you guys decide what you want. Just like me please!" - sicklucker had my benefit of doubt till his weird drunk posts... You guys kept accusing people spies because they don't try hard enough - his behaviour reflects that a lot. - Tumble/Super - one of them is my third possible spy. I just don't know which one of them. Maybe there is a scenario where both of them are spies and they go the route of playing totally against each other I don't know (what I don't believe as that would also make sicklucker resistance). The rest are resistance by process of elimination.
On point three: does this make you think that sl is more spy or resistance? Not clear to me.
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On February 01 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 07:38 sharkie wrote:On February 01 2017 07:27 Grackaroni wrote:On February 01 2017 07:10 sharkie wrote:On February 01 2017 07:02 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 07:01 sharkie wrote:
the day of my leadership is nearing :D -pokes- where you at in all this debate sharkie? Ignored and accused. But as I read this game correctly you don't even need me to win this game, right? Only 5/6 are necessary to win as rebels We just can't understand you. As far as I can tell you think that Tumble is too pushy. You like Silverwolf because she voted for the first team. And you really liked the first team. But we have no idea why you like that team so much aside from "there's 6 rebels and only 3 spies", which is true for any team. I just felt good about the people at that time. It's the first team with no information, that's all about your feeling only. Obviously, that has changed now. I don't want Super in a team anymore. On February 01 2017 07:28 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 07:10 sharkie wrote:On February 01 2017 07:02 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 07:01 sharkie wrote:
the day of my leadership is nearing :D -pokes- where you at in all this debate sharkie? Ignored and accused. But as I read this game correctly you don't even need me to win this game, right? Only 5/6 are necessary to win as rebels technically but what i meant is what do you think about who is resistance and who is a spy? - Silver is resistance, would need some major changes to change my opinion about that. You I feel good towards too. - E/C is a spy for me because he offered us way too many possibilities for a team. That's a big "Hey, I let you guys decide what you want. Just like me please!" - sicklucker had my benefit of doubt till his weird drunk posts... You guys kept accusing people spies because they don't try hard enough - his behaviour reflects that a lot. - Tumble/Super - one of them is my third possible spy. I just don't know which one of them. Maybe there is a scenario where both of them are spies and they go the route of playing totally against each other I don't know (what I don't believe as that would also make sicklucker resistance). The rest are resistance by process of elimination. On point three: does this make you think that sl is more spy or resistance? Not clear to me.
OK I get it I'm stupid. But idk seems like a null point to me
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On February 01 2017 22:05 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 18:55 emperorchampion wrote:@rta can you explain the progression on this: On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77 The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team. That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:
Though Tina's waffly on Super still which makes me slightly waffly too grmbl Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77 super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two. I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise. Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK. We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though. On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax. On February 01 2017 05:28 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 04:26 Grackaroni wrote:
I think there's too many people in support of this team. The fact that emperor is pushing superbia over vivax makes me want vivax more >> what don't you understand? we both fail to see what's confusing
I think I just don't like how pushy you were about me being "stubborn". Especially Vivax over Super since I don't get a feeling that you're reading him as town too strongly. Actually I think the worst part for me was that a lot of the stuff was like <1hr till the deadline lol. Unless I pretty much rng a team at that point it's tough to think about changes. Maybe super->grack get's more votes, but I'm quite interested in how it plays out and I didn't necessarily think that it was the better team.
I dunno I'm pretty waffly on rtani right now. Pages 5/6 of your filter I like quite a bit. But I'm a little hung up on you showing up in the thread, getting friendly with grack then using that to "get bad vibes" with me since I didn't change the team.
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On February 02 2017 02:07 sicklucker wrote:
what weird drunk posts? I said ama as an open forum. super dodged it. hell if someones drunk I would probably take advvantage of it
oh boy, I laughed, but I feel bad about it
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On February 02 2017 02:10 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 19:00 emperorchampion wrote:
I think the team is good since both other members are resistance reading silverika, and based off of what I read yesterday I don't really see any reason to put grack over super.
I'm interested to see how the votes fall out here. if your town. you really really really need to vote no on this mission
Vote down my own team? Who would you propose?
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On February 02 2017 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
its just weird not to include yourself. I dont know why you guys are not doing it and who started it but there probably mafia. its like you bring the town pool from 6/2 to 5/3 which drastically descreases the chance of the mission passing
Logically I agree with you, but practically seems like no one will vote your team so idk
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Like instantly 3 people say that they won't vote the team on me with it
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On February 02 2017 02:23 sicklucker wrote:
is it really that bad if you dont pass from your pov? one of the people you included is picking next altho im pretty sure silverika is a spy. but if you think hes town you should assume he can put up a better team that will be voted on
Hmm I dunno, seems like a wasted opportunity. Like if I know the team will be voted down before I put the team up, why put it up at all? May as well put something else up. I feel like that way we actually get useful vote data. Like tumble's team, what use are the votes from that.
Yeah I feel OK about silver putting up a team, but that's in the future. Maybe exhausting all 5 attempts every time gives more vote info, but it's pretty risky since the team is auto accepted.
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I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.
I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that
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On February 02 2017 21:32 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 21:18 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.
I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that Can you tell me what happened that caused these doubts Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.
On both Super who didn't post anything of substance and Tumble who didn't post anything whilst Grack posted good shit like Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 05:43 Grackaroni wrote:I don't want to be too WIFOMy so I'll break this up into 3 possible scenarios and you can choose which one you think is the most likely scenario. Either: 1) Silver/Super/Tumblewood are all town. The 3 people who are most in favor of the Super/Tumble/Silver team are also town. (1st choice given by Vivax/EC/Artisoul). In this scenario the game is basically solved. The scum team is Me/Sharkie/Sicklucker and we completely flopped, while the entire town was able to effectively coalesce around a town team. + Show Spoiler + Latest team suggestionsOn January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:
##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people. Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^ On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77 The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team. That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77 super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two. I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise. Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK. We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though. On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax. On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2017 08:41 Silverika wrote:On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that? This is why I'm kind of annoyed the first one didn't pass. That said, Calix's complete lack of activity is unusual for her as either alignment and if we could get a replacement in, if needed, that would probably help a lot with reading that slot. ~SilverWolf Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble? On January 30 2017 08:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm blatantly advertising this team so we actually get something to pass at some point and if you have issues with any of its members speak up. On February 01 2017 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:
##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble
@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention 2) Super/Tumble/Silver are still town, but in this scenario one of Vivax/Artisoul/EC is secretly hoping that the team does not pass, and they were only in favor of the team to try to appear townie. *For this scenario I could only really see this being true with mafia! Artisoul. Vivax wanted the Tumble/Super/Silver team early on and EC laid out several different teams that he could have chosen from before settling on Tumble/Super/Silver. 3) At least one of Super/Tumble/Silver is mafia. I believe that this should be all of the possible scenarios. I think the 3rd one is the most likely. I know my role so I know that 1 isn't possible. But even if I didn't I would be quite surprised if both Sharkie and Sicklucker are mafia. in the hours leading up to the deadline for the team, yet you refused to swap Super or even Tumble out for Grack despite stating yourself a willingness to do so: Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 06:42 emperorchampion wrote:On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me
Sorry this is from mobile we trust grack more than super if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right? I mean I trust supe more I think lol Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack Why did you still go with silver/super/tumble instead of subbing one of the latter for Grack?
I mean I pretty much picked the team to see how tumble and super will deal with each, and on the basis of townread on super and silver. So tumble and super not posting at all after that was a bit meh. I still felt like the team was valid for the original reasons though. In addition neither posted in the last cycle, I think super has dropped a bit for me.
In retrospect yeah I maybe should have swapped super -> grack, but part of me is worried why it's such an issue 1hr before the deadline, and not maybe 6hrs ago when I proposed it. Also an issue for me was that I pretty much wasn't actually able to switch the teams since I was busy with irl stuff. So yeah it's pretty annoying to have that happen right before the end of the deadline. In the end I just decided it was better to go with what I had originally thought than swap right then.
Are you still waffly on super? What do you think of neither tumble nor super posting in the last cycle?
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On February 02 2017 21:59 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 21:55 emperorchampion wrote:On February 02 2017 21:32 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 21:18 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.
I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that Can you tell me what happened that caused these doubts On February 01 2017 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.
On both Super who didn't post anything of substance and Tumble who didn't post anything whilst Grack posted good shit like On February 01 2017 05:43 Grackaroni wrote:I don't want to be too WIFOMy so I'll break this up into 3 possible scenarios and you can choose which one you think is the most likely scenario. Either: 1) Silver/Super/Tumblewood are all town. The 3 people who are most in favor of the Super/Tumble/Silver team are also town. (1st choice given by Vivax/EC/Artisoul). In this scenario the game is basically solved. The scum team is Me/Sharkie/Sicklucker and we completely flopped, while the entire town was able to effectively coalesce around a town team. + Show Spoiler + Latest team suggestionsOn January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:
##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people. Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^ On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77 The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team. That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77 super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two. I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise. Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK. We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though. On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax. On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2017 08:41 Silverika wrote:On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that? This is why I'm kind of annoyed the first one didn't pass. That said, Calix's complete lack of activity is unusual for her as either alignment and if we could get a replacement in, if needed, that would probably help a lot with reading that slot. ~SilverWolf Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble? On January 30 2017 08:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm blatantly advertising this team so we actually get something to pass at some point and if you have issues with any of its members speak up. On February 01 2017 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:
##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble
@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention 2) Super/Tumble/Silver are still town, but in this scenario one of Vivax/Artisoul/EC is secretly hoping that the team does not pass, and they were only in favor of the team to try to appear townie. *For this scenario I could only really see this being true with mafia! Artisoul. Vivax wanted the Tumble/Super/Silver team early on and EC laid out several different teams that he could have chosen from before settling on Tumble/Super/Silver. 3) At least one of Super/Tumble/Silver is mafia. I believe that this should be all of the possible scenarios. I think the 3rd one is the most likely. I know my role so I know that 1 isn't possible. But even if I didn't I would be quite surprised if both Sharkie and Sicklucker are mafia. in the hours leading up to the deadline for the team, yet you refused to swap Super or even Tumble out for Grack despite stating yourself a willingness to do so: On February 01 2017 06:42 emperorchampion wrote:On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me
Sorry this is from mobile we trust grack more than super if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right? I mean I trust supe more I think lol Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack Why did you still go with silver/super/tumble instead of subbing one of the latter for Grack? I mean I pretty much picked the team to see how tumble and super will deal with each, and on the basis of townread on super and silver. So tumble and super not posting at all after that was a bit meh. I still felt like the team was valid for the original reasons though. In addition neither posted in the last cycle, I think super has dropped a bit for me. In retrospect yeah I maybe should have swapped super -> grack, but part of me is worried why it's such an issue 1hr before the deadline, and not maybe 6hrs ago when I proposed it. Also an issue for me was that I pretty much wasn't actually able to switch the teams since I was busy with irl stuff. So yeah it's pretty annoying to have that happen right before the end of the deadline. In the end I just decided it was better to go with what I had originally thought than swap right then. Are you still waffly on super? What do you think of neither tumble nor super posting in the last cycle? If you picked the team to see how tumble and super dealt with each other, and then they didn't deal with each other at all during that phase, why did you stick with it?
Yeah that was arguably stupid, and probably a large part of why the team got voted down lol. I guess I was hoping for better in the next phase.
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On February 03 2017 15:01 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2017 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
in other news vivax probably town for being so insistent on not adding himself to his team. 'principled' is not a word I'd use to describe scum You see, it also forces spies to add one of their mates to the team. Which is another step in making bussing in this setup suicidal.
I think it's an OK philosophy for this mission, but for higher people missions I'm not sure it's good. Maaybe OK for the mission that requires 2 fails to fail, but otherwise we're risking since the leader will have to add only resistance, and doesn't have any wiggle room.
That said I really wish that you would have added yourself vivax over sharkie on this mission.
@Silver what team do you have in mind at the moment?
I'm thinking of up-yay'ing vivax's team based on silver and grack. A lot of people town-reading sharkie lately which I can't hop on, given his read on me and constant refusal to answer any questions that I've posted in this thread.
Tumble not sure on, have to go back and look at interactions between silver/tumble/super. I'm getting tin-foilly over a rtani/sharkie team. Think super/grack are OK for now, hopefully they will post more this cycle. Vivax looking good to me right now.
sl I need to figure out, his townread on grack feels a little opportunistic given the timing and the momentum in the thread at that time. I think the interactions that he had with me otherwise are fine.
@sl 2 questions: where does your initial town read on me come from?
how do you feel about tumble right now?
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On February 03 2017 23:11 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2017 23:04 Silverika wrote:On February 03 2017 19:04 sharkie wrote:On February 03 2017 17:47 Silverika wrote:
I am uneasy about how sharkie started out acting as though he barely even knew what scum meant and basically making a lot of comments like he didn't know what he was doing. Later his post suddenly get a lot better with more analysis. Plus we didn't care for chairman ray either. It's kind of an uneasy feeling based on inconsistent play. I'm gonna talk to ika about Tumblewood cuz he said he wasn't sure he trusted them and let him comment on that. I know I had some issues earlier but they've fallen off the radar lately.
~SilverWolf77 I still only know half of the words you use to describe things. I've played "The resistance" the board game and there no things such as scum or townread appear... Have you ever played mafia before? I'm trying to decide if you are just new to the game or being clever trying to make us think you are because your later posting looks more experienced. Even your post giving advice to us looks like a seasoned player. On other sites, I've seen scum do this if the player base doesn't know them because people write it off as new Town so that's why I'm paranoid. ~SilverWolf77 No, I have never played Mafia. Well like I said I have played resistance before. When I get more information I can say more. But for the very first nomination you can't say anything and so I went with gut feeling and I still feel very good about 2/3 of that team. Most of the others probably regret a lot that they rejected RT's team anyway.. But since I have played resistance before I still don't see how spies or resistance can ever claim credit for voting of a successful team (which a few of you claimed I was doing). I am still waiting for that answer: how can a person ever claim credit for voting a successful team?
By saying: I thought that this team would pass, that's why I voted for them. Because I was right about that, this is why you should think I'm town / listen to my opinion right now...
It's basically about building up your reputation
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On February 03 2017 23:04 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2017 19:04 sharkie wrote:On February 03 2017 17:47 Silverika wrote:
I am uneasy about how sharkie started out acting as though he barely even knew what scum meant and basically making a lot of comments like he didn't know what he was doing. Later his post suddenly get a lot better with more analysis. Plus we didn't care for chairman ray either. It's kind of an uneasy feeling based on inconsistent play. I'm gonna talk to ika about Tumblewood cuz he said he wasn't sure he trusted them and let him comment on that. I know I had some issues earlier but they've fallen off the radar lately.
~SilverWolf77 I still only know half of the words you use to describe things. I've played "The resistance" the board game and there no things such as scum or townread appear... Have you ever played mafia before? I'm trying to decide if you are just new to the game or being clever trying to make us think you are because your later posting looks more experienced. Even your post giving advice to us looks like a seasoned player. On other sites, I've seen scum do this if the player base doesn't know them because people write it off as new Town so that's why I'm paranoid. ~SilverWolf77
Hmm good point on this.
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On February 04 2017 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Yeh it looks like you only thought of two spies while knowing you're the third lul.
Are scumslips real? Don't miss the resistance edition.
Vivax turning the screws
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On February 05 2017 00:22 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 19:14 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 19:06 Vivax wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with what emc did he came into the thread yolo nominated a team, then readjusted it based on feedback. Nothing wrong with not being stubborn especially when he just came in as replacement.
Anyway this isn't just about the team I want but about the team that most of town can agree on.
TW, SL are staying out of it. That's not questionable atm.
Me, Grack, ika sounds tempting but includes me and that goes against my philosophy and I don't want to spend time arguing why I'm resistance anyway. Others can do that when they feel like noming me.
Grack, ika, super looks viable to me atm. Still paranoid of rtanisoul. Even you shouldn't be able to ignore how Superbia and TW looked pretty awful near the end of the day and EC went On February 01 2017 06:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Mm I think I just stick with original + I'm peacing soon
I feel good about this team :D and I encourage y'all to vote yay!! Which sounds pretty godawful to me. Also why are you paranoid about us? Any reasons or just standard Vivax tinfoil? oh, this. yeah...lol >< reading comprehension is still difficult for people. lex was saying that EC WAS stubborn, where you were arguing that he wasn't...tumble's been progressively dropping in our reads. not sure how that is 'sketchy' for you, but whatevs we still think this will pass, so y'all can tinfoil about all willy nilly if you like lex would like to add he still doesn't see a tumble/super scum team when they had the opportunity others provided to townread each other, and he still feels super is scum. strongest scum for lex. i'll let him explain it cause he's now using me as a secretary -_- ^ agree super more likely scum than tumble, easily ^ still keeping sl as my most scummy >> mostly to annoy lex >> and now i'll remind lex i had super as scum before him >> for post-game cred when both turn out to be scum \o/ @.@ i'm literally getting hit with a stick right now
I still don't fully understand how stubborn = scum, but w/e.
I'm pretty surprised that no one else voted down the mission apart from super. sl voting pass is pretty lulz
Pass or fail I'd eat my shorts if there isn't one scum on that team. No way any tinfoil team is baby sealing at this point in the game. Pretty much that would mean it's super/tumble/sl which is quite unlikely to me.
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On February 05 2017 03:00 Silverika wrote:
Baby sealing?
By that I mean giving up
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Izi 1 pass lol
Super's posts are a little weird but I feel good for being pretty much at the same place as me.
Vivacious and silver look pretty solid. I think these 3 + me is my top team right now
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On February 05 2017 19:15 sharkie wrote:
Yay the mission passed! So this pretty much mean confirms that Grack and silver are resistance as they could have put the whole blame on me if they had been spies. This was also the aim of my post where I said that the spies had a win/win situation to further encourage a spy to sabotage the mission. So in my view both silver and Grack confirmed 100% resistance.
On the selection of the 4th team member for the next team I'd rather want RTani on the team than Vivax. I trust him more and imo he has also done more for the play so he feels more resistance for me. Vivax is still a little weird for me as he has been accepted resistance too easily by too many people (so including spies) and I did not like that he did not send himself to the mission as I am a player who always sends himself to a mission - anyone who doesn't is kinda shady in my eyes.
Also EC/Super are confirmed spies for me now as they did not like the passed mission.
1. This + vivacious logic is pretty solid I think on grack/silver so bump up to grack there
2. You were on vivax team, why would you approve if you feel weird about him not including himself?
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On February 07 2017 01:36 Superbia wrote:
Or you could just tell me why you voted on a team which had your scumread on it.
Who are you talking to here?
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On February 07 2017 01:58 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 01:36 Superbia wrote:
Or you could just tell me why you voted on a team which had your scumread on it. Who are you talking to here?
nvm, but yeah the answer is out there...
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Without going to filter dive, something along the lines of: "townread on super, if fails look at tumble as potential scum; also provides some votes to go on for the future / get some action".
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On February 07 2017 02:35 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 02:16 emperorchampion wrote:
Without going to filter dive, something along the lines of: "townread on super, if fails look at tumble as potential scum; also provides some votes to go on for the future / get some action". Even if this is true it's stll pretty shady. Like why did yeam 4 get so many votes compared to prev team. Either you must belive ec and I are strictly mafia together (hint no), at least two mafia all of a sudden decided to vote yes on an all town team, or team contains mafia. Get your head out of your ass people.
I mean this is pretty much why I don't see you as mafia. Here's a grack style list:
1) all town team
a) super is town: that means that all 3 scum voted for all town team...
b) super is maf: that means that super breaks rank vs other scum, who are still voting for all town team
2) at least 1 scum in team:
a) super is town: most logical in my view, all 3 scum vote for team with at least 1 scum on it
b) super is maf: possible, but mafia want team to pass
At least 1 scum in the team is weird tho given the mission success, I'm tossing around the idea of 2 scum in the team, but idk.
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On February 07 2017 02:27 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 02:16 emperorchampion wrote:
Without going to filter dive, something along the lines of: "townread on super, if fails look at tumble as potential scum; also provides some votes to go on for the future / get some action". I have a pretty strong feeling that Tumblewood is scum already as it is.
Yeah that's pretty much why I ended up deciding to fail vote 4, at the end I realized that it's probably not optimal to pass someone you think is scum, despite any information you might "gain".
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On February 07 2017 02:52 Superbia wrote:
I don't necessarily think you're town EC lol
Where you at bruh?
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On February 07 2017 02:59 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 02:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Methinks the team is Sharkie/Tumblewood/Rtanisoul ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hUcqb8Q.gif)
Your gif game is def on point
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On February 07 2017 03:05 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 03:00 emperorchampion wrote:On February 07 2017 02:52 Superbia wrote:
I don't necessarily think you're town EC lol Where you at bruh? I always tend to think scum votes split up. But blind votes kinda make that irrelevant I guess.
Mmm I don't really see reason why they should here though
What happened to your early theories / reads of "game solved"?
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On February 07 2017 07:20 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 07:18 sicklucker wrote:On February 07 2017 07:07 Superbia wrote:
Like what type of koolaid are you drinking to think that the original 3 was town dont think it matters its the math play. the two are garanteed town. sharkie just might be a newb who was afraid but hell he even just downvoted the mission so i doubt it The fucking math play!? You mean the meth play. I had a post detailing why the original 3 had a mafia in them like super likely. Straight from the votes.
loooool
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On February 07 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
You won't get anywhere just with vote analysis. It's too easy to tamper with.
According to vote analysis one would conclude rtanisoul is town just cause they nay-voted a team with themselves on it.
ugh this is where I feel like I'm at right now
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On February 07 2017 19:27 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
You won't get anywhere just with vote analysis. It's too easy to tamper with.
According to vote analysis one would conclude rtanisoul is town just cause they nay-voted a team with themselves on it. Incorrect. Vote #4 says a lot because it has such a stark contrast to all other votes so far. Especially for me since I know at least 2 mafia voted yet on the team.
I mean I would say we are both certain that there's mafia on the mission 1 team. Pretty much only other option is that mafia concedes.
Given that vivax seemingly wants to pin it on sharkie, and vice versa, I don't think they are team mates. If that was the case I think that vivax would look more to grack, likewise with sharkie.
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Reading through vivax and sharkie's posts they both seem logical, I can see the perspective of each with regards to being paranoid about each other.
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On February 07 2017 19:48 Superbia wrote:
Welp I like grack as the mafia.
Hmm I looked into grack but I'm not sure.
Look at these posts:
On February 05 2017 15:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I might be slightly stupid, but I swear this mission is going to fail. This game is way too easy right now. And the spy isn't Vivax. It's one of Silver/sharkie.
On February 07 2017 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
my team makes sense to me. I'm pretty sure the next mission is going to fail.
Silverika is too indignant to be scum.
Vivax is actually coming up with a lot of thought out scum pairings without trying too hard to be town read. Plus he said right off the bat that Silver/I aren't scum, which is a good thing from my perspective.
Tumblewood/Artanis are both like "I think Grack could definitely be scum here. Full steam ahead guys!"
##Accept. Plus Tumblewood is super blendy while Rtanisoul seems to mainly be trying to buddy Silver.
Everyone else seems to be showing at least some level of skepticism over the team.
I think we are (were) at similar points in this game.
Another issue with grack as scum for me, is that when I look at sl's play it completely turned at mission 1. I'm thinking through if sl passes mission 1 for a town read on either sharkie/silver. If you look at all the reasons that he fails attempt 3 vs attempt 4: it's grack not on the team, leader not on the team, and not silver nominating VS silver on the team anyways, sharkie on the team, and leader still not on team. I don't see how town sl votes down my team by votes up vivax's team, so sl as scum conditions my read on grack as well.
Also given this:
On February 04 2017 01:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Right now I see the game in terms of 3 groups (listed in no particular order):
The definite town:
Grackaroni
Silverika
The townie feels
Artanisoul
Vivax
Sharkie
The people without townie feels
Emperorchampion
The one of these two is scum group
Tumblewood
Superbia
The definite scum
Sicklucker
I still think at least one of Super/Tumble will be red.
Don't see grack/sl, putting his team mate at the bottom, don't think scum usually does that. Especially since I think that grack has pretty easy out for a town read on sl earlier.
Pretty sure given the interactions silver/sl is not a team. Maybe I'm just mega tunneled but I'm also running out of places to look, I'm in an sl/sharkie world right now.
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On February 07 2017 20:09 Superbia wrote:
It kind of sucks that this mission is essentially wasted, information wise.
Meh maybe not, if it does fail we have extra day of talk time.
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On February 07 2017 20:44 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:On February 07 2017 19:48 Superbia wrote:
Welp I like grack as the mafia. Hmm I looked into grack but I'm not sure. Look at these posts: On February 05 2017 15:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I might be slightly stupid, but I swear this mission is going to fail. This game is way too easy right now. And the spy isn't Vivax. It's one of Silver/sharkie. On February 07 2017 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
my team makes sense to me. I'm pretty sure the next mission is going to fail.
Silverika is too indignant to be scum.
Vivax is actually coming up with a lot of thought out scum pairings without trying too hard to be town read. Plus he said right off the bat that Silver/I aren't scum, which is a good thing from my perspective.
Tumblewood/Artanis are both like "I think Grack could definitely be scum here. Full steam ahead guys!"
##Accept. Plus Tumblewood is super blendy while Rtanisoul seems to mainly be trying to buddy Silver.
Everyone else seems to be showing at least some level of skepticism over the team. I think we are (were) at similar points in this game. Another issue with grack as scum for me, is that when I look at sl's play it completely turned at mission 1. I'm thinking through if sl passes mission 1 for a town read on either sharkie/silver. If you look at all the reasons that he fails attempt 3 vs attempt 4: it's grack not on the team, leader not on the team, and not silver nominating VS silver on the team anyways, sharkie on the team, and leader still not on team. I don't see how town sl votes down my team by votes up vivax's team, so sl as scum conditions my read on grack as well. Also given this: On February 04 2017 01:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Right now I see the game in terms of 3 groups (listed in no particular order):
The definite town:
Grackaroni
Silverika
The townie feels
Artanisoul
Vivax
Sharkie
The people without townie feels
Emperorchampion
The one of these two is scum group
Tumblewood
Superbia
The definite scum
Sicklucker
I still think at least one of Super/Tumble will be red. Don't see grack/sl, putting his team mate at the bottom, don't think scum usually does that. Especially since I think that grack has pretty easy out for a town read on sl earlier. Pretty sure given the interactions silver/sl is not a team. Maybe I'm just mega tunneled but I'm also running out of places to look, I'm in an sl/sharkie world right now. I dunno, I don't have the same issue of grack/sl not being a team. SL has played an incredibly low-effort game and pretty much everyone and their mom has scumread him. It'd be difficult for Grack to get any mission in with SL on it so there's not much harm done by bussing him. Plus, if thread sentiment changes, he can change his position too anyway. I'm not sure where you're going with the mission 3/4 thing regarding SL. Could you explain that a bit further? Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 20:38 Vivax wrote:
Can't be in a sharkie world without rtanisoul in it tbh.
If this fails I'm ride or die sharkie + rtanisoul I'm glad we got tunnelvivax back.
Yeah that's true regarding grack / sl.
I'll explain what I was thinking:
Attempt 3 (team I proposed) the issues that sl was raising were:
- the leader not on the team
- no grack on the team
- silver on the team (strong (est) scum read from super)
Some things about attempt 4 (vivax's team):
- leader not on team
- silver on team
- sharkie on team (also strong scum read from super)
His whole point for yay voting vivax's team was that he didn't want silver's team to be auto-picked since it was his strongest scum read. That + I suppose grack is on the team now, his strongest town read. But I don't see the logic (maybe sl will help here) with voting a team with your strongest scum read versus let that person pick the team. Actually the had his two strongest scum reads at that time (as I recall). Like this team for him should be auto-fail, so I can't see why he would approve it. #justslthings 
Scum motivation that I see is to pass a team with at least 1 scum on it knowing he's ostracized in any case if team mate decides to fail; and in the present case he can give an easy town read to any of the members on the team (i.e., silver or sharkie who he was previously scum reading) cause they are now part of a team that succeeded in passing a mission.
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On February 07 2017 23:49 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 23:45 Silverika wrote:
in short (ika here):
sharkie voting no when the only person he suspects on this team is vivax makes no sense form a towns POV. a town!sharkie should of voted yes on this to confirm vivax as scum/town (becasue scum!vivax would be forced to sabbo this or next mission where as twon!viv with town!shrakie is auto win)
so basically if this mission is sabboed, sharkie is the spy who did it You people keep using this logic and it doesn't work because it presumes that people have 100% townreads on the other people in the mission AND it presumes that failing a mission to identify a spy is worth it. Even if he was 100% on both you and grack, look at it from his situation. If vivax is mafia, he learns that Vivax is mafia whilst the rest of the thread (given thread sentiment) all believe HE is the spy. He knows Vivax is mafia but it doesn't help him in the slightest because he cannot convince the rest of the game of it. A mission is failed and a townie is left out of any further consideration, a disastrous result.
To be fair I think this is the correct analysis. I realized it my self after pushing for tumble to be on my team that it's actually a pretty backwards way of thinking. Think in the future should just push to have people that you think are all town. MAYBE on like the 4th team or something, but I dunno if it makes sense for the first team of the round.
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On February 08 2017 00:06 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 23:58 Silverika wrote:On February 07 2017 23:54 sharkie wrote:On February 07 2017 23:54 Silverika wrote:On February 07 2017 23:49 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 07 2017 23:45 Silverika wrote:
in short (ika here):
sharkie voting no when the only person he suspects on this team is vivax makes no sense form a towns POV. a town!sharkie should of voted yes on this to confirm vivax as scum/town (becasue scum!vivax would be forced to sabbo this or next mission where as twon!viv with town!shrakie is auto win)
so basically if this mission is sabboed, sharkie is the spy who did it You people keep using this logic and it doesn't work because it presumes that people have 100% townreads on the other people in the mission AND it presumes that failing a mission to identify a spy is worth it. Even if he was 100% on both you and grack, look at it from his situation. If vivax is mafia, he learns that Vivax is mafia whilst the rest of the thread (given thread sentiment) all believe HE is the spy. He knows Vivax is mafia but it doesn't help him in the slightest because he cannot convince the rest of the game of it. A mission is failed and a townie is left out of any further consideration, a disastrous result. you start with false premises and you end with wrong conclusions. grack town read vivax and has a record of it and vice versa so FMPOV and many other IMO they would have to argue one of two cases a) both are scum b) one is fooling the other thats only in the scum!vivax world cus thats seems to be your angle What do you mean grack "has a record of it"? reading vivax right Please tell me you have more things to back you up except past games... Because that is the worst proof you can have for social deduction games... Also what is wifom?
wine in front of me : google princess bride also
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fuck now i want to watch the princess bride again
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@ sharkie: who is scum for you right now?
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On February 08 2017 01:07 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2017 01:06 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 08 2017 01:05 Superbia wrote:On February 08 2017 01:04 RtaniSoul wrote:
I can't help but townread Grack as there's no spy motivation for breaking the chain circlejerk vivax and sharkie had going on me and sharkie.
Guess that makes Vivax the spy then. Cool beans. Then one between and EC has to be a spy. Since I feel EC has generally been more appeasing and contributed more to the thread, it clearly means you're the townie. Also, why is one of you two spy if Vivax is? Else you can't explain vote #4.
Hmm you're gonna need to put your logic down here. Think you end up assuming that silver is scum in this scenario? Unless we're getting into some really crazy ideas.
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On February 08 2017 01:26 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2017 01:22 emperorchampion wrote:On February 08 2017 01:07 Superbia wrote:On February 08 2017 01:06 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 08 2017 01:05 Superbia wrote:On February 08 2017 01:04 RtaniSoul wrote:
I can't help but townread Grack as there's no spy motivation for breaking the chain circlejerk vivax and sharkie had going on me and sharkie.
Guess that makes Vivax the spy then. Cool beans. Then one between and EC has to be a spy. Since I feel EC has generally been more appeasing and contributed more to the thread, it clearly means you're the townie. Also, why is one of you two spy if Vivax is? Else you can't explain vote #4. Hmm you're gonna need to put your logic down here. Think you end up assuming that silver is scum in this scenario? Unless we're getting into some really crazy ideas. In my world one of the original three in the team are always scum. A less likely alternative is that you are scum and two of your team mates fucked up, or felt like they -HAD- to go with the flow. In that world vivax is always mafia with you.
OK so pretty sure that vivax and I are never team mates then lol
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On February 08 2017 01:32 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2017 01:26 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 08 2017 01:20 Grackaroni wrote:On February 08 2017 01:10 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also, Grack, why am I mafia? You've created a scenario in which I could be a spy with Vivax based on how the votes went but there's no actual arguments for why I'm mafia in there. It just makes sense for me as a plausible explanation for the vote count on the first mission. My 2 premises I got from reading through the thread this morning were that sharkie is town and Silver is town. From there I need Vivax to be mafia because this mission passed. But the first mission is very unlikely to go through if the scum team is Vivax + 2 people who aren't being town read (Say Sicklucker/EC). Things would make a lot more sense for me if the team was You/Vivax, because you both could reasonably approve the mission as scum knowing that it won't cost you the game in this scenario. What I don't understand is that I've been saying pretty much the same as sharkie as well as a lot of other things, yet you don't townread me. Why? I do follow your logic on why it doesn't make sense for a spy to vote for the first one if it was clean unless they have a good presence. One explanation I see is that if it didn't go through, silver would get a mission and it'd auto pass and silver's reads did not include scum for his choices. Another would be that at least this way they can get cred for voting for a passed mission. I'm town reading sharkie because I think he's done a few things that I wouldn't except to see out of a new mafia player. That's obviously not the case for you. The bold is actually really interesting though because I remember Silver had you as his top town read. So that's actually possible. In this case scum! Vivax would still have to have been unable to add any of his teammates to the team though.
Wait, isn't that asking (as a spy) to have two failed missions? Since the next person in line is going to pick an all resistance team as well. I think Vivax would just add himself instead of sharkie, that team would have likely passed. Pretty sure that's a better option unless in this world vivax is going for some solo carry strat with sl/tw as his team mates.
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On February 08 2017 01:45 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2017 01:41 emperorchampion wrote:On February 08 2017 01:32 Grackaroni wrote:On February 08 2017 01:26 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 08 2017 01:20 Grackaroni wrote:On February 08 2017 01:10 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also, Grack, why am I mafia? You've created a scenario in which I could be a spy with Vivax based on how the votes went but there's no actual arguments for why I'm mafia in there. It just makes sense for me as a plausible explanation for the vote count on the first mission. My 2 premises I got from reading through the thread this morning were that sharkie is town and Silver is town. From there I need Vivax to be mafia because this mission passed. But the first mission is very unlikely to go through if the scum team is Vivax + 2 people who aren't being town read (Say Sicklucker/EC). Things would make a lot more sense for me if the team was You/Vivax, because you both could reasonably approve the mission as scum knowing that it won't cost you the game in this scenario. What I don't understand is that I've been saying pretty much the same as sharkie as well as a lot of other things, yet you don't townread me. Why? I do follow your logic on why it doesn't make sense for a spy to vote for the first one if it was clean unless they have a good presence. One explanation I see is that if it didn't go through, silver would get a mission and it'd auto pass and silver's reads did not include scum for his choices. Another would be that at least this way they can get cred for voting for a passed mission. I'm town reading sharkie because I think he's done a few things that I wouldn't except to see out of a new mafia player. That's obviously not the case for you. The bold is actually really interesting though because I remember Silver had you as his top town read. So that's actually possible. In this case scum! Vivax would still have to have been unable to add any of his teammates to the team though. Wait, isn't that asking (as a spy) to have two failed missions? Since the next person in line is going to pick an all resistance team as well. I think Vivax would just add himself instead of sharkie, that team would have likely passed. Pretty sure that's a better option unless in this world vivax is going for some solo carry strat with sl/tw as his team mates. I think Vivax wouldn't send himself because he made such a big deal out of how bad it was that everyone else was adding themselves to their teams. The only thing that worries me right now is that I've never seen what Silverika's scum play looks like.
Mmm that's a fair point, I would have voted yay anyways though. I think a few people asked to put him in.
I think the only people's scum games that I have seen are yours and sl's, and last time you had me hook, line and sinker...
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On February 08 2017 02:37 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2017 00:29 emperorchampion wrote:
@ sharkie: who is scum for you right now? At the moment? You or TL/vivax/SL You got better in my standing but I still cannot shake that uneasy feeling from your team nomination... Also Super, welcome back to the game I guess?
Why me or tumble?
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On February 08 2017 03:43 Silverika wrote:
Also silverwolf wants Arby's does anyone have a suggestion for food?
(She's gonna be annoyed at me for this post)
Arby's has things other than curly fries??
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On February 08 2017 16:44 sharkie wrote:
So the mission failed after all.
Now before we even knew if the mission was going to fail we had our two prominent nayvoters EC and super appear back into the game and post as if it were day one.
For me that is way too big a coincidence to happen for both players. Sure I know I am the prime suspect of a spy for pretty much everyone in this game but neither of them posted that much after the first mission was approved and sent out (with me in the team). They only started talking so much when the 4man team was approved. Now of course they will cry vote analysis for this reason but my counter to that is they nayvoted the previous 3 man team too and yet they did not bother to cause such an uproar at that time.
So EC, super: tell us why the 4 man team bothered you so much but the 3 man team you let pass quite easily without much rejections?
Also I think SL and TW are still owing us explanations for yayvoting the 4man team although the team had people they accuse of being a spy.
I don't even about this...
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On February 08 2017 16:54 RtaniSoul wrote:Trying to do some VCA right now. The colours aren't related to alignment but based on patterns of voting. Most people vote fairly similarly, just EC, sharkie and superbia have stuck out. Votes: Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 07:05 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of RtaniSoul, Silverika, Superbia has been rejected.
Votes for: sharkie, Silverika.
Votes against: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sicklucker, Superbia, Tumblewood, Vivax.
Calix did not vote (counted as reject).
Calix has been warned for not voting.
Team Leader Tumblewood will now make Attempt #2 to nominate a team for Mission #1. The nomination will be locked Sunday, Jan 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in .
Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 07:00 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of Grackaroni, Tumblewood, Vivax has been rejected.
Votes for: Tumblewood.
Votes against: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Silverika, Superbia, Vivax.
Calix did not vote (counted as reject).
Calix has been replaced be emperorchampion.
Team Leader emperorchampion will now make Attempt #3 to nominate a team for Mission #1. The nomination will be locked Tuesday, Jan 31 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in .
Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 07:00 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of Silverika, Superbia, Tumblewood has been rejected.
Votes for: emperorchampion, Silverika.
Votes against: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Superbia, Vivax.
Tumblewood did not vote (counted as reject).
Tumblewood has been warned for not voting.
Team Leader Vivax will now make Attempt #4 to nominate a team for Mission #1. The nomination will be locked Thursday, Feb 02 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in . Show nested quote +On February 04 2017 07:00 disformation wrote:
The team consisting of Grackaroni, sharkie, Silverika has been approved.
Votes for: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Silverika, Tumblewood, Vivax.
Votes against: emperorchampion, Superbia.
The team will now embark on the mission. If there are any spies on the mission team, they may sabotage the mission by PM to all hosts with ##sabotage.
Deadline/Mission results on Saturday, Feb 04 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Show nested quote +On February 07 2017 07:00 Rels wrote:
The team consisting of Grackaroni, sharkie, Silverika, Vivax has been approved.
Votes for: Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sicklucker, Silverika, Tumblewood, Vivax.
Votes against: emperorchampion, sharkie, Superbia.
The team will now embark on the mission. If there are any spies on the mission team, they may sabotage the mission by PM to all hosts with ##sabotage.
Deadline/Mission results on Tuesday, Feb 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Superbia, why have you voted against every single team so far? EC, can you take us through your vote process? Tumble, what would you have voted on attempt 3 of mission 1 if you were there?
Thoughts at the time:
mission 1, attempt 3: vote yay because my team, maybe tumble is scum -- can look to him if fails
mission 1, attempt 4: vote nay because sharkie is maybe scum, and previous logic is bad
mission 2, attempt 1: vote nay because based off of vca there is at least 1 scum on the 3 man team
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On February 08 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:
I think EC is a spy because he never takes a hard stand on anything. Most of his comments are very blendy and he doesn't stick out on anything.
Rtani Soul is very Town. Not only because of the amount of analysis in the game, but the tone of the posting, the level of frustration, and they make no sense as scum with anyone on the failed mission.
I thought Grack would never fail a mission with sharkie there to take the fall but I'm gonna stop using this kind of stuff to analyze and actually filter dive grack more. There are things from sharkie and Vivax that look pretty Town so I can't write either of them off as spies.
Also, I want to look at that old resistance game so many of you were in. Will do this in a little bit-filter dive grack and look at that game.
~SilverWolf77
Hmm your first two sentences are false. I stood up for my initial team, I stood up against 1 scum on the initial 3, I stood up for super as town, now I'm pretty sure that vivax is town. just nobody cared when the first mission passed, until the second one failed.
On February 08 2017 21:54 RtaniSoul wrote:
EC, who do you currently think is mafia?
ugh fuck, vivax looks like town to me, same with super still. You're maybe town, unfortunately. sharkie thinking vivax is mafia is logical to me, but I don't see vivax as scum here. silver still town. between sharkie and grack, grack probably town. I didn't really like his crazy theory of rtani and vivax. I can see the basis, but I think it's more likely grack mafia then rtani/vivax.
hmm sl I kinda liked his list. I think it's right to exclude grack/sharkie, but I don't trust sl himself. His game position is such that he can just sack himself on the next mission. I think I'm still rolling with sharkie/sl/ +1. +1 is probably tumble, with a pretty outside chance of rtani. sharkie is maaaybe grack, but I think the others are less likely imo.
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I'll be travelling over the weekend, but can probably follow along a bit on mobile
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Me/super/silver/vivax will go blow up some bridges
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On February 10 2017 00:19 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2017 21:41 emperorchampion wrote:On February 08 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:
I think EC is a spy because he never takes a hard stand on anything. Most of his comments are very blendy and he doesn't stick out on anything.
Rtani Soul is very Town. Not only because of the amount of analysis in the game, but the tone of the posting, the level of frustration, and they make no sense as scum with anyone on the failed mission.
I thought Grack would never fail a mission with sharkie there to take the fall but I'm gonna stop using this kind of stuff to analyze and actually filter dive grack more. There are things from sharkie and Vivax that look pretty Town so I can't write either of them off as spies.
Also, I want to look at that old resistance game so many of you were in. Will do this in a little bit-filter dive grack and look at that game.
~SilverWolf77
Hmm your first two sentences are false. I stood up for my initial team, I stood up against 1 scum on the initial 3, I stood up for super as town, now I'm pretty sure that vivax is town. just nobody cared when the first mission passed, until the second one failed. On February 08 2017 21:54 RtaniSoul wrote:
EC, who do you currently think is mafia? ugh fuck, vivax looks like town to me, same with super still. You're maybe town, unfortunately. sharkie thinking vivax is mafia is logical to me, but I don't see vivax as scum here. silver still town. between sharkie and grack, grack probably town. I didn't really like his crazy theory of rtani and vivax. I can see the basis, but I think it's more likely grack mafia then rtani/vivax. hmm sl I kinda liked his list. I think it's right to exclude grack/sharkie, but I don't trust sl himself. His game position is such that he can just sack himself on the next mission. I think I'm still rolling with sharkie/sl/ +1. +1 is probably tumble, with a pretty outside chance of rtani. sharkie is maaaybe grack, but I think the others are less likely imo. It is very difficult for me not to call you mafia for believing we're "maybe town" when Vivax said we're an easy townread. Vivax. Vivax.
Great so that makes me scum because....
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On February 10 2017 00:53 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 00:47 emperorchampion wrote:On February 10 2017 00:19 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 09 2017 21:41 emperorchampion wrote:On February 08 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:
I think EC is a spy because he never takes a hard stand on anything. Most of his comments are very blendy and he doesn't stick out on anything.
Rtani Soul is very Town. Not only because of the amount of analysis in the game, but the tone of the posting, the level of frustration, and they make no sense as scum with anyone on the failed mission.
I thought Grack would never fail a mission with sharkie there to take the fall but I'm gonna stop using this kind of stuff to analyze and actually filter dive grack more. There are things from sharkie and Vivax that look pretty Town so I can't write either of them off as spies.
Also, I want to look at that old resistance game so many of you were in. Will do this in a little bit-filter dive grack and look at that game.
~SilverWolf77
Hmm your first two sentences are false. I stood up for my initial team, I stood up against 1 scum on the initial 3, I stood up for super as town, now I'm pretty sure that vivax is town. just nobody cared when the first mission passed, until the second one failed. On February 08 2017 21:54 RtaniSoul wrote:
EC, who do you currently think is mafia? ugh fuck, vivax looks like town to me, same with super still. You're maybe town, unfortunately. sharkie thinking vivax is mafia is logical to me, but I don't see vivax as scum here. silver still town. between sharkie and grack, grack probably town. I didn't really like his crazy theory of rtani and vivax. I can see the basis, but I think it's more likely grack mafia then rtani/vivax. hmm sl I kinda liked his list. I think it's right to exclude grack/sharkie, but I don't trust sl himself. His game position is such that he can just sack himself on the next mission. I think I'm still rolling with sharkie/sl/ +1. +1 is probably tumble, with a pretty outside chance of rtani. sharkie is maaaybe grack, but I think the others are less likely imo. It is very difficult for me not to call you mafia for believing we're "maybe town" when Vivax said we're an easy townread. Vivax. Vivax. Great so that makes me scum because.... Three reasons: + Show Spoiler +vanity, narcissism and ego
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Sorry all had a hell of a last few days
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gg wp all
apologies for the afk periods
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