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On February 07 2017 03:05 Superbia wrote: I always tend to think scum votes split up. But blind votes kinda make that irrelevant I guess. Mmm I don't really see reason why they should here though What happened to your early theories / reads of "game solved"? | ||
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On February 07 2017 07:20 Superbia wrote: The fucking math play!? You mean the meth play. I had a post detailing why the original 3 had a mafia in them like super likely. Straight from the votes. loooool | ||
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On February 07 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote: You won't get anywhere just with vote analysis. It's too easy to tamper with. According to vote analysis one would conclude rtanisoul is town just cause they nay-voted a team with themselves on it. ugh this is where I feel like I'm at right now | ||
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On February 07 2017 19:27 Superbia wrote: Incorrect. Vote #4 says a lot because it has such a stark contrast to all other votes so far. Especially for me since I know at least 2 mafia voted yet on the team. I mean I would say we are both certain that there's mafia on the mission 1 team. Pretty much only other option is that mafia concedes. Given that vivax seemingly wants to pin it on sharkie, and vice versa, I don't think they are team mates. If that was the case I think that vivax would look more to grack, likewise with sharkie. | ||
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On February 07 2017 19:48 Superbia wrote: Welp I like grack as the mafia. Hmm I looked into grack but I'm not sure. Look at these posts: On February 05 2017 15:48 Grackaroni wrote: Ok I might be slightly stupid, but I swear this mission is going to fail. This game is way too easy right now. And the spy isn't Vivax. It's one of Silver/sharkie. On February 07 2017 03:13 Grackaroni wrote: my team makes sense to me. I'm pretty sure the next mission is going to fail. Silverika is too indignant to be scum. Vivax is actually coming up with a lot of thought out scum pairings without trying too hard to be town read. Plus he said right off the bat that Silver/I aren't scum, which is a good thing from my perspective. Tumblewood/Artanis are both like "I think Grack could definitely be scum here. Full steam ahead guys!" ##Accept. Plus Tumblewood is super blendy while Rtanisoul seems to mainly be trying to buddy Silver. Everyone else seems to be showing at least some level of skepticism over the team. I think we are (were) at similar points in this game. Another issue with grack as scum for me, is that when I look at sl's play it completely turned at mission 1. I'm thinking through if sl passes mission 1 for a town read on either sharkie/silver. If you look at all the reasons that he fails attempt 3 vs attempt 4: it's grack not on the team, leader not on the team, and not silver nominating VS silver on the team anyways, sharkie on the team, and leader still not on team. I don't see how town sl votes down my team by votes up vivax's team, so sl as scum conditions my read on grack as well. Also given this: On February 04 2017 01:21 Grackaroni wrote: Right now I see the game in terms of 3 groups (listed in no particular order): The definite town: Grackaroni Silverika The townie feels Artanisoul Vivax Sharkie The people without townie feels Emperorchampion The one of these two is scum group Tumblewood Superbia The definite scum Sicklucker I still think at least one of Super/Tumble will be red. Don't see grack/sl, putting his team mate at the bottom, don't think scum usually does that. Especially since I think that grack has pretty easy out for a town read on sl earlier. Pretty sure given the interactions silver/sl is not a team. Maybe I'm just mega tunneled but I'm also running out of places to look, I'm in an sl/sharkie world right now. | ||
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On February 07 2017 20:09 Superbia wrote: It kind of sucks that this mission is essentially wasted, information wise. Meh maybe not, if it does fail we have extra day of talk time. | ||
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On February 07 2017 20:44 RtaniSoul wrote: I dunno, I don't have the same issue of grack/sl not being a team. SL has played an incredibly low-effort game and pretty much everyone and their mom has scumread him. It'd be difficult for Grack to get any mission in with SL on it so there's not much harm done by bussing him. Plus, if thread sentiment changes, he can change his position too anyway. I'm not sure where you're going with the mission 3/4 thing regarding SL. Could you explain that a bit further? I'm glad we got tunnelvivax back. Yeah that's true regarding grack / sl. I'll explain what I was thinking: Attempt 3 (team I proposed) the issues that sl was raising were: - the leader not on the team - no grack on the team - silver on the team (strong (est) scum read from super) Some things about attempt 4 (vivax's team): - leader not on team - silver on team - sharkie on team (also strong scum read from super) His whole point for yay voting vivax's team was that he didn't want silver's team to be auto-picked since it was his strongest scum read. That + I suppose grack is on the team now, his strongest town read. But I don't see the logic (maybe sl will help here) with voting a team with your strongest scum read versus let that person pick the team. Actually the had his two strongest scum reads at that time (as I recall). Like this team for him should be auto-fail, so I can't see why he would approve it. #justslthings  Scum motivation that I see is to pass a team with at least 1 scum on it knowing he's ostracized in any case if team mate decides to fail; and in the present case he can give an easy town read to any of the members on the team (i.e., silver or sharkie who he was previously scum reading) cause they are now part of a team that succeeded in passing a mission. | ||
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On February 07 2017 23:49 RtaniSoul wrote: You people keep using this logic and it doesn't work because it presumes that people have 100% townreads on the other people in the mission AND it presumes that failing a mission to identify a spy is worth it. Even if he was 100% on both you and grack, look at it from his situation. If vivax is mafia, he learns that Vivax is mafia whilst the rest of the thread (given thread sentiment) all believe HE is the spy. He knows Vivax is mafia but it doesn't help him in the slightest because he cannot convince the rest of the game of it. A mission is failed and a townie is left out of any further consideration, a disastrous result. To be fair I think this is the correct analysis. I realized it my self after pushing for tumble to be on my team that it's actually a pretty backwards way of thinking. Think in the future should just push to have people that you think are all town. MAYBE on like the 4th team or something, but I dunno if it makes sense for the first team of the round. | ||
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On February 08 2017 00:06 sharkie wrote: Please tell me you have more things to back you up except past games... Because that is the worst proof you can have for social deduction games... Also what is wifom? wine in front of me : google princess bride also | ||
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Hmm you're gonna need to put your logic down here. Think you end up assuming that silver is scum in this scenario? Unless we're getting into some really crazy ideas. | ||
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On February 08 2017 01:26 Superbia wrote: In my world one of the original three in the team are always scum. A less likely alternative is that you are scum and two of your team mates fucked up, or felt like they -HAD- to go with the flow. In that world vivax is always mafia with you. OK so pretty sure that vivax and I are never team mates then lol | ||
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On February 08 2017 01:32 Grackaroni wrote: I'm town reading sharkie because I think he's done a few things that I wouldn't except to see out of a new mafia player. That's obviously not the case for you. The bold is actually really interesting though because I remember Silver had you as his top town read. So that's actually possible. In this case scum! Vivax would still have to have been unable to add any of his teammates to the team though. Wait, isn't that asking (as a spy) to have two failed missions? Since the next person in line is going to pick an all resistance team as well. I think Vivax would just add himself instead of sharkie, that team would have likely passed. Pretty sure that's a better option unless in this world vivax is going for some solo carry strat with sl/tw as his team mates. | ||
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On February 08 2017 01:45 Grackaroni wrote: I think Vivax wouldn't send himself because he made such a big deal out of how bad it was that everyone else was adding themselves to their teams. The only thing that worries me right now is that I've never seen what Silverika's scum play looks like. Mmm that's a fair point, I would have voted yay anyways though. I think a few people asked to put him in. I think the only people's scum games that I have seen are yours and sl's, and last time you had me hook, line and sinker... | ||
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On February 08 2017 02:37 sharkie wrote: At the moment? You or TL/vivax/SL You got better in my standing but I still cannot shake that uneasy feeling from your team nomination... Also Super, welcome back to the game I guess? Why me or tumble? | ||
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On February 08 2017 03:43 Silverika wrote: Also silverwolf wants Arby's does anyone have a suggestion for food? (She's gonna be annoyed at me for this post) Arby's has things other than curly fries?? | ||
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On February 08 2017 16:44 sharkie wrote: So the mission failed after all. Now before we even knew if the mission was going to fail we had our two prominent nayvoters EC and super appear back into the game and post as if it were day one. For me that is way too big a coincidence to happen for both players. Sure I know I am the prime suspect of a spy for pretty much everyone in this game but neither of them posted that much after the first mission was approved and sent out (with me in the team). They only started talking so much when the 4man team was approved. Now of course they will cry vote analysis for this reason but my counter to that is they nayvoted the previous 3 man team too and yet they did not bother to cause such an uproar at that time. So EC, super: tell us why the 4 man team bothered you so much but the 3 man team you let pass quite easily without much rejections? Also I think SL and TW are still owing us explanations for yayvoting the 4man team although the team had people they accuse of being a spy. I don't even about this... | ||
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