EPTI mean in you guys views.
But if I had to guess percentages I'd say
silver 50%
Grack 40%
me 10%
From my perspective I am obviously 100% resistance haha (no duh).
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I mean in you guys views. But if I had to guess percentages I'd say silver 50% Grack 40% me 10% From my perspective I am obviously 100% resistance haha (no duh). | ||
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On the selection of the 4th team member for the next team I'd rather want RTani on the team than Vivax. I trust him more and imo he has also done more for the play so he feels more resistance for me. Vivax is still a little weird for me as he has been accepted resistance too easily by too many people (so including spies) and I did not like that he did not send himself to the mission as I am a player who always sends himself to a mission - anyone who doesn't is kinda shady in my eyes. Also EC/Super are confirmed spies for me now as they did not like the passed mission. | ||
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On February 05 2017 21:35 emperorchampion wrote: 1. This + vivacious logic is pretty solid I think on grack/silver so bump up to grack there 2. You were on vivax team, why would you approve if you feel weird about him not including himself? That's easy. It had three resistance guys on it and none of my suspects for spies. On February 05 2017 21:27 Vivax wrote: In other words, we can afford to use the next mission to put someone in who needs to be cleared of being spy as not sabotaging it only gives them one more attempt and we can expect that no spy in their right mind will let this pass. On the other hand if sharkie was spy and didn't sabotage #1 they will attempt to frame the newcomer in#2 of being spy if it gets sabotaged. But it might turn up to be a bad plan so I'm leaving it up to you. I'm fine with both options. Oh so it has turned out to be that if we get a fail and the team is silver/grack/sharkie/vivax -> sharkie is the spy and if the team is silver/grack/vivax/RT -> RT is the spy? You make it very easy for you heh. Really starting to think SL is a good guy accused wrongly. | ||
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On February 06 2017 01:56 Silverika wrote: I get the point sharkie is making that vivax is setting up a scenario where he can frame Rtani Soul and fail the mission but my counter to that is, he could just leave it as is, and fail it and blame sharkie. So I don't think it's that cut and dry and Vivax is suddenly pulling out all the stops as a spy. I think Rtani Soul not liking the Vivax, Grack, us, them is a little more suspect because they'd have a hard time failing it if they are a spy, with this team because they wouldn't have sharkie to blame and they'd have a tough time blaming anyone else if it failed. ~SilverWolf77 You can't really use that as counter as Vivax would be in the team if his suggestion is followed or not... He has nothing to lose there. All he does is causing confusion and setting up more unknown variables we really don't need. I'd just feel way safer if RT was in the team than vivax. I don't share the same feeling as you and RT do about him. But on the other hand I don't think Grack is worthy of suspicion (RT's thoughts) just because vivax is covering him. On February 06 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote: why do you think town would definitely accept the mission? Because 2/3 are big resistance possibilities? Did Super ever explain why he voted nay on this mission? | ||
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I hope there are some discussions and not just namecalling and gifs.. | ||
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On February 07 2017 03:13 Grackaroni wrote: my team makes sense to me. I'm pretty sure the next mission is going to fail. Silverika is too indignant to be scum. Vivax is actually coming up with a lot of thought out scum pairings without trying too hard to be town read. Plus he said right off the bat that Silver/I aren't scum, which is a good thing from my perspective. Tumblewood/Artanis are both like "I think Grack could definitely be scum here. Full steam ahead guys!" ##Accept. Plus Tumblewood is super blendy while Rtanisoul seems to mainly be trying to buddy Silver. Everyone else seems to be showing at least some level of skepticism over the team. I know that is not your main message but could we all please stop accusing other people of spies JUST BECAUSE THEY ACCUSE YOU? Also just because someone calls you resistance DOES NOT MEAN that they are not spies... Sheesh. | ||
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On February 07 2017 03:33 Grackaroni wrote: If I think the mission is going to fail it makes sense for me to look at the people who don't seen to be putting very much thought into upvoting the mission but are poised to put the blame for the failure on me afterwards. And a good spy would try to come on your good side wouldn't he? Generally speaking I have always been suspect of players agreeing with each other too much. Resistance don't know anything. There should never be a circumstance where two players should be acting like best buddies (unless they know each other as spies). | ||
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On February 07 2017 03:41 Superbia wrote: Wow what an asshole. You keep calling people names and are surprised why people don't want to consider you resistance? -.- | ||
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Why do some of you give vivax bonus points for not choosing himself when it was his turn to nominate? When someone chooses a full resistance setup in the very first mission without choosing himself (a noble thing - this I agree with but also suspicious) wouldn't he automatically qualify himself as the guy who is going to join the mission in the second mission? Things like these confuse me why vivax has jumped so far up in some people's eyes... Super earlier asked me why I can be so straightforward when playing resistance before. But that (vivax scenario) line of thinking is way too straightforward too in my opinion... | ||
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1) So you guys spent days and hours downvoting the first mission teams in order to get information for a usually not vital mission. But the first opportunity to get real information about who the spies are (if all resistance players had downvoted this mission we could have seen whether the spies voted FOR this mission as they desperately need this mission to fail to have any chance at this game) -> I thought this was the reason some of you even suggested the hidden voting in the first place (I am looking at you, silver and SL...)? I really have no clue how you guys play resistance... 2) Also why did TW and SL approve this mission? RT is kinda obvious as the team was his top4 resistance guys. But TW, SL keep saying how there is a spy in this team and yet they keep voting yay for these teams? 3) Is motivation so low that you just want to end this game as fast as possible? If so, why for god's sake did you then keep downvoting the first mission? Couldn't we have just passed the very first team (as silver and I had suggested), look at how it turns out and THEN play the fun downvoting game for the second mission which is far more important in the game than the first? I really thought most of you have participated in this game in order to have a fun game but I keep reading things like "I hope the game is over soon." or "I don't want to play this game anymore). Well the fastest way to end this game is just to put up our most potential suspects into the team and then the game is over. I am so fed up with your attitudes. If you don't like playing the game, then just keep voting yay, don't comment at all and we will soon have a conclusion. And please stop mentioning you want this game to end, I really mean it. I am fed up reading the same negativity over and over.... 4) On February 07 2017 10:44 Silverika wrote: I do want to know a good reason why sharkie said no here. He seems to be scumreading Vivax but his reason that Vivax kept himself off the team isn't scummy and was explained to him why it's not scum by at least a couple people. Not only that, but if he believes Vivax is scum and us and Grack are town, this would of been a good opportunity for him to find out for sure in his POV. I never said that vivax is not resistance nor that his actions mean that he is a spy. All I said was that your conclusions are not 100% sound. Any good spy could do the same thing vivax did so why is he automatically resistance? He is neutral leaning towards good for me, has been all game for me. | ||
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On February 07 2017 17:01 Superbia wrote: You guys do understand that we would have an endgame post if this team was all town, right? You make no sense? This is the second mission,not the third. | ||
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On February 07 2017 17:54 Vivax wrote: This seems like a good day been reading a bunch of stuff that stirred me up but I'll start adressing all of it when I see the mission outcome and it's a failure. If it fails tho rtanisoul + sharkie is a given. I don't see how anyone would not think that sharkie was spy if mission 1 failed, so all the explanations for swika being town besides that one are superflous and the fact they refuse to townread Grack also speaks volumes as he is their only out from scumreading sharkie. Have you even read my posts at all? I put Grack onto my 100% resistance list. Do you refuse to read my posts or you do keep leaving out things intentionally? Also why wait for the mission outcome? Just address them now. | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:01 Vivax wrote: That's not a good point two spies on a mission is a good strat as people tend to assume only one person is to blame, for simplicity's sake. Accusing two people on the same team at the same time is hard to do. This is one of the things that bothered me, and also why it bothered me that rtanisoul wanted to sub in for me as opposed to my suggestion that they sub in for sharkie. On February 07 2017 18:11 Vivax wrote: How does that make any sense? If you knew you were resistance and had doubts on sharkie like I do, being in a rtanisoul, vivax, swika, grack team would guarantee a win, in your book. Instead you counter proposed that we put you in alongside sharkie. And why don't you want to acknowledge that Grack isn't spy as he could easily have failed the first mission with sharkie being the obvious blame dumpster. So spies are smart enough to put two of them into the team but not smart enough to delay failing a mission in order to put even more blame on me? Like you said if the first mission passes and the second mission fails the only LOGICAL spy would be me. But gods forsake that spies could use that exact same train of thought you had as their strategy? Are the spies dumb or smart? You need to stick to one scenario... I don't see how one thing can be a "good strategy for spies" but the other is "no way spies would not fail the first mission)... You really really make it very easy for you, don't you? Also you seem to be very sure that this mission is going to fail and that I am the spy with RT. So why did you approve the team in the first place? Just send yourself and TW and go for an easy win? | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:22 Vivax wrote: Sharkies last vote is a wifom vote btw (ie he wants to gain cred from it if the mission fails). If it passes, disregard. You make me fume?! I explained earlier why I voted no in this mission! Has nothing to do with anything except gathering information... | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:25 Superbia wrote: Sharkie can you respond to these two points I made? Is "ec and sup are 100% mafia because they voted against the team that passed!" truly what you believed? Yes at that point in time I truly believed that. I still think that one of you is a spy 100%. But that both of you are a spy is very unlikely now. | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:24 Vivax wrote: If you are resistance and think that Grack and Swika are resistance, why did I nominate an all resistance team in the first place? And why should I bother subbing rtanisoul in instead of you when as spy I would suffice? I explained my train of thought yesterday. When you nominate a full resistance team and it passes who do you think the team plus other resistance players will turn to when the next mission requires one further person? Duh, obviously the guy who nominated the good team. Again, I am not saying you are a spy. All I am saying is that you cannot make the spies smart in one post and then dumb the other post again.... To the second question, to increase your credibility? I don't know. Imo your sub doesn't make sense as resistance either if you believe RT/me are a spy team | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:30 Superbia wrote: Okay. I think 100% is unlikely btw. Who do you think is the mafia in the team? Right now? Vivax. He keeps making me repeat points I clearly mentioned before... But ask me again in a few hours when I calmed down. -.- | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:39 Vivax wrote: All RtaniSoul are doing is spreading doubts all over the team and basically the entire game when it's blatantly obvious that sharkie was the most risky in it from the get go, a free invitation to Grack and Swika to make the first team fail and exclude him for the rest of the game. But shouldn't I have known that letting the first mission pass will only INCREASE the suspicion of me when a team with me is going to fail afterwards? Since as you said if grack/silver had been spies they would have just failed to put the whole blame on me. Passing the first mission puts Grack/Silver higher on everyone's list but my status stays the same. I really don't get how you are thinking. | ||
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On February 07 2017 18:46 Superbia wrote: Silver is only ever mafia if EC is mafia. On a separate note, I don't think Silver is mafia. What would be the team you would have sent out for this mission? Super/Silver/x/y Who are x and y? | ||
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