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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-12 18:59:06
November 22 2016 21:33 GMT
#1
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Hosts:
  • Shapelog
  • Shared account: Irresistible Object
  • Rels
  • Calix
  • Artanis
  • Cakepie
  • Onegu


Voting Thread:
  • Voting Thread


Important notes
  • Day 1
  • Night 1
  • Day 2
  • Night 2
  • Day 3
  • Night 3
  • Day 4


+ Show Spoiler [Introduction] +

Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.

This game will include flavor that is added for fun and effect, but has no impact on game mechanics. The standard rule set for newbie games will be used and follows below.



+ Show Spoiler [Ruleset] +

Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
5. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
6. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
7. Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account.
8. Posting the link to any QT's you have.
9. Night actions must be communicated in the respective OP or sent by PM to me and my cohosts.
10. Anything remotely related to your or anyone else's role PM. Do not talk about it.
11. Any communication outside of the game thread or the given QTs is considered cheating and will be punished severely. Using encryption/codes in any form counts as out of game communication.
12. Actions that are potentially against the spirit of the game (e.g. trying to modconfirm yourself or others) but are not explicitely prohibited must be sent to the host via PM

If you feel that any action you are considering may be against the spirit of the game, it is best to contact a host and ensure it is allowed before proceeding.

Posting:

Host Color:
The color blue is reserved for the hosts of the game to make our posts easy to notice. Please do not use it.

Question Color:
The color green is reserved for questions by players for the hosts. Use it to ask the game hosts questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything. You are only allowed to ask questions in thread pre-game. You have to ask them via PM during the game.

Smurfs:
Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts

Spam:
Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. "Editing" includes indirect editing like linking an image, then editing the image. Editing your profile or signature are allowed, but if you edit them for any game-related reasons (ie, breadcrumbing, sending messages, etc) this will be considered out-of-thread posting and will be punished.

Inappropriate posts and use of the report post link:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL moderation staff or using the report post link. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.

Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.

Out of thread communication:

It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who are not mafia are not allowed to communicate about this game outside of the thread.

Voting rules:

1. Voting is done by posting in the voting thread.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##vote: beentheredonethat. Votes must be in bold, and votes not written in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will tolerate missspelled names but don't be lazy.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself.
5. This game starts with plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone.
6. The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch.
7. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. You can use this game to /sitout a ban.

Replacements
This game uses replacements. I will try to find replacements until the end of day 2.

Clues
There are no clues at the start of the game and will not be so unless change by the hosting staff (see mech.).

PMs
PMs and out of thread communication are not allowed at the start of this game, and will not be so unless change by the hosting staff (see mech.)

Activity
You are expected to keep up with the thread and participate in discussion daily.

If for some reason you anticipate that you will not be available for a period longer than 24 hours, please notify a host ahead of time. If the host deems a player is inactive, they may be warned or removed from the game.

I will look for 3 posts per cycle. Send me a PM if you have real life issues pending.

Time Cycle
This game will start as 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. Any votes after the deadline will not count and the game will be put on hold until the night post is up. The deadline for each cycle will be 21:00 GMT (+00:00) . See setup post for more information on that.



Please make sure you have read the rules and understand them.


Specifics
  • I am a pretty lenient host when it comes to behavior. I understand using quote on quote rude behavior as part of a scum or town strategy. But I will warn/modkill any person who obviously goes over the line (for ex. calling a player "cunt" out of the blue).
  • Any person caught cheating or performing purposeful exploits that damage the nature of the game will be modkilled imminently, and referred to the Ban list.
  • If deadline is reached, and "Please wait" post is posted. Please remain quiet.
  • All Questions must be PMed to hosts after game start.
  • Deadline will be 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
  • Starts as 48h/24h day and night cycles (respectfully)



Signups

Everyone is eligible to play who is not currently banned and who is not on my personal blacklist. I might decline /ins based on personal choice. This is a Bastard game, meaning the game might not/is not suppose to be balance. The game play will be enjoyable, but not necessary balanced.

Signup for the game by posting /in in the thread. It may take several weeks for the game to fill up so you are responsible for being aware when the game begins. I will send PMs asking to confirm (/confirm) when the game is filled.

Player list: Game A
1. Time Traveler Lynched Day 3, Time Traveler!
2. Beentheredonethat
3.Superbia Found Dead, N1, Janitor!"
4. Koshi Was Lynched D1, Noble of Laz, certified and ready to vote (vt)!
5. Alakaslam
6. disformation Nuked Day 5, Palnar Dragoon
7. LightningStrike Killed Night 5, The Head of Jupiter’s Eagles!
8. DarthFoley Died Night 3, Apprentice of the House of Brown.
9. ExO_ Lynched Day 2, Noble of Laz
10. Glowingbear Lynched Day 5, Mecha-cow
11. Grackaroni
12. Mi'lord Chezinu (shadowed by kholly)
13. Tictock

Player list: Game B

1. Time Traveler
2. Superbia
3. ExO_
4. Koshi
5. DarthFoley


+ Show Spoiler [Observers, Replacements, Sitouts] +

Observers:
1. NeverLucky Either
2. Half the amount of people raging at the new dota update
3. Lunatic
4.

Replacements:
  • Hopeless1der



Sitouts:



"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 23:42:10
November 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#2
Mech.



Justice is revenge
-Saad Hariri



Welcome to Host's revenge, the Bastard mafia game where the hosts gets to "modify" the game as it goes on. The game starts as a standard vanilla game (10 vt vs 3 goons) but can quickly turn into a different game, as the hosting staff in their qt will bring up bills. These "bills" are suggested changes to the game, and must receive a majority vote from the hosting staff if deem to be a "Balance" bill or a "punishment" bill. Or just needs the support of one other host if deemed to be a "Poke" bill. Both will need my approval. Every-time a bill gets passed, it will be added to the game either at the end of the current phase (balance bills) or whenever they get resolved (poke/punishment bills) in the qt. Announcements will be made for each bill passing.

This means that the game can evolve into any type of imaginable game. By day 2, town could have a vig that can only shoot 10% of the time, mafia could have a framer, and everyone can talk through PM's to one another.

The hosting staff will consist of 3 or 5 cohosts, with me serving as a tie breaker vote (since hosts that do not vote on a bill in 12 hours will be counted as a abstain) and a checker to make sure no bill is being passed into the wrong category (balance or poke).

The three types of bills:

Balance bills: bills that are deemed to effect the way the game will play out. EX. adding power roles, functions like PMs, forcing the alive players to Hydra up. These will be added to the game when the phase ends (day/night post)

Poke bills: These bills are bills deemed to not effect the way the game will play out, and allows the hosts to "interact" with the game. Ex. Host member posting a gif, funny comment, etc. These will get resolved when they are resolved in the hosting QT

Punishment bills: Piss us off, and you will receive one of these. Punishment bills are changes made to get revenge on a player. Is someone taunting the hosting staff? Punishment bill. Is someone saying the game isn't balance because they cannot read the fact this game is bastard? Punishment bill. Punishments ex: post rescition for 1 phase.

Balance and Punishment bills fail to pass if they do not meet majority of votes. Poke bills fail to pass if two hosts votes against it before one posts Ye.

A counter bill to repeal a previous passed Balance or Punishment bill can occur and will have to go through the same requirements.

Modkills and warnings do not fall under punishment bills.


[NEW! Added D2] Reward bills: Please the gods and you might receive one of these. Reward bills are changes made to, well, reward a player. Duh. Is someone praising the hosting staff? Reward bill. Is someone having a lot of fun with the mad quackery being thrown at them? Reward bill. Gods are fickle, though. Rewards might will probably not be what you asked for or expected. And begging for rewards instead of properly earning them might very well backfire. Be very careful what you wish for!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 23:42:12
November 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#3
Set Up



-48 hour days/24 hour nights at start
-Purility lynch system at start
-10 vt's vs 3 mafia goons at start
-Initial Role PM's will show name of role (lore and mafia wise) and a bit of favor background. Mafia knows what both PM's say.
-Game has no post restrictions at the start of the game
-First* Mafia team wins when Mafia outnumbers or = Townies alive
-First* Town team wins when Mafia is fully out of the game via being lynched.

*= Does not mean that multiple teams exist.


Lore



*Each Day and night post will be posted here:

Day 1:

+ Show Spoiler +
The City of Laz is the crown jewel in the Kingdom of Forge. Its white walls illuminated a sense of purity and justice. Streets booming with gold coins form Laz's salt and sliver mines. Crime, while present, was handled swiftly and with ease. Soilders marched consistently to ensure safety and order. Furthermore, it attracted all sorts of magical beings and wizards due to the Kish, a local landmark of mysterious origins. Its thought commonly, that the Kish brought both luck and wickedness to those around it.

Laz's leaders are the heirs of the late royal king, Erisal, known as the savior of the Renaissance war. A terrible war fought by the Allegiance of Fate (which consisted of the Human, Elevish, and Kraic clans) and the Cult of the Beyond. Radicals Lead by Kruss Blackheart, that fought to bring destruction to the world. The Cult of the Beyond nearly succeed in that mission, but Erisal and his army of 800 lancers fought off the massive hoard in the great battle of Laz. There Erisal ambushed the Cult's forces with a divine weapon before achieving victory by committing his lancers. This single handily was enough to push back the Cult and finally destroyed Kruss, leading to the downfall of the Cult of the Beyond. Erisal was named king shortly after once the Kingdom of the Forge was created. He named Laz, the city where the war turned, to become the new capital of the Kingdom.

Tales of old might not change, but the strings of the present do. After the death of Erisal years ago, His heirs to the throne now led the kingdom. While only those of true blood call themselves heirs, other people such as Erisal's friends also hold influential power.

A power, that will be tested soon.


Night 1:

+ Show Spoiler +
Funny story.

Be here later!


Day 2:

+ Show Spoiler +
Near a end of a normal day in Laz, its citizens would retreat into the privacy of the multiple taverns. Tired after a long day's work, citizens relished in the ability to spend time socializing and enjoying merry times with one another. Nobles were no exception, in fact most owned one tavern or another. For them, it was also a way to show off their wealth and fame, as well as a place to perform under the table business.

Superbia was no exception to this trend among nobles. He owned the Uirm’Belg, a four-star rated tavern, outfitted with some of the best beverages around. Its interior was furnished with a bright cherry wood floor that accented the dark oak walls. The bar counter was made onto of a stone foundation, with a long piece of cherry wood topping it off. Chairs lined the bar counter, ready to be filled with the late night crowd. The Tavern had several booths littered around the room. Other attractions such as a dartboard and a small place for musicians to perform existed as well.

Superbia walked into Uirm’Belg, ready to set up the tavern for the night. He opened the front door after fumbling with his keys for a second. He walked across to the bar, his feet causing the wood to creak with each step.

Suddenly, the door closed behind him. Superbia looked around frantically, trying to make sense of the matter.

“Who..Who's there?” He screamed into the darkness. He waited, his hand reaching for a glass bottle. Nothing but a haunting silence responded.

Superbia shooked his head, and went to reopen the door. The wood creaked again with each step he took. Louder and louder. Superbia paused with terror. The wood continued to creak again. Creak, creak, creak, all angles that was all that could be heard. Creak, creak, creak, almost like the floor head a beating heart beat. The sound, the maddening sound, surrounded Superbia. He started swinging the bottle at all directions. Creak, creak, creak, Superbia cried out for it to end. Creak, creak, creak, Superbia tried to throw the bottle where he thought the sound was coming from. Creak, creak, creak, A sickening scream was emitted from Superbia’s lungs. A burning sensation had overtaken him in his chest. He lost all will to stand anymore. His ears, the only thing left working.

Creak, creak, creak,

Hours later, Superbia was found dead in his inn, the Uirm’Belg, by some guards who were trying to find him for his duty.
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"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 23:44:12
November 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#4
Grand ole list of changes:

-Host QT will be made public after the game is over!
-Onegu is made Cohost!
-Shape can make poke bills
-Superbia has been Smited!
-FEAST
-Introducing loans!
-Barter House!
-Paper Planes!
-Reward Bills!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 22:21:53
November 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#5
I need a lot! of cohosts! I will start by looking for 3 cohosts. I would like experience hosts that do not want to play the game to /cohost, because of the mechs. of this game. Also so I don't have to explain what effects the balance or not all the time.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 22:32:55
November 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#6
Now is the time to ask questions
And tell me how this supposedly wouldn't work/maw in my amazing brilliance
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 23 2016 09:25 GMT
#7
A bastard game as I understood it means you can't trust anything the host says, including whether you're dead or not. Can you tell us a bit more about that?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 23 2016 09:52 GMT
#8
Yeah reading the setup it doesn't seem to be a bastard game. Seems pretty cool though =D
/cohost
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 23 2016 10:08 GMT
#9
I think it is bastard in the sense that Hosts can decide to do wacky stuff / introduce new stuff as they want?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 23 2016 10:13 GMT
#10
On November 23 2016 19:08 disformation wrote:
I think it is bastard in the sense that Hosts can decide to do wacky stuff / introduce new stuff as they want?

So it's not "bastard" in the mafia vocabulary sense. A bastard game is a game where it's possible that stuff that host says might not be true.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 23 2016 10:14 GMT
#11
On November 23 2016 19:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2016 19:08 disformation wrote:
I think it is bastard in the sense that Hosts can decide to do wacky stuff / introduce new stuff as they want?

So it's not "bastard" in the mafia vocabulary sense. A bastard game is a game where it's possible that stuff that host says might not be true.

Ah, okay. Never was exactly sure what the definition of a bastard game is.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
November 23 2016 15:22 GMT
#12
In my eyes, Bastard meant a set up that does not necessary ensure a balance game and slash or has extreme mod interaction. Off of that, since the balance of this game could be at times slightly off, it would of fallen under my def for a bastard game.

I have to ponder on rather or not I will allow hosts to give false info or not. I didn't honestly thought of the hosts doing that.\

Will answer shortly (cough a few hours). If players want to voice their opionons as always, I will read them.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 23 2016 15:54 GMT
#13
I do think there should be a baseline of things hosts say that are true (like if they say you're dead, you're actually dead) or players can just not believe anything hosts say and post forever
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
November 23 2016 22:39 GMT
#14

Hosts are guaranteed to tell the truth when it comes to Balance bills, Punishment bills, flips, day/night posts being accurate, vote-counts, etc. The only time we can lie is through poke bills and to the obs because I am a prick.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
November 23 2016 23:30 GMT
#15
On November 24 2016 00:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I do think there should be a baseline of things hosts say that are true (like if they say you're dead, you're actually dead) or players can just not believe anything hosts say and post forever

So all Caller games are bastard games according to this def.?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-24 03:47:02
November 24 2016 03:46 GMT
#16
/in

This will be awesome.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
November 24 2016 09:29 GMT
#17
deadline actually kinda works for me. Conflicted between in to play, or cohost for maximum cake-"puts 3p in the newbie"-pie evil.

On November 24 2016 07:39 Shapelog wrote:

Hosts are guaranteed to tell the truth when it comes to Balance bills, Punishment bills, flips, day/night posts being accurate, vote-counts, etc. The only time we can lie is through poke bills and to the obs because I am a prick.


Are you thus ruling out unaware roles and/or voting roles?

Unaware roles are kinda like lying by omission.

Depending on implementation, voting roles (doublevoter, voteless, etc) may require the running votecount to be inaccurate so as to avoid modconfirming the role, i.e. the role effect is applied only at the EoD final vote count.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
November 24 2016 11:42 GMT
#18
did you steal my op
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
November 24 2016 11:46 GMT
#19
/in (haven't read op)
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-24 23:54:46
November 24 2016 23:54 GMT
#20
On November 24 2016 18:29 cakepie wrote:
deadline actually kinda works for me. Conflicted between in to play, or cohost for maximum cake-"puts 3p in the newbie"-pie evil.

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2016 07:39 Shapelog wrote:

Hosts are guaranteed to tell the truth when it comes to Balance bills, Punishment bills, flips, day/night posts being accurate, vote-counts, etc. The only time we can lie is through poke bills and to the obs because I am a prick.


Are you thus ruling out unaware roles and/or voting roles?

Unaware roles are kinda like lying by omission.

Depending on implementation, voting roles (doublevoter, voteless, etc) may require the running votecount to be inaccurate so as to avoid modconfirming the role, i.e. the role effect is applied only at the EoD final vote count.

I've been kinda thinking about this after I posted the last one (as I had a idea for a pretty evil role PM, that needed false info to work). I think I am going to include those in the realm of lieing.

It also opens up the door for stuff like make everyone cop + everyone shows up as mafia to cop checks.

So as of right now I am thinking:

"Hosts are guaranteed to tell the truth when it comes to When the setup has been change, Punishment bills, flips, day/night posts being accurate, midway votecounts and new functions (ex. Players being able to send PMs) being added to the game. The only time we can lie is through poke bills, Role pm info, final vote-counts and to the obs because I am a prick.

When the set up is changed, the following message will be present in the Day/Night post:

"The gods deem a new game must be in play."

If functions such as players being able to PM, it will state so under that. New roles and their ability (both given and true info of said role) will not be given out. "

Think that opens up the window for more stuff as well.

On November 24 2016 20:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
did you steal my op

Well you didn't have a copyright on it and finding mine would take a few extra mins
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