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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 04 2016 09:21 ExO_ wrote: Your entry into the thread looked scummy at first. That was my thought at the start of the game. You kinda agreed with everyone but didn't really make any pressures or move the thread. This latest read on you was an OMGUS. Also rels is a bit odd to me. His filter is of similar length to DF/Skynx. I don't get why he backed off of me so readily either Tip: Don't read players based on filter length. Dandel Ion was scum with you in Dota 2 and he managed 10+ pages of filter iirc. Because of your VT claim & explanation. He never was fully onto you. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On November 04 2016 08:29 NeverUnlucky wrote: Would you kindly summarize what your reads now look like? My more recent and confident ones: Scum: Exo_ Neut: FM Townlead: Calix, NU, Rels I want to reevaluate TT, Skynx and DF next. DF posted a lot of stuff, and it seemed to not match my image of him and at some point he went completely off when accusing me. But I may be biased on the stuff he writes about me, so I have to reread his filter and I will probably focus on the stuff not concerning me to make my judgement. From first impression I would tend scumlean though.I hope to ind time tmrw for it. Skynx is Neut in my mind so far, mainly because I didn't pay much attention to his posts besides the onne paragraph directed at me. From memory he posted mostly useless stuff early, but later had 2 wot against me and 3 other players. Then his TT case. I will focus on those. (I actually wanted to do that earlier... but somehow kept busy) TT I would townlean from memory. But I want to check the case made against him. If I currently Neut Skynx, while having a scum+scumlean, this would make Skynx by process of elimination a townie and his case must have some substance. Also iirc Exo jumped on it. If it was completely fabricated, this would mean the the entire scumteam went allin here... Then again, Exo jumping on it actually makes TT and Skynx look better. But this is now too much speculation, and I will warm this up once we have a flip. Anyway... I just want to read TT again | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
All that does is get him on everyone's radars. It's likely to piss people off. It's certainly not making him any friends. It's not leaving him under the radar. He's not doing it to say that all five of those players are scum/ cast doubt because he calls most of them bad. His logic isn't complete shite so it's not causing chaos either. So why do that as scum? | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
You always claim you have too many townreads. But in this game, if you are town you should see 6 town and 2 mafia. So yes... Most people should look townish. I haven't seen you townread EVERYONE so far... so... I'm sure there are two left. Which brings me to: Would you care to update me on your current scum->town ranking of the players here? | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 04 2016 09:29 mahrgell wrote: @calix: Something about your posting confuses me. But I somehow feel you are confusing yourself probably. You always claim you have too many townreads. But in this game, if you are town you should see 6 town and 2 mafia. So yes... Most people should look townish. I haven't seen you townread EVERYONE so far... so... I'm sure there are two left. Which brings me to: Would you care to update me on your current scum->town ranking of the players here? Yes, I was (and to an extent, still am) having problems with my reads because I was seeing town motivation all over the place. That's kind of why I voted Rels as well because he was/ still is pretty inactive and I figured "well the active players seem townie so I guess the scum are passive/ lurking" and Rels fitted that profile, but I am not so sure now. This is what I sent when I finally got the chance to jot down a reads list in my notes: TOWN Calix Skynx Never Unlucky mahrgell TT darthfoley Foreman Rels ExO MAFIA I've already changed my mind since this list though. ExO feels genuine (although I'll reread since I got that read when I was feeling sorry for him since everyone and their kittens was pushing him) and it's possible that TT is mafia instead or something. Basically the order of TT, DF, Foreman is interchangeable. I might bump up Foreman a notch, actually. But anyway, it's kind of where I stand. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
With that I will now finally go to sleep. As time may be rare tomorrow, who do you suggest to look into first out of TT,DF and Skynx? I guess you are valueing Skynx highly, so could you maybe give me a summary how you came to this? And then I would start with one of the other two. Probably DF, as TT seems to be tied to skynx. DF seems to be upset with me though and I don't feel like revenge reading ^.^ I doubt anything useful will come from his. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On November 04 2016 00:51 Skynx wrote: More badness cuz of word limit Tictock Exo is scum with Foreman Exo is scum for overreacting to a bad push > No, he had right to do that, he got voted by someone else plus the guy making the push didn't vote for him and said he is not even scumreading him. He has to retaliate here otherwise people will accuse him for not going after shitty pushes. Exo is scum for dropping the gif stuff > So you actually suggest him trying to be pro-town implies he did it because he rolled mafia is absolute OMGUS. Exo is scum for shitty push on Calix > I can sort of agree with this cuz it was badly worded. However this is quite bad as Exo's push is not indicative of Calix' alignment as regardless of the retaliation, Calix' push was bad and he stepped back from it and should be pushed for it. Nothing about Foreman this is literally the worse case ever "pushing the game forward" here means voting for wrong and weak and meaningless reasons that are not there. what does this even mean? Can you like quote some stuff indicating why them two are town? Cuz i see nothing. Middle ground on me, calls me shitter, unlikely to come from scum, in the end null. If above two are town for pushing the game forward by a clear margin for you, why am I not an as clear scum for doing the absolute opposite?? These don't make any sense. Two lists of opinions about people after a long silence and they are all meaningless/wrong. ##Vote: Tictock | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 04 2016 09:43 mahrgell wrote: Thanks @Calix With that I will now finally go to sleep. As time may be rare tomorrow, who do you suggest to look into first out of TT,DF and Skynx? I guess you are valueing Skynx highly, so could you maybe give me a summary how you came to this? And then I would start with one of the other two. Probably DF, as TT seems to be tied to skynx. DF seems to be upset with me though and I don't feel like revenge reading ^.^ I doubt anything useful will come from his. I already stated why I am strongly town-reading Skynx. It's literally just a page back. As for who you should read - TT. 100% recommend this if you are having doubts on ExO in particular given the TT/ ExO debacle. So if you thought that ExO could be town then how would TT look? Seems like the best choice to me. But the choice is up to you. | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
Vote Count ExO_ (4) : Tictock (2) : Skynx, mahrgell (1) : Rels (1) : Calix darthfoley (1) : Rels Calix (0) : Foreman (0) : NeverUnlucky (0) : Skynx (0) : Currently, ExO_ is set to be lynched! The day phase will end at Friday, Nov 04 5:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 16 hours from this post. remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread. If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
As it stands, I am willing to lynch Foreman and ExO. Maybe mahrgell if I really hedge my read, and maybe Skynx as he seems like he's doing the bare minimum not to get PLed. | ||
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Foreman
United States88 Posts
Why so conservative, dawg? | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On November 04 2016 06:27 Rels wrote: Good find, it is pretty weird. TT why was Foreman lock scum before that post ? Kus everything before that, which is basically the first page of his filter, was just tunneling Calix for being tryhard without talking about anyone else. On November 04 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote: If you're going to acuse Calix of tunneling, you better be able to back it up. Calix you Town reading NU? because if you're scum reading him I think he might be a decent lynch today Such a weird fucking post. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Hi!+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On November 04 2016 07:17 mahrgell wrote: Is this your thing? Trying to modconfirm yourself day1? This is quite sadly his thing. On November 04 2016 08:24 Foreman wrote: Found an outlet. I can't see scum posting this. Do I really need to explain why? @TT: How did you get from: to: ? (emphasis mine) Mostly the fact that "Not hating it" doesn't translate to "He's town" On November 04 2016 08:31 Foreman wrote: This sounds like TT is revoking a townlean from Skynx if I'm reading correctly... but he already said Skynx was one of his favored lynches. I'm not following this. Please explain? I was referring to the fact that I had initially townread Skynx due to his early play. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On November 04 2016 06:11 ExO_ wrote: Starting a discussion is EXACTLY what town wants to do. And its exactly what I did. Implying that I wouldn't do that is town is at best misleading. What I did drew a lot of attention to me, you really think thats what I would do as scum? Instead of posting a few gifs and joking around a bit? please. Lynch TT its so obvious at this point Cute... but you really never did anything with that now did you? On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote: I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left. I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit. I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at. Your follow up to this was voting me kus you liked Skynx's case and think he is a cool guy. Now it seems like you've forgotten you even scumread me. On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote: NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon. Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU And apparently everyone who is voting you is also scum, so your reads are just OMGUS. On November 04 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote: Darthfoley/Skynk have the shortest filters and might be good places to look as well. Going off filter length NU/Calix shouldn't be scum because they are so far and above everyone else. I'd find it hard to be posting that much as scum Which is now effectively half the game being thrown in for good measure. I guess Skynx is also not a cool guy anymore either. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I still believe in the Exo wagon, and I expect to hear pretty convincing reasons why anyone is voting anybody else or is still townreading the guy when I wake up. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On November 04 2016 14:30 Tictock wrote: Cute... but you really never did anything with that now did you? Your follow up to this was voting me kus you liked Skynx's case and think he is a cool guy. Now it seems like you've forgotten you even scumread me. And apparently everyone who is voting you is also scum, so your reads are just OMGUS. Which is now effectively half the game being thrown in for good measure. I guess Skynx is also not a cool guy anymore either. you are cherry picking my filter, without following any of the progression of it. Why? I think you are trying to tilt me. It's not going to work | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
My vote is still on mahrgell as I find him the most sus, though at this juncture it looks as if the final wagon is gonna be ExO vs. Ticktock. Still feel as if Rels and Skynx have been underwhelming. Didn't like Rels pressure on me in particular, felt a little forced and unnatural. Interested to see what he's slept on | ||
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