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On November 30 2016 01:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:03 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote:
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Ticktock
I am left with these names.What did Emp and Darth do that impressed you? Yo, Tictock  Can you comment on my concern of you seeming disconnected from the game?
You actually kinda hit the nail on the head already.
Started a new job and haven't really been in the mafia mood. Phone posting from work right now in fact.
Only thing that has jumped out to me is HF's push on gell, but based on history that prob means he is town.
If I had to vote right now I'd probably just flip a coin between Emp and SL as they have not evoked any towny vibes imo.
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Well yesterday I was feeling like the people calling me uninvolved were jumping the gun given it was pretty early in the game, but at this point I have to admit I've shit the bed fairly badly on that point.
Work was brutal today and I ended up picking up a shift tomorrow kus I need to make up for the months I was out of work. Which means I'm probably not going to be around for EoD (whenever that is).
I've at least been able to keep up with reading the game, just not had the time to post. Gunna spend a bit of time skimming filters and throw together a list post, might be all you guys get from me.
One thing that stood out in my reading was this:
On November 30 2016 07:56 Koshi wrote:
I think I am probably wrong on TT btw and he is just being super unimpressive.
Koshi is basically lock town in my book for this, I can't think of any reason mafia would post this.
I'm a super easy mislynch for mafia at this point and someone even brought up the game where I was mafia and tried to skate by with doing absolutely nothing. I'm even a terrible person to try and buddy given my lack of involvement thus far.
I'm tempted to given townleans to the people voting HF for similar reasons (putting pressure on a stong player, not going for an easy lynch), but that might be taking this line of thought too far.
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On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains.
This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon.
I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player.
HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him.
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I guess that post was actually more directed towards LS than Darth, but w/e.
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On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are Nobody flagged this????????????? This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR?
LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though.
I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously.
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On November 30 2016 13:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are Nobody flagged this????????????? This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR? Show nested quote +On September 25 2016 00:23 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 23:53 DanelerH wrote:I am not liking Lunaticman right now. First of all, basically all Lunatic has done is posted a random Town read. Let's take a look at it: On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.
Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff. Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it. Stutters is so far the most obvious townie. I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart. This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything! This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out. Lunaticman just throws a random Town-read in the middle of a bunch of irrelevant information. Furthermore, xe doesn't give any reasoning for the Town-read. When asked about it, xe responded with this series of posts: On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 17:32 Calix wrote:Yo. I have a bit of time in the morning to pop in. I actually don't mind the activity as much as I usually would because the posting isn't just a bunch of useless spam and it's much easier to catch up/ reread stuff. On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/ Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^ Also hi there. I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you. I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night. Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis. I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely. As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself) Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense. Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange: On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:On September 24 2016 08:19 Stutters695 wrote:
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To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him.
On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once. I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early. This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata. Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention. Stutters:Calix:
You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test? My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play. Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation. It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here. On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.
Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff. Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it. Stutters is so far the most obvious townie. I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart. This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything! This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out. What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread? Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people?  Fourth part is just weird. It states the obvious ("mafia are informed and will try to look townie") but it does it in a hyperbolic manner. Where are you going here? If you think mafia are leading the discussion then that implies that you suspect players and this is something you did not put down in favour of a town-read. Who could fall under this category of 'leading mafia' in your eyes, if anyone? Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town. Please explain Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least. On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 17:32 Calix wrote:Yo. I have a bit of time in the morning to pop in. I actually don't mind the activity as much as I usually would because the posting isn't just a bunch of useless spam and it's much easier to catch up/ reread stuff. On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:
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Interesting idea. What does this achieve?
Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^
Also hi there.
I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you.
I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night.
Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis. I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely. As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself) Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense. Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange: On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
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This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata. Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention. Stutters:
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My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play. Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation. It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here. On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:
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Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.
Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.
I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.
This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!
This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out. What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread? Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people? Fourth part is just weird. It states the obvious ("mafia are informed and will try to look townie") but it does it in a hyperbolic manner. Where are you going here? If you think mafia are leading the discussion then that implies that you suspect players and this is something you did not put down in favour of a town-read. Who could fall under this category of 'leading mafia' in your eyes, if anyone? Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town. Please explain Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least. I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though. That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read. On September 24 2016 21:20 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 20:51 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
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Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town. Please explain Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least. I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though. That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read. Why woudln't I do such a thing ? So apparently you think I'm scum ? No I didn't say that you are scum I just find it suspect why I have to tell you why I town read him even though I don't want to yet. There is no reason not to give your reasoning for a Town-read. I want to know why you think Shutters is Town and I will not accept "I'll tell you later" as an answer. The game is 4 pages long day one, take a chill pill. I dare to say I have done more than half the players in the game and in my experience you never hit mafia day one. It is much better to build a town circle. Also Stutters is in all likelyhood a blue role. And if he dies it is on you and Rels. Not quite as similar as I recalled, but the point of his reaction being that LS is blue is still fucking scummery. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are Nobody flagged this????????????? This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR? LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though. I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously. SL is one of those people. Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 19:18 sicklucker wrote:
shapelogs and ls's interactions were pretty horrible but very town. Also shapelog is obviously the cop and if hes not im going to convince mafia he is so they shot him
Did you even read the quote from SL you just posted?
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Rels - Feels a lot like last game joining a bit late but just dropping thoughts as he has them. His "Ok NVM" posts support that he is just saying what he thinks as he thinks it, not trying to construct stuff. Very likely town.
Holyflare - I don't agree with much of what HF said about gell, but it feels in line with stuff he's pushed before. To restate: I disagree with his reasoning to scumread mahrgell but it's not unlike pushes I've seen from town!HF before. There are a couple posts I feel could fall into DMA + Show Spoiler +Dick Move Analysis, basically just the trend that mafia aren't usually outright mean to other players
Shapelog - I'm suprised how straightforward Shape is being this game honestly. Sure he threw out the cop WIFOM right off but that was pretty much the only time he hasn't been fairly serious this game. I'd be more worried about it if I didn't feel like I could see where he is coming from generaly and liked a few of the points he's been making. The one thing that stood out as strange to me was his NU read in #403
+ Show Spoiler +Shape started off saying he didn't find much to sway him either way yet here was his conclusion: Overall he has been overstressing things more than they should, which is more AI of a scum player than a town player. But, NU tone as town in previous games is like that. And while he did say he was trying to change his meta, tone and writing style is harder to change than just what you post. He's null/light scum read, but once he posts more content posts (along with everyone else), I will relook.
Onegu - Flipping my read from earlier. I gave Onegu some credit for doing some stuff right off and seeming like he was involved. Skimming his filter now I find basically nothing with real content in it. Seems like he burnt up a bunch of energy right at the start posting a bunch but now that there is stuff to actually discuss has dropped off. Would be someone to re-evaluate closer to EoD is I have time.
LightningStrike - Kinda a lazy read but LS just feels tonally on point to me and has been pretty involved. I'd imagine him having a harder time being this comfortable rolling scum after such a long absence from playing.
darthfoley - Pretty meh over his filter. I can kinda see where he is coming from at times, but I dislike how he dropped Shape from a townread to null just kus Rels asked him about it. I was going to call his vote on HF opportunistic, but he did mention not liking HF in an earlier post. I think I just need to see more from Darth to get a better read, I do recall him being a bit like this last game as well.
Koshi - Like I said before I see no reason for him to take a step back from his scumread on me like he did if he were mafia. I also imagine he'd be way more burnt out rolling scum for the 5th game in a row. Sure he'd play to win still, but what I've seen is a fair bit above what mafia would need to be doing at this point in the game.
Checkm8 - Not much to go on, and yea as others have mentioned he's overplayed the newb card. His one post of content felt legit. Idk, gut says town.
mahrgell - Feels a lot like what I recall from last game and pretty tonally on point as well. I also liked his reactions to HF's pressure (possibly another DMA) and while I get his big reads post feeling a bit lackluster it also reads to me like his legit thoughts at the time. Fairly strong townlean here.
emperorchampion - I honestly have no clue where Emp's head is at this game. Starts off some pressure on NU then does a 180 with no explanation and is now back to scumreading him. This post in particular stands out to me.
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.
This is where he 180's on NU, throws shade on LS for suggesting there is mafia between himself and NU (which is odd since he had also thought NU was sus a few posts before), doesn't like me, and the stuff about gell is almost litterally word vomit. Feels like a scatter shot post flinging shit and seeing what might stick.
I really did try to find something redeeming in his filter that might make Emp town, but I came up with nothin.
sicklucker - pretty dam null, nothing stood out to me either way
NeverUnlucky - Reading through the game I kinda felt like NU is a lot more held back than I have ever seen him. I liked his point in #285 in response to Koshi. Other than that though I'm really not following his reads, and especially his pushes. Kinda a shame NU was last on the list, I feel like I need to be more awake to make a better read here. Leaving him as a scum read kus something feels off about him in my gut.
##Vote: emperorchampion
Seems like the best option to me. I have an odd feeling that the Emp vs NU stuff so far has actually been Mafia on Mafia. NU has actually said very little about Emp despite being one of his scumreads and Emp's read on NU has been a bit all over the place. Their interactions are also pretty tame for two people scum reading one another as well. I might be hitting the tinfoil a bit here though.
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I'd like to say I'll at least be able to keep up with reading the game, but I'm not sure what my day is going to look like tomorrow. I should at least be able to check in a couple of times before deadline, but can't promise much.
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I'm willing to consolidate onto NU here since that seems to be the way things are going.
I think gell is a bad lynch, not only because I think he is town but he's going to be so easy to read the further the game goes on.
Rells is in a similar position I think, the stuff HF brought up is okish but I expect scum!Rels to watch for that sorta thing in his reads and not leave an obv contradiction open like that.
Plus I think HF could totally be mafia still, he's just faded into the background like I recall him doing D1 last time I played with him as scum
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Phone screwed up and I'm out of time I'll check in before deadline and move my vote
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Voted NU.
Someone asked why I am not pushing Emp, whoever it was missed the memo that I've got no time ATM and am barely able to post.
You guys are free to lynch me if you get cold feet. I should be more active in the future but I get it if that's a gamble you don't want to make.
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Hell ya, got the Framer!
Noticed a couple of things in the bits and pieces of EoD I've read so far. I'll be home in a couple hours and will reread and post about it then.
Overall seems like it was an interesting EoD, should be able to get some good stuff out of it. Kinda a weird final vote count though, and 3 non-voters geez. I'd bet there is at most one mafia in the non-voters and possibly none.
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On December 01 2016 07:21 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 07:10 Holyflare wrote:On December 01 2016 07:10 darthfoley wrote:
And three people didn't vote. Demotivated maf? Why did you vote me? All will be explained when i have time in a bit and I'm not on mobile!
I'd really like it if you followed through with this please.
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All caught up. Disregard my other post saying I had something from EoD though.
I had thought I'd caught a post from gell that made me start to think he was associated with NU, but looking at his filter I was clearly off base. Way too much interaction and discussion about NU to be scum buddies.
Rels and HF's little argument at EoD makes me town read them so hard. Not only does it just look like TvT but I can't believe either of them would pull that shit as scum when their buddy was being lynched.
I like Emp more now too, he was pretty present throughout EoD and while he wasn't directly pushing NU he was trying to get people to consolidate and just pushing the game forward.
In regards to Emp's case on me. I just don't think like that at all, just because I think someone is town doesn't mean they have good reads. I also have no issue voting with someone I think is mafia because I can be wrong just as easily as anyone else. D1 is an especially bad time to try and use that kind of thinking imo kus there are too many moving pieces and reads can change so easily. I'm also not the type to sheep people, I will vote who I think is mafia even if it means I'm throwing my vote away (though I have gotten a bit better about consolidating).
Right now I'm looking at a towncircle of Koshi, Rels, HF, and Mahrgell. I'm not quite ready to fully townread Emp, but he has definitly moved up a fair bit given his posting through EoD.
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Darth is in an odd spot. His EoD makes very little sense from a voting perspective. He also looked like he was trying really hard to not vote NU and get traction elsewhere. It's weird because he reacted somewhat strongly to NU's "well Koshi's case is good, but I'm town" post but then makes a bunch of posts putting pressure elsewhere. I can't find any solid read from Darth on NU either, just a quick "I think NU is town" buried in a large post early on.
I'm tempted to buy the "why would I draw that much attention to myself" excuse from him about it, but I don't think that's enough. I'm also kinda in agreement over his recent posts about Shape seeing how I mentioned pretty much the same thing in my list post some 24 hours ago.
Speaking of Shape, I'm wondering what happened to the guy. He dropped a weird read on SL and claimed to be catching up then *poof* His post about NU looks superbad after NU flipping, and he had to be pressured multiple times before he even made the read in the first place. Twice after the post Darth just quoted (and I mentioned before) he kinda just shrugs off reading NU and even lightly defends him in a post, saying "NU always acts like this".
Feels like Darth/Shape are the players to sort out tomorrow.
Onegu/SL are kinda off in their own little null world for me atm. I'm a bit more sus of Onegu because I have no idea how he has me as 2nd most town in his list behind HF and the meaningless tunnel on Koshi is as bleh as it has ever been.
Need Checkm8 to step it up a bit as well, really have nothing to go on with him.
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Apparently I almost forgot LS is in the game.
His "I'm nervous about the NU wagon because it formed so quick" post looks kinda bad given NU's flip, but since he did the same thing with HF and has otherwise been tonally pretty towny I think I can let it slide.
I guess NU's opening pressure on LS also means he is very very likely town, so +1 to the towncircle.
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I think I'm gunna call it an early night, didn't get much sleep last night. I should have a bit of time before work tomorrow (which will be before Day starts) and will take another look at Darth and Shape then, maybe Onegu or SL as well if i have time.
Also if I missed any questions or whatever directed towards me that you still want answered I'll make sure to get to that as well.
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On December 01 2016 12:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Does anyone have thoughts on Onegu's end of day 1?
If m8 or shape come along this could be something nice to look at.
I kinda hated his post where he went "Looks like it's NU or myself, but I hate Koshi so I'll vote Emp."
Didn't even have the balls to vote Koshi despite calling him mafia for a good chunk of the day. Though I do recall he had said some stuff about you so it wasn't a totally random vote.
Was there something that struck you?
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Having internet issues at home so I'm better Nguyen forced to read and post via mobile. Means I won't be doing the filter dives of death and Shape that I wanted too.
Thinking about the game this morning I'm thinking the answer might be as easy as Shape/Ch8. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing what mafia was doing in the latter half of the day as NU became the lynch. Checkm8 is also reminding me a bit of foreman from last game, who was a newbie that rolled scum and gave up posting after a day when he realized he had no way to keep up.
It's possible Onegu is scum but his posts right after the lynch seem fairly towns to me actually. He was more happy about his own filter length than having caught scum. I feel like scum would feel more pressure to fake being happy about the lynch.
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Just got up to pg 65.
Too much infighting between people I am pretty sure are town. I liked Rels Spew post and I had the same thought about Emp earlier, though I think it is far less likely that they are scum buddies now.
I'm not sure why I disagree with Kosi about SL. I can see where he is coming from but to me NU's case on SL just looks like he was reaching to make a scumread on anyone. Though if Shape turns out to be mafia I might put more weight on this as Shape made a weird town read on SL that looked pretty forced.
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