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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 14:37 GMT
#3294
You have to discriminate between the rist paragraph where I am talking about your proposed scumteam and the second one where I talk about what I think is reality.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 14:46 GMT
#3298
On October 12 2016 23:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
You have to discriminate between the rist paragraph where I am talking about your proposed scumteam and the second one where I talk about what I think is reality.

It's exactly what I am saying. You say that it is stupid for scum to switch from Scott to Palmar, but then say that it is precisely what they did.

No.

I am saying for a team of me/damdred/scott it is stupid to switch to Palmar.

For the actual scumteam that is not necessarily true because for example if oats is mafia they have their endgame player on the mafia wagon so the last one might aswell join the Palmar train.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 14:49 GMT
#3300
On October 12 2016 23:43 Calix wrote:
This conversation is dumb. Scum risked the negative attention by mislynching on Day 3 because it means we're in triple LYLO and means that they only have to convince one of the townies to vote incorrectly for the town to lose...over THREE days.

Or they just don't do that, bus scott and achieve the same result only one day later without outing themselves as mafia.
What does mafia gain from going all out to save scott today when we are most likely lynching him tomorrow anyways?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 14:52 GMT
#3303
On October 12 2016 23:51 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On October 05 2016 03:42 Damdred wrote:
And hf push on calix really wasn't that bad so kind if just want to take him off the table today and it was kind of a weak Poe anyway. But I'd like to leave him there so he won't ignore me this game.

But on another note- <3 you town jat

This "<3 you town jat" has always puzzled me.

In before you call that scummy.

This is basically a spew if he is mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 14:58 GMT
#3308
On October 12 2016 23:53 Calix wrote:
Claiming that ANYONE was 'going all out to save Scott' is a horrendous portrayal of what happened. Koshi decided to CFD and the scum bandwagoned with three minutes to spare.

I'm not seeing any legit defenses for how JAT/ Damdred are acting from a town perspective, just how their actions which they try to distance themselves away from don't make them scum. kk

Simple stuff.

Both following that CFD when we could have stayed on scott IS going all out. You see how it turned out (which was predictable if that is the team) and it is quite insulting for you to think I would be this retarded as mafia.

What you are saying is:

I am mafia with stutters scott.
I call them mafia day1 when noone else is.
I repeatedly call for a vigshot on the slot.
I basically out myself as mafia to save scott for one day.

It does not make any sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 15:04 GMT
#3310
On October 13 2016 00:01 Calix wrote:
The fact that you are so self-aware of how you treated other players (especially on Day 1?) is not helping your case because it just reads like you planned this in advance.

Not even getting into how calling for a vig-shot is not the high-risk mafia play you're painting it to be given that Vigilante is not a guaranteed role in the first place.

Sure, it isn't guaranteed. But why on earth would I do that when people are calling for a Palmar or calix shot instead?

And if you are really going to argue that me remembering my reads is scummy then I don't know what to tell you anymore.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 15:08 GMT
#3311
And if you think I would plan ahead for 4 days as mafia then you are even more insane.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 15:13 GMT
#3314
On October 13 2016 00:11 Calix wrote:
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On October 13 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:
And if you think I would plan ahead for 4 days as mafia then you are even more insane.


I'm clearly arguing that you planned out how you were going to treat Stutters/ Scott, not that you plotted on Day 1 for this very specific moment where Scott was almost-lynched. Plz




Who knows. You are assuming all kinds of nonsense right now.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 12 2016 15:22 GMT
#3316
On October 13 2016 00:18 Calix wrote:
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On October 13 2016 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 13 2016 00:11 Calix wrote:
On October 13 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:
And if you think I would plan ahead for 4 days as mafia then you are even more insane.


I'm clearly arguing that you planned out how you were going to treat Stutters/ Scott, not that you plotted on Day 1 for this very specific moment where Scott was almost-lynched. Plz




Who knows. You are assuming all kinds of nonsense right now.


Ah yes, such nonsensical concepts such as "scum!JAT switched trains onto a mislynch at the last minute"

Truly radical, ground-breaking ideas there.

I sense this is just going to turn into shit-flinging so I'm off to run the errands.

You can put it this way. Or you can put it like this: scum!JAT decided to switch trains and throw the game in order to save his useless scumbuddy for one (!) day.

Suddenly it is truly radical, ground-breaking bullshit.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 08:52 GMT
#3345
On October 13 2016 16:29 Koshi wrote:
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On October 13 2016 09:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
She hard-claimed it to me in a code, and soft-claimed it twice for everyone.

You are mafia.

Explain the code please.

Yes, you absolutely need to explain it then.

The marv green check is obvious and makes sense given her play. It also makes the game a lot easier. There is a small chance he is godfather/was framed but it makes no sense to entertain that today. If he is town he will die in the night.

The question is what the second check is. Why is it so hard to claim both of your checks in an understandable way at deadline? I would expect her to be explicit about it if she actually redchecked damdred. If she really hardclaimed in code you need to explain.

Anyways, the game is actually winnable. At least 2/3 mafia are between scott/oats/damdred. More likely is that this is just straight up the mafia team which is kinda frustrating since they just sat back all game watching us massacre each other.
If one of them is not mafia then either Koshi played the best mafia game I ever saw him play by a mile or marv is gf/framed. Technically nu could be mafia but that would be absolutely fantastic scumplay and I seriously doubt he is capable of it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 08:59 GMT
#3346
On October 13 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote:
Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely

She had a red-check on Damdred.

We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat.

Why Jat over Damdred?

Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight.

Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point.

It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him.

The order actually matters a lot in the sense that we absolutely need to lynch the player with the highest chance of being mafia. Because we cannot fail today. The only reason you want to lynch me is because you want to pat your ego for lynching the "power wolf". If people are so stupid for possibly townreading me then why did you take me out of your mafia list last night? Yeah. You only put me in again because marv was greenchecked and for some idiotic reason you are 100 % ignoring oats who hasn't done shit for days and days. I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town.
You are literally saying we should lynch me for being towny compared to your other scumreads.

That is the dumbest shit I had to read 2016 which actually means a lot since you posted almost 600 times in this thread.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 09:00 GMT
#3347
IF damdred was redchecked we 100 % lynch him. If he wasn't we should probably lynch scott.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 12:27 GMT
#3355
On October 13 2016 21:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 13 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote:
Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely

She had a red-check on Damdred.

We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat.

Why Jat over Damdred?

Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight.

Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point.

It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him.

The order actually matters a lot in the sense that we absolutely need to lynch the player with the highest chance of being mafia. Because we cannot fail today. The only reason you want to lynch me is because you want to pat your ego for lynching the "power wolf". If people are so stupid for possibly townreading me then why did you take me out of your mafia list last night? Yeah. You only put me in again because marv was greenchecked and for some idiotic reason you are 100 % ignoring oats who hasn't done shit for days and days. I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town.
You are literally saying we should lynch me for being towny compared to your other scumreads.

That is the dumbest shit I had to read 2016 which actually means a lot since you posted almost 600 times in this thread.

It actually makes a lot of sense to lynch you today. If we lynch Damdred then Scott, LyLo is Oats+Marv+You with only Oats being semi-confirmed town. Semi-afk Oats + AFK marv = low chances of success.

Marv/you is who we should lynch today. That's the coin flip that'll happen at LyLo anyways.

How on earth is oats semi-confirmed town?

Marv/me are literally the last people you should lynch today. I am town, he is green checked. This is record level terrible.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 12:30 GMT
#3358
On October 13 2016 21:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 21:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 13 2016 21:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 13 2016 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 13 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote:
Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely

She had a red-check on Damdred.

We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat.

Why Jat over Damdred?

Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight.

Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point.

It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him.

The order actually matters a lot in the sense that we absolutely need to lynch the player with the highest chance of being mafia. Because we cannot fail today. The only reason you want to lynch me is because you want to pat your ego for lynching the "power wolf". If people are so stupid for possibly townreading me then why did you take me out of your mafia list last night? Yeah. You only put me in again because marv was greenchecked and for some idiotic reason you are 100 % ignoring oats who hasn't done shit for days and days. I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town.
You are literally saying we should lynch me for being towny compared to your other scumreads.

That is the dumbest shit I had to read 2016 which actually means a lot since you posted almost 600 times in this thread.

It actually makes a lot of sense to lynch you today. If we lynch Damdred then Scott, LyLo is Oats+Marv+You with only Oats being semi-confirmed town. Semi-afk Oats + AFK marv = low chances of success.

Marv/you is who we should lynch today. That's the coin flip that'll happen at LyLo anyways.

How on earth is oats semi-confirmed town?

Marv/me are literally the last people you should lynch today. I am town, he is green checked. This is record level terrible.

There is one VT slot left to claim in my PoE pool. Marv being green-checked means he have 50% chance of being GF, 50% chance of being VT.

Maybe. But your PoE pool is shit. There is 0 reason to consider oats as town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 12:41 GMT
#3360
On October 13 2016 21:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:
" I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town."

Name those people. Red-checked Damdred does not count.

You can't. Every dead player but bats scum-read you.

This was an answer to you claiming I would convince people. Also this is wrong. HF didn't scumread me Palmar only scumread me on the premise that marv is mafia. Etc.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 12:46 GMT
#3363
On October 13 2016 21:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
HF scum-read you for being bad. He said it.

HF explicitly said I was null right before he died. Go read it if it is this important to you.

Fact is I am town and you are losing if you are town and lynch me today. And your irrational fear of "other people fucking up later" is unfounded anyways. As long as you are pushing for me to be lynched and oats to be confirmed town you will not die in the night. We do not lynch marv either because unlike you he WILL die in the night before 2v1 LYLO if he is town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 12:48 GMT
#3365
The only reasonable thing to do today is to get the save scumlynch and work from there. Because then you actually have reliable information to figure out the people you are not entirely sure of. In my case those are marv/koshi.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 12:49 GMT
#3366
On October 13 2016 21:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Mafia has no reason to kill someone who's in the PoE pool, lol. Koshi and I are the first and only ones to go no matter how bad our reads are.

You are pushing mafias agenda. You will not die ever. Mafia will get rid of a confirmed town marv as soon as they can.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 12:59 GMT
#3368
Fine, then marv will be obvious mafia in 2v1 LYLO for not dieing. Lynching him then actually makes sense compared to today. We need to lynch who we are really sure is mafia today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
October 13 2016 13:17 GMT
#3370
On October 13 2016 21:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Fine, then marv will be obvious mafia in 2v1 LYLO for not dieing. Lynching him then actually makes sense compared to today. We need to lynch who we are really sure is mafia today.

To add to this: Like you said we will hopefully know more about the mafias roles by then. If we for example lynch scott and he flips godfather then marv is literally confirmed town. If we lynch a framer we know marv is at least not godfather and they would have to frame him (much less likely than him being godfather).
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