[M][N] Onegu is the Best Host Mafia Part 2

On August 07 2016 23:47 GlowingBear wrote:


Mafia

On August 07 2016 23:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Town
Damdred

Mafia
Disformation


Step up people.

On August 08 2016 02:05 Damdred wrote:


Why is it sad that I have to point out something is suboptimal when there is are people who actually want to do it. Its sad that it is even brought up in the first place

On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy.
Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.

Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.

On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote:
I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.

In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).

On August 08 2016 04:59 sicklucker wrote:
so dandred/grac/disinfo seem like the best preliminary very little information lynches

On August 08 2016 05:39 mderg wrote:

I really hope nobody was being serious about an rng lynch. rng lynching is always bad even if it statistically has about the same chance of lynching scum.

Don't really like damdred getting so serious about this topic.

On August 08 2016 07:27 Grackaroni wrote:

No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.

On August 08 2016 07:43 disformation wrote:

eh? "i want to lynch kush, but i might sheep whatever case i deem good, or just go for the rng lynch otherwise"

all them options kept open.
that post/attitude seems pretty scummy to me...
well really need to get some sleep. let me look at that again in the morning..

On August 08 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Wow Tumblewood with the hard defending.

I said I didn't like his posts because they were stiff and ALSO that I looked at his other game where he was town and it was different completely, so two factors that lead up to him being scummy. Not to mention he hasn't posted since either.

Why have you completely bypassed the argument that I made and then made a new argument to defend him?

Also, SL comes in the thread and doesn't say anything about lynching me, definitely probably mafia.

On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts



I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later

On August 09 2016 02:52 Tumblewood wrote:

I like this post
not enough to vote sl, but I like it
or maybe I don't

On August 09 2016 03:16 disformation wrote:
Oh wow. SL, kush, tumble and luna were all in 72h with scum!grack. Any comments on meta/feels if you haven't already?
luna, sl, kush were town and tumble also scum that game btw.

On August 09 2016 04:57 GlowingBear wrote:


SL lets lynch disfo, then after that we kynch HF. What do you think?

On August 09 2016 05:22 disformation wrote:

actually why do you dislike the luna lynch this much. I get that you don't like HF's push on luna very much, but what about the other points on luna? Do you just think grack is way more scummy?

also: hfs push on luna is for a weak opening post.
gbs push on me is for a weak opening post.
so is the only other point against me taht I am currently voting luna?
where does this incredible luna tr come from? dont recall you putting that out.

On August 09 2016 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
Why hasn't gb gone ham at me?

On August 09 2016 06:12 disformation wrote:

wait wat?
okay. he is scumreading you because you dont scumread him for the luna push, right?
but you still dont like the luna push, or at least the lynch, or did I mess up here?
then why dont you dislike the luna push/lynch?

On August 10 2016 07:17 Damdred wrote:
I shoat vivamx.

Thlere happiy noew

On August 10 2016 10:35 Shapelog wrote:

So we have Jk/Vig/Cop??

That doesn't make sense at all in a /13, unless there is either more to your role, or mafia has something to = it.
Actually maybe it kinda does if JK is valued at .5 cannot remember honestly

On August 09 2016 04:57 GlowingBear wrote:


SL lets lynch disfo, then after that we kynch HF. What do you think?

On August 10 2016 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
SL right now:

On August 10 2016 21:12 GlowingBear wrote:
SL do you think HF is Mafia?

On August 10 2016 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:


You just said I'm probably town, how did this change?

On August 10 2016 21:29 Holyflare wrote:
Yes let's put 2 millers and x mafia roles into a game with 0 cops

- Sl logic 2016

On August 11 2016 10:27 Shapelog wrote:


It really actually does now that I think of it. Its kinda like me calling SL a alien in Storm.

Actually it is exactlly like me from storm and him. I was RC, and checked him N1, and proceeded to keep calling him a alien (his role was Broodmother) for the rest of the game.

The only thing i could honestly think of to say about it is that its dumb for scum to even try to down talk HF if they know GF is going to flip miller. I mean they could just shut up, kill HF (who would be cop I suppose in this case) and then lynch who ever they needed to.

But that is WIFOM at best.

On August 11 2016 10:46 Grackaroni wrote:
If GB is somehow actually miller I'll probably lynch HF over SL.

On August 12 2016 07:45 Shapelog wrote:
I guess also the wild thoery was "will town believe me if i unclaim cop?"

On August 12 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
Here is my perspective which is what I was trying to highlight and what admittedly GB thought was weird the entire day (because it was weird). I am town and now evidently GB is town and that definitely highlights irregularities from mafia's perspective of this whole claim thing.

We have several candidates flagged for mafia at this point and I'll rank them from the most likely:

1. Sicklucker





I got a notification that I was roleblocked last night (I don't know why we get notifications at all really but w/e) so I was JK'd at least or MAYBE mafia rb'd which is possibly what SL is alluding to here:










Now, think in your own heads, how unlikely was it that I was fake claiming? You guys are entirely in the dark, you did what was right, follow my lead and look for clues and links, SL on the other hand has referenced and foreshadowed (most importantly) GB flipping miller about 1000x throughout the day, not just flipping town, FLIPPING MILLER. That's the most important point of it all, mafia KNOWS I'm town and therefore if I have a red check and they know GB is town he MUST be a miller. This is why I found SL's reaction the most definite mindset of a mafia player because he KNEW ALL ALONG IT WAS HAPPENING.

Mafia chance: 100%

On August 12 2016 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
My initial plan was to unclaim on Gb if he tried to play or at least be sensible and subsequently draw a shot later. You can see me try and talk to GB through the day and I did see gleams of town GB with the giving up and it's part of the reason I kept telling him to try and solve the game and arguing with him instead of afking on it. However, he didn't vote, he completely ignored SL's posts that made SL almost confirmed mafia to himself and he was stuck on his one read from the start of day 1.

I'm definitely disappointed and ashamed that he solely joined up to claim blue and afk but obviously part of it is my fault too.

On August 12 2016 08:48 Damdred wrote:


If Gb was the next lynch basically no matter what, what was the point of even claiming if he was the lynch no matter what.

It just seems like a needless way to kill the game and cause people to afk while we lynch Gb.

Meh

On August 12 2016 08:56 Holyflare wrote:
Ok guys, my day 1 theiry may actually be true.

Damdred what are you confused about? Everything aligns with what I was thinking because nothing I have said is a lie.

On August 12 2016 09:50 Holyflare wrote:


Actually, SL is doing some shady shit with Luna. First it's a town read then it's scum because not tinfoil and now it's town because I was pushing him even though I town read Luna and moved to GB.

Possibly saving a partner? His grack is 100% mafia read d1 vanished though.

On August 13 2016 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
Cop can check me or sl if they need to. Easy job really unless the latest trending theory is that I'm now GF too.

On August 13 2016 04:14 Damdred wrote:
Maybe in either case neither should be discounted after hf. The nk after hf will be the most informative probably.

I also think overall trying to fit a mafia team with hf exclusively is a bad isea. He's good enough to spew and anti spew so I'd ignore his wifom

On August 13 2016 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
Unless you're seriously saying 1 shot vig + jk is a balanced setup on its own then you're crazy.

On August 13 2016 08:33 Grackaroni wrote:
You also didn't answer why you thought it was a good idea to claim when Damdred set himself up as the night kill at the start of the day. In all likelihood the roleblock came from Tumblewood.

On August 13 2016 08:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok. I have a red check on HF.

On August 13 2016 08:58 Grackaroni wrote:
It also doesn't help that SL is completely useless.

On August 13 2016 09:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I didn't mean you. Sicklucker.

On August 13 2016 22:14 disformation wrote:
Also I would like SL to elaborate/give an update on:

On August 14 2016 03:20 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm probably just being bad, but I'd be open to lynching outside HF today. If he's actually town, he'll have to be shot and there are still two/three other mafia to hit.

This just feels super unnecessary when they could have lynched GB then claimed a red check on me today.

Can you explain why you mentioned that thing about me possibly being a PR when I came back to vote GB HF?

On August 14 2016 21:28 Holyflare wrote:



you should zoom in lol

On August 15 2016 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
Look, I get you don't trust me but a no lynch is the only way to claw this game back.

A lynch on me loses the game.

You'll be too scared to follow me, I get that.

A no lynch gives me time to play the game. Please help.

On August 15 2016 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
I am very upset at people that used to post a lot but don't anymore btw, yeh I ruined the game and I take it entirely on my shoulders but it's not fun to play a game where 4/5 town players post 5 posts at deadline and don't care.

On August 15 2016 08:27 Grackaroni wrote:

I still don't know what this meta read is about. Did you think I would only push Kushm4sta as mafia?

On August 15 2016 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:


I really do not think you are giving them enough credit. Things they did right:

(1) Shapelog's blue snipe on Tumblewood was beautiful, Tumble was NKed solely because he was blue. He had a blue meta read on him. Couldn't determine investigation or protective but he knew he was blue.

(2) disformation broke meta by upping the activity massively. Maybe you never played with him but as mafia, he lurks hard and really falls off. He also poked holes in town's cases and put himself out there at greater risk to draw attention.

(3) Shapelog mixed his "quality" posts with just enough spam that enough people didn't want to read his posts or at least not critically. I was thinking enough people would catch on to him but this was not the case.

(4) Presence matters. Scum had ~50% of the total posts in this forum. They were able to influence the thread or dispel suspicions and even better disassociate from each other. (scum qt reference: shapelog was looking to divide the town days 2 and 3 to distance himself from the other two.)

No doubt town had their share of muckups but that blue snipe night one made a difference.

On August 15 2016 08:38 disformation wrote:
dude I spend like 2h yesterday writing up a 2500+ word case on Luna and you didnt even read it?

On August 15 2016 11:37 Onegu wrote:
Questions for the host?

No.

Good moving on.