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Pfft whatever /in | ||
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guess I've been living under a rock if we can all be kind to each other this game that would be nice  | ||
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On July 19 2016 23:19 Lunaticman wrote: So when did this game start? In the future | ||
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tl mafia: came for the game, stayed for the dank memes | ||
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or at least copy and paste the generic one | ||
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On July 20 2016 04:32 Rels wrote: Did you set on a deadline ? probably narrowed down to anytime after 3 pm pst | ||
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On July 20 2016 10:59 emperorchampion wrote: DC new question: how do I trick you as mafai? bro ec if you roll mafia you need to look at your past three games and act in the exact opposite manner. you were pretty obvious to me in the obs qt last game because you didn't change your playstyle at all. do that if you roll town too | ||
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next the world | ||
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On July 20 2016 11:26 Damdred wrote: Spoiler: ec rolls mafia again. I have my reasons for telling this now I think I'd make a really bad host because I'd feel bad for players on scum streaks and probably reroll until they get town also because I'd never be there for deadline | ||
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On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote: Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet. There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far. And what do you think about me so far? I was ehh kind of uncertain on luna until he made this post. this is about the exact opposite of what a mafia would post if they were trying to blend in / sound town. scrubtell? On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote: I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote: Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles. "Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm" I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather. Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote: Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet. There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far. And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote: I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep. What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them. That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young.ehh not sure what to make of this post. it's weird, but townies are weird too. idk, townreading koshi blindly seems to be working for me so far. | ||
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luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec) also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. | ||
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On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote: Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. | ||
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On July 20 2016 23:37 Lunaticman wrote: That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information? ... solving the game is a team effort man. everyone needs to work towards finding scum, mostly because it's easier to find scum when they're pretending to make reads. no enlightenment from me, just reads. | ||
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On July 20 2016 23:41 Lunaticman wrote: I was being sarcastic, but apperantly it was undetectable. it was goddamn and I thought tl had trained me to spot sarcasm | ||
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On July 20 2016 23:45 Lunaticman wrote: Yes but without information it's impossible to do it. I'd like to know what you think about the others players so far. players I have an opinion on: you (scum lean but having doubts) ec (scum lean) koshi (association stuff with you) I think I was screaming gracka but I don't remember why so it probably isn't important | ||
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On July 20 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote: Ah well, anyone got any alignment indicative stuff so far? skynx you're better than this blech post overall | ||
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On July 20 2016 23:48 Tumblewood wrote: players I have an opinion on: you (scum lean but having doubts) ec (scum lean) koshi (association stuff with you) I think I was screaming gracka but I don't remember why so it probably isn't important oh ebwop because my phone changed scumreading to screaming I was most certainly not screaming gracka | ||
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On July 21 2016 00:04 emperorchampion wrote: Since you're willing to step up: 1) What association between koshi and lunaticman? You mean town lean on koshi? 2) How can you suddenly forget about grack when you scum lean me and lunatic for "activity"? 3) No read on skynx? 4) Is this contributing? 1. if luna scum, Koshi town(ier) 2. it... what? I didn't suddenly forget, it was more "don't like these few posts" and I didn't care about it very much so I forgot (more on this point later) 3. I guess not 4. is what contributing | ||
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definitely looks like trying to paint me as scum for something that wasn't really scummy. also weird because I don't think ec is scumreading me. damdred was probably telling the truth on ec. | ||
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On July 21 2016 00:36 emperorchampion wrote: OK new fun time activity question: favourite way to drink coffee? I'll start, mine is black ec, this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about you're making a lot of posts that don't further the game, which is definitely not a weak reason. also out of place because you make a big case on me and then go straight to "let's talk about coffee!" | ||
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that quote is a bad example because it doesn't try to look like it's contributing but there are a lot of questions from you that don't seem to be for the purpose of furthering the game. the "out of place" bit still stands though | ||
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On July 21 2016 02:01 emperorchampion wrote: L U L please give your reasoning, other than you think it will be an easy mislynch you can back up with maymays I have though | ||
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On July 21 2016 02:06 emperorchampion wrote: What do you think of my response of your question about Palmar's posting? I don't see a response | ||
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I don't question your reasoning on Palmar, I question the fact that you have a read on a guy who played for all of 5 minutes before leaving. | ||
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On July 21 2016 02:19 emperorchampion wrote: What do you think my reasoning on kruppe vs my reasoning on Palmar? afaik you put kruppe in the inactive null category. I can't imagine him being anywhere else. I'm surprised though that Palmar is a town lean and not in the inactive null category with him. | ||
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On July 21 2016 02:36 emperorchampion wrote: Kinda meh/kinda OK is not a town lean category. I think that your reasons for scum reading me are exceptionally limited now. In terms of "posting with a purpose", it's arguably limited to the first few posts of this game, which is pretty lulz since that was my entry to this game. To me, you either have some sort of idea of my "meta" in your head, and you went with it after reading a bit, or you are scum trying to push for a mislynch (a vote already?). The fact that you're still tunnelling the same point, and haven't given any other reasons is very dubious. I can't trust you at all, and I reeally hope that you're not setting yourself up for an easy mislynch. ec do you want a case? I'll give you a case. why ec is scum summary: 1. posting to blend in and not to push town forward 2. no clear direction in his posting (these are different points I promise) 1. On July 21 2016 00:04 emperorchampion wrote: Since you're willing to step up: 1) What association between koshi and lunaticman? You mean town lean on koshi? 2) How can you suddenly forget about grack when you scum lean me and lunatic for "activity"? 3) No read on skynx? 4) Is this contributing? take this post. there's no conceivable purpose behind this because clearly nothing piques his interest (or else it would have focused on one point) but he asks a series of unrelated questions, the answers to which would not be helpful. I see no reason to make this post besides "it's a contribution". QUOTE]On July 21 2016 01:18 emperorchampion wrote: On July 21 2016 01:14 Lunaticman wrote: There is a worrying amount of silent players Hmm in a way yeah, but also people are busy in life, so I don't think too much about it atm. I'm not really sure what to make of inactivity yet. Generally I'm not a huge fan, since on a feels level it feels bad to lynch someone for being busy in real life. But on the other hand, I think mafia can have a difficult time joining in because they feel the pressure to always not be scum read for posting some random stuff.[/QUOTE] literally a paragraph about inactive players out of nowhere this is what I'm talking about. also: 2. I don't want to quote ec's WoT in post 299, but in 299 ec makes a big ol' case on me and then three minutes later makes a post about coffee. it shows me that he isn't concerning himself with actually pushing his reads in thread but just making a case and carrying on. you get what I mean? I get what I mean. [br] in a sentence, ec is speaking without asking to be listened to, which is imo a huge scumtell. | ||
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On July 21 2016 03:34 emperorchampion wrote: Ah, this here guys was the post I was waiting for and honestly what I feel he has been trying to say the entire time. I'm glad that you finally came out and said what you've been setting up since the pregame, and even back to when we were mafia together in presidential.? On July 21 2016 03:39 emperorchampion wrote: I'll dash your hopes before you make the point. Yes I know those have nothing to do with this game, but it's all about how you perceive me. So you're making a meta read. And it's shit because I've never even had a town game before, so your point is totally moot. Besides, to me you look like a mafia who all along is trying to make a case against me using the "I can't believe he's mafia again!" meme and get an easy mislynch. Which you still have not convinced me of. ec, I know many things I know that newb scum sucks at pretending to contribute I know that townies don't make posts with no purpose I know that, as scum, you make empty posts like you have this game and, because of this I know that you're scum. treat it like a real case and not a meme. | ||
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On July 21 2016 04:19 Lunaticman wrote: Wow how can Prplhz and Skynx be 100% town. This you have to explain to me. palmar has mysterious ways ... ok now I'm caught up (I should also note that sl is a sliight scum lean for inactivity, though we're only 9 hours in. actually nvm no scum lean yet) | ||
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On July 21 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote: It's possible Kush's play has changed since I've last played with him. Other people can add a better idea of how Kush currently plays than I do at this point. I haven't played with him in over a year and don't keep too up to date on current games. That said from what I remember of Kush his tone feels quite off to me. Also, a lot of people seem more suspicious of the players who have contributed essentially nothing. I think you get a lot better success rate of hitting scum by lynching people who are contributing only a bit above that level while still giving off the appearance that they are interested in contributing. The post is just a highlight of what I've found underwhelming from him so far. It's not scummy to suspect a lot of people. Koshi also fits into that scum sweet spot for me that I described. The only thing he's done this game is talk about some unease with Lunatic's posts, yet he's been posting enough that he gives off some appearance of trying to scum hunt. Also like Kush, I have some expectations of what to expect from his play and what he has posted is not what I would expect from Koshi so far.[/QUOTE] | ||
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that went from "about to be pretty slick" to "hit the post button by accident" in about half a second but you see that bolder thing? that's ec (in terms of post quality, not quantity) | ||
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btw grack when was the last time you played with kush? | ||
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On July 21 2016 05:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: scum 1) Prplhz 6) Rels 7) sicklucker 11) Kruppe the eel 12) Koshi 13) Palmar kruppe - Isn't he a lot more explicit in his reads than last game? Maybe he's trying harder to look town, because actually he's scum?? the note on kruppe kinda weirds me out but I think kush wouldn't be that obvious probably also palmar said a thing On July 21 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote: I'm pointing out he's completely unable to detect sarcasm/trolling (read our interactions). (nested quote is relevant) I thought he was going one way with "agreeing with my trolling"-- like, in the direction of "he said something bad/dumb" but then he went in the direction of "doesn't detect sarcasm". being unable to detect sarcasm is totally nai-- it reflects on the person and not the alignment. both of these posts raise question marks in my head but I don't know if it makes either of them scum. | ||
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as both alignments, only post opinions on the current Lynch and your scumreads so you'll be able to suddenly start reading someone neutral however you want as scum | ||
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not like I read more than a quarter of it, but it was scummy alone just getting here, posting a bunch of random thoughts, and then leaving. can't explain why very well, but it felt Ooh here's the word for it blech | ||
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town [redacted] null [redacted] kush scum ec, rels | ||
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I usually read people like him town and so far it's worked out | ||
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On July 21 2016 23:41 emperorchampion wrote: @ tumble: can you expand on your point? whatever not what I was saying but maybe it could be? nah actually, don't think so. it just felt weird because kush was pointing out a reason to scumread kruppe but was obviously not convinced by it and not going to follow it. probably nothing but it bothers me. | ||
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On July 21 2016 23:53 Lunaticman wrote: And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains? I'm sure Grackaroni and Palmar can | ||
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@skynx why are you not lynching rels or kush? | ||
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On July 22 2016 04:20 Rels wrote: First, this sentence is not missing something. Second, why do (or did ?) you think that EC played this game and last game similarly ? do you remember that post from early early d1 last game (two actually) where vorono scumread and voted ec based on two posts he made? I was chilling I'm the obs qt and pissed that people were scumreading vorono and not lynching ec. yesterday I was feeling like a genius because I thought I had caught ec for the same thing but now I'm almost sure he can't be scum. | ||
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shenanny to rels or if you want to be boring d1 plynches don't suck? | ||
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"oh no I'm getting pressured" -> "welp, better scumread everyone who isn't obvious town" | ||
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On July 22 2016 06:43 Rels wrote: The lynch is actually you or kush. Please read kush s filter and give your thoughts really not tjough the wagons are small and can change quickly. I don't think kush is even getting lynched today. | ||
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On July 22 2016 06:50 DCWasabi wrote: I put my vote on Kush for now in survival extincts but I can switch if there is a better target. better target? did someone say rels? | ||
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would but I don't remember them and enjoy being obstinate | ||
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you're scum because you obviously don't believe in your reads, or else you would have called one person scum and not 40 million "but remember, DC is the real scum". makes me think DC is town too. | ||
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this guy On July 22 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote: [/b]No he isn't at all. Ok. You decided to be completely useless this game. Ignored for the rest of the game. Will push your lynch when possible. Insane how you haven't said anything remotely decent this game. Something I can actually use to read somebody. all d1 Koshi was yelling at rels for being bad and keeping him as his second scumread. when rels was the lynch, Koshi was sitting on kruppe and crying out "a trollplayer isn't being helpful! lynch!" the association is so obvious... Koshi is "fine with lynching rels" but instead chooses to save him. scumteam is for sure rels/koshi/an inactive (sl? maybe) I would be totally fine with afk-voting the next two days and coming back when there are real decisions to make | ||
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everyone else is more or less confirmed town in my mind | ||
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what do you mean by this | ||
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On July 23 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote: [/b]I'm fine with this reasoning, it is a strong argument. But which is the stronger lynch between the two of them kels or koshi? The last minute switching of votes holds some answer I am sure of it I just cant grasp it right now. Can we assume we have a vigilant in town? does it matter?  in reality probably rels(?) because the Koshi thing hinges on him being scum, but I'll do either as long as they both die. | ||
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On July 23 2016 04:41 Rels wrote: Tumble is scum ok | ||
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On July 23 2016 04:43 Rels wrote: The reasonning is simple. Tumble tunneled me the last game we played together. We were both town. He had a thoughtful reasonning as to why I was scum, but he was super wrong. Nevertheless he tunneled me and lost the game when mafia piled the votes on me. He said post game he was going to work on his tunnel. But he's doing the opposite this game. He's tunneling me so much this game that he's scumreading Koshi uniquely because "Rels is scum". Apart from that he gave 0 reason as to why I'm scum. Scum scum scum are you honestly scumreading someone because you think they're doing something dumb and tunneling? just because I said something postgame two games ago I won't give up my reads because they're fucking right. | ||
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On July 23 2016 04:46 Rels wrote: Tumble explain your scumread on me first 24 hours: (nothing) first posts: random shitty scumreads EoD: throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks with lynches, but emphasizing dcwasabi who is and was obvious town pretty clear-cut to me. you obviously don't and can't believe your reads because they're so weak and so all over the place. | ||
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On July 23 2016 04:51 Rels wrote: What reads I "can't believe" ? Why is DC "clear cut" town ? like, all seventy of your scumreads. there is no way you came back to thread after afkness and had a very strong DC (aka dude with 100% town mindset) read and four other scumreads and you believed all of them. | ||
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On July 23 2016 04:52 Lunaticman wrote: i doI am convinced either Koshi or Tumble is scum. I just don't know which... | ||
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On July 23 2016 14:43 Grackaroni wrote: We're getting way off track. It seems like nobody sees SL lurking in the shadows with the dagger hidden behind his back. why do you want to lynch sl (oh all people) now (of all times) | ||
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bet you weren't expecting this because rels is now scum because he twists filters/summarizes paragraphs-long posts as "useless" or "wrong" or "bad bad bad". check his scum cases in normal game for jat or like some other game he was scum in. looked through his filter for the first time which apparently helps you notice things you didn't before | ||
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... in that case DC is scum, probably grack and sl too (Koshi maybe-- maaaaybe) by PoE. I really don't want that world to exist | ||
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On July 23 2016 15:24 Grackaroni wrote: I don't understand what you're saying here. like, just this game rels has a post where he takes a bunch of quotes from dcwasabi and gives them short tags (ranging from a sentence long to just the word "useless") that twist the meaning, context, and intent of the posts to fit his claims. I don't honestly think rels sees the post that he quoted and thinks, solely, "useless". this is a thing he does as scum and no one does as town. + Show Spoiler + except me, occasionally? | ||
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like, has sl actually done anything | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:15 emperorchampion wrote: I think that 1 of grack/sl is mafia, not really sure which. Similarly with rels and tumble, but a lot of my town reads think that rels is town, so I'm going with tumble for now. I agree on the first half of the post and not the second how can people think rels is town aaaahhhh | ||
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rels/koshi/sl rels/koshi/grack ... dcw/grack/koshi dcw/grsck/sl suggested (demanded) lynch order is rels, Koshi, sl, grack, dcw | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:20 Lunaticman wrote: I could be convinced to switch kruppe for sl based on my strategy read. It is funny though that tumble also repeated the pattern of jukping on the sl train that was more "finding him independently scummy while I caught up" | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:21 Koshi wrote: Tumble why am I mafia? Just in 2-3 sentences. - you have consistently voted to save rels - there are a million confirmed townies and you aren't one of them | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:20 Tumblewood wrote: scum team is within (in order if likelihood) rels/koshi/sl or grack rels/koshi/skynx rels/skynx/sl or grack ... dcw/grack/skynx dcw/grsck/sl suggested (demanded) lynch order is rels, Koshi, sl, grack, dcw if rels flips town, skynx | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:28 Koshi wrote: You played with me so much... And that is how you will scumread me? Really? idk how you play as scum+ Show Spoiler + I guess like you have this game? either I haven't seen you play really bad as scum or your niceness meta is throwing me off or I'm right | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:36 Koshi wrote: What are the ingame events that make me mafia? Just me "saving" rels? Show me how I am saving Rels. you have always voted the counterwagon, including now | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote: You don't focus the town by pointing them towards a blue and ask them to lynch him. If you want town to focus on Koshi or Tumble. What are your best reason to Scumread Koshi or Tumble? Can you make a list. Koshi:- - - TumbleWood:- - - dammit Koshi why do you have to give me doubts like that | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:58 Grackaroni wrote: The wagon is made up of some of the towniest people in the game. No SL. No DCW. No Skynx. ah true like the entire scum team (if you count sl before he unvoted) | ||
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On July 24 2016 00:59 Koshi wrote: Nobody here should be voting tumble unless they believe he is mafia. I 100% believe he is mafia because he stopped talking to me when the 5th vote came in. Basically doing damage control. He can go. this isn't fucking damage control, I was actually gone + Show Spoiler + I COME AND GO AS I PLEASE THANK YOU VERY MUCH like guys the entire scumteam is on me and you're wondering whether this wagon is shaping up nicely? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + the hammer myself comment was also a joke, don't get any bad ideas | ||
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On July 24 2016 01:15 Lunaticman wrote: but which one is the biggest success lynch in your opinion? ? best lynch is obv rels if that's what you're asking | ||
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On July 24 2016 01:43 Lunaticman wrote: And haze is pretty scummy for just dropping by and voting tumble like that. hm maybe I need to read prplhz's filter. he had one post that I know looked like genuine emotion but maaaybe strategic use of all caps? | ||
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probable rels possible koshi grack sl dcw long shot skynx | ||
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On July 21 2016 02:43 DCWasabi wrote: 100% town: DCWasabi Town Lean: Tumble, Empc, prlhz, Grackaroni Low Activity Null: Palmar, Kruppe the eel, sicklucker, Rels I don't fucking know man: Lunaticman, Koshi, nnn_thekushmountains Spidey senses are tingling: Skynx list feels very honest. usually scum does not have an "I don't know" null category. On July 21 2016 02:15 DCWasabi wrote: This makes sense. Damdred totally fooled me last 2 games as active Mafia. Also, the rules of the game should have people posting when they are awake and able, so it is quite premature to worry about activity, we should be looking at the tone, content, purpose, etc... of what people are posting when they start posting. Noting the people that haven't posted yet is good, not bad, since it will encourages them to post. But, it doesn't mean that they are scum. commenting on how you got fooled last game is a typically townie thing to do (like ve in names are hard) DC's mindset is town imo. you see where I'm going with this? bad lynch today unless rels flips town | ||
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rels/grack/koshi is the probable team | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote: Please look at him people. He scumreads everyone with no reasoning allows him to say 'oh i was baiting' and sl is here calling him adjusting. You don't just change your scumreads every second. You form a towncircle you vote for others and if they go wrong you draw conclusions and lynch scum. He is never intending to do this. He's trigger happy. Skynx, in the words on palmar: "this level of fail is really hard to fake" luna is just too clueless to be scum (no offense) | ||
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he's not even here smh | ||
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not like I've seen any posts of his where I thought "that's townie" | ||
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Lynch grack | ||
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consider that | ||
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OH SHIT was this a sick play by Skynx | ||
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GRACK RELS KOSHI | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Grack is always a really bad lynch btw. It's always better to do rels or koshi first. grack has few associations that's true but it's like a million times better than me and a million times more happening than rels | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:53 Skynx wrote: alternatively listen to the scumteam I have iterated fifty million timesSo what happens if Tumble is green? Lynch Kruppe or Koshi/Grack? or just lose if you want | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:54 Lunaticman wrote: If tumble is green, 2 mafia or all three are in his lynch vote. wow that's a good point maybe you should lynch the 2 or 3 mafia on me | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:55 Lunaticman wrote: I just wish we had another blue claim right now to work of. no those can wait unless grack is blue then maybe | ||
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hm maybe because he has half a brain? | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:56 Skynx wrote: Quote it now for a final time to make it 100% certain is there a disappointment emote? | ||
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dc you gotta vote grack | ||
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On July 24 2016 06:59 Lunaticman wrote: I am sure DC is town if tumble is green. So FFS what is he doing. DC ec you're out past hope now everyone shut up | ||
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rels and especially grack especially played very good games. I feel that the team play in this game was very good, and we did a great job of getting good mislynches off. town overall needed to reconsider how to evaluate people and stop getting at each other's throats; in the scum qt we were marveling at how easy town made the game by tunneling on each other. all of the hammer votes were pretty dumb, most of all the LyLo one because it was clear that one wrong vote from town would lose the game. luna, DC, ec definitely need some more games under your belts; each of you tended to evaluate people at a very superficial level, which can be faked more easily by scum (see: grack, rels) and should consider what really separates town from scum. I had fun because my partners won the game for me, again kudos to rels and grack. wow this is some great analysis | ||
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On July 29 2016 04:06 prplhz wrote: I also agree with Rels that Race Bannon shouldn't host any longer. You can troll to some degree as a player but not like this as a host. thirded also rb can you please stop sending me pms I just delete them when I see them now. | ||
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On July 29 2016 00:34 disformation wrote: Always lynch Rels in Lylo/Mylo. Just sayin'. I did this once and it didn't work, I think rels is broken. | ||
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On July 29 2016 11:41 sicklucker wrote: ya i had the mafia team nailed see obs qt. man I suck at making people listen to me tho. I thought I made a really good case to why dc was mafai but everyone just ignored me then lynched me just before I had time to get on and defend myself. I certainly didnt play my best game up to that point tho oh well. It was a fun game guys I hope you guys keep playing here your good new blood DC was town though | ||
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