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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 13:18 GMT
#2013
On July 24 2016 22:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 21:42 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Wait is kruppe dead? I don't get if there was a night kill.

Read the spoiler.



I think I would lynch dcw today. Or sl or skynx or lunaticman.
But more likely dcw and sl.


Ok that sucks, maybe it was implied that he died of course. So even if he jailkeeped himself the mafia could kill him?

I think we should just follow kruppes read and get DC or Rels.

I also agree that SL, skynx or lunaticman looks extremly scummy from what happend. But remember Kruppe did clear me as town.


He didn't clear you at all. Just like all other players here we believe we can find mafia based on the fact they have extra information. And you play so clueless we don't associate it with mafia play. But you are not cleared. Far from.


You are also pushing a Rels lynch? For what? Kruppe only said to go Rels/Koshi if Tumble was town. If Tumble was mafia he agreed 100% with my list. He just added EC. Which I told him was ludicrous and I think he agreed. Probably didn't read his filter yet and had the same problem I had with Grack earlier. See quotes.


His real reads:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:18 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
This is Kruppe's list of traitors:
- Tumblewood
- DCWasabi
- emperorchampion/skynx

Either Kruppe is completely wrong or wrong on at most 1 person.

Let us kill Tumblewood, friends!


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 24 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Oh btw Mr. Krippe, Sir.

EC is not mafia. The guy played really good through the game.


Kruppe possibly agrees. The third traitor is somewhat of a mystery.


Yes you are correct, I just vaugly remembered Rels and DC was mentioned by kruppe the last time I checked.

If that is true I see no reason why we would not lynch DC.

And I am not clueless, I was the one who got the train started on tumble, although it was for the wrong reasons. If you check my filter I knew there was a mafia between Koshi/tumble. Dont blame me for beliving him. He did convince me he was town later which was obviously wrong. That is why I wanted to switch the lynch to Koshi instead. We are lucky I didn't manage to sway enough votes between me and SL.

And to say I'm pushing is a bit harsh, I assumed he wanted us to lynch them which you can tell by the way I phrased the sentence, do you have to post perfect everytime and check every filter? I think that is not the way the game is supposed to be played. I mean there is a reason you cant edit right? however I thank you for correcting me.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 13:27 GMT
#2021
On July 24 2016 22:21 Grackaroni wrote:
But townie points for hammering.


Yes but it looked like he did it after me and SL talked about that we couldnt get grac lynched even if he voted. It seemed like a desperate vote not to stand out, like he was waiting for the chips to fall and the tumble basically told him that he wasnt going to make it and score easy town points.

It depends on your viewpoint I suppose.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 13:41 GMT
#2023
On July 24 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 22:18 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 22:08 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:42 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Wait is kruppe dead? I don't get if there was a night kill.

Read the spoiler.



I think I would lynch dcw today. Or sl or skynx or lunaticman.
But more likely dcw and sl.


Ok that sucks, maybe it was implied that he died of course. So even if he jailkeeped himself the mafia could kill him?

I think we should just follow kruppes read and get DC or Rels.

I also agree that SL, skynx or lunaticman looks extremly scummy from what happend. But remember Kruppe did clear me as town.


He didn't clear you at all. Just like all other players here we believe we can find mafia based on the fact they have extra information. And you play so clueless we don't associate it with mafia play. But you are not cleared. Far from.


You are also pushing a Rels lynch? For what? Kruppe only said to go Rels/Koshi if Tumble was town. If Tumble was mafia he agreed 100% with my list. He just added EC. Which I told him was ludicrous and I think he agreed. Probably didn't read his filter yet and had the same problem I had with Grack earlier. See quotes.


His real reads:
On July 24 2016 06:18 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
This is Kruppe's list of traitors:
- Tumblewood
- DCWasabi
- emperorchampion/skynx

Either Kruppe is completely wrong or wrong on at most 1 person.

Let us kill Tumblewood, friends!


On July 24 2016 06:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 24 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Oh btw Mr. Krippe, Sir.

EC is not mafia. The guy played really good through the game.


Kruppe possibly agrees. The third traitor is somewhat of a mystery.


Yes you are correct, I just vaugly remembered Rels and DC was mentioned by kruppe the last time I checked.

If that is true I see no reason why we would not lynch DC.

And I am not clueless, I was the one who got the train started on tumble, although it was for the wrong reasons. If you check my filter I knew there was a mafia between Koshi/tumble. Dont blame me for beliving him. He did convince me he was town later which was obviously wrong. That is why I wanted to switch the lynch to Koshi instead. We are lucky I didn't manage to sway enough votes between me and SL.

And to say I'm pushing is a bit harsh, I assumed he wanted us to lynch them which you can tell by the way I phrased the sentence, do you have to post perfect everytime and check every filter? I think that is not the way the game is supposed to be played. I mean there is a reason you cant edit right? however I thank you for correcting me.

I agree you shouldn't be correct every time. But I found it odd that in your posts the names EC and Rels popped up while it is very clear the names DCW/sicklucker should be way more prominent.

And you are not clueless about the game of mafia. You clearly know how it should be played. But you are always doing these things... Like push Tumble/Koshi/Kruppe as a group of people but not say who is the most likely mafia. When did you say Tumble was likely mafia and we should lynch him? You talked more about Kruppe being mafia while the guy was OBVIOUS blue... That is what I mean with clueless.

Same thing around TW lynch.


I understand what you are saying and I know it is hard to read like all my filter I'll explain my plan again starting day 2:

It felt like the mafia was using my hyperactivity to throw shade in many different directions. So I set my sight on making two traps for them.

One for kruppe in which I wanted someone to CC him. I knew from his tone that I thought he was town and it would have been easy for me to train the CC:er as an mafia. This plan did not succeed.

And one in which we lynched either Koshi or Tumblewood. I knew that both of these players were trying to build a reputation for being townies together with me. It is a common strategy to have at least one mafia try to lead the town since the risk is very worth it.

So I tried pushing those three names over and over. The town agreed with me after a discussion and we started to train Tumble. The problem here is that it felt like Tumble was a townie and he convinced me. This put the fear of god into me and I thought that the hammer would get a green townie on tumble.

This left Koshi as an obvious mafia and by association Graci. That is why I came to the conclusion that there should be at least 2 mafia amongst the 5 orginal votes for tumble.

The town didn't want to lynch koshi but with the help of SL (who thought a lot like me for good or bad). We started switching for Graci.

Now in the end EC hammered Tumble and I was really thinking its game over. But he was the godfather.

This made me reevaluate the entire thing and this should indicate that Koshi and Graci are town. I think we should just follow kruppes line of thread and go for DC.

The last mafia is probably EC because of the way he voted in the end to gain town points.

Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 13:59 GMT
#2026
On July 24 2016 22:55 Grackaroni wrote:
There also was not too many mentions of Skynx in TW filter considering Skynx's was one of the more active players.


That is also true, I don't really have a read on Skynx, all over the place like me.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 16:25 GMT
#2044
On July 25 2016 01:08 Koshi wrote:
Reading his entire filter he always believed tumble was town. Always.


The only reason to consider it was because Kruppe said so.

He was right about tumble right?
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 16:26 GMT
#2045
I also think it is kinda funny that Grack and Koshi are always posting at the same time
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 16:32 GMT
#2049
On July 25 2016 01:31 DCWasabi wrote:
##unvote OMG

I thought of something in the fucking shower and the thread confirms it.

I'm going to try to be fucking useful now, hold on a second.


ITS ALWAYS IN THE SHOWER hahaha.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 17:28 GMT
#2065
On July 25 2016 01:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 01:52 DCWasabi wrote:
GRACK is the scummiest fucking scum ever born, and I'm going to show you why...

Grack is saying that Prplz probably got a red check on me, but that is fucking impossible and he knows it.
First of all those posts:

On July 24 2016 22:09 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm pretty sure Prplhz got a red check on DCW, so that's where my vote is going.


On July 25 2016 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Nah Koshi you're just making me paranoid at this point. DCW left room for TW and Skynx to be mafia in his list. And he's decided that he's just going to roll over today. He probably knows that he's been checked and doesn't want to reveal any information now.



Well, Prpl thought that KRUPPE was claiming cop earlier and went on a huge rage-fest about Kruppe being useless and how the real cop should fucking CC if there was one out there because otherwise Kruppe is confirmed town. Well Prpl is not going to fucking do that if he is the cop, it doesn't make any sense. He was very suspicious of Kruppe and if he was the cop then he would have CC'd... so much time passed and he didn't CC and then Kruppe ended up being the Jailkeeper, fine whatever, Kruppe was useful later.

Now GRACK was well aware of this cop business and there is no way that he forgot about it, so why does he think Prp is a cop now? **There is a more evidence for this in thread, go look, I'm just putting 1 quote**

On July 22 2016 05:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Is that a cop claim?


On July 23 2016 03:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:49 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:46 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:44 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
[quote]

And why is Kruppe not a traitor spouting lies?

Kruppe asks of you, prplhz, where do you get your info?

because no cc?


What sort of Warren does most innocent Kruppe tap into?

i don't understand this post


What sort of adept does prplhz believe Kruppe to be?

i thought you were a cop?

i guess it's easy to misunderstand the things you're saying WHEN YOU INSIST ON OBSCURING EVERYTHING AND TALKING LIKE A LUNATIC

i need a break


Why did you think this? Because Rels said so? The Rels you had a scumread on?

Kruppe raises his eyebrow most vehemently!

You said you were an adept of truth. How else were we supposed to interpret that?



Furthermore, he is obsessed with the Palmar kill. And he appears to have bussed Tumblewood.

On July 23 2016 03:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 23 2016 03:00 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 23 2016 02:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I didn't think Palmar would get killed. There's probably something worthwhile in his filter because he didn't seem overly townie.


Or that is what the mafia wants us to think, which means it is probably the reverse.

If mafia were smart they would have left Palmar alive. A bunch of people would have voted him. I would have considered it for sure. There's got to be a reason to kill him.


On July 23 2016 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:
The only thing that sticks out to me from Palmar is that he was one of the few suspicious of Tumblewood. It's either because of that or the scum team is just bad.


On July 23 2016 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Meh I'm tired of this. Tumble is a fine lynch and seems to have some support.


On July 23 2016 05:28 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were scum this game I would have come back day 2 to lynch Palmar because I fucking love lynching Palmar.



But then, he slips up because he is fucking patting himself on the back for his Palmar kill, that HE MADE.

On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm starting to realize after all why the Palmar kill was a stroke of genius right now...


On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Town needs a leader.



##vote Grack


He ain't no cop IRL or ingame, cuz I'm green as grass Mofos.

I think part of Tumbles strategy was supporting me by the way, so if he went down there would be suspicion on me and also he may have known from my last 2 games that I am suspicious of people who are suspicious of me (probably unfairly) and tend to be friendly to those who support me. I need to learn better...

Why the fuck should I not think Prplhz is cop?
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 19:04 prplhz wrote:
DCWasabi

What does this post look like from the start of the day? Yeah that's right. A fucking Cop check.

I still think Palmar was a complete shit-tier kill unless he had absolutely spectacular reads. But watching the clusterfuck last night left me longing for some Palmar in the thread.


If Haze is the cop I want him to claim it right now so wecan lynch DC.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 17:32 GMT
#2066
On July 25 2016 02:17 Skynx wrote:
SL hasn't been a massive contributor in the game, he would most definitely bus Tumble here.

DCW/Lunatic is most likely duo since i was scumreading both already. Lunas bait on Tumble turned out well hehehe

Rels is 100% confirmed town. Koshi and Grack I'm convinced are towns. Haze i was already tr'ing very early on.

I need to re-read emperor all the way, there is a decent chance he's maf with that last mim "vote grack" here but "vote tumbe" in vote thread.

You can always lynch me if you want but that'd be even worse for the town from now on cuz I was so off the mark yesterday.


The likely constilation is probably;

Koshi/Grack

SL/DC

If any of them flipped it I think we got it.

I'm just going to go with the Kruppe read and vote DC unless we get a cop claim.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 17:40 GMT
#2068
On July 25 2016 02:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 02:32 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 25 2016 02:17 Skynx wrote:
SL hasn't been a massive contributor in the game, he would most definitely bus Tumble here.

DCW/Lunatic is most likely duo since i was scumreading both already. Lunas bait on Tumble turned out well hehehe

Rels is 100% confirmed town. Koshi and Grack I'm convinced are towns. Haze i was already tr'ing very early on.

I need to re-read emperor all the way, there is a decent chance he's maf with that last mim "vote grack" here but "vote tumbe" in vote thread.

You can always lynch me if you want but that'd be even worse for the town from now on cuz I was so off the mark yesterday.


The likely constilation is probably;

Koshi/Grack

SL/DC

If any of them flipped it I think we got it.

I'm just going to go with the Kruppe read and vote DC unless we get a cop claim.

Why didn't you go with Kruppe's read yesterday? You said you wanted to hold off voting until Kruppe weighed in on the vote.


I'm just going to qoute myself:

On July 24 2016 22:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 22:18 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 22:08 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:42 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Wait is kruppe dead? I don't get if there was a night kill.

Read the spoiler.



I think I would lynch dcw today. Or sl or skynx or lunaticman.
But more likely dcw and sl.


Ok that sucks, maybe it was implied that he died of course. So even if he jailkeeped himself the mafia could kill him?

I think we should just follow kruppes read and get DC or Rels.

I also agree that SL, skynx or lunaticman looks extremly scummy from what happend. But remember Kruppe did clear me as town.


He didn't clear you at all. Just like all other players here we believe we can find mafia based on the fact they have extra information. And you play so clueless we don't associate it with mafia play. But you are not cleared. Far from.


You are also pushing a Rels lynch? For what? Kruppe only said to go Rels/Koshi if Tumble was town. If Tumble was mafia he agreed 100% with my list. He just added EC. Which I told him was ludicrous and I think he agreed. Probably didn't read his filter yet and had the same problem I had with Grack earlier. See quotes.


His real reads:
On July 24 2016 06:18 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
This is Kruppe's list of traitors:
- Tumblewood
- DCWasabi
- emperorchampion/skynx

Either Kruppe is completely wrong or wrong on at most 1 person.

Let us kill Tumblewood, friends!


On July 24 2016 06:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 24 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Oh btw Mr. Krippe, Sir.

EC is not mafia. The guy played really good through the game.


Kruppe possibly agrees. The third traitor is somewhat of a mystery.


Yes you are correct, I just vaugly remembered Rels and DC was mentioned by kruppe the last time I checked.

If that is true I see no reason why we would not lynch DC.

And I am not clueless, I was the one who got the train started on tumble, although it was for the wrong reasons. If you check my filter I knew there was a mafia between Koshi/tumble. Dont blame me for beliving him. He did convince me he was town later which was obviously wrong. That is why I wanted to switch the lynch to Koshi instead. We are lucky I didn't manage to sway enough votes between me and SL.

And to say I'm pushing is a bit harsh, I assumed he wanted us to lynch them which you can tell by the way I phrased the sentence, do you have to post perfect everytime and check every filter? I think that is not the way the game is supposed to be played. I mean there is a reason you cant edit right? however I thank you for correcting me.

I agree you shouldn't be correct every time. But I found it odd that in your posts the names EC and Rels popped up while it is very clear the names DCW/sicklucker should be way more prominent.

And you are not clueless about the game of mafia. You clearly know how it should be played. But you are always doing these things... Like push Tumble/Koshi/Kruppe as a group of people but not say who is the most likely mafia. When did you say Tumble was likely mafia and we should lynch him? You talked more about Kruppe being mafia while the guy was OBVIOUS blue... That is what I mean with clueless.

Same thing around TW lynch.


I understand what you are saying and I know it is hard to read like all my filter I'll explain my plan again starting day 2:

It felt like the mafia was using my hyperactivity to throw shade in many different directions. So I set my sight on making two traps for them.

One for kruppe in which I wanted someone to CC him. I knew from his tone that I thought he was town and it would have been easy for me to train the CC:er as an mafia. This plan did not succeed.

And one in which we lynched either Koshi or Tumblewood. I knew that both of these players were trying to build a reputation for being townies together with me. It is a common strategy to have at least one mafia try to lead the town since the risk is very worth it.

So I tried pushing those three names over and over. The town agreed with me after a discussion and we started to train Tumble. The problem here is that it felt like Tumble was a townie and he convinced me. This put the fear of god into me and I thought that the hammer would get a green townie on tumble.

This left Koshi as an obvious mafia and by association Graci. That is why I came to the conclusion that there should be at least 2 mafia amongst the 5 orginal votes for tumble.

The town didn't want to lynch koshi but with the help of SL (who thought a lot like me for good or bad). We started switching for Graci.

Now in the end EC hammered Tumble and I was really thinking its game over. But he was the godfather.

This made me reevaluate the entire thing and this should indicate that Koshi and Graci are town. I think we should just follow kruppes line of thread and go for DC.

The last mafia is probably EC because of the way he voted in the end to gain town points.


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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 17:45 GMT
#2069
On July 25 2016 02:32 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 02:17 Skynx wrote:
SL hasn't been a massive contributor in the game, he would most definitely bus Tumble here.

DCW/Lunatic is most likely duo since i was scumreading both already. Lunas bait on Tumble turned out well hehehe

Rels is 100% confirmed town. Koshi and Grack I'm convinced are towns. Haze i was already tr'ing very early on.

I need to re-read emperor all the way, there is a decent chance he's maf with that last mim "vote grack" here but "vote tumbe" in vote thread.

You can always lynch me if you want but that'd be even worse for the town from now on cuz I was so off the mark yesterday.


The likely constilation is probably;

Koshi/Grack

SL/DC

If any of them flipped it I think we got it.

I'm just going to go with the Kruppe read and vote DC unless we get a cop claim.


Also Skynx is is scummy but feels to rightious to be mafia.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 17:49 GMT
#2070
Also when kruppe came in there was precious little time left and I just thought the dice has been cast and went for Grack. The situation was to fragile since I sincerely thought Tumble was town.

But because Tumble fliped godfather there is a high possibility Grack and Koshi are town while SL and I look super scummy.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 18:47 GMT
#2076
Haha it made perfect sense but it is nice to see you finally had the courage to try and get rid of me.

Tbh your arguments are inflated and doesn't make sense. I explained quite adequately, there are two possible scenarios at play depending on what tumble flipped.

SL and I only looked suspicious depending on the tumble flip. EC gave himself a good 100% townread by his action

Are you butthurt because you almost got lynched?

I'm fine with getting lynched but then you have to do this when I flip green:

Koshi/Grac (ps: I like how koshi stopped posting at the same time as grac even though he said they were going to watch the show together when I called them on it, feels super scummy)

and/or

SL/DC

one should reveal the other.

scummy behaviour:
EC because of the voting






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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 18:48 GMT
#2077
Besides how can it be scummy to admit you are wrong and then try to make the right decision? takes a man to do that follow kruppe!
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 19:06 GMT
#2085
There are only 2 mafia left so at least one of you really needs to explain why your not following kruppes read.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 19:11 GMT
#2088
On July 24 2016 06:12 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe believes in SL's heart and thoughts, but Kruppe believes other conclusions can be drawn.

If tumble is mafia a mafia likely joined the wagon at around 3rd or 4th vote.

So >1 mafia on tumble.

Kruppe does not believe it is unreasonable to think there's a mafia between Skynx and DCWasabi.

Tumble would never vote for himself.


Word...
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 19:14 GMT
#2090
On July 25 2016 04:07 Skynx wrote:
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On July 25 2016 04:06 Lunaticman wrote:
There are only 2 mafia left so at least one of you really needs to explain why your not following kruppes read.

You mean DCW? Because he does nothing this game and all the confusion came from you. You pull all the strings this game.


If I was and I was mafia. I would have hammered Tumble 10/10 times. The same can be said for SL and EC.

The one who did it though was EC.

What I don't understand is how Koshi and Grac can rate me higher than DC.

They have been shading me all game together with Skynx.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 19:18 GMT
#2092
I am going to revisit the list atm it feels like one out of these pairs is a mafia. And if one is there is a strong possibility the other is too:

Grac/Koshi

SL/DC

EC/Skynx

Kruppe vouched for SL and me. Kruppe said DC was mafia, Haze also said DC is mafia.

I can see no reason not to go for DC.

Remember I was also the one that would have lynched tumble unless he conviced me he was town. That is basically the only argument against me tbh.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 19:19 GMT
#2093
On July 25 2016 04:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Why do you want to follow Kruppe's reads right now?


because he was right and a blue role?
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 24 2016 19:30 GMT
#2095
I swear to god koshi/grac if you lynch me and I flip green, the town is going to go ham on you. It would suck if you both are green.
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