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On June 10 2016 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 14:28 sicklucker wrote:On June 10 2016 14:21 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 10 2016 14:18 sicklucker wrote: if art is mafia the way ve's day went by makes him probably his partner so art/rels/ve. The cc was very convenient ifor ve's life expectancy. as scum or town he had given up.
but this cc MAKES ON SENSE IF ves town. because why the fuck would mafia go for a 1for 1 trade when ve was an auto lynch what the hell does buying VE another day do if artanis is scum? VE is not even playing the game. It would be better for scum for VE to CC if they are going to do stupid shit. Like I don't understand why I am still arguing this, but in the back of my mind given the quality of this game I wouldn't be surprised if these shit plays are actually happening. well if they are a team it seems like art calmed him down into trying with the claim. Ve is trying now. If art didnt cc its very likely ve would have continued not trying seeing all the votes against him after he self voted wtf??? If he wanted to convince VE to keep playing why wouldn't he do that in their QT?? like your logic makes 0 sense. I don't understand how you can actually think this
yes thats where this conversation would have happened. and since art entered the game ve seems to be trying again. There is association here man thats all im saying
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On June 10 2016 14:36 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 14:32 sicklucker wrote:On June 10 2016 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 10 2016 14:28 sicklucker wrote:On June 10 2016 14:21 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 10 2016 14:18 sicklucker wrote: if art is mafia the way ve's day went by makes him probably his partner so art/rels/ve. The cc was very convenient ifor ve's life expectancy. as scum or town he had given up.
but this cc MAKES ON SENSE IF ves town. because why the fuck would mafia go for a 1for 1 trade when ve was an auto lynch what the hell does buying VE another day do if artanis is scum? VE is not even playing the game. It would be better for scum for VE to CC if they are going to do stupid shit. Like I don't understand why I am still arguing this, but in the back of my mind given the quality of this game I wouldn't be surprised if these shit plays are actually happening. well if they are a team it seems like art calmed him down into trying with the claim. Ve is trying now. If art didnt cc its very likely ve would have continued not trying seeing all the votes against him after he self voted wtf??? If he wanted to convince VE to keep playing why wouldn't he do that in their QT?? like your logic makes 0 sense. I don't understand how you can actually think this yes thats where this conversation would have happened. and since art entered the game ve seems to be trying again. There is association here man thats all im saying THEN WHY WOULD HE CC okay, this is really not that hard, but I feel like I'm going to get a brain hemorrhage if I have to explain this one more time. Put yourself in Artanis's shoes. Pretend you have just replaced into the game and you get the role PM that you are scum. You're catching up on the thread, you've spent a couple minutes reading backwards. Since Day just ended you see that someone claimed tracker. And you see that someone claimed doctor and your team shot them last night. You know that it's an open setup, so there can be no other town power roles. So, instead of just killing the claimed tracker on n2, you decide to counter claim him, KNOWING THAT IT WILL RESULT IN YOUR OWN DEATH. And you're telling me you think he did that, just because that play somehow convinces his teammate to keep trying? If that happened on my scum team I would be more likely to continue to not play than be convinced I should try, because that is literally the dumbest thing any scum teammate could do. I would be so demoralized that the first player in that slot fucked off and didn't do anything and was replaced by a complete idiot who decided to kill himself within the first 10 minutes of him joining the game.
your right that is pretty dumb
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On June 10 2016 14:36 Damdred wrote: Like maybe lynching ve is the correct move if this is a play to save the RB which might be Ve. It would force mafia to kill the real tracker and then you Lynch the cc that survives the night.
If they both survive they get a free track and town gains info at the flip
but then dandred says smart stuff like this
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dandreds logic is probably wrong there tho but that seems pretty townie but maybe im a fool
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I think if your just going to lynch ve after the claimsno matter what then it is correct to lynch ve even for only a small chance at another track/make mafia kill the real tracker for us. but who knows how we will think about ve next week which is when like that lynch would go down. alot can happen
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SO we have 1/3rd that want to lynch dandred 1/3rd that want to lynch artanis and we have 1/3rd of people who want to lynch outside the claims or whatever.
Koshi do you really think ve can be town if artanis is mafia tho?
Your saying artanis just decides to save ve from getting lynched to go for a 1 for 1 trade? In that scenerio he had a mislynch already why would he claim? seems really stupid
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all hope for consensus is lost. and we got everyone calling everyone an idiot to boot
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well if everyones just doing their own fucking thing look who has contributed zero
##vote rels
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altho I think its important to flip one of the trackers because we can figure out ve's alignment from that. but na lets just do random shit right koshi
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na your wrong. no fucking scum is gonna fucking make a bad cc for a 1 for 1 trade when were already fucking lynching a town. we can figure out ves alignment form knowing artanis's alignment or vice versa
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artanis was not even the lynch today. he was like MAYBE the next in line but alot of shit can happen. Everyone has their own opinions on who to lynch people are all over. Theres no reason fucking mafia would ever give up a free lynch so my point stands.
Maybe your right and artanis is lazy thats possible and the best point you brought up
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"Because the longer it waits the more chance there is that Damdred shows he is town and Artanis shows he isn't."
then why the fuck would he put himself in a scenario where its him or me? Lets say artanis is mafia why the fuck does he not just like say nk dandred. why does he fake claim putting himself against dandred? There is so much easier people to lynch in this game. Theirs fucknig chez theres fucking lynchbait god tumbleweed, Ls exists. Those are three people who I tihkn are town but usually get lynched everygame. seems a weird thing to do idk. DOnt get me wrong im leaning art scum its just really fucking weird
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if art is mafia the team is exactly art/ve/rels. If its dandred I have no fucking idea probably still rels
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if dandreds mafia your confirmed town. happy?
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im giving you like a 50/50 shot here bro! thats a better shake then the rest!
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I dont think I have ever played against mafia ve
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ya fiffty fiffty either you are or you aint
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On June 10 2016 18:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:05 Palmar wrote: Also Damdred being mafia sort of makes sense if my memory of yesterday is right.
If I remember correctly, shape claimed and so there was some confusion and Damdred started emerging as potentially the lynch target so he just immediately claimed too without putting much effort into actually defending himself. he was going to get lynched 100% after Shape claimed. So he would claim as either alignment.
no he would claim 4 out of 12 times. 3 of the 4 times when hes mafia and 1 of 4 times when hes the acual tracker. math is hard. I would like to think the 8 other times dandred the vt would not claim but I have acualy seen dandred claim roles as vt before...
Now that I think about it I really hope thats not whats happening here that makes so much sense. but dandred is acitivly trying to get art lynched so na
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On June 10 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote: If Damdred and Rels are mafia I can really just quit mafia tbh.
we can only hope
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