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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2016 15:13 GMT
#623
Ok looks like I've only got about an hour this morning before I'm heading out for the day.

Gunna stuff my face and get some caffeine in my system then talk about some stuff.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2016 15:34 GMT
#626
Ok first thing I feel like talking about, reading based on activity.

Generally I find this to be an unreliable metric. There is some correlation, but it depends pretty heavily on the player in question. Scum can be tryhard and post a ton and town can loose interest or get busy and post very little.

My point?

Plynches based on activity tend to be coin flippy and giving someone a townread kus they are active and posting is weak at best.

It's generally better practice to try and look at the reasons and modivations behind when and why people are posting rather than try and use filter length as a metic. There are some exceptions such as scum-burn out, but even then activity alone is usually not your only indicator.

So the reads I've seen so far like "This dude made a hello post then left! Lynch the scum!" or "Well he's posting a lot so I think he's town" are pretty piss poor imo.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2016 15:55 GMT
#628
Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads.

Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching.

Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler +
For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads
but I feel fairly confident in it.

Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1.

blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something

There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2016 16:33 GMT
#635
Ok I piddled around too long and am not going to be able to elaborate as much as I wanted to about my scum reads, but here is the short and sweet version.

QT - There is just too many inconsistencies in his play for me to overlook. He pushed Super early for "trying to look town" + Show Spoiler +
which is a terrible reason to scumread anyone, especially when that doesn't reall describe Super's play at all imo
and then scum reads me for basically doing the opposite + Show Spoiler +
not openly giving my reads
. His posts in general feel pretty disjointed and his thoughts sometimes backtrack or dissapear for no reason + Show Spoiler +
Sorry no time for examples
. Combined with some of the points other people have made about his flippant and largely unfounded reads and dismissve approach to questions... yea this guy is top of my lynch list.

Emperorchampion - I liked his open, but the rest of his posts fall flat and he quickly dropped the attitude he started with. The way he spent a lot of effort filterdiving QT + Show Spoiler +
filters so early in the game?
to come up with a townread on him, then made a townread on Tumble with much less effort and used Tumble's thoughts to conclude that Jealous is scum is really off.

Thats it for now, I may get a chance to post later tonight, but likely won't be around till tomorrow.

##Vote: QuickTwist
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 04:11 GMT
#709
On June 05 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
@tumble what makes you wanna plynch sqrt instead of fecalfeast who is yet to post a word since daypost.


On June 05 2016 04:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Got drunk and forgot. Give me a bit i have 390 posts to read


Just taking note of who summoned FF to the game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 04:19 GMT
#710
Nope, I'm actually not here for awhile.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 17:37 GMT
#791
Humm the weekend start is keeping this game pretty dry I see.

I might skim over the game again then since there isn't much new to read, and nothing in the past few pages has really swayed my opinion.

I'm trying to decide how I feel about Scott's slot. Was sorta thinking the way the replacement happened could mean scott's is town, but thats pretty WIFOM and I'm mostly just grasping at straws. Sqrt's opening game posts just felt chatty and not really AI (alignment indicative) but show that he was around and ready to play the first hour of the game. Scott's posts leave a little to be desired... and I'm not sure why he seems so concerned I don't have Jealous as a hard town read.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2016 08:34 scott31337 wrote:
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On June 05 2016 00:55 Tictock wrote:
Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads.

Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching.

Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler +
For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads
but I feel fairly confident in it.

Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1.

blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something

There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now.


hmmm no mention of Jealous here, and so far Jealous is my only townread hmmm


Which sure I haven't given any thoughts on Jealous besides
On June 04 2016 17:01 Tictock wrote:
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On June 04 2016 10:11 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 10:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
guys, sqrtneg1
he was here and active when it was just "hello wassup"
but when people started talking actual content, he disappeared.

Whereas you contributed what exactly?


This is a terrible post to townread someone by, but I def want to keep you around now.


I'm reserving my right to hold off giving a real read on him kus a few things have raised an eyebrow but I'm overall liking his posts.


Honestly scott just seems like a coinflip atm and I'm not feeling inclined to lynch him.

I'd like to know why people are keen to lynch him/his slot but nobody seems to be considering FF who arguably has done just as little.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 18:22 GMT
#799
Skynx was brought up and I had some misgivings regarding his opening (was going to include him in my post yesturday but ran out of time).

On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean".

I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well.

This also bugged me
On June 04 2016 08:47 Skynx wrote:
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On June 04 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


Do you think quicky (QT) is town?

He doesn't sound scummy (yet)


Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean).

I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static.
On June 04 2016 09:37 Skynx wrote:
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On June 04 2016 09:32 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:29 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:21 Skynx wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote:
@Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost.


? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no?

What? Those were after my first post of the day not sure what you're on about.
My point was him making 4 reads is impossible cuz im the 5th poster and he's one out of 4 others. I somehow missed Tumble but yeah i dont think they are serious.


Ah ok so you didn't see exactly 4 down reads. But youbsaw his 3 townreads.
Less exciting now.


Typing on a phone is difficult apparently.

So when you say that quicks townreads aren't serious. Would you consider that cluttering the thread or being clear?

Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake.
They both sound scummy.


Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already.

I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today.




Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together.

I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 18:37 GMT
#802
On June 06 2016 01:02 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 05 2016 00:55 Tictock wrote:
Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads.

Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching.

Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler +
For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads
but I feel fairly confident in it.

Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1.

blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something

There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now.


Just Where the fuck are these reads coming from anyways?


At least I gave you a little one sentence summary of why I TR these people.

On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote:
OK I reread the thread, here are my reads:

Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch.

The Town AF people are:

Emperorchampion
blkcoffee
beentheredonethat
Tumblewood

These are the people I will not be voting all game.





And FYI my first 3-4 posts were very much so not serious and just poking for reactions. You seemed to understand this earlier.

On June 04 2016 09:25 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 04 2016 09:24 Tictock wrote:
On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
PREGAME READS

7)Ticktock - not sure what the difference between this guy and tumblewood is. both names start with t and both play low to moderate activity.


Wow, doesn't even have a real pre-game read on me... Has to reference Tumble just to have some content.

Clearly mafia.

##Vote nnn_shwagmountains


You're Joking. You have to be.


Part of my own read on you was because you made that post then jumped onboard when someone gave you some reasoning for it to be scummy.

On June 04 2016 13:31 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:28 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:24 Tictock wrote:
On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
PREGAME READS

7)Ticktock - not sure what the difference between this guy and tumblewood is. both names start with t and both play low to moderate activity.


Wow, doesn't even have a real pre-game read on me... Has to reference Tumble just to have some content.

Clearly mafia.

##Vote nnn_shwagmountains


You're Joking. You have to be.

Or seeding disinformation and confusion.


Thanks for this.

Town on Jealous.


I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 18:38 GMT
#803
Ok now I'm taking a break.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 19:48 GMT
#820
When did you vote for Moosy Super? how did I miss that...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 20:08 GMT
#848
On June 06 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote:
I dislike that everyone was scumreading quicky that quickly (lolol), but I also don't like how quicky has been playing.

Tbh, I have looked up a game of quicky on another site (town game), and quickly looked through it on Friday. He struck me as a decently clever town player. I'm kind of missing that feeling here. He feels very defensive and uncomfortable.

But I'm pussying out and voting kush.


I kinda agree, the general flow of the game and how the votes are going seem to signal a very low key scum team that is probably not up for lynch atm.

QT is also giving me vibes that he's not really to concerned with the pressure atm which isn't really in line with a try-hard scum playing the activity game. I'm wondering if he's a player more like Moosy who's play can be pretty questionable and is lynchbait. While he's kinda all over the place and I have a hard time tracking much line of thought he is being pretty consistent about putting stuff out there.

Is your desire to lynch kush based on meta, or is it more policy due to him being pretty lackluster and only pushing a plynch himself?

I think I might be more keen on lynching Skynx myself.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 20:14 GMT
#858
QT what was your reasoning for claiming VT now?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 20:20 GMT
#863
On June 06 2016 05:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 05:08 Tictock wrote:
On June 06 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote:
I dislike that everyone was scumreading quicky that quickly (lolol), but I also don't like how quicky has been playing.

Tbh, I have looked up a game of quicky on another site (town game), and quickly looked through it on Friday. He struck me as a decently clever town player. I'm kind of missing that feeling here. He feels very defensive and uncomfortable.

But I'm pussying out and voting kush.


I kinda agree, the general flow of the game and how the votes are going seem to signal a very low key scum team that is probably not up for lynch atm.

QT is also giving me vibes that he's not really to concerned with the pressure atm which isn't really in line with a try-hard scum playing the activity game. I'm wondering if he's a player more like Moosy who's play can be pretty questionable and is lynchbait. While he's kinda all over the place and I have a hard time tracking much line of thought he is being pretty consistent about putting stuff out there.

Is your desire to lynch kush based on meta, or is it more policy due to him being pretty lackluster and only pushing a plynch himself?

I think I might be more keen on lynching Skynx myself.


Skynx has been meh iirc. But newbies are generally somewhat harder to read.

Kush hasn't really picked a direction and his pregame and ingame are off. Pregame he seemed very excited but ingame he hasn't been pro-active except for a shitty plynch push on scott which ended up being nothing.


Ah yea, it is true the disparity in his pre-game to in-game is real.

I thought he mostly plays from work so was kinda giving his low activity on the weekend a pass.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 20:34 GMT
#874
On June 06 2016 05:15 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 06 2016 05:14 Tictock wrote:
QT what was your reasoning for claiming VT now?


I'm getting lynched, Duh.


It's just... if you are VT and decided to open the game by claiming Blue (having a PR) then I can only assume you did so to create some discussion and in a very off chance draw mafia KP.

If it looks like you are getting lynched then I'm not sure why you would change your plans there and claim VT instead.

Like if I were in your shoes I'd go full fake claim to try and get the wagon off me and draw mafia KP tonight. Chance you get lynched anyways but hey you are only VT, and if you convince people you are blue you have a good chance at drawing KP. Sure you are setting yourself up to die one way or another, but if you wanted to play the long game you probably don't open with a fake claim to be a PR.

So claiming VT now as an "hey don't lynch me I'm just town and not important" doesn't really make sense. It seems more like a play for survival especially since you literally said,
On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 06 2016 05:01 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2016 04:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 06 2016 04:21 Jealous wrote:
As far as the other posters, I'm glad that people have started pushing some ideas around as we approach the deadline. Here are some thoughts I have on the game so far:

1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like.

2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum.

3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results.

4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is:

1. Kushmountains
2. Tumblewood
3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all)
4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have)

and of course QT.

Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago.


What if I said YOU could be scum if I turn out to be Town. Baseless you think?

Honestly it is really freaking annoying you haven't re-evaluated your read on me and somehow everything I do is scummy to you. That is the definition of confirmation bias.

So because you have chosen to no re-evaluate your read on me, even though my content has improved as the shit posting of day 1 decreases. can't help but think you are pushing an agenda.

Claiming VT.

##Vote: Jealous

Your only concrete argument as far as I recall is the one you just made, which is that I am pushing an agenda, so it's not entirely baseless. However, as objective as I can possibly be about this, I would have to say that your argument is weak. The majority of the town has read me as town, and for some that was a choice between scumreading me or you.

I will concede that your posting has definitely improved since the first 24 hours.

I see what you mean by confirmation bias now more clearly. I will justify by saying it is akin to how one approaches science: you formulate a hypothesis, run a test, gather some data, try to ascertain a conclusion. Then you present your article for peer review. So far peer review has corroborated my initial findings. The initial results will be put to the test after we see the flop.

Although you claimed Blue PR since the first minutes of the game, which could've meant anything since you were shitposting a lot in that time, this is the first time you've claimed VT. MoosyDoosy also claimed VT, if I'm correct in assuming VT = Veteran, but his posting has been inconsistent too. I'm not saying this to make any sort of point, just doing stream of consciousness at the moment. I don't think it'd be wise of you to claim Blue PR if you actually were a Blue PR in the first minutes of the game, because scum would know that you are not scum, and thus when both the Day 1 lynch and the first scum kill are relative stabs in the dark, this seems like a poor strategy because it paints a target on your back. Of course, this could backfire and cause us to do scum's work for them, but I believe that there is no stronger case right now for anyone else and thus I will maintain my vote for you.


OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow.


Which just says to me "Hey don't hurt me, I'm not important"
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 20:34 GMT
#876
I'm gunna run to the store then I'll be back for the rest of the phase.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 21:37 GMT
#890
On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.

kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.



Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 21:39 GMT
#894
On June 06 2016 05:42 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 05:34 Tictock wrote:
On June 06 2016 05:15 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 06 2016 05:14 Tictock wrote:
QT what was your reasoning for claiming VT now?


I'm getting lynched, Duh.


It's just... if you are VT and decided to open the game by claiming Blue (having a PR) then I can only assume you did so to create some discussion and in a very off chance draw mafia KP.

If it looks like you are getting lynched then I'm not sure why you would change your plans there and claim VT instead.

Like if I were in your shoes I'd go full fake claim to try and get the wagon off me and draw mafia KP tonight. Chance you get lynched anyways but hey you are only VT, and if you convince people you are blue you have a good chance at drawing KP. Sure you are setting yourself up to die one way or another, but if you wanted to play the long game you probably don't open with a fake claim to be a PR.

So claiming VT now as an "hey don't lynch me I'm just town and not important" doesn't really make sense. It seems more like a play for survival especially since you literally said,
On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 06 2016 05:01 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2016 04:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 06 2016 04:21 Jealous wrote:
As far as the other posters, I'm glad that people have started pushing some ideas around as we approach the deadline. Here are some thoughts I have on the game so far:

1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like.

2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum.

3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results.

4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is:

1. Kushmountains
2. Tumblewood
3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all)
4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have)

and of course QT.

Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago.


What if I said YOU could be scum if I turn out to be Town. Baseless you think?

Honestly it is really freaking annoying you haven't re-evaluated your read on me and somehow everything I do is scummy to you. That is the definition of confirmation bias.

So because you have chosen to no re-evaluate your read on me, even though my content has improved as the shit posting of day 1 decreases. can't help but think you are pushing an agenda.

Claiming VT.

##Vote: Jealous

Your only concrete argument as far as I recall is the one you just made, which is that I am pushing an agenda, so it's not entirely baseless. However, as objective as I can possibly be about this, I would have to say that your argument is weak. The majority of the town has read me as town, and for some that was a choice between scumreading me or you.

I will concede that your posting has definitely improved since the first 24 hours.

I see what you mean by confirmation bias now more clearly. I will justify by saying it is akin to how one approaches science: you formulate a hypothesis, run a test, gather some data, try to ascertain a conclusion. Then you present your article for peer review. So far peer review has corroborated my initial findings. The initial results will be put to the test after we see the flop.

Although you claimed Blue PR since the first minutes of the game, which could've meant anything since you were shitposting a lot in that time, this is the first time you've claimed VT. MoosyDoosy also claimed VT, if I'm correct in assuming VT = Veteran, but his posting has been inconsistent too. I'm not saying this to make any sort of point, just doing stream of consciousness at the moment. I don't think it'd be wise of you to claim Blue PR if you actually were a Blue PR in the first minutes of the game, because scum would know that you are not scum, and thus when both the Day 1 lynch and the first scum kill are relative stabs in the dark, this seems like a poor strategy because it paints a target on your back. Of course, this could backfire and cause us to do scum's work for them, but I believe that there is no stronger case right now for anyone else and thus I will maintain my vote for you.


OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow.


Which just says to me "Hey don't hurt me, I'm not important"


Fantastic logic. One problem though. What happens when we lynch a different townie today and then people find out my claim is bogus so I get lynched anyways? I rather have 1 town die than two, its that simple.


Why are you assuming we'd lynch a townie if we don't lynch you?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 21:43 GMT
#899
On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:
On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.

kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.



Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him?

tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia.


Yea ok, I can see that.

And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well.

Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm.

Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 22:07 GMT
#913
On June 06 2016 06:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 06:43 Tictock wrote:
On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:
On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.

kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.



Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him?

tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia.


Yea ok, I can see that.

And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well.

Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm.

Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch.

i'm giving out all the fluffy wovey dovey town vibes. :D which is strange for me. O.O does that mean I'm scum? o/


Does it?

I kinda got more of a sense of a low-key version of the town play I recall from you. Though if it makes you feel better you are my weakest townread due to it being such a long time since I've played with you or seen your play.
I can take that responsibility.
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