[M][N]A Wonderful Normal Game of Mafia

On April 27 2016 11:42 Mig wrote:
/in

On April 29 2016 04:21 Mig wrote:
Without jat who is going to yell at me and tell me how bad I am?

On May 04 2016 00:17 justanothertownie wrote:

lol

Amazing timing. I actually just came back from the doc and I apparently caught some kind of norovirus.

On May 04 2016 00:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv is mafia.

On May 04 2016 00:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
so you guys don't want to policy lynch palmar for not being here day 1?

On May 04 2016 00:42 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
For some reason marv/jat banter pisses me off.

On May 04 2016 00:43 RiceyKins wrote:


I'd rather not without knowing the reason. I think Shape said he had a slow start last game and got lynched for it too?

On May 04 2016 00:46 RiceyKins wrote:
I'm saying I want to know the policy before agreeing marv. Goes for you too Kush

On May 04 2016 00:53 RiceyKins wrote:
the way he said it made me think it was specific to Palmar. my mistake then Marv.

On May 04 2016 01:01 Shapelog wrote:

LightingStrike?

On May 04 2016 02:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


At first I was like damn marv's being perceptive.
And then I was like ...really though?

I would speak about what Shape said about Palmar with the same vagueness and uncertainty. Shape alluded to his last game with Palmar but included none of the specifics, as far as I remember.
So I'm kinda sus of you for making such a big deal about it.

On May 04 2016 04:30 Killing wrote:
I like:

kushhill
marv

I do not like:

Shape
Ricey

I have terrible reasons for all of these and probably will not disclose cause they make me sound like an idiot but since no one is talking yep

On May 04 2016 09:20 Tubesock wrote:


Did it go anywhere?

Did your opinion of Killing change at all after his response?

On May 04 2016 10:31 Fazers wrote:
To address your questions:

I want to lynch Killing possibly, he's making a bit of noise. I guess activity is pretty good early on to form
initiative, but a lot of bold accusations imo.

I don't care about people who are inactive in this game so far. It's been a little quiet.

I have a strong opinion about Shapelog - imo he's a strong player from my observations. Thus I will not vote to lynch him on Day 1. However, that may change as days pass.

On May 04 2016 10:58 RiceyKins wrote:
I don't think bold accusations are inherently bad Fazers, but I disagree that Killing is being bold with his claims. If one of his reasons for suspecting me is saying sorry to Marv idk I find that rather weak actually and it's personal bias considering I was actually misunderstanding something and he cleared it up for me.

I also think going after Shape at this point is just plain bad. At first I thought Shape was a little too friendly with Kush and trying to parrot his opinions but after re-reading his filter that isn't really the case and I think he's made the best points out of any of us so far. So I dunno why out of everybody here he would put the two of us on a list together when honestly speaking we're on opposite ends in terms of contributions for town. That's somewhat strange.

On May 04 2016 12:18 justanothertownie wrote:

Making noise is not a scumtell. Bold accusations aren't either.

On May 04 2016 14:45 RiceyKins wrote:
Mig hasn't said a word since the game started where Dr.P has said one thing and hasn't come back. If the discussion is about which inactive player we believe should be lynched I'll go with Dr.P because he's clearly been here and made a decision not to continue but Mig is a ? and I can deal with waiting to see. It's not a great situation either way but if we're picking between the two I'd lynch Dr.P.

And yeah I think it looks rehearsed. 18 hours into the game where neither of you have shown up "Oh man JAT hasn't posted yet he must be sick!" 5 minutes later "Ha Ha oh Marv I just came back from the doctor cause I'm sick". If you don't think that's some oddly good timing and an insane coincidence idk Considering there's almost nothing else to mention about the two of you to this point yeah its suspect. You also don't have to be lying about coming back from the doctor, it's very possible Marv knew and just waited for you to be around to put on a show.

On May 04 2016 15:04 Alakaslam wrote:

This is epic

Bro-fist on the seeing through homeopathic stuff "lemonade will cure your cancer!" Lol. Riiiiiiiight so my cousin's UCLA grad level research in the matter is pointless because lemons. That literally insults her work.

Yet it is like my posting, I post half-ass jokes and that gets me a town pass? Isn't half the joke based on the fact that this usually happens? I have set the bar for myself so low that I can cruise through 90% of my games suspicion free.

So I find we are a bit too inactive here and will probably need to start voting video people to get them to start talking. Fear of talking is a factor, but when you are already up for lunch you have nothing to lose and start talking.

So let's do that. ##Vote: Etellex

Get my vote off you sir. Why aren't you just lurking scum? You can't get a read; fine. But nothing at all to say? Scum is a lot scarier then town, sir, so... New or not I am inclined to actually lean scum on you. Prove me wrong.

On May 04 2016 15:08 Tubesock wrote:
I'll support this.

##Vote: Etellex

On May 04 2016 20:51 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea actually. Your post made me remember that one.

On May 04 2016 20:54 justanothertownie wrote:

Maybe but on the other hand I would be more inclined to believe he actually genuinely thought that if he would NOT be familiar with our play.

On May 04 2016 20:56 Tubesock wrote:
I think this answers your question and also explains how he can relate.

On May 04 2016 20:56 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i think i'm confusing myself.

one momento

On May 04 2016 21:04 Tubesock wrote:
I think you guys are being over dramatic about his scumming you. He said you're both nulls and thought the coincidence was strange.

I don't get why it matters if he knows your reputations or not.

He'd know you're both good players, maybe he doesn't know you enough to know you don't do crazy shit. You're good enough to do crazy shit though. And even then if he hasn't played in awhile then he woldn't know if you could do crazy shit or not.

Why is this such a big deal?

On May 04 2016 21:19 Tubesock wrote:
No marv. It's kinda simple to me. I can see someone seeing your entrance and being suspicious. I do think you'd have to think a little deeper about it to come to the conclusion that there is 0% chance mafia would do that. You can call Ricey scummy for not thinking deeply sure. To me he was a bit confused about what was going on and said something. And you guys are taking his comments as him meaning more than they do.

On May 04 2016 21:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


May I explain it?
Mafia hard it hard to interact with each other. They know each other are scummy but don't want to lynch each other.
So by forcing yourself to have a natural conversation, you are making your interactions not look like s/s.

On May 04 2016 21:37 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
marv, the point was that it seemed unnatural in that you tried too hard to make it seem natural.

On May 04 2016 21:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


You are missing Ricey's point I think. It's not the coincidence that you were there at the same time as much as the banter itself. Which felt forced and awkward to him (and annoying to me).

On May 04 2016 21:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
um this is more of a defense of ricey than an attack on you and jat. I usually try not to make reads day 1.

On May 04 2016 21:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

I don't remember it enough to do that. It seemed natural enough to me, not that you couldn't have a natural conversation as scum on scum.

I am more just trying to interpret what ricey said.

On May 04 2016 21:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
yeah he said marv waited around for jat to come back. okok
but you could have planned it out in the qt and been like "hehe let's do our little banter then if one of us flips scum the other can argue that they are town by banter connections"

On May 04 2016 21:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
marv, I think that's exactly what ricey was imagining in his firt post. and in the second post he backtracked a little to say it was more about the tone of the conversation rather than the coincidence?

On May 04 2016 21:53 Killing wrote:
Marv, hope on the "isn't really great logical sense" train with me. We're gonna have a wild ride

On May 04 2016 21:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

yes but his situation is a little different because he is both somewhat inexperienced and hasn't played in a long time. maybe.

kind of a dumb thing I backed myself into arguing about here.

On May 04 2016 22:04 Tubesock wrote:


Go ahead.

You've wasted how many pages talking about this thing that you already said you're not gunning for Ricey. You have not scum hunted at all. The one thing you did was ask about a question mark. Even that you said you thought he was town before and after.

On May 05 2016 19:51 Palmar wrote:

I don't lurk as mafia. You know that I take special pride in not fucking my team over when I'm mafia. I genuinely got pulled into some ridiculous overtime work this weekend and until yesterday.

On May 06 2016 06:06 Mig wrote:
Marv you claiming vet?

On May 06 2016 06:11 Mig wrote:
Why does you being shot implicate palmar over say JAT? Besides Palmar doing nothing

On May 06 2016 06:17 Shapelog wrote:
Kinda WIFOM tho tbh.

Theoretically, he could of also shot Kush, and prob. not even be incriminated by it. The only think a Scum!Palmar needed to worry about there is a save.

On May 06 2016 06:22 Shapelog wrote:

I know you are a terrible save, I was talking about Kush being saved :/

From what I know about Palmar's NK idea, it is kill whoever is on his tail. So this theory kinda does follow his kill logic from what I know.

On May 06 2016 06:25 Shapelog wrote:

Which line?

The top was me clearing something up and the bottom is something I know about Palmar mafia habits.

On May 06 2016 06:31 Shapelog wrote:

Sure!
What is his favorite color?

On May 06 2016 06:50 Palmar wrote:
yeah I'm not mafia because I would never shoot marv. To even suggest that is preposterous

On May 06 2016 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:
And that Marv, if scum, would have to make things interesting for himself somehow? A play like this could be it.

I want a better reason for Marv to lunch palmar from Marv. I am not sure about his claim solely because he jumped on palmar specifically.

Do you not know that I, as Mafia, would absolutely shoot you Marv?

On May 06 2016 18:31 justanothertownie wrote:

Oh please.

You are always making crazy plays to make playing scum more interesting . Everyone knows it.

On May 06 2016 22:41 justanothertownie wrote:

epic marv wisdom

On May 07 2016 02:38 Alakaslam wrote:
I am a fan of staying the course. Palmar seems too townie right now.

Call him svengali master but he has pretty much convinced me that others could have shot Marv.

On May 07 2016 03:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
that seems too risky for alakaslam if palmar is scum.

he gains nothing due to his low influence.
he risks a lot due to the probability that palmar will be lynched.

On May 07 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
Which post is actually scummy jat?

Btw, Etellex is now my new friend. I don't trust slam as much.

Also, someone somewhere said I was townreading marv on day 1. That's not really true, I just prefer to not call him mafia until I have a reason to to make my life easier.

Killing still sounds overly hostile and annoyed. he's probably mafia.

On May 07 2016 09:57 Fazers wrote:
I'm not seeing how Palmar can be scum...

On May 08 2016 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Btw this is my plan for today.

The correct lynch is to kill sandroba.

I am still going to vote killing because he sounds like mafia.

it's looking more and more like I won't be able to play at any kind of full time effort in the next few days. I don't think however that should really matter I've been fairly clear with the things I actually have an opinion on and I'm just gonna rely more on tone than usual.

I think Marv is town. I think JAT is town.

I think etellex doesn't sound like mafia and while I can't remember why, I think fazer also doesn't sound like mafia

If there is strong mafia its mig. He's been sort of clean although I disliked his day 1 read on JAT. However he's also got some statistics with him for example it's generally a terrible idea to lynch a guy who leads a mislynch on day 1

Shapelog could very well be mafia mostly because I keep ignoring everything he says. He's basically a loud background noise which often means people are mafia

Slam sandroba riceykins I have little opinion on. Ricey not sheeping on me might be a tiny bit odd (tmi) but meh

Killing sounds annoyed and it's not just now towards me. For some reason his day 1 comment about town doing well felt weird too.

I am phone posting this and will only be occasionally available on phone through the day. And if I don't get lynched don't expect any magic tomorrow either

On May 09 2016 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:

So, where are you at?Sandro/fazers?

On May 09 2016 05:19 justanothertownie wrote:

Very helpful. You are probably dead in less than an hour.

On May 09 2016 05:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Any noteworthy townreads at least?

On May 20 2016 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I honestly thought marv is mafia because i couldn't understand why he seemed so "sure" Tubesock is scum. I mean like, 4 players made the same "argument" about marv's play (something i noticed aswell obsing the game), all of those people were town. The "his vote looks way worse than Slam's" argument i never ever even understood because for me it was pretyty clear what Tubesock was doing. idk..

That's basically what he did in the game + he tried to actually find mafia and push the people he thought are mafia...