TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 8

On March 27 2016 09:52 Koshi wrote:
why are all my scumreads calling each other town. That is really annoying.

On March 27 2016 10:55 sandroba wrote:

Let's say rels and vivax are mafia, wouldn't that make the wagon ytd more likely town vs mafia?
vivax said he would lynch rsoul and said he would sheep me and did neither.
rels said something along the lines "i can see rsoul being seen as scum, but not over tube"

Both of which seem like a thing mafia would do, not like they would push extremelly hard against the lynch onto a town. I don't understand where people are comming from insisting in this town vs town wagon idea.

On March 27 2016 12:59 justanothertownie wrote:

Why? Palmar said he would compensate for his activity policy with vigs.

On March 27 2016 20:26 Kurumi wrote:
I shot Koshi and he is still alive, any takers? Sorry I have not posted since the last post, I had to get it posted and then rush to another place, since family time!

On March 27 2016 23:03 Vivax wrote:
Sicklucker claim was bad for multiple reasons and I would expect him to be smarter than that.

He doesn't know if scum shot him.
He doesn't know if mafia can hold kp and use it doubly the next night.
He said he used his vest and he can pretend he did but then mafia just never shoots him.

Plus he seems to lack his usual interest into the puzzle. Lots of posts are just drivel, they should usually at least contain a nugget of wisdom, he says that instead of lynching TT we could wait for his modkill when this game has no activity requirements.

He also doesn't try to profile himself much by posting interesting observations, he rather says stuff like "haha i got shot for my reads".

Scum lean.

On March 27 2016 23:05 Superbia wrote:
PRs: We have seen 2 flip and 4 claimed. Together with the fact that KP was apparently reduced by 2, meaning 2 more PRs are active, or stack on stutters or mafia roleblock (is roleblock notified? Too lazy to check OP). So at least 1 protective PR (definitely in a game of this size).

So that means 7-8 PRs. Seems a bit.. much? It may very well be possible. The thing is, with so many PRs, there HAS to be a secondary mafia KP OR a 3rd party KP (even without PRs, just the number of people in the game). Where is that? Could be stack, but it would imply that the KP is 3rd party. OR sandroba was mafia vigi and claimed his shot, but this seems very unlikely because he would be confirmed mafia at a certain point in the game purely through game logic. Also kind of liked his claim. So sandroba is probably always town.

So we have:
- 2 claimed KP (Sandroba and Kurumi) on Stutters and Koshi respectively.
- >=1 mafia & >=0 3rd party KP. (together has to be >1 for game balance)

So for the secondary mafia/3rd party KP, either:
- One of the vigis is lying (would lean towards kurumi lying).
- We have a secondary medic (and a claimed PR is FOR SURE lying).
- Mafia vig or 3rd party (whichever) held their shot (unlikely) OR was roleblocked somehow.
- Mafia stacked with 3rd party and sandroba on stutters (almost never).

This doesn't tell us too much yet. However, if at some point in the game it becomes known that we have 2 medics (not today), one of the alive PRs is mafia.

Claimed PRs have to be evaluated on their own. I have no idea what kind of information mafia has, but Koshi had said before that Palmar gives mafia info on town (iirc?). Speaking of Koshi, he has to hard claim whether he is a veteran or not.

On that note, today's most important topic is rso's alignment. Alas, none of the vigis shot her (... seriously?), so now we have to figure out her alignment. If we lynch her and she flips town, the game is probably super over. I am either ride or dying with her today, or she's getting lynched. She has said that she has time tomorrow and rso, you need to bring the fucking fire if you're town. The breadcrumb at the start of the game really, really helps with that, and I'm actually leaning towards you being town right now. Especially seeing how quick the votes are going again. That being said, do not be lazy. Bring the fucking fire.

On March 27 2016 23:13 Koshi wrote:
why in gods name would the game be over after a second town flip? lol.
Town will have at least 4 ml. Maybe 3 if you people keep shooting townies.

On March 27 2016 23:14 Damdred wrote:
Not necessarily there are certain roles that could.

Well there also is a possibility koshi was hit by a jk and he's scum and the shit was stopped going off

On March 27 2016 23:14 Vivax wrote:
Like here we go again, people literally pulling shitty reads out of their butt when people claim blue. D2 is ruined, no one even reads stuff that actually considers what people said outside of their claims.

On March 28 2016 05:31 Damdred wrote:
So I went and read kur filter a bit more to see maybe he bread crumbed his shot or was implying that he was a vig.

And to my eyes he did and it holds up to the flow of his claim/shot. He starts off by warning koshi that if he didn't play normally that kurm would arrange a meeting between the two of them, and his last read post he had koshi as his top scum. I don't think it's super clear cut but the way I'm leaning to last night going was,

Scum shoots SL ( uses his power like a boss. Blocks scum shot)
Stutters gets show by Sandroba (can only shoot after a town is lynched)
Kurm vig shoots koshi (medic saves koshi blocking kp)
Final scum kp goes out (is blocked by medic)
Rs supposedly receives item from stutters

Most of that isn't provable but yeah whatever just writing down what I think.

Kinda meh about a few people, Tumble probably is the strangest person to me so far. Soon as I get home I'll show why but some of his posts just seem like he's trying to hard pocket people, and jump on pushes for sort of,meh reasons. Plus he didn't vote yesterday even though he thought tube was Scum ( I think) just didn't care about the lynch.

On March 28 2016 06:38 LightningStrike wrote:
So I decided to check Storm 1 and Storm 2 and there was a decent amount of blues in both of them and in Storm 1 scum had a doctor interesting enough.