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On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it.
So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers.
##Vote Alakaslam
On March 25 2016 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 03:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 24 2016 21:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, it was slam most likely. And it WAS a fucking awful shot. Yes, gumshoes posts were 99 % useless rambling but he still obviously put a lot of effort into the game which he usually doesn't as mafia and I am pretty sure slam knows this.
He needs to give us reasoning for 1) why he shot so early and 2) why gumshoe.
And if it isn't very convincing I am tempted to just policy lynch him. Do that then because that's been proven so effective, JAT, and will secure a town win. Fuck this bullshit, you butthurt idiots are so everywhere that I lose all motive to cooperate. No hate @ Superbia, Vivax, Kurumi, etc who convinced me the guy could very likely be scum, nooooooooo hate the shooter and policy lynch even though he 1. Breadcrumbed enough that you all knew it was me 2. Told people to think about what a gumshoe flip would tell them (but was clearly ignored) No that's a policy lynch that will help us win because he will still be a destructive force in the game, because multi shot vigs are totally possible.  you are going to make not breaking the rules really damned hard. How about you stop crying like a baby and explain why you made that shot at that time when you were in no danger to ever be nightkilled. Cannot shoot after day1,Suspected one of either Gumshoe or Kurumi, Felt that Gumshoe was not adding useful talk and being distracted by my old meta. Who is crying so hard? "Slam shot wrong dude plynch him now" Vindictive AND an asshole, I see. Take a higher road than I take in every way or not at all.
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On March 25 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:
LOL shape you used the same word than I on VA.
I like your read list.
I am sueing for copyright in-figment.
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Gonning to take a break for a hour or so to refresh because all i want to do is goof off.
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+ Show Spoiler +
Damm i pick like the worse time to leave. Can someone tell me why the plan was bad? I thought the execution could of been better but i liked the concept.
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Still slightly catching btw.
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Jeez
Rik needs to come down here. CAPSLZ LOCK isn't helpful.
I kinda agree with rik here. I liked the idea of the plan (like i said) but the execution was horrible. It made me think about suvs :/
Though this flip out is weird.
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On March 25 2016 07:33 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 07:26 ritoky wrote:On March 25 2016 07:24 Kurumi wrote:
Wait why 8? cuz i picked a random fucking large number Is it really that huge? 21 players total. 4 probably Mafia. 17 players left. 8 players believe that they are Town. You still have 9 Townies not sharing that sentiment. That's excluding possible 3rd party shenanigans and different Mafia size (I could see it being 5 even). It does not seem that huge. Because it is 8 players analysing 13 players, you are much more likely to down or out a blue. This would probably result in last minute switch shenanigans and disorder. This would lead to Mafia having even more information. In that 8, you could have three Mafia who figured out that it is a good idea to get on that Ford Wave and now you have 5 townies believing strongly that 3 players are Townie, but are actually Mafia. Mafia creates lynch after lynch, blue blood is the last sight of the day, blue blood is the first sight of the day and since this setup is about being careful, I don't see it being good.
Wait hold on. I am going to use this 8 logic here because i am confused now.
+ Show Spoiler +So Best case would turn it into 8 v 13 right? Let say about 5 roles are 3rd party/mafia So 8 v 8 v 5.....
Mafia would have some kinda of KP so they would shot into the 8 vt;s or whatever, let say 3rd is a kill role.
So each night 2 of the confirm townies die, or they shot into the suspect pool.
The 8 blue roles would then check eachother/use their power on the other people (assuming they have a power). Well, Instantly, a tracker/watcher would be fuck over because any person they check would go somewhere. The only way to get a good track is to track to a death. All the other ones are useless because they can't determine anything. They only have a 2/25 chance (N1) of catching scum. And they can still be vig technically.
But lets say it was 10 or something 10 v 11 -> 10 vs 6 vs 5, Blue roles have to cover less people. But that is still 10 other people a invest blue role has to either check or track. Not to mention that any of the 10 vt's could be shot theoretically (scum/3rd party killer would pick high value targets) And this is not meationing if the roles are not trackable or watchable.
Then Physiologically, some invest blue roles might check the vt to make sure they are vt's. thus wasting a check.
I guess the protection and vet roles would be fine/in a better spot.
idk about what would happen if you than make everyone out of the circle claim.
Eh it not that great when i look at it like this.
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On March 25 2016 07:50 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 07:29 Shapelog wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Damm i pick like the worse time to leave. Can someone tell me why the plan was bad? I thought the execution could of been better but i liked the concept. Jesus I've been leaving you and your "Kurumi is X." Some posts later "Kurumi is Y." later: "Hey Dude, do you think Kurumi is more of a X or more of a Z?", are you able to make your goddamn mind about anything without the help of others? It feels like you are trying the ground everytime you do post a read. You feel very insecure and for a person with such contrary opinion to the current state of the thread your defense of ritoky is very weak. What is good about the concept? You agree that execution was bad, but why and why would it point to ritoky Town?
IIRC i didn't do the bolded. Tube questioned me about it and i said i would look back at your posts.
I thought the concept was good because it would theoretically make a good town circle if it worked. I didn't take into the account of what happens to the blue roles and how it would play out (I should of).
I think rik is town because he tried to make a play that would help town in his opinion. Why would scum put that much attention on themselves? to snag some blue roles? I admit the excuation was awful because of Calling Damdred blue/scum, thus giving away any benefits it might have.
Also if it was a mafia play, i think it would of been thought out more and he wouldn't out it. I feel like he hasn't really plan for a response to this mess, which would make since if he is town.
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On March 25 2016 07:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 07:57 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 07:33 Kurumi wrote:On March 25 2016 07:26 ritoky wrote:On March 25 2016 07:24 Kurumi wrote:
Wait why 8? cuz i picked a random fucking large number Is it really that huge? 21 players total. 4 probably Mafia. 17 players left. 8 players believe that they are Town. You still have 9 Townies not sharing that sentiment. That's excluding possible 3rd party shenanigans and different Mafia size (I could see it being 5 even). It does not seem that huge. Because it is 8 players analysing 13 players, you are much more likely to down or out a blue. This would probably result in last minute switch shenanigans and disorder. This would lead to Mafia having even more information. In that 8, you could have three Mafia who figured out that it is a good idea to get on that Ford Wave and now you have 5 townies believing strongly that 3 players are Townie, but are actually Mafia. Mafia creates lynch after lynch, blue blood is the last sight of the day, blue blood is the first sight of the day and since this setup is about being careful, I don't see it being good. Wait hold on. I am going to use this 8 logic here because i am confused now. + Show Spoiler +So Best case would turn it into 8 v 13 right? Let say about 5 roles are 3rd party/mafia So 8 v 8 v 5.....
Mafia would have some kinda of KP so they would shot into the 8 vt;s or whatever, let say 3rd is a kill role.
So each night 2 of the confirm townies die, or they shot into the suspect pool.
The 8 blue roles would then check eachother/use their power on the other people (assuming they have a power). Well, Instantly, a tracker/watcher would be fuck over because any person they check would go somewhere. The only way to get a good track is to track to a death. All the other ones are useless because they can't determine anything. They only have a 2/25 chance (N1) of catching scum. And they can still be vig technically.
But lets say it was 10 or something 10 v 11 -> 10 vs 6 vs 5, Blue roles have to cover less people. But that is still 10 other people a invest blue role has to either check or track. Not to mention that any of the 10 vt's could be shot theoretically (scum/3rd party killer would pick high value targets) And this is not meationing if the roles are not trackable or watchable.
Then Physiologically, some invest blue roles might check the vt to make sure they are vt's. thus wasting a check.
I guess the protection and vet roles would be fine/in a better spot.
idk about what would happen if you than make everyone out of the circle claim. Eh it not that great when i look at it like this. Are you 2 seriously arguing over the completely irrelevant math of a number ritoky obviously just made up to prove his point? Wtf.
I was trying to understand why it was bad to people.
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On March 25 2016 08:08 Superbia wrote:
All right, now that I have both your attention I want to continue the train of thought.
Everyone kind of agrees that gumshoe's post was somewhat scummy, and that it was an easy scum-push regardless of alignment. So I'm inclined to believe that -a- scum would pile on the push. Agreed?
Yes.
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On March 25 2016 08:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 08:07 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 07:50 Kurumi wrote:On March 25 2016 07:29 Shapelog wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Damm i pick like the worse time to leave. Can someone tell me why the plan was bad? I thought the execution could of been better but i liked the concept. Jesus I've been leaving you and your "Kurumi is X." Some posts later "Kurumi is Y." later: "Hey Dude, do you think Kurumi is more of a X or more of a Z?", are you able to make your goddamn mind about anything without the help of others? It feels like you are trying the ground everytime you do post a read. You feel very insecure and for a person with such contrary opinion to the current state of the thread your defense of ritoky is very weak. What is good about the concept? You agree that execution was bad, but why and why would it point to ritoky Town? IIRC i didn't do the bolded. Tube questioned me about it and i said i would look back at your posts. I thought the concept was good because it would theoretically make a good town circle if it worked. I didn't take into the account of what happens to the blue roles and how it would play out (I should of). I think rik is town because he tried to make a play that would help town in his opinion. Why would scum put that much attention on themselves? to snag some blue roles? I admit the excuation was awful because of Calling Damdred blue/scum, thus giving away any benefits it might have. Also if it was a mafia play, i think it would of been thought out more and he wouldn't out it. I feel like he hasn't really plan for a response to this mess, which would make since if he is town. I think we can all agree that ritoky thought it would get him townread regardless of his alignment, no?
On March 24 2016 18:58 ritoky wrote:DAT ANGLESHOOTING THO! CONF TOWN ME BAE. + Show Spoiler +ignore the part where mods may have distributed fake role pms to mafia that makes me not fully confirmed, altho the "you don't get unnecessary stuff bit" makes me doubt it a bit WHY THE FUCK DID HE NOT RESPOND POSITIVELY TO ME THO? DAT FORD EXPEDITION PICTURE OP! wow i am legit proud of myself right now for how i gamed dis bitch. i mean it crumbled in flames and didn't yield what i wanted but that's on other people not responding properly imo, the plan was solid in my head and in my heart.
True. Moving on though.
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On March 25 2016 08:23 Superbia wrote:
I like shapelog's filter too kind of. But I don't know his meta.
+ Show Spoiler +I am changing my style. But there is one thing that all my past games (inculded scum) had, ![[image loading]](https://managewp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/spam.jpg) only scum game (XIX) i had 30 pages
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On March 25 2016 08:28 Superbia wrote:
Tumblewood is like 80% scum.
Wasn't he here a bit ago? He still needs to answer my question >_<
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Public Security Announcement to TumbleDore
You have been here and posted 5 posts, and apparently have either caught up with the JAT question post or just jumping to the last written page.
PLEASE FOR THE ANERGYFISHMAN GOD Answer:
Why was there a 2 hour gap from your sign off post with your last post and what were you doing. Plus any other question that i asked you.
-Signed with love.
Shapelog
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On March 25 2016 08:37 Superbia wrote:
I actually feel super good about my circles right now. Just don't have a straight up mafia I want to push. Like Tumblewood/Damdred would be okay-ish but I'd rather keep my vote on rso and see where that brings us?
Thoughts anyone?
lol i forgotten about Damdred. need to dive him.
I want Tumble to answer my question.
I still think Rsoul might be mafia.
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On March 25 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 08:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 25 2016 08:37 Superbia wrote:
I actually feel super good about my circles right now. Just don't have a straight up mafia I want to push. Like Tumblewood/Damdred would be okay-ish but I'd rather keep my vote on rso and see where that brings us?
Thoughts anyone? lol i forgotten about Damdred. need to dive him. I want Tumble to answer my question. I still think Rsoul might be mafia. Why on rso? Also did you think tumble was mafia the moment you finished the gumshoe timeline thingy?
I have, a list you know, explaining my ideas. Page 4 of my filter. Should check it, maybe bring a gif or 2?
Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free.
She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic.
Also add the afkness and just a fixation on the slam/rik lynch. She just seem to take the least path of resistance.
About tumble. I before doing the timeline, gave him a same town lean because i thought he committed to a read on Gum. Which he didn't, so I placed him in null. I wanted him to answer the time gap and prehaps talk to him (or at least get him to comment) on gum.
He has not done so.
A course, i do not see both of them being scum.
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Unless Rsoul thought there be too much heat on Tumble or something and set up to bus. Feels unlikely thou giving the timing of her read.
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MR.Stutter!
TIcTock!
Sandman!
What are your thoughts!
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On March 25 2016 09:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 08:37 Superbia wrote:
I actually feel super good about my circles right now. Just don't have a straight up mafia I want to push. Like Tumblewood/Damdred would be okay-ish but I'd rather keep my vote on rso and see where that brings us?
Thoughts anyone? Damdred could be town. Ritoky is mafia.
On March 25 2016 08:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 07:50 Superbia wrote:
Does anyone still believe Ritoky is mafia? 100% certain mafia.
Why does tis feel so familiar.
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After looking at Damdred filter, i wouldn't lynch him today.
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