EPTOn April 02 2016 08:46 Damdred wrote:
I need to check storm 2 but I think it was 2 kp until scum reached 0
I need to check storm 2 but I think it was 2 kp until scum reached 0
the fuck is that? that shit's not balanced.
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1) disrespect - you have to believe i am a bad enough player as mafia to blatantly blue hunt to the point of calling people blue in the thread. recently people were calling me a top 3 scum player on this site, so you must think i am bad. 2) dumbass nks - so i spend the day blue hunting, locate a for sure blue and other people i felt might be blue, then i shoot none of them. absolutely none of them...especially damdred. 3) if 1 team pointless levels of bussing - i am really with rsoul? really? you should go get your head checked. there's mafia bussing, and what i did to rsoul....and you donkeys still didn't believe me. 4) if 2 teams i am fucking me teammate - as we established earlier, if i am mafia, i am shooting damdred. so in order for me to be mafia i have to be with him. but then i am sitting here shitting on his fake claim. so i am totes with him. 5) angle shooting - you don't come up with dem angle shooting strats as mafia 6) expedition - self explanatory for any VTs out there 7) jat's anger - jat was mad at me cuz i didn't hold out my play longer and execute it properly cuz i think he knew deep down as fellow VT that it had glorious potential 8) dead mafia like calling me mafia and that folks is why i can't be mafia. | ||
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Town meta - he posted a blanket statement about someone being town or mafia in his first 5 posts: On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote: ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read From there he continued to push his rsoul read, and it aligned very much with mine - On March 24 2016 23:59 VayneAuthority wrote: Taking a look at the playerlist I have to stop the circlejerk before it gets out of control unfortunately. 50% read of ritoky is bad and already hard defending people that will never lynch her 50% On March 28 2016 23:20 VayneAuthority wrote: 4.This LS/rsoultin/etc circlejerk is still making me gag, please make it go away. Probably read like 20-25 posts reading through of them just sucking eachother off and saying that the other is town for zero reason and they dont want to lynch eachother. Exactly what the policy part of my vote was about. Both of which I firmly agreed with. Rsoul was clearly pandering to people who would never vote for her anyway due to pure personality stuff to make sure they were on her side and blind to what she was doing. The fact that she pandered so hard to LS too might clear him slightly; dunno I will see when I get to him. This is a little concerning considering at one point rsoul was in very real threat of lynch, she was VA's top scum read or near top scum read and he didn't budge from tumble onto her. On March 29 2016 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote: going to vote for tumblewood now I think he is the highest chance to flip mafia. If nothing happens im going back to policying rsoultin for circlejerk and added benefit of info. And his explanation for not moving is the people who voted on rsoul not looking great: On March 29 2016 05:00 VayneAuthority wrote: oh shit deadline is today already? I missed more then I thought I would. These wagons are super confusing to say the least. i think everyone on Tumblewood is town though so nbd. People on rsoultin is a clusterfuck so makes me more hesitant. People on koshi are lynching by merit rather then playing mafia, fair enough not my playstyle though. Those people at the time were: me (VT), slam (claimed dayvig), SL (claimed vet), vivax (town), shapelog, and tumble. That is 1 obvious town, 2 claims, 1 guy tunneling the same read as you, 1 guy you never mentioned, and tumble; and they are voting on your top scum read thus far. That doesn't seem like a particular clusterfuck of people. This is kinda sketchy. On March 29 2016 05:18 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont have any experience with kurumi so I have zero idea what it means for his alignment. Probably too dumb for scum though, I would never hit enter on that post as mafia in a billion years I remember mind-melding this post when he made it. Because kurumi posted some pretty obscenely bad reads that I thought were just too bad. But now in hindsight this looks worse. You scum read rsoul all game, then elect to not vote on her for questionable reasons instead voting on the guy who got shennanied off of to lynch mafia; then you are defending another mafia immediately after. But then the convo afterwards doesn't sound like a conversation that kurumi has with a partner in thread. It is too scattered to quote it fully, but basically kurumi calls VA opportunistic for town reading him and shitting on his reads post and immediately starts trying to omgus fight with him to which VA says your reads are stupid because you think rsoul and ritoky are together and they never are. Further koshi joining in the shit on ritoky fest just seems needless and dumb so he isn't on a team with them either. Which feels like both a really good observation and not a conversation partners have in thread. My sketched level is slightly lowered. Post-TT he flips his read on rsoul because: On March 29 2016 23:57 VayneAuthority wrote: It's unlikely but rsoultin/tictock is possible I guess. They expended a lot of effort trashing eachother though pretty early game in the game and it didnt seem fake. Which I can understand to a degree; he then is humongously in favor of a kurumi lynch the following phase after rsoul has died. On March 30 2016 23:56 VayneAuthority wrote: I disagree, pretty much a textbook mafia post about the setup. It would also explain his super weird reads now because he was trying to make his scumteam half town/half mafia members. This is also an incredibly town post since I understand it and have been openly incredibly confused by the setup. On March 31 2016 00:08 VayneAuthority wrote: easy for you to say when you are a PR. This setup is insanely confusing as regular town Yea I think he is town, sorry for doubting you on your wishy-washy rsoul read. On March 31 2016 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote: you complain people think you are mafia when you come into the thread with nonsense reads and vote me out of nowhere with little to no mention in your filter before this lol Convienent Yup, antagonistic playstyle is more town indicative of VA imo On March 31 2016 05:27 VayneAuthority wrote: Yea man teach me how to lose constant lylos for town and play terribly as scum where can I sign up? So you joined a wagon last second day 1 started by superbia and me, congrats? VA feels town to me. The only part I have doubts on is where he got a little wishy-washy and was randomly not voting rsoul for bad reasons even though she was a top scum read of his. The problem with that is that if that makes him mafia, then he is supposedly mafia with rsoul and kurumi; who he scum read most of the game and then advocated a lynch for. So I don't see him being scum with them. Maybe if it is proven to be 2 teams I need to reconsider this read, but I feel comfortable with it for now and I am kinda on the mafia team of 5 + sk bandwagon in my mind atm. | ||
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On April 02 2016 09:38 scott31337 wrote: Shape started bringing up TicTock (encouraging) and was an early vote on him. Shape also made the wall of text case on Kurumi and I think that was the straw that had him concede. I'm pretty sure the dude's town. The other names I hear you on. to be fair, the guy had like 6 or 7 votes on him prior to shape making a WoT... | ||
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he has mafia stuff in his filter like stating superbia is mafia multiple times and then doing nothing about it: On March 29 2016 07:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also Superbia is pretty high up there in my mafia ratings atm. On April 01 2016 15:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Nah forget it sleep time now. I think I want to lynch Superbia for posting bad analysis on two separate occasions and can't remember anything noteworthy from him outside of that so he's up on my list. and how he was always promising to evaluate rsoul but then never actually evaluating her: On March 25 2016 22:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: There's no way I'll have enough time to parse rso today because I'm heading to work soon and simply won't be back until after deadline. (I might be able to check in during but don't expect any contributions I make to be earth shattering outside of what I've already given you.) I'm still on the fence about tumble. I hated his ritoky post but that's the only scummy thing I can think of. I technically don't like his low-impact style either but that could be a sign of being new rather than being scum. On March 26 2016 04:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why do people not trust rso, exactly? On March 27 2016 11:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Rso can you post some reads or something? I don't really know what to think of you and you doing something other than getting bogged down in fights I can't read into isn't helping. The only reason I have you as town is because of what I said about the wagons but otherwise I don't really have much and I don't know if I should keep pushing this idea or not. then he concluded post-tt lynch for no particular stated reason: On March 29 2016 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think we should probably kill ritoky or something. after saying nothing about rsoul only to come crashing down at: On March 30 2016 08:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So ritoky is probably not mafia. but don't worry, he wants to lynch me again. further he has a tremendous amount of posts where he makes excuses about why he isn't doing more rather than actually doing stuff. constant posts of: "i need to take a second look at vivax" or "i need to parse rsoul" or "i need to reconsider on LS" but then the conlsuion is never delivered. that and 4 of his 8 page filter is over the span of a couple hours around the shennanie....so he realistically only has a 4 page filter for the rest of the game. that said there are some really town feeling things in his filter as well, but idk if they outweigh the mafia things. for example the posts about where he is paranoid about being sheeped feels town: On March 29 2016 06:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Everyone piles onto my lynch again... Now I'm paranoid. D: the spot where he begins feeling VA is town is right where i just did in my read of him: On March 29 2016 05:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote: VA just skyrocketed into my townreads for all of his spot-on mind melds. and how he didn't want to vote with TT on day 2: On March 29 2016 06:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And TT is also voting TW... I don't know what this means but it's scary, yo. idk it's a real mixed bag....unfortunately i didn't get anywhere with him in his filter.....pretty null for me, which is bad considering i generally read OWS pretty well. maybe a mafia lean? idk that whole post about not wanting to vote with TT just doesn't generally come from mafia....ugh null. | ||
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On April 02 2016 13:25 sicklucker wrote: I would be down to lynch koshi tbh . I know its not happening but hes either town with every wrong read (literraly everyone its amazing ) or third party. And hes much more likely to be mafia with rstou/kura then someone like ritoky who he thinks is an auto lynch? like get out of here you don't know how bad i want to lynch koshi for just being dumb and wrong all game long. like i am pretty sure he doesn't even believe there are 2 mafia teams and calls me an auto-lynch which is just brain-dead. unfortunately i don't think it leads anywhere useful. also he isn't wrong about you, i think there's a very real possibility that you could be sk. actually....wait a fucking minute. | ||
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On April 02 2016 14:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It's a mystery. I'd sass more but this is probably the part where we start acting super paranoid about our blue claims so let's do it. Did you ever have SL as town at some point? i mean the primary reason i can remember is he is basically the only person to identify me as town all game after he realized that crackpot angle shooting strats aren't crafted by mafia within 4 mins of the game starting. | ||
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On April 02 2016 14:09 sicklucker wrote: is this really a qeustion? mafia would never risk having a kp stopped this deep in the game they supposedly bypassed kp or stacked with the sk.... | ||
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mafia kp1 -> rels mafia kp2 -> sandroba sk kp -> rels | ||
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i am trying to recall one, but i can't....i remember him asking a bunch of questions that went nowhere, never giving reads, talking about rsoul a lot, then raging....that's all i remember and he has like 20 pages. | ||
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this post reads very mafia: On March 24 2016 12:46 Tumblewood wrote: ritoky's in the hole and keeps digging... he comments later about not understanding why. it is because it does nothing. there's no town motivation to this post. it simply is opportunisticly pushing on a player under pressure. now i am biased cuz it was me, but essentially; you're not furthering the case on me, you're not voting on me, you're not contributing a real point of view or new information, so why make this post? what is there to contribute or gain from making this post? it has no point other than to try and get on the good side of things and ride the current. I am on the fence on this one, it is either very mafia or complete newb: On March 25 2016 12:25 Tumblewood wrote: I feel like I need a justification every time I'm AFK. you also didn't understand later why this post can be read mafia i think. the reason is that you're scared. townies, like take me for example, have a certain bravado or confidence about themselves. they know they are town so how could anyone possibly read them as anything but what they are? they speak their minds openly and without fear of the retribution; and when people scum read them most of the time there is a significant emotional response cuz what the fuck are these idiots doing they are obviously town. this post demonstrates that you're scared of being scum read which in essence is a scum mindset. you feel like you need excuses or people will call you scum, but that is a thought that shouldn't even be on a townie's mind. a non-specific note: you use the word insightful a ton...and i believe english is your primary language. being redundant on explaining reads and verbage can be mafia indicative for people, not enough experience with you to make that call. There's a lot wrong with these reads: On March 26 2016 14:54 Tumblewood wrote: "Wake up, town" reads list VayneAuthority - idk how anyone is TRing him. He was here for a little bit and now he'll miss all of this phase. That's NAI at best. Kurumi - He's almost comically angry. I'm kinda just sheeping Rels on this and Damdred - His reads are really shallow, like "LS obv town" and nothing else. His D1 scumlist also sucked-- 2 plynches, tubesock, and kurumi (the only one who even kinda goes against what people think) [and me but with a disclaimer]. ALSO one time he said there's one scum between me and Tube because of some nonexistent exchange between us. k i'm done now i swear sandroba - Making the same reads as everyone else (when present), but for much worse reasons ObiWanShinobi - he hasn't been present much, but I like the quality of his reads Koshi - people are like "oh angry koshi = town koshi" but his displays of emotion so far have been utterly fakeable Rels - he's been insightful this game and actually has original, non-obvious reads which are hard to fake when you're not looking for something justanothertownie - I don't want to read his filter so I'm just going to say he's being aggressive and leave it at that. ritoky - Either obv town or obv scum and I can't tell which is which sicklucker - Doesn't he on D1 act scummy even as town? If not everyone in Devil Inside Mafia lied to me. Alakaslam - he's a vig Shapelog - He blends in far more than he usually does. Usually when he blends in it's because I'm ignoring all his posts, but this time it's because I don't notice it's him. Even though he has a 7-page filter, it seems he's not putting very much effort into the game. Vivax - he's doing a pretty alright job, y'know? rsoultin - I was really on the fence about this earlier but with Tubesock turning up town I think rsoul is also town. LightningStrike - One time I played with someone who was obvious town in his first game. LS is playing the same way, except it's not his first game. This makes him ??? Superbia - He's attacking the game in unorthodox ways, which I think is townie, if that makes sense. specifically town leans on 2 confirmed mafia, no stance on me, no town read on jat who was shitting town out of his eyes, and really weird reads on damdred and sandroba....particularly sandroba who i believe had claimed vigi at this point.....but you believed slam's claim easily? that doesn't make a ton of sense. then when you get to your VA case you say this: On March 30 2016 09:49 Tumblewood wrote: He had a lot of reasons to choose from to scumread me, and he chose: like what? there are no valid reasons to scum read you if you're town. they're all shit. that line implies there are good reasons out there to scum read you but VA just didn't pick the right ones. that might just be picking on a newb though. dunno i have had really good newbdar recently (not saying you're new necessarily, but new to playing with me)....and it isn't blinking overwhelmingly town here like it has past. what he has going for him is that we shennanied off of him onto mafia...mind you if he is mafia that means 3 of the 4 wagons day 2 were mafia (with koshi being unknown) which is a really good thing. dunno slight mafia lean, would think more mafia but has good vote logic going for him. | ||
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