EPTTeam Melee Mini Mafia VI: Newbies and Vets
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On February 25 2016 16:42 Tictock wrote: Eh I kinda liked the idea behind this setup. Trying to convince a friend to give this a go with me as well... I'm ok with turning it into a normal game, but maybe give it a few extra days? Also welcome back BM! nope dont do it. friends don't let friends play forum mafia. I guarantee you he/she will hate it and stop playing. | ||
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On February 27 2016 09:17 Shapelog wrote: Kush I have our theme song....... yes please | ||
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On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: 1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). Disagree unless it's intentional. I don't think lurking is any scummier than in normal games. 1 active and 1 lurker is less Scummy than 2 lurkers, 2 lurkers is very Scummy because it makes it less likely that the lurking is due to irl, and more likely that it is due to the stresses of being scum. | ||
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I already said this and he gave an explanation so why not address that instead of parroting me? | ||
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I think the unspoken conclusion of what sandroba says is this: it's easier for mafia to look like town than for town to look like mafia. It makes sense to me that sandroba would think that with his feels based approach to the game. | ||
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On February 29 2016 22:37 Shapelog wrote: You are my team mate, And i have no fucking clue wtf you are talking about. He is basically, from what i see, stated that logic of what mafia and town does. That mafia trys to be town and town tries not to look like mafia. idk where you got the easy part from. Mafia tries to look town. If they are successful, you will be tricked. Town does not try to look like mafia. So it's less likely you will be tricked into thinking town is mafia, because there is no effort going into tricking you. It makes sense coming from Sandroba, who finds scum by looking for disenginuity. | ||
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On February 29 2016 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Glancing at Ticktock's last few towngames, his tone is starkly different this game. However in his most recent scumgame he looks more like he's trying to emulate his townplay rather than just not give a fuck. Ehhhhh. Ima leave it for now. See what they say. Why aren't you distinguishing between joke phase and normal game? TT making those posts 24 hours into day 1 is different from him making them at the start of the game. | ||
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On February 29 2016 23:20 Shapelog wrote: Welp, I guess I am going to be good cop and kush can be bad cop. Since he is ignoring me in the QT >_< I was hoping we would be scum so I could study you. | ||
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Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase? | ||
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I'm not being sarcastic or anything with my second question btw. I'm just curious on your thoughts while marv is away. | ||
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On March 01 2016 10:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: This is actually a really well-reasoned point. I think it's a townie post from koshi for sure, but I don't agree with it. Koshi, you see an agenda in that phrase but I just see marv spouting off a truism about you with no consequence attached to it. BTW, I don't think I've ever seen you get mislynched koshi. Disclaimer: I'm not townreading marv. I'm just defending him against koshi's specific point. | ||
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marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus | ||
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On March 01 2016 10:54 qob wrote: We can use racial slurs on here? What about homophobic terms? I said "gayfk" once and I got banned. So I suggest you don't. | ||
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On March 01 2016 11:00 Tictock wrote: Is this like your post last game, where the red doesn't really mean much? Can I assume teams not on this list either feel towny to you or are null? Assume nothing. The purpose of this post is so that I can quote it in post game as evidence of how awesome I am (if it's right). | ||
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On March 01 2016 11:03 Koshi wrote: The last 2 are very likely town Kush. Come on bro.... Marv is obvious mafia. His junior is afraid as fuck. I think you are the second mafia team. but I am not sure about that yet. I don't want to bring down the full wrath of xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx upon VE yet. As for Rels, do you know what he looks like as scum? He is uncommonly good, I hear. | ||
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On March 01 2016 11:11 Koshi wrote: I can't read Rels. As scum he really looks like town. So meta is not useful. Truly a player you need to keep till the end and then make a list on how good he was this game and if he had alot of townie strain of thoughts. So why are you saying he's likely town then? | ||
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On March 01 2016 11:15 Koshi wrote: I really like his junior and I think Rels is more likely being horrible town atm than bullshitting mafia. So you really like this one post? On March 01 2016 04:05 Race Bannon wrote: It's definitely AI. However at this juncture I wouldn't know how to argue in favor of it being AI here specifically, nor how to follow through with the actual reduction process. Your determination to declare it otherwise seems out of place notwithstanding, so help me understand how something that's either faked by mafia or real when a townie does it is not AI. Basically all he's doing is arguing over the semantics of "alignment indicative." I think. | ||
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On March 01 2016 11:23 qob wrote: I think Rels is townish. + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote: "TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum" "Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!" "NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!" Scum. is the only thing im really curious about, everything else gives me a town vibe though. It just seems awkward to me, the one line responses i can understand for a time like that however. The main thing that peaks my interest is that he feels the need to reinstate "scum" at the bottom of his post. @Rels, if you can understand my convoluted sentences, answer me this, why did you feel the need to restate "scum" at the bottom of your post? Now, im still pretty dead set on Team Anal or Whatever, and im starting to gain suspicion on cow and damdred, my partner made me look into them more. I dont think cow is acting too different for what he normally does but its mainly damdreds responses to FF (page one of his iso.) this thing about rels restating scum at the end of his post might be the worst reason to suspect someone that ive ever seen | ||
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On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote: Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB. There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF. 1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me. 2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town. Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available. Here is what FF said FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided. So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure. This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob. | ||
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On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote: Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through. Why? | ||
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On March 01 2016 12:18 Koshi wrote: How is that vote on marv coming along? Me? Why? He's just one of 3 shit reads. | ||
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On March 01 2016 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote: He's talking about you hinting at getting me lynched, not realizing that it had little to do with you thinking I'm mafia and everything to do with the sexual pleasure you would derive from such an act. Oh right. The wrath brought down upon you thing. I was just saying I don't want to share my reasoning for scumreading you yet so that I can gather more evidence from your content to confirm or deny it. I'll try to decide who I want to lynch tomorrow. EoD is actually closer than I realized. There are no real wagons yet either. I would like to read some filters and place a preliminary vote now but I have to go to bed. And yes VE, the sexual pleasure I would derive from leading a lynch on you, ignoring your all-capitalized protests, is indescribable. | ||
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thecow is being tight-lipped for the most part. I checked this out: On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote: #243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read. He's talking about these quotes: On March 01 2016 02:10 Fecalfeast wrote: qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me. Wowie On March 01 2016 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote: I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start I think it's a smart way to describe what FF is doing. As for damdred, he's reading the thread closely so that gives him townpoints. Verdict: town enough | ||
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On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. @SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? | ||
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On March 01 2016 22:55 Shapelog wrote: From what I know, UON believes he is hiding something due to contradictions or something like that. Most notable his joke. but that thing that he is hiding would be his alignment? | ||
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##vote Team Anal Prolapse -I liked thecow's point against FF -Sent focused too much on his 1 lurker/1 active point -focusing on things that he should know are inconsequential: never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? -I find the reasoning in this omgus really weak, especially the part about FF: On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. -what is this? an accusation? On March 01 2016 08:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Your partner's said less than he normally does as town and you haven't said jack. I don't think you're blue. | ||
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On March 01 2016 23:09 qob wrote: Is there like a vote count on Team Anal Prolapse? I dont want to accident-hammer if i potentially vote. No hammer here. The person with the majority of votes at EoD gets lynched. Not sure when EoD is. But why woudn't you want to hammer? | ||
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On March 01 2016 23:09 qob wrote: Is there like a vote count on Team Anal Prolapse? I dont want to accident-hammer if i potentially vote. here's the vote thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/504758-team-melee-mini-mafia-vi-voting-thread#7 | ||
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I think you may be sheeping outdated sandroba feels. Can I interest you in a sent lynch? | ||
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On March 01 2016 23:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: What the actual fuck is mafia on mafia supposed to mean. Answer my question. Anyways, I have to kill an exam but I'll be back later in the day. If you aren't already, please continue sheeping me until that point. It improves the quality of my reads when I see people being wrong. mafia on mafia mean it's mafia bussing another mafia. | ||
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It makes sense that he doesn't have reads. | ||
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On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote: The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. yeah i don't agree with Felkyr's point. I think what sent was talking about was meta research he did for another game? And if you think about it, why did he even bring that up? Ultimately it had no bearing on anyone's alignment. It was just like "yup here's my anecdote about trying to meta someone." | ||
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marv/spik is town (no I dont want to get into a shitfest about it with you) jurys out of rels and ve teams. | ||
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I really don't. It only seems like that because I am paranoid about you. So I may still call you mafia later. | ||
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On March 01 2016 05:48 sandroba wrote: How is that mafia behavior when he knows his own alignment? because FF is focusing on qob's newness and posting style rather than the content of the read. | ||
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If he were to roll scum again I'd imagine he'd still be burned out. | ||
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On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote: No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p | ||
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On March 02 2016 00:57 Felkyr wrote: You say Damdred has made decent posts, but his one post that was actually trying to do something you called out as a scum-slip: Can you elaborate more on your Damdred read (which posts do you think were good?) cause I have difficulty reading him. Also, you said you like TheCows post: But you missed his other post significant post: I don't like this post at all. Even is Sandroba is mistaken about the point of TheCow's post, Sandroba's post was good and the pressure on TheCow is justified. So his reason to find Sandroba scummy is very weak in my opinion, but he does so regardless. It's just a bad reaction to being called out. However! He can read Qob and he feels town, so the slot must be town, right? But! Sandroba is still scummy, because of that one reaction post. He is trying to discredit Sandroba's post by calling it scummy, but at the same time doesn't dare to call him scum. Not a real defense and no progression either. Do you not agree that this post is bad? Why did you leave it out of your analysis? hmm let me look into the second part. That damdred post though, I didn't say it was scumslip, I said his argument was that FF made a scumslip. Which I didn't agree with really, because I have seen town make that same type of "scumslip" | ||
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On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote: sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town. sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though. I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy). | ||
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On March 02 2016 01:12 Rels wrote: No idea. It's a super weird attitude to skip posts. Any reads ? Who is town and who is scum in your mind ? Why is it a weird attitude? I skipped most of the shitfest between koshi/marv. So not the first thing I wanted to read in the morning. | ||
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On March 02 2016 01:15 Felkyr wrote: I think Sandroba understood TheCows post very well and I fail to see why TheCow would think otherwise. Sure, maybe Sandroba's conclusion about him being scum is incorrect but that's just early pushing. I feel like TheCow's overall reaction and mindset is more likely to come from mafia than town, regardless of the contradiction in the post itself. Sandroba: Says he can't understand the "philosophy" of the thread (w/e that means) "w/e that means"=he doesn't understand it | ||
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On February 29 2016 10:17 Damdred wrote: Depends on the circumstances. My general philosophy after some headaches is lynch when we have a cc situation otherwise let mafia deal with it during the night. If it's late in game it's best to,ignore the claim and parse them from what they did during the game. Obviously probably will have a cc in this situation. | ||
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I see a clear misunderstanding: thecow refers to a discussion about philosophy. sandroba has no idea what thecow is referring to when talking about philosophy. | ||
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On March 02 2016 01:27 Felkyr wrote: How do you come to that conclusion? I don't think that is true. But even if it is true, again, it doesn't change anything about TheCow's reaction. That was only one part of Sandroba's post. Why are you defending TheCow like this? I'm arguing against a lynch on thecow. People say that you should let people defend themselves, though. I could be giving him arguments to defend himself with if he's scum. So maybe I'm doing a bad thing. | ||
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Let me explain the small piece of meta that everyone is using to townread me. When I'm scum I don't care at all. This has been proven to be true over several years. | ||
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On March 02 2016 04:15 Rels wrote: I'm OK lynching: VE (only one read that doesn't evolve with the thread, fixed on proving he is making sense instead of being interested by new events, useless) / bum (useless) TT (his WOT on sand / qob were super forced) / queen (useless, came into the thread a few hours ago for one random question, I doubt he would have say anything else if I hadn't asked him for his reads) TheCow (useless, his "I will reevaluate" then dropping team names without explanation is scummy) / Damdred (underwhelming ... I have no rteason to scumread him) FF (useless, treated qob as town when he's pushing him) / Sentinel (don't really have anything to scumread him. He explained his Koshi meta stuff and is pushing his scumread right now, which is not an easy target) People are not playing super good since there are at most 2 scum teams in those 4. So who do you want to lynch? Who are you going to vote for? Which wagon is better, FF or TheCow? | ||
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On March 02 2016 04:21 Rels wrote: I guess that answers your question p: That answers my first question only. Who are you going to vote for? If thecow and ff are the only viable wagons, which do you think is better? | ||
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On March 02 2016 04:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here? Perhaps you are missing the fact that it was a joke? | ||
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On March 02 2016 04:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Probably. So why is Shape shitposting so much? Just because he didn't shitpost in 1 towngame doesn't mean he never shitposts as town. Does it? | ||
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On March 02 2016 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I can make jokes too. Nah the only meta so far I'm taking into account is kush's, and even then he's only slightly green to me atm. Didn't you just meta shapelog about shitposting, or was that just a joke? Also you didn't answer my question right. The game is exactly how it is right now but you are scum. What team would you push to lynch? thecow/damdred? | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:02 marvellosity wrote: Feeling good about our vote given what the people I'm unsure of are saying in the last page or so Can you be more specific? | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: First I thought he was serious, you said it was a joke, I made my own joke about it being an open and shut case. Me personally I'd probably find a juicier target cause of WIFOM. If they flip green I'm not gonna look too hot since cow/damdy aren't around to defend themselves much. If they're the other scumteam I'd probably bus. You still didn't answer my question. And don't offer me hypotheticals for different scumteams. If you were scum with whomever is actually scum this game, who would you push? | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:09 sandroba wrote: Why are some of you saying Damdred is town? I understand saying he is not auto scum, but I don't see a single thing that jumps out townie to me. I also don't understand why someone wouldn't think thecow is the absolute best vote for today by far. Some of the things being said here about other teams are fair, but none of it is as strong as the evidence against cow. All your hunches can wait, let's lynch the mafia first. his "scumslip" catch looks townie because it shows he is reading things closely and critically. that's it I think. | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:18 sandroba wrote: Kush why are you assuming constantly that damdred/cow are town? I lightly townread them. But I was trying to push sent into making commitments about what scummy people he thought were town. Not so much giving my own reads. | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:19 qob wrote: ##Vote: Team Anal prolapse (Do i have to double-post in the vote thread too?) yu dont have to vote in this thread. although it is helpful to the other players if you do. | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:20 sandroba wrote: Not going to argue, it may look a bit townie. But it does not cement someone as town, or is beyond what scum could reasonably do. Or are you saying damdred as scum wouldn't ever make a post like that? And you are saying you have no suspicion what so ever on cow's posting so far? I'm saying I think they are town. Could they be scum? Easily. I think sent/FF are scummier. | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:27 Tictock wrote: Also just an FYI I have to leave in about an hour for work and may not get back before deadline. So unless queen is around then (I doubt it) our vote will likely be locked in. lock it into Anal Prolapse. He's the most likely wagon out of your scumreads. | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:35 Tictock wrote: But they aren't really a scum read of mine Kush... I think they are null and my partner thinks they are scum kus they stopped being involved with the game What do you think about team OMGUS? VE/bumatlarge null. I think marv's point on VE has merit, and marv knows VE very well. But there comes a point in time where if that's all he's done, it doesn't look good. | ||
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On March 02 2016 04:54 Tictock wrote: FF/Sent team is pretty null to me, not really liking UN's return and imediet scum read on marv over one post. Queen doesn't really like em either so Team Blahvacado is not opposed to that lynch. dude there's things you don't like. there's nothing you do like. that's a scumread. Vote him please. I'll townread you 4eva. | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:41 marvellosity wrote: Kush why are you pushing so hard against sand and my read? why not | ||
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On March 02 2016 05:45 Tictock wrote: I think we are at an impass >.< Kus I can say the same about your read on OMGUS but i have things to sway me to townread VE--namely marv's point on him being townie. OMGUS isn't a viable wagon. You have to lock your vote so lock it on whichever of cow or ff you believe is the scummiest. | ||
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On March 01 2016 04:05 Race Bannon wrote: It's definitely AI. However at this juncture I wouldn't know how to argue in favor of it being AI here specifically, nor how to follow through with the actual reduction process. Your determination to declare it otherwise seems out of place notwithstanding, so help me understand how something that's either faked by mafia or real when a townie does it is not AI. | ||
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whats this mean On March 02 2016 07:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Wow if you actually end up being town this game I'm gonna quote this if you ever oppose a lurker lynch again | ||
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On March 02 2016 08:41 Fecalfeast wrote: I personally don't think, drunk or sober, town!rels sees his team's vote off-wagon and still puts the confidence in his noob. dude when you are drunk you dont give a fuck. | ||
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So much sxumminess. No towniness. Ff is here in the thread chatting but that is nai. | ||
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On March 01 2016 23:08 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Team xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx is officially giving their support to the Sent/FF wagon. ##vote Team Anal Prolapse -I liked thecow's point against FF -Sent focused too much on his 1 lurker/1 active point -focusing on things that he should know are inconsequential: -I find the reasoning in this omgus really weak, especially the part about FF: -what is this? an accusation? In addition - sent comes back into the thread and scumreads me and marv for terrible reasons. And he has been reading the thread. how you can be reading the thread and have me and marv as scumreads I have no idea. -he omgus' damdred really fakely. Like if he had just said "im voting damdred so save myself" that would be been townier. -makes a shit meta point against shape. -other shit im probably forgetting | ||
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On March 02 2016 09:43 Fecalfeast wrote: Nice I'm not even slated to die anymore! We should still all talk about why we're voting who we're voting ya bro let's also get on skype and sing kumbaya together | ||
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On March 02 2016 09:52 Shapelog wrote: Shhh I am going to switch votes last min. Because i do not agree with Kush. Shhhhhhh omg hellz no bitch. You are the jr and I am your master so you must obey. | ||
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On March 02 2016 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote: ????????????????/// You don't think you're voting scum? look at this terrible fake outrage | ||
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On March 02 2016 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm not outraged lol Kush actually trying as scum? I could see it nonsensical omgus | ||
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On March 02 2016 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote: If you're town I'm wondering if my green flip will make you look at your own play or if you'll just pass it off as 'ff is bad lol' if you act townie I am willing to reconsider | ||
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On March 02 2016 10:59 Tictock wrote: Ok caught up now. This + the fact that Marv decided to solo vote for my team shortly after... tells me Marv has no real scum reads. I retract my townread. at that point marv's vote wouldn't have mattered anyway. rels had 4, ff had 3. So marv's vote couldn't have affected who got lynched. Plus I get the feeling marv did it to appease his bf and make it seem like he valued his reads. Maybe. Thoughts? Especially on the first part of what I said. | ||
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On March 02 2016 09:18 marvellosity wrote: The Ve stuff was kinda weird. Spikasaur wants to lynch tictock and queenfestor but can't really explain why. On March 02 2016 09:18 Spikasaur wrote: No he doesn't. He said he didn't have a case. The behind the curtain communications between town marv and town spikasaur look very genuine. | ||
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•1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Parity Cop, Jailkeeper. •1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Parity Cop. •1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper. •1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Doctor. | ||
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On March 02 2016 22:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Meh. I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. There may still be a parity cop all up in here :OOO really? why not just say the obvious answer, TT? | ||
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On March 02 2016 23:13 marvellosity wrote: sure it is. it's just text, no timestamps or formatting. i could be making it up for all you know! right but then theoretically we could have everyone post from their partner QTs and scum would be fucked. | ||
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Wait for sent or FF to be in the thread. Tell them "As quickly as you can, quote your qt." If they can very quickly post a lot of discussion back and forth, we know they are town. | ||
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On March 02 2016 23:20 marvellosity wrote: well, our QT is empty, so i couldn't even "prove" mine and Spike's innocence in that manner ^^ but you get what I'm saying... Shape and I could 99% prove our innocence in 30 seconds. | ||
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On March 02 2016 23:32 Shapelog wrote: Except kush, you just told them our plan and now everyone is going to put tons of "content" in their qt for this. You must think like i do, and in trapping scum, you must wait for the scum to come to you. But I'm an advocate for scum on this issue. It's not how I want to win. | ||
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On March 03 2016 05:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Still a 25% chance there's a parity cop and Damdy was full of shit. No. Scum fake claiming JK will get CCed for all setups except 1. So they would have to be making a gamble that loses 3 out of 4 times. So not only does scum have decide to make that terrible bet, but then that bet has to actually land on the 25% chance. Do you think that's likely? Also at the point in time when damdred claimed, there was enough time so that he could have convinced people not to lynch him. I think that's the route scum would have taken. | ||
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On March 03 2016 05:59 qob wrote: i was the first to call of anal. First game but already better than the majority. good instincts but you're kinda douchey | ||
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You think mafia would take that huge risk, and then that risk would land on the 25% right setup? | ||
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On March 03 2016 10:27 Tictock wrote: Like here Damdred is aware mafia might shoot him but his reads post doesn't show any effort. The bolded looks like he's setting himself up for going "Oops my block was wrong" I think the JK block only goes through if there's one mafia and you block him. Not sure about that. I don't see how people can suspect that claim. | ||
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On March 03 2016 10:31 Tictock wrote: Fuck it, it's clear to me that Damdred is mafia. I'm the real JK. I came back with 15 min left before EoD and didn't even see his claim right away. CC'ing 10 min before EoD would have been stupid. wat.... ccing 10 min before eod would have been great. | ||
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On March 03 2016 10:33 Damdred wrote: 100% lynch TT. Mafia is 1 lynch away from Lylo I believe in this setup, sacrificing one cell and an afk lynch the next game is what mafia wnats. 100% lynch TT no lol. | ||
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On March 03 2016 10:41 sandroba wrote: Honestly TT, as much as I want to be right about Team Cownadow day 1 my first instinct is that you are the liar here. i believe him. his reasoning isn't terrible. I don't think mafia would do a 1v1 cc here. | ||
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On March 03 2016 10:44 sandroba wrote: That logic is retarded. If damdred is mafia and delivering the shot we would see the exact same result as if mafia shot him. And then you would say it's 2 "confirmed town". I find it hard to believe you put this little thought into your plan. no because you cant stop a kp. if not enough people were here to switch, our jk would have been outed unnecessarily. possibility for fake claim. | ||
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Sent/ff just feels too easy. | ||
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On March 03 2016 22:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: hmm i have a borderline legal theory concerning that modkill that leads me to believe ve is town. I don't know if I can share it though. nvm | ||
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On March 03 2016 22:09 Shapelog wrote: My own partner did not read my post saying why i think the damdred flip makes them more town based off of pressure and a opportunistic lynch on rels.  It is also debatable, so I like for someone else to look at it and talk about it. I read it. I mean on the one hand it woudl be weird for the first thing for damdred to do is to point out his team's scumslip. But then again when it came time to vote FF, he voted rels for bad reasons. So yes I think it points to them not being scum together but not very strongly. | ||
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On March 03 2016 19:33 VisceraEyes wrote: I just need to figure out if it's you or FF/Sent. Though the marv kill just fucking screams Kush. If you can refrain from posting any more crazy shit like that until I sort it out, that would be fantastic. why? he was townreading me very hard. | ||
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On March 03 2016 20:19 VisceraEyes wrote: We'll see. Most of your points assume kush plays like a normal player. I'm seeing some stuff in Sentinel's filter that seems pretty damning taken with the Damdred flip. Gimme a bit. I may actually wait until tomorrow since I have until 8pm ostensibly. I'm fucking exhausted. this soft defense of me actually looks pretty townie. he totally doesn't need to defend me here, and he shouldn't defend me if he's mafia, but he does. | ||
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that post from thecow was a good point on FF though. FF, isntead of arguing about the content of the post, attacked qob's posting style and newness. I still like the point, even if ff is town and thecow is scum. | ||
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On March 03 2016 22:32 Queenfestor wrote: qob´s filter looks quite scummy to me #1376 gives out his lynch order w/o any real explantion yet fucks up (and needs his partner to clarify whats going on) from that point hes silent - maybe he wants sand do get them out of this miserable place yes but sandroba looks really townie. | ||
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On March 02 2016 07:55 Felkyr wrote: I'm just going to sheep some town reads. I'd like to have Koshi's input but fine. I am not sure about Sentinal anymore and TheCow is still the same. ##Unvote ##Vote Team Cownadow Felkr, can you explain a little bit what caused this change of heart? | ||
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On March 03 2016 23:10 Shapelog wrote: So the team with a JK who CCed to kill mafia is less town than Innocent, Koshi, Me, and OMGUS? Okekkkkkkkkk...... shape it's so obvious once you think about it... they know there's no jk and just a parity cop. tt fake counter claimed damdred so he would look town for the rest of the game and secure a win. Damdred faked that there was a real jk in the qt to seal the deal. | ||
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but then again, why would sandroba AND qob push thecow/damdred so hard like that? | ||
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On March 04 2016 00:57 Shapelog wrote: 8 pages are pretty lame for me tbh. Perhaps I need to work harder, i am losing my edge the qt probably diffused some of your spam. | ||
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You think sandroba came into the game and single mindedly pushed thecow all game? He had ample opportunity to go to sent but he didn't until after the claim. | ||
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On March 04 2016 03:07 Shapelog wrote: We got 2 lynchs and if TT is correct, a cop claim tomorrow if there is a cop. Prob. is, we cannot really trust if one of VE/Sand team if they claim.... how would tt know if there's a parity cop.. | ||
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On March 04 2016 03:10 sandroba wrote: These are the posts in question that TheCow was refering too, that kush found "smart" and "townie enough". @shapelog I know kush didn't town read FF, the veredic town I was talking about was refering to Qob. My point is his veredict is out of place and a ridiculous conclusion, he ignores most of my case on TheCow and says this piece. If you look at what FF did he did nothing of what Cow said, FF actually pointed out that Qob was making a mistake going after them for that reason and he liked his agression, but he should look into other people. Tha's how FF's post should be interpreted, not what TheCow said. And kush saying that that makes TheCow townie enough and it's smart and makes FF look scummy is completely bizarre. He goes for with this terrible explanation to vote on the wagon building against TheCow's wagon! He even tries to undermine my case on TheCow further by saying I wasn't understanding part of TheCow's post and THAT is why I thought it was scummy. But HE knew what TheCow was talking about with the "philisophy" line, somehow, without thecow ever explaining it, and went out of his way to defend thecow based on his explanation without thecow ever confirming it. It is very clear that kush has an agenda here and is hiding something. The man is mafia. dude. no. I explain it again and again but you're not understanding. FF was attacking qob's aggressiveness and his newness. FF was ignoring the content of qob's attack in those 2 quotes. thecow recognized that and I felt it was townie. The philosophy line-- I knew that philosophy had been talked about because I saw it when filtering someone I think. Then I did control-f to find the exact post that contained the word philosophy. | ||
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In the QT: me-yo thecow what were you talking about with that philisophy bit? cow-oh i was talking about post number whatever me-cool now ill use that in my defense of you ?? | ||
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On March 04 2016 03:26 sandroba wrote: You are scum. I suppose what you did is assume thecow was talking about w/e and just jumped to his defense. What matters here is not how it happened in the scum QT, it's that you were NOT INTERESTED to know his explanation for it, jumped to w/e conclusion you saw fit and defended him for it. YOU IGNORED ALL MY POINTS ON HIM AND FUCKING TR HIM. I can see a person like not finding my case 100% danming and maybe the dude is just new, but to fucking TOWN READ him base on the couple post he made is simply unfathomable. It does not compute. Thus, you must have been pushing an agenda. The dude posted 4 posts, fucked off and you insisted on defending him at MULTIPLE OCASIONS. You weren't even like "yeah cow, what's up with this post, can you explain some shit or post some more?" NOPE. INSTANT TR. Have a nice day cow you townie, don't need to post anymore. Being afk didn't make him scum. I had to judge him on what he had already posted. I would have liked him to come back. I wasn't stopping him. I didn't have a very strong townread on him, I didn't terribly mind his lynch, but I put lot of effort into defending him anyway. That's just kinda what I do. Ask koshi or someone who knows my meta. I defend scummy looking people a lot. | ||
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03-01-2016 11:28 AM ET (US) Idk what to think of that team. Damdred I want to TR TheCow i want to Scum Read. 68Shapelog 03-01-2016 11:17 AM ET (US) Another point of the cow, He had a lot of postings about scum reads and left the thread to revised them due to having to many. | ||
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nothing about qts. and yes it's lame but it's allowed and i dunno people suspecting me made me kinda irritated | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + kush 03-01-2016 11:40 AM ET (US) but i do that a lot when im town 74Shapelog 03-01-2016 11:38 AM ET (US) /m73 that is what i thought at 1st, but then he contradictions himself about fixing it. It also would be nice if he had explain them instead of going. They are scum, Now they are, No maybe they are. No I am back to think they are. 73kush 03-01-2016 11:36 AM ET (US) that's why he has too many scum reads, because ha has scumread everyone except rels. Having too many scumreads is a townie trait I think. You look at your reads and you have too many scumreads so you're like, "hmm im doing it wrong" and you reassess. 72Shapelog 03-01-2016 11:34 AM ET (US) /m71 it just does not make sense that he does not want too many scum reads, but has practically scum read everyone in his posts expect Rels. :/ 71kush 03-01-2016 11:28 AM ET (US) his read progression looks like mine. have a list one hour and have a totally different one the next. 70kush 03-01-2016 11:28 AM ET (US) whys that scummy 69Shapelog 03-01-2016 11:28 AM ET (US) Idk what to think of that team. Damdred I want to TR TheCow i want to Scum Read. 68Shapelog 03-01-2016 11:17 AM ET (US) Another point of the cow, He had a lot of postings about scum reads and left the thread to revised them due to having to many. | ||
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I want an asterisk next to this game in the database! | ||
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On March 07 2016 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not really sure if i should say what i want to here... But i'll say it anyways: + Show Spoiler + TT (no offense) you could use a bit help with your blue play.  I don't really blame him for not ccing. He got here at the end of the day and he didn't think there were enough people to change votes. | ||
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On March 07 2016 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: So protecting the dude who claimed his role instead of protecting the guy who is one of the best town players on TL and pushed the lynch of a dude who again claimed your role is good play. Okay kush. ok yeah but not ccing d1 in that circumstance i think was okay. | ||
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