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Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 14:39:33
February 16 2016 14:38 GMT
#20
Junior player. Complete newb. /in with marvellosity as senior if you'd be so kind.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 16 2016 19:23 GMT
#26
On February 17 2016 02:50 Queenfestor wrote:
/in as Junior - this is going to be my very first game and i am excited I just played Mafia on Sc2 arcades.



Mine also! Good luck.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 10:48 GMT
#158
Not a clue.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 11:45 GMT
#166
On February 29 2016 20:38 Race Bannon wrote:
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On February 29 2016 15:07 Tictock wrote:
I think it's probably just as easy as the teams trying to look all Innocent, and Jolly.

But really full of pure evil and hatered.


Pure evil AND hatred, I don't think you can be that good at being evil to achieve purity unless you absolutely love doing it.

And since you can't love hating there's a fallacy in your logic, buddy.


Sure you can love to hate? Same as enjoying complaining, no? Some people get off on misery and turmoil.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 16:20 GMT
#204
On March 01 2016 00:50 Shapelog wrote:
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On March 01 2016 00:46 Damdred wrote:
It doesn't change it really. Just have to wait and see on koshi if he stays that lurker meh.

Anyway I have town vibes from Marv but he won't let me cuddle up to him.


I thought he already has a cuddle buddy? Also I admit it would be hard for any being to cuddle a screen for extensive periods of time.


That it is.. Cold too.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 16:35 GMT
#215
On March 01 2016 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 01 2016 01:27 Shapelog wrote:
I do wonder how much nutritional value a Blahvacado has.

Well if we're going by content then he's about as nutritious as stale cardboard...


Same for us all at the moment, no? Game hasn't really picked up yet.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 16:58 GMT
#242
On March 01 2016 01:44 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 01 2016 01:35 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:27 Shapelog wrote:
I do wonder how much nutritional value a Blahvacado has.

Well if we're going by content then he's about as nutritious as stale cardboard...


Same for us all at the moment, no? Game hasn't really picked up yet.


Talking about one lurker + one active, you have any town or scum leans, Spike?


No leans really. Come back soon when there's been further progression?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 23:27 GMT
#419
On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.

Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.


Or we're not too sure what to say?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 23:32 GMT
#422
On March 01 2016 08:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 01 2016 08:27 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.

Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.


Or we're not too sure what to say?

Your partner's said less than he normally does as town and you haven't said jack. I don't think you're blue.


Guess I can't speak for him but he's been at work and for a change productive lately
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
February 29 2016 23:37 GMT
#429
On March 01 2016 08:35 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 08:32 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:27 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.

Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.


Or we're not too sure what to say?

Your partner's said less than he normally does as town and you haven't said jack. I don't think you're blue.


Guess I can't speak for him but he's been at work and for a change productive lately

Has he already explained to you why I am the most sexy man in the world and how I cannot be mafia this game?


Not at all. But you're welcome to pitch for yourself
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 10:18 GMT
#510
On March 01 2016 10:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Spikasaur do you have any suspicions? Or do you not know what to think about anything?
I'm not being sarcastic or anything with my second question btw. I'm just curious on your thoughts while marv is away.


Marv and me haven't really spent much time on this yet. Went in with high hopes but he's been too busy to really talk to me about what's going on so I'm sorta a bit clueless. Not a great help or start I know.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 10:21 GMT
#511
On March 01 2016 08:40 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 08:37 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:35 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:32 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:27 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.

Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.


Or we're not too sure what to say?

Your partner's said less than he normally does as town and you haven't said jack. I don't think you're blue.


Guess I can't speak for him but he's been at work and for a change productive lately

Has he already explained to you why I am the most sexy man in the world and how I cannot be mafia this game?


Not at all. But you're welcome to pitch for yourself

That's all? Why so neutral?
marv is scumreading me. Aren't you interested in solving the game and finding out my alignment?


You're pressing on us quite a lot, which would lead me to think you're probably scum. I don't see there's anything hard against us, unless I've missed something
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 10:28 GMT
#512
On March 01 2016 11:03 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 10:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
INCONSEQUENTIAL FEELS LIST

marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus
bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus

The last 2 are very likely town Kush. Come on bro....
Marv is obvious mafia. His junior is afraid as fuck.

I think you are the second mafia team. but I am not sure about that yet.


First one town too
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 10:52 GMT
#520
On March 01 2016 19:39 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 19:28 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:03 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 10:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
INCONSEQUENTIAL FEELS LIST

marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus
bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus

The last 2 are very likely town Kush. Come on bro....
Marv is obvious mafia. His junior is afraid as fuck.

I think you are the second mafia team. but I am not sure about that yet.


First one town too

Also. Is this a scumslip or what is this?

what do you mean with is town too?

You also townread these guys? Why?


Clearly saying first team is town too, you wally.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 10:57 GMT
#526
On March 01 2016 19:37 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 19:21 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:40 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:37 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:35 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:32 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:27 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.

Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.


Or we're not too sure what to say?

Your partner's said less than he normally does as town and you haven't said jack. I don't think you're blue.


Guess I can't speak for him but he's been at work and for a change productive lately

Has he already explained to you why I am the most sexy man in the world and how I cannot be mafia this game?


Not at all. But you're welcome to pitch for yourself

That's all? Why so neutral?
marv is scumreading me. Aren't you interested in solving the game and finding out my alignment?


You're pressing on us quite a lot, which would lead me to think you're probably scum. I don't see there's anything hard against us, unless I've missed something

O rly. Explain to me how I am scum for pressuring the guy who is really fucking good at mafia but done fucking nothing and didn't find the time to tell his boyfriend anything who he should be really happy to get into this game.

Let me explain this really easily, You 2 are mafia because:
1) marv hasn't done anything to solve the game. Yet hedged a shitton without committing. His filter is 100% mafia currently. It's not even townie who is afk. It's just blatant mafia.
2) Spikasaur hasn't done anything in the game. Didn't even try to do anything. Came into the thread a couple times just to test the waters. He doesn't even bother asking me anything while we wee in the thread before.

Now explain to me why all this doesn't make any sense and why I am mafia.


Isn't the point about hedging and gauging reactions and testing waters?
I come in not so much to test waters but to keep in thread and see how things go. Then was told last night to get off mafia because he wanted alone time. After essentially leaving me on my todd all day already.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:05 GMT
#534
On March 01 2016 19:57 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should spam though. Too make this somewhat challenging. Like if I actually defend myself this isn't really a contest. But at this point I think most people will already know who to vote for.


Would town need to spam, for any reason at all?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:09 GMT
#538
On March 01 2016 20:07 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:00 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 19:58 marvellosity wrote:
Explain yourself, Koshi. Am waiting.

About what? You being mafia? No ty. My case is in the thread. We will see what the people think.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/504019-team-melee-mini-mafia-vi-newbies-and-vets?page=26#519

I want you to tell me precisely why you misrepresent me with everything you wrote.

Do it already.

NOBODY CARES MARV. THE PEOPLE WILL CAST THEIR VOTE.

So you're admitting you misrepresented me?

Can you show me that you didn't?

Because you're building my case for me right now babycakes.

Ok. I'll explain it to the people. I don't have to explain it to you because you are mafia and I will congratulate you if you can get me lynched. That would be impressive. I am pretty sure making me post more is not going to help you. But sure. I can post stuff.
1) You hedging makes you mafia. I explained it. I don't care if you posted hedges in some other game. Like wtf? I know for a fact that you wont type that wishy washy bullshit as town so early about me. You would wait longer and if you finally would start calling me mafia or try to sway public opinion against me you would do it way fiercer. Not like this. It was meek.
2) The heuristic is fine. It just wasn't the right time for you to say it. I know it worked in a previous game. It always works. I am indeed obvious town or mafia. I explained this already.
3) I already forgot what point 3 was. Me misrepresenting you or something. I didn't. You are mafia. I represent you as mafia. The End.


Sounds like bible bullshit tbh. 'You are this bc I sed so lol'
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:10 GMT
#540
Expecting blind followers?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:11 GMT
#541
On March 01 2016 20:10 marvellosity wrote:
I told Spikasaur to ignore Koshi but he ignore me too :p


Always.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:24 GMT
#549
On March 01 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 05:08 Damdred wrote:
Hi rels,

I was going to ask you to be my friend this game, that sort of special friend you curl up with and close the door with becuase you trust each other. but now i learn that you don't trust me.

It hurts my heart, why did we get to this point.

Sincerely Damdred

Anyway, I like your Koshi read (marvs also since his was first). I am trying not to read VE yet bad history there don't feel like being called a donkey yet.

hey Koshi:

What do you think of this guy then?

Ask your boyfriend. He is caught up with the game so he can tell you how I feel about Damdred.


Going through your filter, you've not mentioned Damdred or even Cow. Rels, VE, TT, RB, Sentinel... Otherwise Damdred hasn't popped up so how could I answer that?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:46 GMT
#564
On March 01 2016 20:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Spikasaur do you agree with Marv about koshi being mafia or is he misguided town?


I don't really know what Marv thinks anymore, but I think he could be mafia. Desperately trying to get us read as mafia but with no real argument?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:48 GMT
#565
On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.

Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.


***To be continued***


Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:55 GMT
#570
On March 01 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.

Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.


***To be continued***


Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.

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On March 01 2016 20:46 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Spikasaur do you agree with Marv about koshi being mafia or is he misguided town?


I don't really know what Marv thinks anymore, but I think he could be mafia. Desperately trying to get us read as mafia but with no real argument?

So in the 5 seconds between these 2 posts I went from mafia to meta town without talking to marv while talking to marv?


Speaking bout how you played before, before we got to how you're playing now. We're smooth now. I admit I was getting confused about some things.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 14:59 GMT
#717
On March 01 2016 23:13 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:01 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:57 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:46 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:28 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:09 Rels wrote:
qob why do you think marv is scum ?

My partner and my town reads suspect him. I personally havent been focusing on him too much.

However after watching him vs. Koshi it was one sided and clear.

Why do you partner scumread him ?
Why was him vs Koshi one sided and clear ? What Koshi arguments do you think are good ?

I will let my partner speak for themself.

Koshi absolutely blew him the fuck out, it was hilarious tbh but i dont want to be a dickrider.
Koshi made him stumble over himself. There was no one part i thought was good, i was clear to me that Koshi had the upperhand, in a sense.

Do you think Koshi is scum Rels? Also where is Bannon?

tell me exactly where i stumbled. or i might just policy vote you for talking gibberish.


On March 01 2016 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider.

For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town.

Mafia is still marv.


I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia?

Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town?

This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it:

I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town.

Mafia type play.


Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv.

All this is wrong. To the bolded. I am so hedgey when I am town I make posts such as these:
On February 06 2015 20:54 marvellosity wrote:
[image loading]

Like, I literally post hedges.

Koshi *is* obvious town when he is town. I ended up scumreading him last time we played together because he looked kinda townie but he wasn't "obvious" town. He was mafia. It was a correct heuristic. It will continue to be a correct heuristic.
He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds.

Bad. I play little games all the time as town. I love little games. I have incredibly fond memories of playing games with Palmar in Rock Band where I kept quoting things from previous games with "town or mafia?".

Bet you can't find me doing this as mafia. I can provide examples as town. Koshi should know this.

The point, which was obvious, was that Sentinel was making a poor meta read and I was correcting him on it. And Sentinel admitted himself, replying to my post, that it was incorrect. So I made him rescind his incorrect read. How is this bad?

Everything Koshi writes here is wrong. *and he should know it is all wrong*. So why is he writing it?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/504019-team-melee-mini-mafia-vi-newbies-and-vets?user=marvellosity&page=2

Clearly you were flustered. This is no gibberish, its just facts.

You're scum, arent you?

Sure, until you realized that Marv for the most part did not do anything rashed.
Also I do not think Koshi had the upper hand if he had to call upon divine powers and one liners.

Can you tell me why Spike is town? The only thing he did is discredit me together with marv. What is the townie mindset there? You do realize that guy is actively following the thread right?

It is obvious mafia focussing on not getting lynched. Wouldn't town at least try to get a freaking scumread? You do realize that when he came into the thread before the last time he was completely 100% neutral towards me, even though I was already scumreading him and marv then.

Next time he scumreads me and discredits me. While marv does the same not bothering to read the thread. 5 mins later marv read the thread and already flipped his read and had me as town. While Spike was still happy to call me mafia for dnu what reasons tbh.

You got to know this spike got literally 0 reasons to call me mafia except the fact that I called them mafia. And he doesn't even know why that exactly makes me mafia. The reasons why marv called me mafia cannot be why spike called me mafia. He doesn't know the meta on marv and why everything I wrote was "bullshit" (it wasn't)

So why is he calling me mafia? Because marv told him to discredit me because that is what mafia needs to do. It is quite obvious this Spike guy is really new to the game and is just doing what marv tells him to do but he does it rather badly because he doesn't understand what he should really do.


Blah de blah de blah my issue was at first that I thought it was really suspicious that someone start pressing and attacking someone based on no real evidence. Poking a stick out at someone relentlessly, I had assumed in naivety that would have been a very mafia thing to do. Since talking it out with marv, I've learned that you're just a cock when you have innocence as your backbone. My view of you is no longer and hasn't been scum for a while.

Also worth noting I'm not actually all that actively following thread. I try to but I've still got a life to lead outside.

On March 01 2016 23:16 Koshi wrote:
I already threw some bait towards spike 20 hours ago to see if they were solving the game or did anything at all. But he is not doing anything. Dnu. Pretty sure if he was town he would at least attempt to do something.


You did? I may have missed it.

On March 01 2016 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:16 Koshi wrote:
I already threw some bait towards spike 20 hours ago to see if they were solving the game or did anything at all. But he is not doing anything. Dnu. Pretty sure if he was town he would at least attempt to do something.

and if he was mafia i could manufacture anything for him.

maybe he's struggling and i'm a terrible teacher. your logic is poor.

he seemed to agree with me that Cow/Damdred were suspicious but he couldn't articulate why very well except for using the phrase "inconsequential wank" about Damdred's filter.


Ah yeah, then I went for lunch and lost it in amongst a billion tabs, so probably closed it by accident.. So shoot me.

On March 01 2016 23:23 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 23:16 Koshi wrote:
I already threw some bait towards spike 20 hours ago to see if they were solving the game or did anything at all. But he is not doing anything. Dnu. Pretty sure if he was town he would at least attempt to do something.

and if he was mafia i could manufacture anything for him.

maybe he's struggling and i'm a terrible teacher. your logic is poor.

he seemed to agree with me that Cow/Damdred were suspicious but he couldn't articulate why very well except for using the phrase "inconsequential wank" about Damdred's filter.

Sure MAYBE. Nothing is 100% set in stone.

But the guy did FUCKING NOTHING. I am calling you 2 mafia 24/7 and he comes in here and makes 2 neutral comments. Doesn't attempt to do anything.

Then he reads another post of mine in which I call you mafia and FOR SOME FUCKING REASON WITHOUT READING ANYTHING YOUR FUCKING ADVICE TO HIM IS:

DESTROY KOSHI, DESTROY AND DESCREDIT HIM. DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE YOU READ. DESTROY KOSHI. KILL KOSHI. DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.


Come on marv. Come on. That is everything you got the poor guy to offer? I actually gave my full view on the game to my junior. I actually don't talk about the read on you in my QT. We discuss what the solution is if you are not mafia.


Marv and I really got off to a bad start, for which he's apologised and made right.

On March 01 2016 23:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@koshi try to empathize with a hypothetically town spikasaur. It's his first game. He did not find this game on his own and therefore had no natural interest in it like most newbs.
It makes sense that he doesn't have reads.


First mafia game, and also new to TL. I grew interest in this thing from shoulder watching on marv. I've been pretty used to just taking a back seat and observing more than playing. Marv was telling me to find inconsistent posts or things that seemed off, but I've been struggling.

On March 01 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
It took marv 5 minutes to read the thread and see I am town. Which is solving the game. Yet he taught his junior to make 85% of his filter to descredit me and not solve the game?

yes, he thinks you're an arse for attacking us based on shitty reasons.

imo very townie. my bf is the towniest of all townies. koshi2loser.


Absolutely fucking relentlessly. It's kinda annoying tbh...

Defend, defend, defend. Brb.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 18:08 GMT
#813
On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
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On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 18:09 GMT
#815
On March 02 2016 03:08 Spikasaur wrote:
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On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.


Also apologies for the foul language. That one was on marv.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 19:04 GMT
#824
On March 02 2016 03:59 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 02 2016 03:09 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 02 2016 03:08 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.


Also apologies for the foul language. That one was on marv.


Dude, you should just go back and look at his question. It was quite clear. The ball was not in his court. It was in yours and it still is. Refusing to participate is a mafia-aligned.


There's so many irrelevant questions, I don't even know which is the right one.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 19:05 GMT
#826
On March 01 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I really want you to explain why:
1) I am mafia.
2) You are sure that the 3 teams presented by Kush are all town.
3) Why Kush is not mafia for pushing 3 teams that are town in your mind.


Oh is this what you're referring to? I had already replied to this. When I called you wally (which you shouldn't have taken offence to, btw, it's friendly banter where I'm from), I had before written I was saying of the three teams, the top one (my team) was town. Not taking his readings. Just a fun way to say 'we're town'. Much like you with you pro tip --

On March 01 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 05:47 TheCow wrote:
Rels is almost definitely town.

Pro tip: Team Koshi is town.

I think this is a pretty good tip.


1) was already covered and backtracked. However I'll admit I didn't respond to the third, though don't see its importance now.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 21:49 GMT
#940
Where is TheCow?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 21:51 GMT
#942
Four votes on Cownado, shouldn't Cow be here?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 23:23 GMT
#1008
Beast? Peanut butter? Should we call you Simon?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 00:05 GMT
#1060
On March 02 2016 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
Could probably spite lynch sent for his read on me tbh


Voting for the sake of voting safe?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 00:08 GMT
#1064
Anyone know where Queenfestor is?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 00:18 GMT
#1078
On March 02 2016 09:18 marvellosity wrote:
The Ve stuff was kinda weird. Spikasaur wants to lynch tictock and queenfestor but can't really explain why.


No he doesn't. He said he didn't have a case.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:03 GMT
#1195
On March 02 2016 11:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On March 02 2016 10:59 Tictock wrote:
Ok caught up now.

On March 02 2016 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 09:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Why are people not voting anal prolapse seriously?
So much sxumminess.
No towniness.
Ff is here in the thread chatting but that is nai.

that's quite a good description tbh. i might have to vote them because i don't know what else to do and it's not really fair to wait to the last minute


This + the fact that Marv decided to solo vote for my team shortly after...

On March 02 2016 09:46 marvellosity wrote:
i think i'm going to waste my vote on blahvacado as i can't really muster up anything either way to tell people not to vote the rels slot or the sentinel slot, i think they could be mafia. queenfestor is kinda a non-entity and the only thing i got is tictock's weird read on sand/qob, so yea.

##vote team blahvacado


tells me Marv has no real scum reads.

I retract my townread.


at that point marv's vote wouldn't have mattered anyway. rels had 4, ff had 3. So marv's vote couldn't have affected who got lynched.

Plus I get the feeling marv did it to appease his bf and make it seem like he valued his reads. Maybe.

Thoughts? Especially on the first part of what I said.


As nice as that would be, it's sadly not his style. He'd throw me under a bus to win a game. Probably even his grandmother.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:05 GMT
#1197
On March 02 2016 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
did you have to use that exact terminology? xD


You'd get more use out of me, so grandmother would likely be first.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:22 GMT
#1203
On March 02 2016 21:19 marvellosity wrote:
dunno why this didn't occur to me at the time


Even when your JR says 'VEs change his mind a little, huh'. Tut tut. You must have been pretty stoned.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:25 GMT
#1205
On March 02 2016 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
you were with me.. :p


That's how I remember these conversations you don't, yes.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 14:20 GMT
#1262
I didn't realise he had posted this... :/
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 14:32 GMT
#1264
Tbh marv VE still seems odd to me.

On March 02 2016 07:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 02 2016 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nothing, that is, except EoD. Tomorrow though. Tomorrow.

##Unvote
##Vote: Damandcowthing

Until I get my bearings, the opposing wagon to whomever Ticktock is voting will suffice.

This is from this thread

Here is the voting thread
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On March 02 2016 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Team Blahvacado

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On March 02 2016 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team Jolly & Awesome Townies

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On March 02 2016 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team Anal Prolapse

What's going on?


and inability to answer your questions?

On March 02 2016 21:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
"WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THIS GAME OF MAFIA THAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR?!?!? ANSWER MEE!!!!!!"


On March 02 2016 22:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On March 02 2016 22:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh. I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. There may still be a parity cop all up in here :OOO

really? why not just say the obvious answer, TT?


Attacking TickTock/Blahvacado up 'til last minute, yet the vote switches a lot.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 14:40 GMT
#1267
I mean, I'm not sure what the benefit is of sporadic voting, if you're aiming at something completely diff anyways
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