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Nobody on that senior queue strikes me immediately as the kind of person I could be /devilish/ with, guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Dibs on the name Team [UoN]Sentinel
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/request FF
Prolapsed Anus ahoy
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On February 29 2016 08:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
You know what i want as a teamname
Apparently not.
Team Anal Prolapse
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1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT).
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On February 29 2016 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). I think this guy is town
Sounds like you're trying to cozy up to me. Who's your partner? He's probably a scumbag
##Vote: Fecalfeast
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On February 29 2016 12:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). Disagree unless it's intentional. I don't think lurking is any scummier than in normal games. 1 active and 1 lurker is less Scummy than 2 lurkers, 2 lurkers is very Scummy because it makes it less likely that the lurking is due to irl, and more likely that it is due to the stresses of being scum.
I did mean intentional lurking, but otherwise I actually agree with you.
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Y'all are lucky this isn't one of my MSPaint games, I'd make you draw out the teams you're voting for 
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Excellent, my favorite part of mafia is when people talk about me.
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve.
Voted for my teammate, but apparently I'm not allowed to do that in this game's rules, so I guess Team Anal Prolapse is still uncommitted.
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.
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On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia?
"random"
I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong.
On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.
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On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those
Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken.
On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment.
You're still doing it.
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On March 01 2016 03:10 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:47 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 01:36 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 01:28 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Which advice did you think was scummy? please read this On March 01 2016 00:09 Shapelog wrote:On February 29 2016 23:55 qob wrote:
@Shape it wasnt his joke, it was his "advice" that makes me susp. So this post right? On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). With the follow up of: On February 29 2016 13:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 29 2016 12:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker +1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). Disagree unless it's intentional. I don't think lurking is any scummier than in normal games. 1 active and 1 lurker is less Scummy than 2 lurkers, 2 lurkers is very Scummy because it makes it less likely that the lurking is due to irl, and more likely that it is due to the stresses of being scum. I did mean intentional lurking, but otherwise I actually agree with you. If you look at what I bolded in the 1st quoted post. I admit, there is something weird with the timing of that. Since Team Koshi posted a feel moments before: On February 29 2016 10:44 Koshi wrote:
I have decided to not post in this thread but just post in our QT. I am not sure what to think about it tbh. It feels a bit too coincidental that UON mentions a scum trait that fits one teams play style. On the same page. Maybe he was trying to respond to it? But no one was really raising a eye at it and in that case he would post "Team Koshi...." That is the post Qob, how would you compare Sentinel's entry posts to your own teammate, Sandroba, his entry posts? Did you realize FF is Sentinel's partner? Sandroba's entry post? Like, for the thread or the game? No im focusing on Sentinel rn, not this FF person. I'm more bothered by the fact that Qob says he's focusing on Sentinel but he doesn't even know who his teammate is or does any effort in actually understanding the context of his (couple of) posts. Qob's opening post was just lousy; I don't think he was focused on Sentinel at all, he was just trying too hard to find something of value to post about. I didn't like his rant against Marv either but I don't think it's AI.
I honestly think it was just a hunch he had that he then tried to back up with evidence. Not a scumtell IMO
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On March 01 2016 04:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Excellent, my favorite part of mafia is when people talk about me. On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. Voted for my teammate, but apparently I'm not allowed to do that in this game's rules, so I guess Team Anal Prolapse is still uncommitted. On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. Why ? Koshi has not done anything and Felkyr has asked kinda useless questions.
Before I checked his town/maf ratio, anecdotal evidence told me funny koshi = town koshi
I now recant this position.
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On March 01 2016 05:36 qob wrote:
Unlike my partner Team Anal Prolapse is still my main suspect. Unfunny team name might i add.
Part of your argument was that my vote on my own teammate was scummy.
You're allowed to admit you're wrong, you know.
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On March 01 2016 06:03 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 06:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 05:36 qob wrote:
Unlike my partner Team Anal Prolapse is still my main suspect. Unfunny team name might i add.
Part of your argument was that my vote on my own teammate was scummy. You're allowed to admit you're wrong, you know. You and you're partner seem to lack the ability to read. Is there a problem with my grammar? I know its not perfect but I think im making myself clear enough. LOL
You messed up.
If
On February 29 2016 23:55 qob wrote:
@Shape it wasnt his joke, it was his "advice" that makes me susp.
then
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve.
Why bring it up as half of your argument in your argument against me?
On March 01 2016 06:34 Koshi wrote:
Or if anybody else wants to explain it?
Sentinel says I am town.
marv and somebody else says something else but marv in particular.
Sentinel changed opinions.
never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?
What do you mean by that last sentence?
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Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.
Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them.
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Still waiting on explanation of this
never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town?
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On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote.
Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF?
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On March 01 2016 07:41 bumatlarge wrote:
I've had enough of mafia for today, just pretend I said half the things VE said.
You haven't done much to begin with, but since you've announced your presence in the thread, who do you think is scum and why?
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On March 01 2016 08:13 Koshi wrote:
I also am going to really stop posting in this thread now unless somebody asks me a direct question.
How about you answer mine then
On March 01 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? You realize I will not answer that question right? Somebody else should do it.
What is town on town and mafia on mafia?
On March 01 2016 08:06 TheCow wrote:
Team Anal Prolapse and Team Fairly Odd Couple are my current pool.
You actually want to give some reasoning for once or you just going to sheep qob till the cows come home?
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On March 01 2016 08:27 Spikasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just realized my point about 1 active + 1 intentionally lurking applies to blue roles as well if it's the new player lurking. Doesn't have to be lurking either, just playing extremely safe and not saying anything.
Might be mitigated later in the game with the other player coaching them. Or we're not too sure what to say?
Your partner's said less than he normally does as town and you haven't said jack. I don't think you're blue.
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On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal.
On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly.
Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.
So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't.
Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.
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On March 01 2016 09:08 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant? For a player of my stature im being quite humble. I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend. Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced Man, you cannot lie to me. I see right through this. You're scum. Thats the end of the story my friend. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. YO LOL TOWNS PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS SHIT <---- So Sentinal is literally out of options. We both know he is scum at this point. So Stentinal's last ditch effort is to say "well you're TOTALLY hiding something omggeg" What is this shallow attempt to get pressure off of you? Have you seriously run out of options that you are throwing baseless attacks at me? I know i am a skilled player, so please treat me like one. If this is your actual defense then holy shit please improve, you're getting rekt by a newbie.
Nigga it didn't take you two sentences to contradict yourself
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On March 01 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider. For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town. Mafia is still marv. I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia? Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town? This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it: I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town. Mafia type play. Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv.
This is actually a really well-reasoned point.
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On March 01 2016 11:29 bumatlarge wrote:
I have to read all of this? This is daunting... you people post too much, it's the first day. But this one VE guy looks pretty townie. Yep, he's 100% town. I just need to work on the rest of you.
Not helping VE's case RN
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What the actual fuck is mafia on mafia supposed to mean. Answer my question.
Anyways, I have to kill an exam but I'll be back later in the day. If you aren't already, please continue sheeping me until that point. It improves the quality of my reads when I see people being wrong.
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Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed?
I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens:
You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu.
Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this:
1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling.
2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments.
3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it".
4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it.
5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them.
On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this?
Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from.
On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Show nested quote +Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.
By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".
Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv.
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On March 02 2016 02:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious".
Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. So because I'm trying to see both sides of your alignment rather than just tunnelling, i am mafia? okay sent, that's great.
A combination of seeing both sides of me when nobody else is, and the fact that you don't use any hard language. You don't say this is towny or scummy. It's just understandable or suspicious. Everyone else then commutes these points.
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On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed? I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens: You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu. Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this: 1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling. 2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments. 3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it". 4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it. 5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them. On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from. On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious". Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town?
I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv.
I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good.
Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all.
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On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion 
Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.
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On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer. so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment? are you for real?
By all means, go ahead. It would be way more productive than doing this silly noncommittal bullshit on me.
Of course the best option would be actually formulating a strong opinion instead of letting others do it for you.
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On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town. 
Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here?
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On March 02 2016 04:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
it's like race bannon is scumreading me and buddying me at the same time...
Let me explain the small piece of meta that everyone is using to townread me. When I'm scum I don't care at all. This has been proven to be true over several years.
While I'm still thinking about meta - I can't counter this either through anecdotal evidence or the database. Yet.
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On March 02 2016 04:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 04:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town. Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here? Perhaps you are missing the fact that it was a joke?
Probably. So why is Shape shitposting so much?
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On March 02 2016 04:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 04:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 04:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 04:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town. Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here? Perhaps you are missing the fact that it was a joke? Probably. So why is Shape shitposting so much? Just because he didn't shitpost in 1 towngame doesn't mean he never shitposts as town. Does it?
I mean in general. Although that's 100% of games in the database he didn't shitpost as town.
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Another win for yours truly!
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On March 02 2016 04:41 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Sent I have a weird question for you. If you were mafia who would you push?
If I were mafia... first let's assume FF and I are the only scum for a moment and everyone else is town. I think I would've picked a couple different targets during the time I was pushing qob. Maybe TheCow because even though someone (was it Shape?) who mentioned Cow and qob played together before, the sheep he did on me wouldn't've been hard to punish, and then all I'd need to do is construct an adequate case on Damdred. I also probably would've instigated Koshi a little more once I looked into the meta, replying to marv's point about Koshi being scum in Mafia Awakens "oh but that's one game", and letting him bring up the point about the overwhelming majority of Koshi's games being town. And then probably recanting my point later on.
If Team Koshi was the other scum, I'd probably take marv's side and push Koshi instead, making my search through the database a sort of "a-ha" moment. If team marv was the other scum, I'd probably do the same. Maybe I'd tell him to up his postcount since he's generaly more spammy as town, and add a few points on Koshi. The smarter play would be to distance but I think if I approached it from a different unrelated angle than marv.
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On March 02 2016 04:50 marvellosity wrote:
If sentinel is basing everything on meta I should be lock town to him...
I can make jokes too.
Nah the only meta so far I'm taking into account is kush's, and even then he's only slightly green to me atm.
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On March 02 2016 04:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer. so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment? are you for real? By all means, go ahead. It would be way more productive than doing this silly noncommittal bullshit on me. Of course the best option would be actually formulating a strong opinion instead of letting others do it for you. I don't understand your reason for scumreading marv. He has strong opinions; in your case he's more nuanced but it's not a global remark. Someone being not sure about someone else is not scum indicative.
After looking through his filter, this is actually true. Really the only points I could make to support my claim outside of anything marv's said about me is that post that Koshi got him for.
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On March 02 2016 05:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 04:50 marvellosity wrote:
If sentinel is basing everything on meta I should be lock town to him... I can make jokes too. Nah the only meta so far I'm taking into account is kush's, and even then he's only slightly green to me atm. Didn't you just meta shapelog about shitposting, or was that just a joke? Also you didn't answer my question right. The game is exactly how it is right now but you are scum. What team would you push to lynch? thecow/damdred?
First I thought he was serious, you said it was a joke, I made my own joke about it being an open and shut case.
Me personally I'd probably find a juicier target cause of WIFOM. If they flip green I'm not gonna look too hot since cow/damdy aren't around to defend themselves much. If they're the other scumteam I'd probably bus.
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On March 02 2016 05:09 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 05:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 05:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 04:50 marvellosity wrote:
If sentinel is basing everything on meta I should be lock town to him... I can make jokes too. Nah the only meta so far I'm taking into account is kush's, and even then he's only slightly green to me atm. Didn't you just meta shapelog about shitposting, or was that just a joke? Also you didn't answer my question right. The game is exactly how it is right now but you are scum. What team would you push to lynch? thecow/damdred? First I thought he was serious, you said it was a joke, I made my own joke about it being an open and shut case. Me personally I'd probably find a juicier target cause of WIFOM. If they flip green I'm not gonna look too hot since cow/damdy aren't around to defend themselves much. If they're the other scumteam I'd probably bus. You still didn't answer my question. And don't offer me hypotheticals for different scumteams. If you were scum with whomever is actually scum this game, who would you push?
I don't know who the hell scum is. And considering I'm not sure if the team I'd push (cow/damdy) is scum or not, the hypotheticals are kind of a big deal.
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On March 02 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 05:18 sandroba wrote:On March 02 2016 05:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 04:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 04:50 marvellosity wrote:
If sentinel is basing everything on meta I should be lock town to him... I can make jokes too. Nah the only meta so far I'm taking into account is kush's, and even then he's only slightly green to me atm. Didn't you just meta shapelog about shitposting, or was that just a joke? Also you didn't answer my question right. The game is exactly how it is right now but you are scum. What team would you push to lynch? thecow/damdred? Kush why are you assuming constantly that damdred/cow are town? I lightly townread them. But I was trying to push sent into making commitments about what scummy people he thought were town. Not so much giving my own reads.
Then how about asking me what scummy people I think are town?
In which case I'd say VE/bum. They haven't done anything to make me think they're scum.
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On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset.
Ok buddy you convinced me
##Vote: Team Thecownadow
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On March 02 2016 05:48 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 05:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset. Ok buddy you convinced me ##Vote: Team Thecownadow I think you are on the wrong team sir. All I'm seeing from you right now is OMGUS
His argument. I just put it into action.
Also a bit mad because I have no idea where my teammate is.
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On March 02 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
I understand why you are upset with him UN...
Your vote says otherwise.
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On March 02 2016 06:11 Damdred wrote:
FF is a smart player generally who has good reads and besides the cell game he was out of early he rolled scum 3-4 times in a row
I'm the cell game he was taken put of he said that he was super tires of rolling scum and happy he rolled tpwm.
Just from a tone standpoint he 100% shows none of his joy/happiness that he rolled town. Instead it is more of a resignation it feels like.
His dodging of my question and then saying I was stretching my thought on his scum slip. And since then basically hasn't done anything that says town ff.
Sents vote on me also feels super opportunistic without any real thought behind it.
I'll give more reasons for sent in a moment.
It's more on cow than you per se. I didn't like him since that sheep vote.
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On March 02 2016 06:15 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed? I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens: You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu. Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this: 1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling. 2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments. 3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it". 4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it. 5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them. On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from. On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
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lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious". Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town? I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv. I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good. Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all. So Sentinel, did you look into Spikey? What do you think? I just want to point out that I reread Sentinel's filter and despite his recent activity there are still absolutely no reads. He is 'looking into people' but he hasn't come out with any real attempt to solve the game. He just voted the other wagon for no good reason (isn't that convenient). Despite the pressure he isn't trying. His responses to Kush's questions were also bad. Most of what he is saying is 'I would bus but I don't know who mafia is right now so I don't know who I would bus'.
Regarding Spike, he's been doing better these last 24 hours than before, but still can't conclude much.
I'm not going to promise anything I can't deliver. What I can say is that kush's team is in the green, which as you can see is a judgment I promised to make (regarding kush, not his towniness). Still wondering about you but qob seems green to me as well.
My responses were bad because the questions were bad. "If you were mafia who'd you shoot. No, who'd you shoot right now? No forget their alignment, who'd you shoot?" If I could vote for myself this game I would, just for that. kush is still town tho, just not the best at asking questions.
Now, regarding my vote. You're absolutely right. The thing is, I've looked at this game and can't find any conclusive scums at the moment. If I had to say my two reddest reads right now, it would be cow/damdy (mostly due to cow, partially due to inactivity), and Rels/Race which is kind of a stretch because I kinda like the former but not the latter. I'll have to look at Rels at some point. Or maybe I won't if you people kill me. Then I'll fuck off and hope the next game turns out better than this one for me.
Now one of those happens to have a wagon on it. More importantly, its main competition which is currently winning is the team that includes me. Since I obviously can't scumhunt when I'm dead, the next best option is to not be dead. So I'm voting for my tenuous scumread because it's better than no scumread at all.
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On March 02 2016 06:20 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
I understand why you are upset with him UN... Your vote says otherwise. Nah it makes perfect sense that your mad at him for giving up when you guys rolled scum.
If FF doesn't show up by N1 (assuming we survive) can I just solo this one?
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I liked him going after Koshi. Also liked the fact that he actually had posts for once.
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On March 02 2016 06:34 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I liked him going after Koshi. Also liked the fact that he actually had posts for once. He never really went after Koshi?
On March 01 2016 20:24 Spikasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 20:13 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 05:08 Damdred wrote:
Hi rels,
I was going to ask you to be my friend this game, that sort of special friend you curl up with and close the door with becuase you trust each other. but now i learn that you don't trust me.
It hurts my heart, why did we get to this point.
Sincerely Damdred
Anyway, I like your Koshi read (marvs also since his was first). I am trying not to read VE yet bad history there don't feel like being called a donkey yet.
hey Koshi: What do you think of this guy then? Ask your boyfriend. He is caught up with the game so he can tell you how I feel about Damdred. Going through your filter, you've not mentioned Damdred or even Cow. Rels, VE, TT, RB, Sentinel... Otherwise Damdred hasn't popped up so how could I answer that?
On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.
Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.
***To be continued*** Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.
 On March 02 2016 03:08 Spikasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer. so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment? are you for real? You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game? But sure. Take the high road on this one. I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.
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On March 02 2016 06:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:20 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2016 06:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
I understand why you are upset with him UN... Your vote says otherwise. Nah it makes perfect sense that your mad at him for giving up when you guys rolled scum. If FF doesn't show up by N1 (assuming we survive) can I just solo this one?
Nvm I was being rash
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On March 02 2016 06:51 Felkyr wrote:Oh, is that going after Koshi? I assumed that 'going after' means he thinks Koshi is scum and is pushing him. There is no pushing at all in these posts. Just some aggressive defending. I don't like these posts at all. In any case, Sandroba you should let Sentinel speak for himself. The reason I am interested in this is because: Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed? I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens: You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu. Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this: 1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling. 2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments. 3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it". 4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it. 5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them. On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from. On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:
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lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious". Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town? I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv. I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good.Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all. So he obviously has a scum read on Marv. But that scum read just disappeared now and there is absolutely no mention of it in his previous posts. Why? Can't be just because of Spikasaur. I don't like this at all...
Had. Couldn't find any further evidence aside from his leanings on me and that one Koshi post. I made mention here:
On March 02 2016 04:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 04:02 Rels wrote:On March 02 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer. so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment? are you for real? By all means, go ahead. It would be way more productive than doing this silly noncommittal bullshit on me. Of course the best option would be actually formulating a strong opinion instead of letting others do it for you. I don't understand your reason for scumreading marv. He has strong opinions; in your case he's more nuanced but it's not a global remark. Someone being not sure about someone else is not scum indicative. After looking through his filter, this is actually true. Really the only points I could make to support my claim outside of anything marv's said about me is that post that Koshi got him for.
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On March 02 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 05:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 05:48 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2016 05:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset. Ok buddy you convinced me ##Vote: Team Thecownadow I think you are on the wrong team sir. All I'm seeing from you right now is OMGUS His argument. I just put it into action. Also a bit mad because I have no idea where my teammate is. I miss when my meta as town was to basically skip d1
I feel you. I keep telling myself (and everyone else) I'll be more active D1 but I always come in at a below average number of posts.
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On March 02 2016 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nothing, that is, except EoD. Tomorrow though. Tomorrow.
##Unvote
##Vote: Damandcowthing
Until I get my bearings, the opposing wagon to whomever Ticktock is voting will suffice.
This is from this thread
Here is the voting thread
On March 02 2016 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Team Blahvacado
On March 02 2016 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team Jolly & Awesome Townies
On March 02 2016 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team Anal Prolapse
What's going on?
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Anyone else claiming JK or doc?
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Eating rn... don't have the time to make a full case on Rels but I'd be willing to on the basis that he left the vote to the guy that's made a grand total of 9 posts this game
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Current Votecount:
Day One Vote Count
Team Anal Prolapse (3): Team xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx, Team Blahvacado, Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum, Team Innocent, Team Koshi™, Team Thecownadow
Team Thecownadow (1): Team Koshi™, Team Anal Prolapse, Team Fairly Odd Couple, Team Innocent
Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum (1): Team Jolly & Awesome Townies
Team Jolly & Awesome Townies (1): Team Thecownadow, Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum
Team Blahvacado (1): Team Innocent, Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum
Team Innocent (0): Team Blahvacado
Team Fairly Odd Couple (0): Team Koshi™
Team Koshi™ (0): Team Fairly Odd Couple
Not Voting (2): Team Fairly Odd Couple, Team Anal Prolapse
The cycle ends on Wednesday, Mar 02 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory.
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Once more to account for Felkyr
Current Votecount:
Day One Vote Count
Team Anal Prolapse (3): Team xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx, Team Blahvacado, Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum, Team Innocent, Team Koshi™, Team Thecownadow
Team Jolly & Awesome Townies (2): Team Thecownadow, Team Koshi™, Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum
Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum (1): Team Jolly & Awesome Townies
Team Blahvacado (1): Team Innocent, Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum
Team Thecownadow (0): Team Anal Prolapse, Team Fairly Odd Couple, Team Innocent, Team Koshi™
Team Innocent (0): Team Blahvacado
Team Fairly Odd Couple (0): Team Koshi™
Team Koshi™ (0): Team Fairly Odd Couple
Not Voting (2): Team Fairly Odd Couple, Team Anal Prolapse
The cycle ends on Wednesday, Mar 02 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory.
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On March 02 2016 08:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 08:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I personally don't think, drunk or sober, town!rels sees his team's vote off-wagon and still puts the confidence in his noob. dude when you are drunk you dont give a fuck.
When I'm drunk I don't tend to post in a thread where every word can be used against me unless I'm sure it won't come to bite me in the back.
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On March 02 2016 08:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
who gets drunk on a tuesday night? wtf rels
College students
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On March 02 2016 08:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
who gets drunk on a tuesday night? wtf rels
Also he's French but there's always the Super Tuesday Drinking Game
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On March 02 2016 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 08:49 sandroba wrote:
Nevermind TT, I just reread his filter and I'm back to being unsure on him. His cow comments can be interpreted as him being on the fence, but having a town lean on damdy, so it could make sense.
Please explain to me the case on Rels. Basically it's OMGUS from me, he's accusing me of everything he's doing, only he's maliciously misrepresenting my actions in this game which is worse. He doesn't care about the lynch, he spent the entirety of today trying to get a lynch on me. I mean, obviously you don't know I'm town but I do. That he's wrong doesn't make him mafia. That he doesn't care if he's wrong or right is what I'm seeing, he's just pushing me to push me, and it doesn't matter what I say or do. But maybe it always feels that way to the guy getting pushed.
Wait so you say that
On March 02 2016 08:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Can we get some votes on drunk ass Rels now?
And this
But your vote is still on FF and me?
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On March 02 2016 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
Could probably spite lynch sent for his read on me tbh
Yeah but you have principles. Also it's gonna be the biggest pain in your ass when I flip green
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Still a 25% chance there's a parity cop and Damdy was full of shit.
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On March 03 2016 05:59 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 04:53 marvellosity wrote:
wow sand
much copy
you must like imitating the pros <3 i was the first to call of anal. First game but already better than the majority.
First to be wrong good job
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I might've been right after all.
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Damdred/Cow, who did you protect?
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On March 03 2016 10:26 Damdred wrote:
I did as Marv asked me to and jailed offensivly as he told me to go for TT I tried to wifom a bit and went with VE to try to block him but it didn't work.
And as for the timing of my claim, it gave thread 2 hours to decide if my claim was legit and it made it so that if there was any jk who wanted to cc me there would be plenty of time and thread coudl decide between the two of us.
I wanted no last second confusion about lynching a PR I wanted thread to know with ample time and to decide if the claim was legit or not and if there was a CC with it.
Obviously there wasn't and I don't get why the semi-case on my claim.
What do you mean "it didn't work"?
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On March 03 2016 10:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:27 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 05:36 Damdred wrote:
I don't want to argue setups or what's more likely.
And I wish my partner was active idk where the hell he went to I put my action in for the night though.
And I'll be home before deadline to post reads in case mafia shoots me I miss my block. Like here Damdred is aware mafia might shoot him but his reads post doesn't show any effort. The bolded looks like he's setting himself up for going "Oops my block was wrong" I think the JK block only goes through if there's one mafia and you block him. Not sure about that. I don't see how people can suspect that claim.
On February 14 2016 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:
-The mafia KP is 1. KP is factional and may not be roleblocked.
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On March 03 2016 10:39 Tictock wrote:
My guess is it's Team Cownado and Team Anal Prolapse.
Marv was prob killed to further implement Team OMGUS, but it's possible they are scum instead of FF's team.
You're telling me in order to save ourselves FF and I bussed our teammate?
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On March 03 2016 10:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
so using jk offensively is useless?
Unless you really don't want scum to find out whether or not there's a parity cop.
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On March 03 2016 10:44 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:39 Tictock wrote:
My guess is it's Team Cownado and Team Anal Prolapse.
Marv was prob killed to further implement Team OMGUS, but it's possible they are scum instead of FF's team. You're telling me in order to save ourselves FF and I bussed our teammate? It's not impossible. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong.
What do you think we gain from that?
Why wouldn't we just claim JK?
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On March 03 2016 10:44 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:35 Tictock wrote:
Why? I wasn't at all sure that Damdred was scum, had no idea if enough people were around to swap even if I was sure he was scum from the fakeclaim.
Seemed far better to wait, look into the matter, and see what happened at the start of today.
If Damdred was town fake claiming here, I was sure mafia would shoot him. In that case my jail on him would have given us 2 confirmed town today. That logic is retarded. If damdred is mafia and delivering the shot we would see the exact same result as if mafia shot him. And then you would say it's 2 "confirmed town". I find it hard to believe you put this little thought into your plan.
jfc
On February 14 2016 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:
-The mafia KP is 1. KP is factional and may not be roleblocked.
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On March 03 2016 10:47 sandroba wrote:
what is up with marv's plan then to offensive role block. wtf.
so it's more likely damdy is lying because he does not understand his own role.
And TT is just a damn criminal for not comming foward with this info before.
There's a good 5 teams who weren't aware you can't block KP (actually I didn't even know until I tried to find out which member sends in the KP), they can't all be scum.
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On March 03 2016 10:48 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:44 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 10:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:39 Tictock wrote:
My guess is it's Team Cownado and Team Anal Prolapse.
Marv was prob killed to further implement Team OMGUS, but it's possible they are scum instead of FF's team. You're telling me in order to save ourselves FF and I bussed our teammate? It's not impossible. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong. What do you think we gain from that? Why wouldn't we just claim JK? You had FF to spam up the thread. Damdred prob didn't have time, and Cow has gone poof. So they claimed. I also know Damdred loves to bus as scum, and what good scumlet doesn't love to double bus? It really confuses us townies... well usually.
So let me get this straight:
1. I'm scum and about to be lynched
2. To avoid this, I bus the shit out of my teammate
3. My teammate is now about to be lynched
4. To avoid this, he claims a role with a 25% chance of successfully avoiding CC
5. All of this works and JAT gets lynched instead
I can't even read the thread correctly, there's no way we could pull off a Joker level maneuver like that.
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On March 03 2016 10:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still a 25% chance there's a parity cop and Damdy was full of shit. What do you mean here?
Damdred took the risk and claimed JK. Assuming he's scum there's 1 in 4 setups where nobody can counterclaim (the one with parity cop and JK, since parity cop doesn't know if there's a JK or not)
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On March 03 2016 10:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Worst case scenario:
5-2 now
lynch incorrect jk claim
4-2
nk
3-2 lynch mafia fakeclaim
3-1
nk
2-1
IDK why mafia would cc now just to maybe achieve a final 3 situation down the line...
If TT is right then the fakeclaim is a green.
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On March 03 2016 11:15 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:48 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 10:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:44 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 10:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:39 Tictock wrote:
My guess is it's Team Cownado and Team Anal Prolapse.
Marv was prob killed to further implement Team OMGUS, but it's possible they are scum instead of FF's team. You're telling me in order to save ourselves FF and I bussed our teammate? It's not impossible. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong. What do you think we gain from that? Why wouldn't we just claim JK? You had FF to spam up the thread. Damdred prob didn't have time, and Cow has gone poof. So they claimed. I also know Damdred loves to bus as scum, and what good scumlet doesn't love to double bus? It really confuses us townies... well usually. So let me get this straight: 1. I'm scum and about to be lynched 2. To avoid this, I bus the shit out of my teammate 3. My teammate is now about to be lynched 4. To avoid this, he claims a role with a 25% chance of successfully avoiding CC 5. All of this works and JAT gets lynched instead I can't even read the thread correctly, there's no way we could pull off a Joker level maneuver like that. Point 2 is false You didn't bus the shit out of cownadow, you barely even said any reasons why they were scum. You like only vote them after they voted you. And the votes on each other by both teams were severely underexplained. If team cownadow flip mafia then points 3-5 are a given. So this does not seem far-fetched at all. If team cownadow is scum WHY would they try to pull a Rels lynch out of thin air instead of lynching your team?
On March 02 2016 05:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset. Ok buddy you convinced me ##Vote: Team Thecownadow
On March 02 2016 06:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:11 Damdred wrote:
FF is a smart player generally who has good reads and besides the cell game he was out of early he rolled scum 3-4 times in a row
I'm the cell game he was taken put of he said that he was super tires of rolling scum and happy he rolled tpwm.
Just from a tone standpoint he 100% shows none of his joy/happiness that he rolled town. Instead it is more of a resignation it feels like.
His dodging of my question and then saying I was stretching my thought on his scum slip. And since then basically hasn't done anything that says town ff.
Sents vote on me also feels super opportunistic without any real thought behind it.
I'll give more reasons for sent in a moment. It's more on cow than you per se. I didn't like him since that sheep vote.
On March 02 2016 06:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:15 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed? I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens: You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu. Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this: 1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling. 2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments. 3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it". 4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it. 5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them. On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from. On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
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Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
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why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious". Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town? I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv. I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good. Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all. So Sentinel, did you look into Spikey? What do you think? I just want to point out that I reread Sentinel's filter and despite his recent activity there are still absolutely no reads. He is 'looking into people' but he hasn't come out with any real attempt to solve the game. He just voted the other wagon for no good reason (isn't that convenient). Despite the pressure he isn't trying. His responses to Kush's questions were also bad. Most of what he is saying is 'I would bus but I don't know who mafia is right now so I don't know who I would bus'. Now, regarding my vote. You're absolutely right. The thing is, I've looked at this game and can't find any conclusive scums at the moment. If I had to say my two reddest reads right now, it would be cow/damdy (mostly due to cow, partially due to inactivity), and Rels/Race which is kind of a stretch because I kinda like the former but not the latter. I'll have to look at Rels at some point. Or maybe I won't if you people kill me. Then I'll fuck off and hope the next game turns out better than this one for me. Now one of those happens to have a wagon on it. More importantly, its main competition which is currently winning is the team that includes me. Since I obviously can't scumhunt when I'm dead, the next best option is to not be dead. So I'm voting for my tenuous scumread because it's better than no scumread at all.
Not only would I be voting for my scumread, but I'd be doing it in the way that least drops me off the collective radar.
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On March 03 2016 11:06 sandroba wrote:
@sentinel who do you think is mafia with team cownadow?
Still have no idea if it's TT or Damdy tbh.
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On March 03 2016 13:01 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 12:54 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 12:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
LOL
excellent why are you excited about this? do you agree with what he is saying? Thisi s your paranoia getting you already Sand. They are just suprised that Damdred was infact mafia. Like you clearly were not despite not being sure on me a few hours ago...
Yeah this.
Haven't even read what he's saying or who he is.
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On March 03 2016 13:06 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:01 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 12:54 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 12:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
LOL
excellent why are you excited about this? do you agree with what he is saying? Thisi s your paranoia getting you already Sand. They are just suprised that Damdred was infact mafia. Like you clearly were not despite not being sure on me a few hours ago... OFC I'm paranoid about team anal, because team cow went out of their way not to lynch them and lynch rels. And I said "I'm 99.9% sure TT is telling the truth", I wouldn't say I'm surprised team cow flipped mafia, but I was extatic to get confirmation I still am somewhat good at this game.
Did they not have their vote on us?
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On March 03 2016 13:09 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:05 Tumblewood wrote:On March 03 2016 13:03 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 13:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Unless you guys have an explanation that I missed really yo, don't waste your time reading team blahvacado. K nvm ignore everything I said because clearly there's no hope of identifying their alignment This is exactly why I picked Blahvacado you know.
Should've been Team Eiffel 65
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That's actually a really good case. I can't offer a better alternative, as much as I'd love to. All I can say is that strategy was ridiculous.
Anyways, I hate to disappoint but I'm not actually red this game.
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On March 03 2016 13:36 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:26 sandroba wrote:
Yes, sent and FF are the last mafia. I'm sure of it. You could be right actually, UN is just sitting on the sidelines. Clearly reading the game yet not really doing anything. On the other hand he just pointed me in the direction of an amazing song list. It's anyone's guess.
My only defense is meta. I usually put up a way better defense as scum. I play better as scum in general. I got something to lose.
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My song list is amazing though. Fastest keyboarder in my college.
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Until then, gonna read some filters and go find a scum.
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I agree with the paranoia. I don't think it's scum play. It actually reminds me a lot of yamato's town play.
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I've actually talked to FF in the QT but I'm starting to have second thoughts about sandroba.
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