Who Wants to be a Millionaire Cell Mini Mafia

On February 23 2016 08:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


hell no. his group is easy.

On February 23 2016 08:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Inactive people in early cells is bad because there's not a lot of content to go off of

On February 24 2016 04:44 Shapelog wrote:
Lol I get scum read by everyone as Town! And I get town read by everyone as scum!
Kush rekt! me with his slander over the TL forums.

Anyways time to be useful.
@Damdred can you please respond to:

On February 24 2016 05:49 sicklucker wrote:


good point on ritoky

On February 24 2016 05:56 ritoky wrote:
vivax, if you could pick the ideal spot for your cell to go, which would it be?

On February 24 2016 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

Vivax has dedicated himself to being more unreadable since he keeps getting lynched for stupid garbage and I don't really blame him, but he will absolutely step up if he's town because that's just how he is provided that he's done offering himself up for lynch just to break his meta. (I'm actually pretty sure that he finished with that a while ago but I'm not entirely sure and I refuse to do research just to figure that out.)

Kush seems relatively town and is being bad at reading me as per usual so whatever there. Kush is mediocre and apathetic as scum and is usually lynched relatively quickly, whereas he almost always looks town and plays like town as town.

Bumatlarge is doing nothing along with Vivax and that's all I can say about that slot. I've never played with him so I don't know what he's like regardless.

I can read Vivax pretty well when he starts doing work so regardless of when this cell goes I think we can make it work. First is probably not a great idea but after that it's probably fine. Vivax can only remain low-key for so long.

On February 24 2016 04:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I rethought things in the shower - maybe E should go second.
Bum is very likely mafia so that might just be an easy lynch cell.

Cell A

If anything, I don't think ritoky is the scum in this cell - I'm a huge fan of his super-American rhetoric and the fact that he's actively trying to figure out the best order and such is townpoints for him. Some of his questioning is a little all over the place but he's trying to do things and that always makes me think highly of people.

I think I'm leaning towards kura being the scum in this cell. His posts have been horribly underwhelming and he isn't even trying to talk about anything relevant. Sicklucker has some weird posts, but sicklucker always does and I don't think less of him for it. The biggest strike I can come up with against him is that he came up with some weird percentage as to why ritoky shouldn't be mayor but couldn't come up with an alternative, though I'm not sure that's a relevant point.

So Cell A: We have Rik, SL, and Kura.

Funny enough, I have played with each of these lovely people once. They also all died before D2 when I played with them. I really do not know a lot about them. Rik, Who I want to town read, but have this "tryhard scum" feel from him. Pardonidia is a bitch right? SL, Has a weird entrance but is just weird in general. So I need to watch him. And then Kura.

Kura from what I know, is a low content poster (as town mind you). He got lynched in the Newbie due to "Scum slip." For those wanting a filter from him that game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix?user=Kuragari42
From what i can tell, he was much more Srsy. in that game than this one. This one he is joking and stuff like that. It is different from b/4 though to say the least. Maybe the Free posting from him is just him excited.

On February 24 2016 06:21 Shapelog wrote:

Anyone going to agree that the first quote came after the second?
Also Vivax, Have you seen my mafia game in Newbie XIX? Tell me that I am a underwhelming as scum I dare you!

On February 24 2016 06:22 Shapelog wrote:
I have a read on him. I said scum. I said he is very sus./scummy for wanting his group to go 4th.

On February 25 2016 04:42 ritoky wrote:


thats the kinda soft-bus for credit later kinda posts i make when i am scum.

On February 25 2016 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not coincidence that all the people i have as scum are voting me, its because they are scum lol

On February 25 2016 05:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
^*their.

@Vivax, vayne's bum read looks tooscummytobescum honestly.

On February 25 2016 05:29 darthfoley wrote:


Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels.

On February 25 2016 05:32 Kuragari42 wrote:


This is the only cell in which all 3 players flip. FF confirmed inno. Whoever gets lynched flips (right?). And the last is whichever the lynch wasn't.

On February 25 2016 05:34 darthfoley wrote:


Because if Rels is town and we just disagree on what "aggressive" play is, and LS is mafia, it makes more sense. My cell has a third person people seem to be forgetting

On February 25 2016 05:36 VayneAuthority wrote:


I mixed up randombum and bumatlarge, an easy mitake tbh. Bumatlarge was actually super over the top happy as town so its true my read was wrong. Again though, i have very little interest in the other cells as i wont be playing.

On February 25 2016 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
it was 8 years ago dude, looked up the game just for you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg

who would expect there to be 2 ppl named after bums

On February 25 2016 05:43 darthfoley wrote:
Okay;

in my cell, I know Rels or LS is mafia. I have already talked about why I didn't like Rels's analysis of cells D and C, which after a long period of AFK seems kinda like scum catching up. I didn't like his reasoning, but towns often see the game in different perspectives. Basically, while I disagree with Rels's methodology, our disagreement does not necessarily mean he is mafia.

If you're asking why I think Rels's VA read wasn't good, just look at my filter. He described his play as aggressive, implying he had been pushing leads and stuff. I think it's quite clear that it's either the wrong adjective to use, or a false description.

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I do however, find it odd that LS was kinda universally town read D1, and has been pretty hands off since, during the cell D discussion AND the arguments between me and Rels. After all, he knows one of us is mafia (if he's town) and would be much more invested in us. Look at my post above; I don't think that post comes from LS who's been following the game or particularly cares which one of us eventually ends up being scum read, because in this scenario, Rels and I are both town and mafia gets the +1 regardless.

On February 25 2016 05:55 ritoky wrote:
thats a top quality gif. you have gif master ritoky's approval.

On February 25 2016 05:58 ritoky wrote:
i disagree with you though i think there's a very real chance darth is town. that post i quoted recently is pretty town. he basically says:

here are LS's reads -> oh wow they line up fairly close to mine -> wait a second, he thinks i am more mafia than rels -> shouldn't he think the opposite if he agrees with me and disagrees with rels? -> pressure him on this point.

that's a pretty town line of play.

On February 25 2016 06:14 ritoky wrote:
yo vivax, how much % of you actually thinks i am mafia, and how much % just wants to lynch me cuz i slandered you?

On February 25 2016 06:45 Rels wrote:

Going to sleep; Vivax can you explain what you meant by "The soft bus stuff he used against darth reminded me of that" ? Reminded you of what exactly ?

On February 25 2016 06:47 Fecalfeast wrote:

lol you seem really eager to act like you're helping

On February 25 2016 23:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


but his outburst did not seen genuine to me.
FF said he was talking a lot to possibly counter his scum meta. Then LS got mad?

On February 26 2016 00:04 darthfoley wrote:
OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE TOWN READING LS FOR CAPS LOCK IM SO ANGRY

On February 26 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:


Hehe this is really a thing though. I actually lost Drams because of people confirming themselves as town by raging.

On February 26 2016 00:11 Rels wrote:

LS, GB, rsoultin.
And my teammate Shining not fake raging enough. p:

On February 26 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
its possible mafia are just sac'ing this cell since we used 50/50 on it and just having breshke say nothing so he doesnt spew any info. mafia talk about that stuff all the time. as a result i also would not give anyone too much cred on this cell as time progresses.

I don't really feel a need to post beyond this.

On February 26 2016 23:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax, where are you at concerning Rels/DF?

On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:


im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party.

I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier

On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games).

On February 23 2016 09:08 ritoky wrote:


what do you think of breshke so far? or anyone

On February 23 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Personally breshke is a bit of a mixed bag.

Part of the problem is that his posts relay a little bit of conufsiom on the setup and part of me goes it would be easy for scum bresh to try to survive on that.

While another side of me thinks he would try to be a bit more strong here and not try to put the confused town forward.

So atm I'm thinking bottom of null .

On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games).

On February 23 2016 11:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I just got home and read the thread: I kinda mad that people think my cell should go first since I know I am easily readable as the game progresses...... sicklucker's entrance seems bad because it just a very bad excuse........ I like kush right now and same with ritoky because of their questioning. Breshke after his entrance seems okay but Breshke is easier to find as scum after the first couple of day phases(I vigged him when he rolled scum vs me in NYE Party).

On February 27 2016 00:45 LightningStrike wrote:

I didn't like it at the time because he wanted his Cell to be last which is very strange(and now we know why) but then I started liking some of his posts but then he decided not to do jack shit when it was his Cell to go first.

On February 23 2016 10:13 Breshke wrote:


Why would only mayor be interested in cell order? I'm not interested in being mayor because i don't think my cell should be one of the last ones because i don't think im a strong player

Right now im fine with damdred or rit as mayor

On February 27 2016 01:15 Rels wrote:

good luck bro
Can you explain the bolded in your post ?

On February 27 2016 01:20 Rels wrote:

I don't think so. There are multiple reasons DF is scum, and even if you don't think the rage is town indicative, LS is playing like he does as town when apparently he's way more timid as scum.

On February 27 2016 09:35 ritoky wrote:
i know my read on LS is awful, but he literally has given 0 fucks toward finding scum, and once he spammed caps and got his freebie town reads he has pretty much checked out mentally.....meanwhile you got 2 guys making cases out their asses....but for some fucking reason neither even considers LS possible...just blows my fucking mind.

On February 27 2016 11:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


Are we reading the same thread?? Rels has been the most vocal, protown person this game. You may think he's wrong or even scum, but he's still been the most vocal protown person in the game.

On February 27 2016 11:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What particularly is town from darth, vivax? Help me see the light.

On February 28 2016 03:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Yeah...

On February 28 2016 04:23 Rels wrote:

Voting me because I have confident townreads is bullshit.
Especially since my confident townreads out of cells are you, kush and ritoky and you agree with all of those I think ? Only the LS one is weird to you.

On February 28 2016 05:50 darthfoley wrote:
darthfoley (6): sicklucker, LightningStrike, Rels, nnn_thekushmountains, ObiWanShinobi, bumatlarge
Rels (3): darthfoley, Vivax, Shapelog
LightningStrike (1): Kuragari42,
Not Voted (2): ritoky, Damdred

idk something like that

On February 28 2016 06:43 ritoky wrote:
i am gonna be so salty at so many people here in postgame if LS is scum and you all hard defended him over horseshit

On February 28 2016 06:47 ritoky wrote:


because it has no consequence and there are not enough people to get him lynched.

On February 28 2016 07:13 Shapelog wrote:
Like

Darth was town
Damdred is prob. town (at least that is what my lastest vibes told me)
I am Town, b.c I know things
Ritoky is town'
I am pretty sure you are town
Kura is more towny right now then SL.

That is a pretty soild town list we have tbh (even if you do not believe my or kuras townieness)

On February 28 2016 07:18 ritoky wrote:
ask the audience has been used.

On February 28 2016 08:24 bumatlarge wrote:
So now I have to try to do something? -_- It's vivax, not kush

On February 28 2016 09:47 sicklucker wrote:


my activity esp at deadline never is based on my alignment it depends if i have something better to do

On February 29 2016 23:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

Why won't you mind? The last cell is really hard.

On March 01 2016 02:21 Kuragari42 wrote:
Well.. Vivax's filter is pretty lame after reading it.

On February 23 2016 09:08 ritoky wrote:


what do you think of breshke so far? or anyone

On February 23 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Personally breshke is a bit of a mixed bag.

Part of the problem is that his posts relay a little bit of conufsiom on the setup and part of me goes it would be easy for scum bresh to try to survive on that.

While another side of me thinks he would try to be a bit more strong here and not try to put the confused town forward.

So atm I'm thinking bottom of null .

On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.

All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?

Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far

On February 23 2016 11:12 ritoky wrote:
am pretty disappointed in SL's entrance here. i figured he would basically say "well, ritoky is shitting town out of every orofice, i know i am town EZ rares; put us first 1 scum down."

instead he just laid a turd on the floor

On February 23 2016 09:08 ritoky wrote:


what do you think of breshke so far? or anyone

On February 23 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Personally breshke is a bit of a mixed bag.

Part of the problem is that his posts relay a little bit of conufsiom on the setup and part of me goes it would be easy for scum bresh to try to survive on that.

While another side of me thinks he would try to be a bit more strong here and not try to put the confused town forward.

So atm I'm thinking bottom of null .

On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.

All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?

Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far

On March 01 2016 05:17 ritoky wrote:
okay so....damdred is mafia, he is voting on bum....so you vote with him?

On March 01 2016 05:22 bumatlarge wrote:
Or Rels wasn't mafia. You're gonna kick yourself after this game.

On March 01 2016 05:28 bumatlarge wrote:

I was active yesterday, whenever you wanna stop blatantly lying, that would be nice.

On March 08 2016 02:00 Rels wrote:
And Damdred was fucking impressive.
Not only was he universally townread, he also got LS to be townread enough to not be considered scum.
If he got mayor and put his cell last I think we were screwed.

On March 08 2016 02:15 Rels wrote:

Should have listened to you when you had that good find on ls ^^

On March 08 2016 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Do you remember at which point of the game this was?
I mean i was very fucking sure VA was town when i read his posts the first time and Damdred had a townread on FF and regardless of Damdred's alignment that means FF is town, so it was kinda very easy to figure out Breshke was scum.

I admit i didn't read Damdred's posts that well and with thought after i decided he has to be town.

On March 08 2016 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Reading Damdred's filter this is the only post where he gives any sort of reason for Breshke to be mafia before the mayor is elected and i don't think this is an unreasonable opinion or TMI at all.