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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 01:57 GMT
#1401
yo ritoky we gotta use our ask the girls power. why aren't you using it?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:12 GMT
#1405
On February 27 2016 11:06 darthfoley wrote:
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game


Are we reading the same thread?? Rels has been the most vocal, protown person this game. You may think he's wrong or even scum, but he's still been the most vocal protown person in the game.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:21 GMT
#1407
On February 27 2016 11:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2016 11:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 27 2016 11:06 darthfoley wrote:
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game


Are we reading the same thread?? Rels has been the most vocal, protown person this game. You may think he's wrong or even scum, but he's still been the most vocal protown person in the game.


Go away you tool, from being contributive at the start you got to just being mocking background noise now. Doesnt matter if Rels sounds protown or active, hes one able to easily fabricate that as mafia.

I'm actually unvoting cause the more darth posts the more im convinced hes town.


bruh, why you gotta insult like that..
i'm just saying what darth is saying is not making sense to me.
Do you get what angle I'm shooting at?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:23 GMT
#1408
ohhh sry i misunderstood darth. i thought he was talking about rels when he was actually talking about ls lol.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:24 GMT
#1409
What particularly is town from darth, vivax? Help me see the light.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#1411
so kura can i get a tldr conclusion?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#1413
On February 27 2016 11:29 Kuragari42 wrote:
I've got a massive headache from breathing in cleaning fumes so I'm posting this now.

Darth was the only one I wrote up an assessment of, the others are just filter dives. They should be up tomorrow we'll before the lynch with an update on DF.

so that's no, i can't get a conclusion on darth?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 03:55 GMT
#1733
Why did I vote darth?
Well he working very hard to defend himself and not very hard to identify which of rels or LS were scum.
Rels looked really townie. Never played with him as scum but everyone says he has a good scumgame. I probably should have paid more attention to him?
LS, I was trusting rels' townread on him. I'm really hoping it was LS so I can laugh at rels for his cell losing caps lock meta read.

On my to do list tomorrow: I'm going to look at vivax and bum to confirm that bum is scum. Next I'll look at the next cells and give my opinions on those bitches.
And ritoky, damn it's dumb to use ask the audience on this cell.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 03:56 GMT
#1734
On February 28 2016 12:26 sicklucker wrote:
Ok just read kushs filter and i still have no idea how to read this new tryhard kush. I suggest the ask the audience because they might read him better

I haven't even been that tryhard this game.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 18:55 GMT
#1757
On February 29 2016 03:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Bum why are you relying on super old meta?

It's like you are townreadng me too easily so you can say well vivax scum by poe and not have to do anything

nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 19:45 GMT
#1758
On February 25 2016 04:55 bumatlarge wrote:
I don't see a huge difference between VA and Breshke, other then VA has posted this:

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately

Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ?


breshke scum

my updated list is

breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL


...and Breshke has not. He's been filtering past games(?) of his cellmates, but that will not help a ton at the start of a game unless there are some serious meta patterns. Doubtful. He hasn't remarked on anyone outside his cell and it's important that he does.

We want FF and Breshke to do the same VA, and we want them all to go a bit more in depth about their lists before they leace the game. Still plenty of time.



@bum
in this post re you talk about the uselessness of using meta at the start of the game. But you go on to compare vayne's play to one of his towngames, 2 days in, a long time ago.

So if meta is useless why do you use it?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 20:05 GMT
#1759
@bum
LS yelling makes him a townie is horseshit, but otherwise I don't see him being the scum in this cell.

why not? Previously you expressed doubts about LS because he made a confirmed town ragequit.


nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 20:14 GMT
#1760
Bum
This is kind of a waste of time but whatever lol.

Day 2, Bum makes a hesitant scumread of vayne ,a hesitant townread of breshke, and votes breshke. He makes it clear that he really wants to switch to voting vayne if breshke comes back from afk. So his vote does not match his words, and the mafia motivation to save scum is clear.


Vayne is scum because he hasn't posted as townie as townie as he did in 1 post from a game a long time ago, 2 days into the game:
On February 25 2016 15:02 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
VayneAuthority
These are all his reads, and I wouldn't call them reads, more like gut feelings, because there isn't much explanation anywhere.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 23 2016 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
vivax and breshke mafia

On February 23 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2016 11:56 ritoky wrote:
On February 23 2016 11:38 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky do you have any town reads or scum reads here?

I didn't like sls entrance but idk I wouldn't want your cell up early in either instance. But I don't think for SL it was necessarily scummy just a shitty excuse


i was mildkly okay with OWS's entrance cuz of his confidence level. basically said "i can shit enough town and i can read damdred well enough that my cell is cake".

kush feels town for now

darth doesn't seem like town darth right now, he typed a big post and none of it was about the current game.

SL was underwhelming on his entrance.

VA did the town VA thing, but i kinda told him that meta read last time we played so he could easily be emulating it


you overestimate my memory, barely remember what happened in that game

but dont worry ill solve the game right now

SL
Obi
Rels
breshke
vivax

badabing

On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately

Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ?


breshke scum

my updated list is

breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL

On February 25 2016 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not coincidence that all the people i have as scum are voting me, its because they are scum lol


The only posts that go into further detail are something about me playing a game 8 years ago and confusing me with someone, which is far from scummy. At least he went through the effort of looking at a past game of mine.

And then one more post:
On February 25 2016 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
On February 25 2016 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
I work in an ENT office so i have very random internet access/downtime, so yea.

but anyways darthfoley looks even worse now, might be able to go 2-0 here.


Why do I look worse for saying, "I don't know why people are town reading FF after looking at his filter"

I found and still find his filter super underwhelming. It was at max null for me. I also don't know why this doesn't make Rels look worse for you, considering he basically drew the same conclusion as me regarding FF--> kinda useless, null or scum lean.

@Shapelog... Not sure what i'm supposed to say to you having a "weird" vibe from my #640 post.

@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

The VA town I've played with in Unoriginal didn't do much D1 and came out with a blockbuster read post that completely read my scum play, with reasoning and all. He just seems more willing to go with the flow in this game, which isn't how he played last time. His play reminds me more of the Star Wars scum game I played with him.

I find it ironic that i'm playing pretty much EXACTLY how I played Star Wars D1 last game and was universally (correctly) town read for it, but here all of a sudden everyone scum reads me. I was sort of a devil's advocate in Star Wars because I really didn't like the way the Palmar wagon was shaping up. It was basically one wagon with no alternative and everyone was jumping on; I feel similarly regarding Breshke and VA right now. Everyone scum reading the same person, especially in a game with 5!!!! scum, makes me suuuuper uneasy.

@Shapelog Meta reading me in Newbie vs. this game is completely different. This is themed, and I'm playing with much better and more experienced players. I am playing a similar game compared to Star Wars: I am willing to sheep people who are better at the game and I have read town, but I am also willing to point out logical inconsistencies and uneasy wagons when I see them.

Maybe Breshke is scum who has just gone AFK or whatever and people are trying to jump on him and get town cred, but it makes no sense for scum!darthfoley to be the only one willing to defend/challenge conventional wisdom.


you look worse for defending breshke and I now know 100% that breshke is scum, simple as that. Thats why you now look worse. dunno what tangent you were even going off on


Which is simply him connecting Breshke and darthfoley. There is an incredibly meager line that differentiates VA and Breshke. VA is capable of giving so much more. I liked this post in a previous town game that was roughly 2-3 days after the game started.

On May 08 2013 01:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
Second part Analysis of Targe

So, tonight the mafia killed somebody that pretty much nobody expected of being mafia which was interesting and raises some questions. Which of the 2 of Sugarfluff, targe, nobodywonder, and espi.casey is scum? which of Me, calgar, shirokami, and spicydinosaur is scum? If I had to guess this would be the distribution the mafia went with, 2 on the townie lynch and one in no man's land.

Jampi suspected both Targe and Espi.casey before he died, so we have to wonder if this a red herring or are these 2 really mafia? it's hard to tell. Targe was on the Jarjar lynch since the beginning, while espi jumped to it last second. This could be Targe being a sneaky mafia and carefully leading a wrong lynch, or it simply could be a townie that got a wrong read.

Probably my biggest reason for suspecting Targe right now is that I like to pinpoint a certain player in the beginning and see how they react. Much like in courts, you'll see the psychological reaction of some one that did not commit a crime and is being tried unfairly be angry/upset, while those that have committed the crime tend to be more lax and unemotional.

This has served me well in previous mafia games, where mafia will tend to just kind of semi-ignore your accusations and be pretty friendly about it as Targe has been doing.

Another reason I have for suspecting him is that he is very adamant throughout about jampi being town, and then jampi shows up as dead the first night....this fixation did not go unnoticed and was the reason I needed to see the night killing before posting this.

For the above reasons, I will be voting either Targe or Espi.casey tonight.


Something like that would make me feel better about him HINT HINT @ VA

So!
-If VA posts anything beyond this and Breshke does not, I'd feel better about Breshke being lynched.
-If Breshke makes a pretty substantial list of reads WITH REASONS, and regardless of whether VA does or does not build on what his "gut feelings", I would look closely on their most recent posts to gauge things.
I'm putting my vote on Breshke. I think Australia has had enough time to give us anything. I'll try to pick at what's been posted so far by Brush.

On that note
On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote:
basically this is where i am at:

1) i know from recent experience with him that breshke doesn't like being mafia as much as he likes being town

2) breshke has invested less in this game than basically any game he has played in years, which may be alignment indicative

3) breshke has done nothing for me to TR him, and nothing in general

4) VA did his town meta thing

5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority

thus breshke i think breshke is currently the scum


Based on what I've read in recent games, I don't get what this could possibly be, unless its making lists with no reasons. I must have missed that meta-call.




Here is his townread of breshke. Breshke is town because of
1 hard work (ok reason)
2 called vayne scum and ff town, which wasn't contradicted by the 50/50. (this reason is really bad because town could have just as easily been wrong or right after the 50/50)

On February 25 2016 15:21 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Breshke (gonna call him B because I'm lazy)
There are 2 keys to B
1) He hasn't made a read outside of his cell. Not sure if anyone told him, but we are going to know his and VAs alignment after this day, so it's worth knowing their thoughts.
2) He has what I like to call the newbie button. All you have to do is hold 'shift' and then press the '/' key after every sentence. And then you can say what you want? 'Bum is scum?' looks a lot more mild then 'Bum is scum.'

This is one of his better posts.

On February 24 2016 08:35 Breshke wrote:
Damdred are you still here? This is a lot harder than i thought it would be.

Currently after my brief skims through VA and FF's filter I havn't actually found anything scummy from either of them.

I think VA is the scum though purely from the fact that this looks exactly like what I remember from FF and i've only ever played with him as town iirc. His posts seem totally carefree and there is the random posts that do not relate to the game whatsoever. I will look through his recent scumgames though and see if it's any different.


Show nested quote +
On February 23 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 23 2016 11:56 ritoky wrote:
On February 23 2016 11:38 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky do you have any town reads or scum reads here?

I didn't like sls entrance but idk I wouldn't want your cell up early in either instance. But I don't think for SL it was necessarily scummy just a shitty excuse


i was mildkly okay with OWS's entrance cuz of his confidence level. basically said "i can shit enough town and i can read damdred well enough that my cell is cake".

kush feels town for now

darth doesn't seem like town darth right now, he typed a big post and none of it was about the current game.

SL was underwhelming on his entrance.

VA did the town VA thing, but i kinda told him that meta read last time we played so he could easily be emulating it


you overestimate my memory, barely remember what happened in that game

but dont worry ill solve the game right now

SL
Obi
Rels
breshke
vivax

badabing


I know this was at the start of the game but do you remember reasons for this list?


Aside from him not delivering about VA's past games, and hitting the newbie button so as to avoid all confrontation, he was pretty much on the money. From his point of view, he called FF town and VA scum, and the 50/50 confirms that for him. He either got lucky or made a call he wasn't afraid of. GOOD JOB BRESHKE.

On February 24 2016 09:01 Breshke wrote:
mmmm it's really difficult that your scum games are 2/3 smurf games.

Just from a skim of your wartrukk game it is very obvious that you played far more seriously. There was still some moments of idgaf but I can see how they made less sense. Not really sure how to explain that.

Im not sure how much I can attribute this to your scum game or weather it is you trying not to out your smurf though. Would you say you were actively trying to hide your identity that game FF?

I'm having trouble finding pyp even though i played in it fml


Oh, he did follow up on filtering VA. And he even went through smurfs. I would never do that, that sounds like work. More question marks, and even self-deprecation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[M][N] [W] Newbie LVIII - Disney Princess Mafia Town Vanilla Town Killed Night 2
[W] Newbie Mini Mafia LIX Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 3
[M][N] Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4
[S] Student Mafia IV Town Vanilla Survived Day 6
[M][N] Metal Mini Mafia! Mafia Vanilla Killed Night 1
[M][N] New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia Mafia Roleblocker Killed Night 2
[S] Student Mafia V Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4
[M][N] Horn of Africa Mini Mafia Town Vigilante Survived Day 3
[T] Jack of All Trades Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Night 3
[N] TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy Town Vanilla Lynched Day 5
[M][N] Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 3 Town Vanilla Survived Day 3
[T] Hajime no Ippo Maifa Town Hama Dankichi Lynched Day 7
[S] Newbie Student Mafia VII Town Veteran Endgamed Day 3
[S] Newbie Student Mafia X Town Mason Killed Night 2
[M][T] Witchcraft Mini Mafia III Town Acolyte Survived Night 2
[N] Mafia in the Himalayas Town Vanilla Killed Night 2
[N] TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden Town 1-shot Jailkeeper Killed Night 5
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XIII Town Vanilla Survived Day 4
[T] The New Personality Mafia Town Raynpelikoneet Killed Night 4
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly Town Doctor Killed Night 3
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XVII: Fullmetal Edition Mafia Roleblocker Lynched Day 2

You got 20+ games under your belt son, you can't hide behind ? forever!

On February 24 2016 11:57 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 09:41 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure that's true Breshke, if you exclude him for tone do you think any other tonal things in his openers or how he posts line up? Even if the circumstances are different we still have some of the same tells.

@LS , what do you think of the point I made about Breshke thinking about the 50/50? And who are you scum leaningok atm?


mm you are right, especially considering he says he wasn't trying to hide his smurf I just haven't really done tone reads before.

From the scum games I looked at I think that FF as scum is a bit more focused on the game. He makes far less fluff posts and when he does i feel they are still half related to the game and solving it or making excuses for himself. Like i said before it isn't like that this game he is more care free and unfocused


And the last relevant post. Again on the money before the 50/50 happened. Where are you dude? This would be a bad cell to lose.

By the way, here is the game I took VA's previous post from. If there are better ones to go off of, I'd be easily swayed.

nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 20:44 GMT
#1766
On February 29 2016 05:34 sicklucker wrote:
Bum/kush whats your current read on my cell

Dunno yet.
Is it gonna affect your read on us?
Because if it affects your read on us, that's gonna affect my read on you.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 21:46 GMT
#1770
On February 29 2016 06:38 sicklucker wrote:
like i expect mafia to be positioning themselves to vote me so they get the point. its not rocket science

But I'm not voting on your cell.
Just kinda weird that you need that information to decide on our cell.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 22:17 GMT
#1774
On February 29 2016 07:10 sicklucker wrote:
I asked you kush because you think im mafia. but if im mafia why do we have the same scum read? thats kind of what im getting at.. that does not sit right with me that you havent qeustioned this once


If you think I think you're mafia, you are putting way too much stock into my earlier lists. I don't know what you are.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 22:25 GMT
#1775
sl, i have no idea what your reads are or were, because I haven't been paying attention closely.
As for you having the same reads as me, you could be busing or those reads could be wrong. But that point isn't even relevant because of my first sentence, and the fact that I'm not even scumreading you.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 28 2016 23:17 GMT
#1777
cell b is a bitch.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 29 2016 00:39 GMT
#1779
For the next cell I'm gonna shape is scum because the other two look town and I don't want to read shape's filter.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 29 2016 00:45 GMT
#1780
last scum = kura?
Not gonna read those filters though.

So basically I'm saying gl with that shit, peace out.
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