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On February 12 2016 04:30 justanothertownie wrote: Then be responsible and don't play. Noone benefits from you playing when you don't have the time. you b. id rather have a little gb than no gb at all. Just because you prefer your games a certain way, do not assume that all players share your preferences. | ||
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On February 16 2016 06:04 sicklucker wrote: Dear diary Today I woke up exited to play a game of mafia! Then I looked at the playerlist .. and I was how do you say it. Scared of spam and having alot to read. I also had alot of anxiety about jat calling me names i'm a very fragile emotional person. I hope gb has time because last game he was useless and now I here hes not going have much time again. Who are you worried about spamming? Seems like you are setting yourself up to not give a fuck. | ||
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I don't agree with Trfel's meta of palmar. Nothing about palmar seems townie to me. His reads are lazy or don't make sense. On February 16 2016 20:31 Palmar wrote: List of mafia: Trfel for TMI on my alignment and something I can't remember Breshke for 100% mafia Tumblewood for complaining sicklucker for complaining about useless day Tictock for sheeping other people when he knows he's best player SL Seems to be playing the "tooscummytobescum" card He wants to kill Eden because he "claimed VT" is wrong for town and easy for scum. | ||
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On February 17 2016 01:35 Palmar wrote: essentially I'm confirmed town now. Kush under this nick has 100% record of being completely fucking wrong on me, so thanks bro. why are you assuming I'm town, though? | ||
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On February 17 2016 01:46 Shapelog wrote: Kush gave a read? Half tempted to scum read him for it since last game he decided to not tell me his reads. So if I was scum and he was town last game. That would mean I am town and kush is scum...Would it not Kush? I don't follow. | ||
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On February 17 2016 02:27 Shapelog wrote: Kush what do you think about everything else other than Palmar and SL? Anything sticks out etc.? If I had an answer to this question that I thought was worth sharing, I would have shared it already. If you have something specific you want to ask me to help you figure out my alignment or because you value my opinion, feel free to ask. | ||
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On February 17 2016 02:56 Shapelog wrote: I always Value your opinion, you are my first mate after all! What do you think of the whole Eden Vs. Trofl situation? Also what is your opinion/read on Rated R-Girl? I cannot understand a single thing in her filter and I am pretty sure you have played with her before. On its surface it looks like town vs town. I haven't read into it too deeply. And I hope both players town themselves soon enough so I never have to. Rsoul - Something I remember fondly about her is that she called out Trfel on his bs metaread. She has a wait and see attitude towards scum hunting, so that might make her hard to wrap your head around. | ||
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On February 17 2016 05:29 Tictock wrote: Humm, this isn't terribly convincing. Maybe you could share the posts from the other game so we can see what's so different? Though tbh I'm not sure a slight change in posting style from one game to another means much about alignment. Shape didn't meant for it to be terribly convincing. He made that abundantly clear. So why are you misrepresenting the strength of shape's read? | ||
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On February 17 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote: That being said I do think palmar has a good track record of god reading breske. he might be a good start bitch i didn't ask you. I asked eden. | ||
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On February 17 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote: That being said I do think palmar has a good track record of god reading breske. he might be a good start On February 17 2016 07:23 sicklucker wrote: I havent took anything palmars posted seriously so thats not a good sign imo so you want to either sheep palmar or lynch him. | ||
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On February 17 2016 10:26 Tictock wrote: You have yet to whelm me btw. Actually I think I forgot to respond to something from you... How am I misrepresenting it? I'm basically agreeing that it's not very strong and asked him to provide the posts he is referring to from their last game so I could more clearly see what he is talking about. Seems like you are disagreeing with shapelog about it being convincing but shapelog didn't call it convincing | ||
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shape didn't have to know that millers were self aware to make the first post. he thought it was a possibility but not clarified in the OP. I get not townreading someone for a dumbtell, for lyching them for it is wrong. | ||
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On February 17 2016 23:16 Palmar wrote: sicklucker made an omgus, he's now 100% town to the end of the world I am going to vote Breshke instead now. Damn I have to unvote Palmar now for a sensible change of heart. Guess I'm going to put my vote on the GB plynch. | ||
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On February 18 2016 01:19 rsoultin wrote: -pokes- tbf though this actually makes me not want to lynch gb lol >< for what reason? | ||
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Reposted here: + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2016 11:29 Breshke wrote: ehh I have a problem with these two posts. the first one shows meaningful insight into why edens "setup speculation" wasn't scummy. This makes me think that he has obviously thought about what eden is saying and realised millers are self aware. then the second post he suddenly backtracks and says a bunch of words about not much. I know dumbtells almost always come from town and mafia hardly ever fake them but this isn't really a dumbtell because it isnt about the mafia roles. Like I don't get how the same person wrote these two posts. Scum lean on Shape | ||
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aww why aren't you happy? Perhaps you should deep read shining's post before you judge it. | ||
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On February 16 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote: Damm, I did not roll scum. Saddness.... So has the spawn of Satan done anything on theme with the game? On February 16 2016 08:46 Shapelog wrote: If i was scum, this statement would be true in this case. But i am no scum so no. Also I can toy with Tumbledore since i just played scum with him  Shape in one post you say you are sad you aren't scum. In the next you say you'd be burnt out if you rolled scum. Can you explain this contradictory psychology? | ||
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On February 18 2016 03:04 Shapelog wrote: Bango was his name o. YOU DON"T EVEN KNOW IF I AM SCUM! You trying to push me into a lynch, then setting Rsoul up to get killed when i flip town. Not to mention you are apparently aggressive which falls in line with your scum meta. Add that vibe that from you when i read you read on eden And... Calm Shapelog, Calm. *sign* IK this OMGUS, but at this point, you are scum. ##Vote:Trfel and why are you assuming that Rsoul is town when you've already partially scumread her paraphrasing --"i cant understand anything she says.. what do you think of her kush?" | ||
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On February 18 2016 03:25 GlowingBear wrote: Enlighten me what you meant here, kush. This doesn't make sense at all Half joking, half discounting my "scumreads" up to that point as not worth very much. | ||
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On February 18 2016 03:30 Shapelog wrote: because I read the graph wrong. the logic was, If Trofl is scum, He would step up the lynch of the person who got me most scum read. Rsoul. Again, why are you assuming Rsoul is town when earlier you hinted that she could be scum? | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:35 GlowingBear wrote: Does anyone think Kush is town? just everyone | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:37 GlowingBear wrote: Kush why were you voting me? policy | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:41 Shapelog wrote: Do I have to claim or can I wait till I post after my read list? if you readlist is coming soon, you can do readlist first | ||
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People I am the most suspicious of currently: 2) Shapelog 3)Ticktock 5) Breshke 8) The Shining 9) mdergScott31337 10) Eden1892 12GlowingBear | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:48 Shapelog wrote: or I die, and never see Endgame. Because mafia is a dick Better than us lynching you. What blue? | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:49 sicklucker wrote: acualy its fine if your not nked we can kill you tormorow. onto plummar or tumble! GB looks better than both of them. Why not GB? | ||
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I still think shape should claim, because we won't know if there is 2 or 3 prs depending on how many mafia prs there are. So if he claims that makes his claim more easily verifiable or falsifiable. | ||
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That's worst case scenario if he's scum and best case scenario if he's actually a pr. If he claims vet then we know he's lying if someone else claims vet. We know he's probably lying if there ends up being too many prs. Or we lynch him if he looks scummy enough after the reads list or another day, because his role is useless anyway. | ||
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So fine. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:03 GlowingBear wrote: Kush what kind of policy are you trying to push on me? Answer me. It's important. the one where i vote people who are unreadable. but your recent activity doesn't make me think you are town either. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:15 rsoultin wrote: well i guess since we're all talking about claims now, my read on gb was mostly just that his vote on sl was indicative of not reading and i kinda think that unless he's part of a totally afk scumteam he should already know that sl had heavily hinted at being blue though maybe that's not that strong in retrospect given how many people seemed to have piled on sl anyway pft -_- gb, where you at? i think that's way too much to assume. i had no idea SL hinting at being blue and I'm reading the game. | ||
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you make a bad assumption about me that I'm always sure about my reads. that's not true, especially d1. So your tunnely thing on me sucks. You scumread sicklcuker without even reading all of his filter. And sicklucker is a guy who always opens scummily. So yeah you haven't done anything good. | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:54 GlowingBear wrote: Well I'm voting Kush because between Kush and Palmar I sincerely prefer to see dying the guy who admits have a null read on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER and is lynching a townie for a BAD POLICY LYNCH without giving a single FUCK to the Votecount AT EOD [b]##Vote: noon[/b\ lol why is it bad policy... you came in the thread drunk and that was it at that point. that's when i wanted to policy lynch you. You came back and your reads on me and SL sucked butt so I still wanted to lynch you. I don't have a null on every single player but I wasn't ready to give full reads yet. Plus I did eventually give you a bunch of scumleans. I don't like all the stress of EoD plus I was doing some work. | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:12 sicklucker wrote: noon why didnt you vote to save palmar? im not buying you missed the deadline.. I wanna be your bro but.. i missed the deadline for real. I left at about 3:35ish to do a core location. I came back at exactly 4pm. That's just how long it took. | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:24 Trfel wrote: Mafia didn't care so much about the lynch, but secretly, they probably wanted Palmar lynched, because he's a player they'd probably have to night kill in the near-ish future. People respect Palmar way too much.. GB can I help you with anything? | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:25 GlowingBear wrote: 0% chance? He almost got lynched, SL. What are you talking about? dude you were the only one on me | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:34 GlowingBear wrote: You actually can't, Kush. You've voted me for a policy lynch that doesn't make sense IMO ("I'm killing GB because GB is unreadable") and you could say that because of my early inactivity, but when I came back you decided you should lynch me anyways because my reason to scum read SL was bullshit (you failed to explain why that was bullshit). You don't think that what you're doing is suspicious? Not giving a single read at all and deciding to vote people using the excuse of a policy lynch, then when asked about people you think could be Mafia you bring a list of people you're suspicious but can't say why they are suspicious? You really can't see why I think you're mafia? Ask around. I commonly refuse to give reads on d1. I townread Palmar earlier. I hedged that read by saying I sucked at reading him, but I did townread him. What didn't make sense about my policy lynch? You had made liek 2 drunk posts that were unreadable. You came back and I thought your SL read was bullshit, because as I've said THREE times, you hadn't even read all his filter. And SL always has a scummy early game. I thought SL looked townier as the day went on, which you ignored. So that read rung false to me. | ||
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On February 18 2016 03:28 nooniansoong wrote: Half joking, half discounting my "scumreads" up to that point as not worth very much. you are missing this quote which should assuage any uneasiness about the scumread/notscumread of palmar. | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:46 Shapelog wrote: Well *folds legs* I thought liek you did post some reads and i was all like "You lieing bastard!" So i filter dive you and I didn't find anything so i was like "Well i was just wrong" But Thennnnnnnn I remember GB saying how putting Palmar name and read made no sense. And Gb prob. thought it was a read and you statement was a joke. Soooooooooo, it would make some sense for Gb to be mad. then you sus. list atm prob. came off as a read.  So you're townreading GB? | ||
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what "reasonable angles" did he push? | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:49 GlowingBear wrote: I actually remember you commenting stuff in those two games. Especially the newbie one, you were very contributive.. You were more insightful. And you aren't here. Because you are not commenting stuff. I rarely saw you counterargumenting anything in the thread. Why would you hold your reads, Kush? About SL, can you point out what made you think he was town? Because I can't understand, especially when you just said earlier everyone was null I have made several comments and counterargued. For instance, I did not like breshke's argument against shape. Later I pushed Shape myself. Have you read my filter? The newbie was a different type of game. When town needs someone to drive discussion I will do that. But this town doesn't need that. | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:49 nooniansoong wrote: you are, you bastard. what "reasonable angles" did he push? | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:57 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't read tour filter. I've read most of the game and from that and from the interactions we had it felt like you're mafia. Anyway I gotta go now but I will dive you later. you didn't even read all of my short filter yet you are screaming for me to get CFD lynched. That's ridic. | ||
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What does it mean to you? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 18 2016 09:37 Tumblewood wrote: Tried to make sense of the game on paper. Only got to half of everyone so far. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3SdC2Tb.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zftBrQp.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pTsavXo.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/R1uxWyo.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2c7QP5q.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kfir4s5.jpg) | ||
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On February 18 2016 10:30 Trfel wrote: Nooniansoong, you said that you were okay with lynching Palmar despite thinking that he is town. Please explain why you were okay with this? I wasn't okay with it exactly. I said I thought he was town, I gave a reason, and I voted for someone else. Now, I wasn't actively campaigning against his lynch, this is true. That's because of these 4 reasons. 1 my read on him was not super solid. 2 I have a terrible of track record of reading him. 3 my terrible track record was lorded over me in the thread on multiple occasions by scott and palmar himself, and I didn't want to look like an idiot by being vocally wrong about him again. So yes I had a townread on him but I kept it kinda quiet. 4 I do not like Palmar. That's mean but it's honest. So him not being in the game makes it more fun for me. | ||
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ticktock GB scott breshke rsoul | ||
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On February 18 2016 11:50 The Shining wrote: Hmmm. Hypothetical. You have a gun. Who do you shoot? Probably Scott. I'm a believer in shooting inactive people. | ||
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I actually town read Scott at the time for a dumb reason. Now my read is somewhere between scummy, dunno, and town. So I change my imaginary shot to gb. | ||
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Furthermore, that quote that breshke brought up: actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_- I think it's clear that tumble thought that the disappearing afterwards was what made shining scummy, not the encouraging a claim part.Then breshke calls it contradictory because tumble also enouraged a claim. But it's not contradictory because the scumread wasn't based on merely encouraging the claim. | ||
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Anyway, I really did want to townread GB because I like him. But he put all that effort into MSPaints, and none into developing his reads. He is scumreading me without even reading the entirety of my small filter. You'd think actually reading my content would be a priority for him if he's going to scumread me. | ||
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I know I pressured you into claiming, baby, but let's forget that unpleasantness now. | ||
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On February 19 2016 00:10 sicklucker wrote: btw i must say breske is doing an excellent job at trying to draw a nk you're saying he's acting super townie? | ||
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On February 19 2016 00:41 Trfel wrote: Wait, I misread. Change question to, why were you townreading scott31337? I don't see this, given that he was in your list of "most suspicious people". I had the ever slightest townlean for a bad reason which I am embarassed to share. If I was in the thread before EoD, I would have voted scott to save Palmar I think. At the time I left the thread to go do work, it wasn't a clear scott vs palmar decision. | ||
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@trfel lol maybe that's why you should explain your townreads unless the person is up for lynch. | ||
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First they get rid of the dollar menu. Then they raise the price Mcdoubles. Now they get rid of McPick 2! I'm so mad. | ||
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On February 19 2016 03:02 Shapelog wrote: Kush, What does this have to do with ANYTHING relating to the game. Even though I have been king at it. I'm providing evidence for my irl excuse for me not doing anything. | ||
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On February 19 2016 03:10 Shapelog wrote: You do realize that was a joke right..... You do realize my thing was also a joke right... | ||
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On February 17 2016 08:40 Breshke wrote: Too be totally honest I don't really have strong scum feelings about anything and im really struggling because of it. The trefel/eden "fight" really seems like it comes from two towns to me. I agree with eden and i think I understand what trefels argument actually is but don't think it was right since there wasnt really much going on in the thread for eden to be disjointed from but that is my opinion. I said it was a town on town fight because I feel like either one of them as scum could take it to that next level and start shitting up the thread which would push the other player (who would be town in this scenario) to do this as well. I also think Ticktock is town just of how happy/relaxed he seems but I have no idea of his scum meta so this could be totally wrong but im fine with it for today. I would lynch SL just because i can never read him and I don't think with the way he is playing this game I ever will be able to. Taking back my breshke scumread for this post. It's townie How He admits he doesn't have sttrong scum feelings. And his take on trfel 's Eden is quite considered. | ||
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Ticktock GB (Rsoul) (Scott) (SL) (Tumble) | ||
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Or maybe he just jokingly claimed blue. @also shape, why aren't you pretending to possibly be vet | ||
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On February 19 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: Wow I am regretting my Palmar vote more and more by the hour. The reason I voted was because there were three wagons sitting at two votes (Scott, Shining, and... GB, I think) and I thought they all sucked. They were all effectively p-lynches on people who hadn't been active, and those hit town more often than not. So why are you regretting it then if you think they were all town? | ||
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On February 17 2016 10:49 Tictock wrote: Ok caught up. I was thinking on the bus back from tutoring that Tumble and GB might actually be town. For GB it's really only based on his recent town meta of being pretty disconnected and inactive (See his filters in Pick Your Power and Haunted Mansion, do note that in HM he was far more active D1 than any of the following days). Compared to his last scum game Outlaw where he put much more effort into being active to support his team and be disruptive. I wouldn't give him a pass for this, but I think I'm leaning town on GB for now. I'd still like to see him actually post something relevant to the game though. So apparently ticktock is leaning town on GB for inactivity. And later TT wants to possibly plynch GB for lack of activity On February 17 2016 18:25 Tictock wrote: I don't know what to do about GB. On the one hand I think he could actually be town, but on the other I'm very unimpressed with what he has posted thus far. Policy lynch is an option. + Show Spoiler + Just to be clear I'm suggesting this because GB is clearly not making an effort to make himself readable this game, and if he is town I doubt he is going to be terribly helpful anyways So I think this all leaves me wanting to lynch SL, and possibly policy lynch GB. ##Vote: Sicklucker . So TT, help me understand what is happening here. Essentially you want to lynch GB for exactly what makes you townlean him. | ||
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On February 19 2016 05:38 Tumblewood wrote: Low percent of scum > flip town + scumreads through the roof So if you were to go back in time and do it again, what would you have done differently? | ||
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On February 19 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: Knowing what I know now? Of course, why would I ever vote someone I know is town? Reread my question. WHAT would you have done differently. | ||
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shape tell us. | ||
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the vig is now useless. scum already know the other blue so it doesn't help them poe blues. it gives us a free town. | ||
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On February 19 2016 06:02 Trfel wrote: Not wo4ied about death because of mafia koll Mr I happy why are you happy if you die? why does being happy prevent you from posting a read list to help town? | ||
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On February 19 2016 06:40 Breshke wrote: But what else can he do there? He was not pushing anyone because shape was no longer a valid option. What other option as mafia does he have there but to carelessly join one of the leading wagons. Also not to sound like a dick but I don't think you should let one games worth of meta affect you that much. Could you explain the bolded I know you've mentioned you think his general play has been townie but why? what else can he do as town? the same exact thing. | ||
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On February 19 2016 06:56 The Shining wrote: You believe that? He said it after he was reprimanded for insta claiming. It read to me like he was doing that to backtrack and claim later on in the day like he was told to. What is your most recent scum game? | ||
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but then it wouldn't even make sense for gb to claim that. so im confused. | ||
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On February 19 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote: Maybe you're mafia after all, the real vigi possibly realised what I tried to do So you fake claimed really? | ||
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On February 19 2016 08:58 GlowingBear wrote: You want to lynch me for every wrong reason since day1 kush Activity was never a tell from me, I don't understand why you're pulling this excuse to try and lynch me I don't mean town yourself with excessive activity. I mean town yourself with townie looking activity. | ||
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On February 19 2016 10:21 Tictock wrote: Today has been a shitty day. Spent 2 hours of my afternoon with my shoulder out and basically totally unable to move my right arm. I've had this issue before but normal it's taken like half an hour for me to work it back into place, this was an intense to 2 hours. Still re-cooperating and trying to catchup, but looks like we have a vig who shot SL? The vig is TheShining. He shot Eden. Shape claimed detective. He said no one visited Eden, meaning shape must have been roleblocked? I think that's how it went down. | ||
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I did say that shit discounting my reads but then I gave more solid reads. Why are you ignoring those? | ||
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Disappearing after was what made him scummy. Not wanting him to claim. So it wasn't exactly hypo critical | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote: you! i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper I always used to use the Wikipedia then cite the sources Wikipedia cited. Pro plagiarism tips. | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote: you! i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper Dude you are just repeating your accusation again without providing evidence which was what he asked for. So show exactly what he stole from you. Ps I think you're probs scum but just ignore that for now please. | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:24 rsoultin wrote: i'm confused because you're quoting me there and attributing it to...bresh? tumble? who? or are you just saying i'm awesomesauce, cause that's like totally true ^^ O yeah I guess I thought bresh said that lol.nevertheless it's a bad reason to scumread him | ||
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But I agree ignoring the blue shit is probably the best course. My take aways from the whole eon affair: Shining is confirmed town, shape probably town, and gbs shenanigans nai | ||
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On February 19 2016 06:01 nooniansoong wrote: well played SL I said this directly after EoN. How did i know that SL was the one that was NKed and not viged? I must be scum, right? The answer is that I didn't realize right away that one was viged. I was thinking they both got NKed. | ||
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On February 19 2016 22:04 Breshke wrote: wouldn't you say well played to SL even if he was vig'd? ##Vote:Scott I assume if he is town he is busy or some shit and ive been saying i felt how the lynch went down made him seem town but im just really underwhelmed right now Also rsoul is giving me the heebie jeebies but i cant put my finger on why No. The reason I said well played is I thought he drew the nk with his fake softclaim. | ||
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On February 19 2016 22:13 Breshke wrote: ahh i see I feel like it is scummier that you pointed this out yourself than if someone had stumbled upon it because it doesnt really seem that scummy you just seem paranoid. But that read makes me feel really dumb. What do you think about rsoul saying to lynch scott for information when we only get information if he flips scum and if he flips town we get legit nothing. (I know you weren't pushing the information aspect hard rsoul so remain calm) I don't expect rsoul to be pushing a scum agenda under the disguise of an information lynch. I think scum are more likely to push their lynches under what they claim are genuine scumreads. I want to close read rsouls latest stuff to form an opinion on her I can be confident about though. But right now I'm in complete agreement with trfel in scumreads. TT has looked better recently, although I can't point to specific reasons why without filter diving him. As to your point about it being scummier that I pointed it out--dunno what to say about it. When I thought back on EoN I remembered saying that and thought it could look really scummy. I wanted to be honest and open so I shared it. | ||
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3)Ticktock -maybe, probably not 4) Tumblewood - maybe, probably not 5) Breshke -maybe, probably not 9) mdergScott31337 12GlowingBear not happy about this list. It's very lynchbaity. If the scumteam was scott/gb/tumble, I doubt tumble would go through the effort of those written down reads. I'm thinking I have to look at breshke closer. I townread him for a reason that i dont remember now though. | ||
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And what effect does that have on his alignment? | ||
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Leads me to believe we are dealing with a scott/GB/x shitteam | ||
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On February 20 2016 04:12 Tictock wrote: Can you elaborate on this part Shining? Kus Shape had already claimed, and it was pretty obv that one of the shots was a Vig. So wouldn't scum already have all the info they need? I agree his fakeclaim was pretty bad but I really don't see any gain for scum to make that play. Town makes pretty stupid fake claims sometimes, like Damdred fake CC'd my claim as GS in Outlaw kus he was convinced I was lying and was scum (I was in fact the GS). Onegu also fake claimed in that game as scum, keep in mind. So Ticktock, you are DEFENDING GB here, right? I just want you to make what you are doing right now to be crystal clear. | ||
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On February 20 2016 04:20 Shapelog wrote: I honestly feel like GB > over Scott right now. But I want a read list and content from them Soooooo :/ I'll laugh if neither of them are scum. (that is a lie, I curse myself.) I'd be happy because this game would become interesting. | ||
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On February 20 2016 04:28 Tictock wrote: I'm disagreeing with Shining that there was anything for scum!GB to gain from that move. Doesn't really mean anything about my read on GB. WHICH IS WHAT | ||
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changelog: now in all caps because shit just got serious. TICKTOCK GB SCOTT | ||
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On February 20 2016 04:41 The Shining wrote: If we lynch both and neither are scum, this game isn't interesting. It's over. Like honestly the only way Scott and GB team makes sense is if their teammate is heavily TRd and thinks they can solo carry. Which isn't impossible but pretty risky. And it's horrible unflipped association. Scott really gives no shits about surviving tbh. If he gets flipped scum, I'm sure at least one of his teammates are pushing him hard scott/gb/tt why is that impossible? | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:00 The Shining wrote: It's not, it's just improbable and a little too easy for my liking. why is it improbable? id look through your filter but it's kind of dense. | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:22 rsoultin wrote: hmmm tt idk but gb and scott yup ^^ like there's a chance gb isn't scum here but it's pretty small and getting smaller and nope not gonna explain, ha! i promise i might actually possibly really read filters tonight maybe >> noooooon i started yours and you has pages o.0 why do i not remember you being that involved? dont meta me bro. you played like 1 game with me. | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:35 rsoultin wrote: i'm a guuuuurl!!! i promise >> ignore any rumors started by the lex >> HE DOESN'T KNOW (lol >< more seriously, noon, i'm not "meta-ing" you, but i have been pretty impressed with your play lately and yes i've hosted games you were in -flicks- maybe i'll see that shiny when i read your filter, but this is a far cry from super!town noon) 1. girls can be bros, you want me to call you sista? that's just weird. 2. i thought you were metaing me, saying that as town i'm not that invovled, therefore my involvement is looking scummy. So I misinterpreted you there.2 3. I suspect you haven't seen me as that involved because you usually start talking late at night, and I usually go to bed 10:30ish eastern. Whenever I wake up I see all these posts from you, trfel, shining and I'm like damn I wish I could have been there for that party. All I have for interactions is shittyass shapelog at lunch time. | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:31 The Shining wrote: Ez reason: shit team. Scott afk voted GB d1. It throws a spike in them being scum together. Not impossible, just a big question mark. I also need to re-read TT. Then there's also my hatred of association reads with no scum flips. Thought out reason: This day phase feels painfully slow. General consensus is that Scott or GB is scum. But no one is pushing that envelope super hard, or talking about other things on the chance that one or both are town. The lack of discussion and lines of questioning being pursued feels like scum is perfectly fine with how this day is progressing. That only happens if one or both are town, OR the 3rd teammate is hard towned. Today is my last real lockdown day at work and no class tomorrow so I should be able to reevaluate and throw out thoughts between tonight and eod. ezreason - ok I guess, but I think Scott could easily afk vote on his scumbud. thought out reason - Your ezreason was better. Of course the day is goign to be slow if 2 scum are afk scott/gb. Scum isn't perfectly fine, they just aren't active. | ||
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On February 20 2016 07:15 Tictock wrote: So did I not actually post stuff about Tumble? Was it all just a dream? Kus it's weird to me that Trfel sorta agreed with me but brushed it off and nobody else seems to care. the problem with your case is that you didn't quote the part where tumble said he palmar was a bad lynch. ill try to find it. | ||
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Here's where he said palmar was a bad lynch: On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote: No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote. The 'Do Not Lynch' List Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively. Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game. Tictock, for making clear and useful points. The 'Bad Lynch' List Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner. Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart. Kush, but I don't know why. Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse. The 'Wait And See' List GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late. That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread." Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow. I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote. Essentially that list is saying he doesn't want to lynch anyone but SL and Shining. Neither of those lynches were on the table, so it makes sense for Palmar's lynch to become more viable in his mind. It made sense to me that he thought scott was so inactive that palmar's slightly more active lurking was more scummy. | ||
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On February 20 2016 08:52 nooniansoong wrote: tt -- complains that no one listens to his tumble case, then ignore me when i try to engage him about it inb4 tumble complains about my complaint. sorry i just want instant gratification. | ||
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On February 20 2016 09:31 Tictock wrote: I never claimed Tumble had a townread on Palmar. "Do not Lynch" speaks for itself, so why did Palmar become lynchable in Tumble's mind? After Shape claimed blue, what happened to his read on SL? Scott was down as a "wait and see" and hadn't done anything else since that post. So why would he say this, when multiple (GB and Scott) of his "wait and see" people where also viable lynch's? + Show Spoiler + On February 19 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: Wow I am regretting my Palmar vote more and more by the hour. The reason I voted was because there were three wagons sitting at two votes (Scott, Shining, and... GB, I think) and I thought they all sucked. They were all effectively p-lynches on people who hadn't been active, and those hit town more often than not. He did sorta explain with this, but I don't buy it. I mean wasn't Palmar essentially being Plynched there as well? I also thought his read and vote onto Shape was weird and kinda opportunistic. Also yea, suggesting that me not responding right away is me ignoring you is an attack on my character, which is kinda scummy. It was an attack on your attack on your character. That's why I took it back kind of. I haven't looked into his Shape read. But I think he is consistent in that he wanted to wait and see in regards to GB and Scott. Palmar was not a "Do Not Lynch." He was a "Bad Lynch." And I think you are reading too much into the list title "Bad Lynch" | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:08 Shapelog wrote: I am going to laugh if this post is what I think it is.... Now there are 2 shes, and eden is dead. I thought of this post last night. Could Drunk(or sober, considering how the vote was spelled perfectly) GB posted something that linked Rsoul to GB? A course I can not remmber if Rsoul had shining as a scum read, but shining was afk so it would sorta make sense with this theory. Idk, this is not the time to go into bad associate reads without GB lynch. But worth noting for if GB flips mafia. He's talking about irl lol.. | ||
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There are plenty of reasons to scumread you. One of the strongest being poe which you can't really refute. I suggest you form some scum reads that aren't based on omgus. | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:27 GlowingBear wrote: Kush who are you lynching today? You or scott | ||
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Mad because people are voting you? Looks like fake anger to me. | ||
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He knows he's not the vig as town. | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:59 rsoultin wrote: i don't give a flying fuck what you think, noon when you actually get scumread for just being you every single game, you can have an opinion ^^ if you can't figure out where this is coming from, all i have to say is drams I do lol. Day 1 of every game people want to lynch me. | ||
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On February 21 2016 03:07 Shapelog wrote: Oh yeah Kush, lynching her is DIFFIDENTLY going to teach her a lesson in a good way *faceplam*. Why don't You also Light up the unlighted part of a house on fire to teach the fire a "lesson" lol. K let's never lynch her so she doesn't leave us. when can we suspec her? Only when she's scum? Ok rsoul please scumclaim whenever you roll scum so we can know it's okay to suspect you. I mean i don't think she's scum so whatwver. This is a post game conversation. | ||
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On February 21 2016 03:19 Shapelog wrote: You do realize i did not say to not lynch her. Or never lynch her. I was making a joke/#Pleasedonotmakethisendintears post. Funny enough,#Pleasedonotmakethisendintears, is what i told my 2nd girlfriend who then went to cheat on me. Which who cares, i got a better one now but still funny. Rsoul is going to cheat on us with mafiascum.net | ||
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On February 21 2016 06:07 Tumblewood wrote: Pls, you could say that even if he were town i would have said "oh well but still a good lynch" | ||
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On February 21 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote: So Scum!GB threw his vote off the main 2 wagons of D1. I.E Palmar and Scott. Does this mean anything in terms of scott's alignment? I think it makes scott look scummy. GB didn't want his vote to suspiciously save his scumbuddy but he didn't want to contribute to his scumbuddy's death either. | ||
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On February 21 2016 06:11 nooniansoong wrote: I think it makes scott look scummy. GB didn't want his vote to suspiciously save his scumbuddy but he didn't want to contribute to his scumbuddy's death either. translation: i think scott is scummy so i'm going to come up with an explanation to fit that narrative | ||
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On February 21 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote: This would actually strongly indicate that Scott is town. GB was active at deadline, but didn't have any care as to who got lynched between Scott and Palmar. GB may have been trolling this whole game but I still think he'd try to save his teammate. I don't think so. Scum are hypersensitive to how they look in vca. | ||
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On February 21 2016 06:22 Shapelog wrote: That is what i though too, But i was not sure. Anyways, Color code of Final D1 Vote: + Show Spoiler + On February 18 2016 05:59 disformation wrote: Vote Count - Day 1 Palmar (4): scott31337 (4): GlowingBear(2): Breshke(1): Palmar Tumblewood (1): The Shining, nooniansoong (1): GlowinBear Trfel (0): Eden1892 (0): Sicklucker(0): The Shining (0): Shapelog (0): So some key points I want to show. We have 3 non colors on Scott Scott voted on scum D1 instead of voting Palmar to try and save himself. Which makes little sense from Scum! Mafia felt fine throwing away a vote. Somehow I starting to think scott might not be mafia. I mean Does it make sense for Scum!GB to allow his team mate Scott to be lynched. Especially when he could cover his vote with "OMG I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO VOTE PALMAR BLAHHHH." Scott probably wasn't around near EoD. | ||
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On February 21 2016 06:31 Shapelog wrote: Bus on d1 is the only thing that makes sense than. Scum resorted to that when the Palmar lynch lost some traction? Especially considering the only thing that would make sense is a GB/Scott/Tumble Team. But they would not predicted SL move to unvote. So idk Who was voting scott, but not actually push scott? did anyone did that? gb/scott/tt team tt voted palmar. scott had to vote gb today or it would have looked terrible for him. Inactive scum players need something to give them towncred so often they choose to bus. | ||
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On February 21 2016 22:45 Breshke wrote: Kush is this game as easy as it seems Yes. Except some town is convinced that Scott is town because he afk bussed gb. Then the last scum is probably TT but he's been playing a pretty decent scum game. | ||
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On February 21 2016 23:38 Breshke wrote: People should also look at the reason why GB didn't want to vote scott as well. At the time I didn't even think this response was scummy and i still don't I do think it is scummy however is that GB hardly mentioned scott D2. This was the only post where he did mention a read on him IDK feels like GB didnt want to push his teammate? But im not sure why he would care about bussing there so i think im just seeing what I want to see Yeah his words don't match his actions. According to his words he should be fine pushing Scott except he never really did. | ||
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On February 22 2016 04:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Why are you misrepping Rsoul so hard? Rsoul didn't stop scumreading GB. She just thought scott was a better lynch for a while. And I don't think the MSPaint pictures had anything to do with it. Let's look at the tongue in cheek quote where she explains that she's voting for information: Voting for information is kind of an old fashioned but well known tell. She clearly knows about the tell. So since she knows it is a scumtell, and she chooses to do it anyway, it ceases to be a scumtell. | ||
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On February 22 2016 07:32 Tictock wrote: Actually It would be nice if everyone who is scumreading scott can give me a breif explanation why. Process of elimination. Complete lack of content. Not a single scumread. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498066-haunted-mansion-mini-mafia?user=scott31337 Very low activity. His one vote was an afkbus: On December 02 2015 09:52 scott31337 wrote: Sheeping confirmed town. ##Vote: ANickelDrink | ||
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On February 22 2016 09:55 Tictock wrote: It's the big one yea. I suppose there is a possibility that Scott/TT are the last 2 mafia and GB stayed off the main wagons D1 kus he knew TT was going to vote Palmar, but it seems like a risky play. ftfy | ||
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Just skimmed.everything. Trfel fuck you for bringing thAt game up. You didn't reach out to help me townread you. And shape fooled you as well. Also I wonder how long before you all decide to sheep me. You might have to mislynch tumble first d4. | ||
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On February 22 2016 14:50 Tictock wrote: Well Bre's post was pretty bad tbh. Like I'm at The Shining - + Show Spoiler + Confirmed Town + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil:Impossible, yet still fun Breshke - + Show Spoiler + Feels like the Breshke that I remember. Sometimes awkward but pushes for info and talks things out with people in a logical way. I haven't seen a scum game from him recently, but I know he feels awkward in a QT with extra info. Up till that last post I don't see any signs of agenda in his posts. + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Possible Trfel - + Show Spoiler + Reads seem fluid, sometimes terrible, but genuine. Over-focus on meta is questionable but probably NAI. My own terrible meta on Trfel: He's pretty fluid and informal in interactions, as scum I've seen him do very pristine WoT style posts. + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Nothing Happens... Rsoultin - + Show Spoiler + Pretty open in opinion if sometimes confusing. Seems to have genuine reads and progression in them. Tbh kinda trusting my other townreads on her, I'm not sure what her scum style is. + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Possible, though a little painful. Scott31337 - + Show Spoiler + D1 VCA, he's posted little but seems to be giving his thoughts. Voted GB before it was cool. + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Yea... maybe he is scum nooniansoong - + Show Spoiler + If this comes as a suprise you haven't actually been reading my posts. There has been a lot of little things that feel off to me about Kush and tbh I think he's in the prime spot to be riding credit from the GB lynch. + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Oh we are already wearing this one, I've been tinfoiling about this read since Kush was wanting to push me based on pre-flip associations with GB I will admit, if kush is scum he's playing great. He's engaged and actively pushing his reads just like a towny should. I'd imagine that a step up in his town-play lately would also mean a step-up in scum play though. Maybe not to this level? Maybe if scott flips red I'd believe Kush is town... maybe Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler + Blah, kinda did a thing + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Waste of effort And I've been pretty clear about my scott read. It's also not impossible that one of us might be considering Bre or Trfel so it was kinda weird to assume that your PoE is everyone's PoE. Very strong scumread on me. Due to little things you can't even think to mention. Then you have a paragraph about how im probably town... | ||
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Scott31337 - D1 VCA, he's posted little but seems to be giving his thoughts. Voted GB before it was cool. nooniansoong - + Show Spoiler + If this comes as a suprise you haven't actually been reading my posts. There has been a lot of little things that feel off to me about Kush and tbh I think he's in the prime spot to be riding credit from the GB lynch. + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Oh we are already wearing this one, I've been tinfoiling about this read since Kush was wanting to push me based on pre-flip associations with GB I will admit, if kush is scum he's playing great. He's engaged and actively pushing his reads just like a towny should. I'd imagine that a step up in his town-play lately would also mean a step-up in scum play though. Maybe not to this level? Maybe if scott flips red I'd believe Kush is town... maybe Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler + Blah, kinda did a thing + Show Spoiler + Tinfoil: Waste of effort [QUOTE] So scott is town because he voted GB before it was cool, but I ALSO voted GB very early on d1, went to shape for about half an hour, then went back to GB. So if it's enough to townread scott for why not me? | ||
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On February 23 2016 02:48 Tictock wrote: Honestly I forgot you voted GB first D1 Kush, I was gunna make a mode dedicated post about you but stuff happened. There should be some evidence of the stuff I'm talking about in my filter, but mostly I've been tinfoiling about you and GB going at it like you did D1 to try and distance yourselves. I also thought you were jumping the gun with the pre-flip associations and now I wonder if it was you trying to setup mislynches after GB flipped. You are right thouh, the vote on GB D1 doesn't mean much and is not the basis for either my read on you or scott. What is the basis of your scumread on Scott exactly? Becuse you just listed it as your basis. And What is the basis of your read on me? | ||
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On February 23 2016 04:01 Tictock wrote: I've been really clear that. I don't think scott is scum and why. Maybe I'm wrong and he flips mafia today and then you all lynch me kus i stood up for my read on, totally fine with that outcome since we can still afford one mislynch. You're gunna have to wait for me to be off work to discuss my read on you, I've said about all. I can without looking through your filter again. ok then you can surrender after we lynch scott tomorrow. | ||
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On February 24 2016 02:16 Trfel wrote: I read some stuff last night. Paraphrased, but I felt that Tictock's read on GlowingBear was suspect. Day 1, he provided this case to townread GlowingBear based on GlowingBear's last few scum and town games, but then he discounted this read because his read on GlowingBear is bad and because he wasn't sure. Then on Day 2, he continually pushed Tumblewood and kept insisting that Tumblewood is mafia, but ended up voting for GlowingBear who he wasn't really sure about instead of Tumblewood. totes | ||
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On February 24 2016 06:28 Tictock wrote: Well... I hate to say I told you so but... This blows, now we are in MyLo right? If i have time tonight I'll try to be around and relook at stuff. Right now Kush/Tumble are still my 2 scumreads, I'm actually really fucking sure about Kush now kus he's been touting this GB/Scott/Me scumteam even before GB flipped. Seems to me like he bussed GB for cred and is hoping to use that to finish off the game. Kinda interesting Tumble didn't vote there though, maybe he didn't want to look bad when scott flipped but didn't have anything else to push? Let's try to understand each other. I'm actually really fucking sure about Kush now kus he's been touting this GB/Scott/Me scumteam even before GB flipped. Seems to me like he bussed GB for cred and is hoping to use that to finish off the game. Yes I have been pushing these specific scumteam. Why does believing something that's wrong make me scum? | ||
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-absent d2. afk voted scott. He didn't engage anyone on lynching gb. -no posts that show he is thinking about the game there's this case on tumble but i find it superficial On February 18 2016 15:06 Breshke wrote: I think the bolded is a bit messed up? I agree with the essence of this post that the way EoD went down makes me feel that scott is probably town but thats also because I have a hankering that SL is scum but won't be discussing that until tomorrow I also still really have a problem with these posts. SO the first quote he scums trefel for settling on a lynch claiming there are other valid options yet he isnt voting or pushing anyone at the time. Then the next two quotes make no sense together as there is no explanation in between the two to explain why palmar suddenly became the better lynch. He basically did what he accused trefel of doing but in my opinion in a far scummier way. ALSO there is this He says that shining getting shape to claim is pro mafia because it gives them information WHEN HE ASKED HIM TO CLAIM ASWELL. | ||
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On February 24 2016 09:21 Breshke wrote: or is it just that you think I am most likely scum This | ||
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On February 24 2016 22:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: TT I was scumreading you because of associations + POE. You didn't want to lynch scott, and I was super sure scott was scum. I know that's terrible because scott hadn't even flipped but yeah. About that flip: I'm not sure exactly why I townread you for a little bit there. I was getting town feels from some of your posts around that time. Then sometime later I looked at all your posts and decided there wasn't enough there to town you unlike everyone else in my PoE and I started scumming you again. About my vig suggestion: I was on the fence. I thought they were both good shots. I changed my mind and decided that I'd shoot GB because I was scumreading him more at the moment I think? My dumb reason for townreading scott back then was this: the last part, "which is true" It's hard to explain why I thought this was townie, which is why I said it was dumb. He was needling me in a laid back comfortable way maybe? | ||
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On February 25 2016 07:56 Trfel wrote: I mean, if you have any thoughts and/or preferences I'm very interested? but you think the two mafia are breshke and tt right? | ||
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Feels like the Breshke that I remember. Sometimes awkward but pushes for info and talks things out with people in a logical way. I haven't seen a scum game from him recently, but I know he feels awkward in a QT with extra info. Up till that last post I don't see any signs of agenda in his posts. can we get some specific examples of him being logical? He had that bad looking post. You haven't seen a scum game from him recently, so you don't know his meta well. He has really low activity. Your townread of him isn't jiving. | ||
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And what is scummy about pushing him to claim when he's going to get lynched? Its better to have an outted blue than a lynched blue. | ||
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On February 25 2016 16:28 Tictock wrote: You are probably scum since you don't seem to be trying to figuer out anyone's alignments today... But since you're the only one who reacted to my tarot I'll discuss it. I was looking for reactions, either to how I was claiming to be using the cards to base my reads today or to the fact that I was kinda suddenly swapping my read on you with that. There was still one thing I wanted to see if anyone picked up on or more precisely reacted to the way I thought Town should... I'm actually really surprised nobody has, and I think Bre is the only one who hasn't posted since I dropped that post. What's that? I skimmed the post and moved on. It seemed like a joke. | ||
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On February 25 2016 13:41 rsoultin wrote: lol >< i cant decide whether i should lynch tt for trolling in mylo or give him town-points for going after someone who is never going to be lynched today (prob ever)...though "going after" is a bit of an overstatement in this case no town points then! + Show Spoiler + if he isn't trolling i have no clue what that is supposed to be o.0 bueno, noon, nh is a bit of a place-holder? like a grunt >> i do weird things and write onomatopoeias cause habit. sorry about the confusion do you not have a preference as to lynch order, noon? I'd like to lynch bresh first I think but I don't feel really strong about it. A no lynch is theoretically a good idea but I'm with you in that i don't want to drag this out,even though doing so might be pro town, | ||
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bresh said he was excited about this game in pregame. I've seen zero excitement. That's not it either. I think there's lots of reasons why bresh is scum and zero reasons why he's town. let's put down our votes on breshke now. that way scum can't gain a majority by vote changing at the last second. | ||
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On February 25 2016 13:41 rsoultin wrote: lol >< i cant decide whether i should lynch tt for trolling in mylo or give him town-points for going after someone who is never going to be lynched today (prob ever)...though "going after" is a bit of an overstatement in this case no town points then! + Show Spoiler + if he isn't trolling i have no clue what that is supposed to be o.0 bueno, noon, nh is a bit of a place-holder? like a grunt >> i do weird things and write onomatopoeias cause habit. sorry about the confusion do you not have a preference as to lynch order, noon? nnnnnhhhhhhhehhh...You bring up a point about how it looks townie that TT is pushing me, just becaue I'm an unlikely lynch. Who else is he going to push though? The obvious answer is bresh/tumble, but he's already townread bresh and scumread me earlier, so I think to keep his reads consistent he has to push kush/tumble. I would expect a town TT to think, "wait a minute. My read on breshke is not based on very strong evidence. I need to reasses it since kush is looking pretty townie and everyone else is townreading him." | ||
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On February 25 2016 23:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: then why are you basing your sorta townread of him on it.. yeah hellz no im a doing a no-lynch. i cant take 3 more days of changing my account every other second. | ||
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On February 26 2016 00:37 Tumblewood wrote: "Hmmm... seems like something a SCUM would do." But why wouldn't someone going for a mislynch say it outright? i dont understand what you are saying here. | ||
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On February 16 2016 15:32 Tictock wrote: Tumblewood nooniansoong The Shining mderg GlowingBear These are the people who need to post more. Rsoul is someone I have no idea how to read. Besides Outlaw have we played together before? I might only know her via Co-hosting. Scum game: On December 14 2015 17:10 Tictock wrote: Hopefully we hear from these guys soon 3 Rels 4 Tubesock 6 Vivax Also an update on the GB tunnel: Closed for Repairs, use alternate routes | ||
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On February 26 2016 04:05 Tictock wrote: So you think only scum can mistake a joke and take it seriously? You didn't even give him a chance to answer your question, you piled onto the wagon and your vote made Shape the leading wagon. It wasn't like Shape was a for sure lynch, and several of the votes on him (*cough*Yours*cough*) weren't really backed by anything. If he is blue it should be his choice to claim or to do what Shape was doing and try to step up a little and push his reads, etc. Telling him he nees to claim, pushing him to do it when he seems like he doesn't want to, and pushing him to claim his specific role. All of that is definitely in line with scum motives more than town motives. So yea, it's scummy that I see you add pressure to his wagon with a silly vote then pressure a claim out of him. I don't see why town would do that. I thought it was an obvious joke. That he was taking it seriously I read as scummy. Plus the fact that I was overly paranoid about him. yes, it was a bad vote. I'm beginning to think you aren't scum anymore. Help me figure this game out. | ||
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On February 26 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote: Also, why one of Trfel and rsoul? Those are the two people who are IMO least likely to be scum. That's precisely why I'm looking to them. When you can't figure a game out, it's usually because someone that no one is suspecting is mafia. | ||
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On February 26 2016 04:25 Tictock wrote: I really shouldn't. In an ongoing effort to be fair and partial though I intend to look at Bre's filter today. Also Rsouls's. Like I'm actually rethinking my read on you Kush based on your approach today, you are going about MyLo in a rather towny way. Trfel is also putting in work to try and figure out alignments. Tumble looks like obv scum the way he is doing today (but I'm still the only one who thinks so apparnetly). So I'm left wondering if my read on Rsoul was bad or if my read on Bre was off. Right now though I would say Tumble is my top lynch, after no-lynching. dunno about trfel. he made a big post about how you were scum and voted you today without even looking at other people like breshke. | ||
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On February 26 2016 04:29 Tictock wrote: Lol... Expect I don't give a shit that everyone town reads you, everyone could be wrong. Do you have strong evidence that Bre is scum? It would be better if you can tell me why you scumread him, not accuse my townread of being bad. You haven't backed-up all your townreads with meticulous detail have you? Why should I? I looked at an old scumgame of yours and you had no problem having fluid reads it seems like. Your stubborness is actually pretty townie. Fuck no I don't have strong evidence that Bre is scum. All I have is a lack of evidence that he is town. The point against shape he made in the beginning of the game that you liked--I did not really like it. So about breshke, I dunno. He is AFK in other places as well. ahem... Really, I dunno. | ||
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why did you want to lynch me over tumble today? doesn't mesh with how hard you've been pushign tumble all game long and been on the fence about me. @trfel looking at bresh should be your top priority imo. | ||
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Why make this long as post about GB when he's obviously going to be lynched anyway? Like why waste the time if his lynch is already an inevitability? + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2016 05:13 Tictock wrote: Not going to take a lot of time looking at GB's past games, I'm not a strong believer in meta but maybe it will be relieving to take a look. Ok apparently I forgot GB was in the Nutcraker game, starting with that one kus it's pretty recent and I was in that game (albeit as scum). + Show Spoiler + I'm seeing a lot of similarities in GB's play between the 2 games. One thing that jumps out is that GB made a very similar push on Kush in both games. On December 14 2015 22:58 GlowingBear wrote: I'm voting Kush because he deserves it On December 16 2015 03:49 GlowingBear wrote: But to be fair I prefer kush to die today. For the reasons of I don't want to relive Avogadro's Number mini Mafia On December 16 2015 06:48 GlowingBear wrote: Wow the vote count is horrendous Townies, if we keep the vote count this way, Madia can easy manipulate it If we are so torn apart we should vote someone who is at least a queation mark I'm driving. I suggest you all move to kush Overall I think things look pretty similar to this game, but GB did seem more interested in making reads in Nutcracker than in this game. When GB was getting lynched though he wasn't anywhere as emotional as he has been here. On December 16 2015 07:48 GlowingBear wrote: Oh I'm dying On December 16 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, I'm not Mafia. You're again doing the same mistake you did last game if you're town. And it's a shame you can't give me more time to prove myself even when I repeatedly said I would've been busy these days. He was also town in NSM XVIII which I think is his most recent town game. + Show Spoiler + This is a large filter and I wasn't in the game so I'm just skimming and then checking the end of his filter to how he reacted to being lynched. In general I notice a bit more of a carefree attitude from GB, he's giving thoughts and reads pretty freely and just seems kinda friendly when interacting with people. His reaction to being lynched in this game is markedly different than the others, biggest thing relevant to this game now... he's not very emotional even when being lynched. On January 07 2016 00:46 GlowingBear wrote: Well, lynch me today When I flip town lynch my scum reads They are Giygas/mderg/? Also remember what I said on NM before I'm getting ready to work and I'll be AFK during the entire day. I hope you guys do the right thing. If you don't, do NOT ignore my reads. On January 07 2016 00:47 GlowingBear wrote: Argh this post isn't good. Guys lynch me, I can't deal with this thing of not being able to decide if Kmatt is town or Mafia On January 07 2016 01:38 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I'm late for work, I gotta go I'm voting Giygas. I'm town. Do the right thing On January 07 2016 02:23 GlowingBear wrote: The only reason I'm not flipping out is because this is a newbie game lol Last town game I'm gunna look at is Haunted Mansion, note that he was rolled town that game even if the mechanics of the game caused him to become mafia-aligned after death. + Show Spoiler + Just for reference, I was in this game as town with town!GB and got super tunneled on him thinking he was the final member of the mafia team after we lynched mafia D2 and D3. Even after I died I left a last will that told people to lynch GB. This was some of his reactions that last day before he got mislynched and town lost the game. On December 09 2015 07:20 GlowingBear wrote: I won't repeat the reasons myself for why I'm town, if you wish to disregard my defense and lynch me GG and farewell, I don't have the patience to fight my lynch. On December 09 2015 13:21 GlowingBear wrote: Also, I'm not Mafia. Care to read what I write now that I am actually defending myself? On December 10 2015 21:45 GlowingBear wrote: I think I've brought enough points on OO and Chrome. I certainly am suspicious of Chrom especially because he is still alive at LYLO and didn't require a lynch on him before anyone else after two days of mislynches. In the other hand, I'd rather lose to mafia Chrome than lose to Mafia ObviousOne. So I'm voting him. On December 12 2015 06:53 GlowingBear wrote: I would try to survive but I'm working and I can't GG Wp scum Quite similar to the NSM game before this, again though very little emotional reaction to being lynched. And then the contrast check with a recent scum!GB game from Outlaw. + Show Spoiler + This is another game where GB has over 10pgs of filter, so I'm just focusing on the last page or two where he is getting lynched. On January 05 2016 00:26 GlowingBear wrote: I'll be reading the thread later and I'll give some inputs. On January 05 2016 06:46 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, why am I being votes? On January 05 2016 07:25 GlowingBear wrote: The only reason you guys have to vote me is my recent inactivity. Other than that, why am I scum? On January 05 2016 07:38 GlowingBear wrote: OWS could be scum There isn't any emotion but the similarities in how GB is asking why he is being scumread is rather uncanny to this game, also the first quote here is a lot like some of GB's posts D1 here. This Game: (Today in particular) First lets talk about that Fake claim I've been simmering on the back burner. + Show Spoiler [Relevant Posts] + On February 19 2016 08:05 GlowingBear wrote: I'm the vigi and I shot SL On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote: MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID On February 19 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote: ##vote: The Shining So while I will note that GB did not ACTUALLY vote for TS, this doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean that as either alignment it makes very little sense. If this is a fakeclaim from town!GB then why does he flip out and vote(fakevote?) Shining? He knows he's fakeclaiming and a CC is almost for sure going to be the real Vig, so either GB doesn't think Shining is a vig or he's flailing hard. If this is scum!GB why does he even bother to claim? Getting the real vig to claim means nothing for scum and Shape has already claimed his role. If he does claim, why backoff so fast? Like it was clear that Breshke and I were instantly more suspect of The Shining than GB so a scum!GB would have kept his claim and gone for the 1v1 right? Bah this is why I wanted to ignore this, kus it legit just doesn't make sense as either alignment. I guess I can almost believe GB was going to move to eat a bullet, especially kus if he was scum he would have known that SL was not the Vig shot. Now we have GB's more recent burst of activity and his anger over being scumread for his lackluster play. Overall I see that easily coming from either alignment, the anger does seem fake though as I think GB understands that being lynched is part of the game ans can self-evaluate his own play enough to understand why he is being scumread here. His reads list wasn't terrible though. Honestly the only problem I have with this post was that GB wasn't just freely sharing these reads, it was like he churned them out upon request. Conclusions: Fuck if I know, but GB has a pretty good chance of flipping red here, probably goon or shadow, or w/e. I only had the one scum game to look at so idk if he does bouts of fake emotion as scum, but there was a clear similarity in how GB is asking "Why am I scum" both in Outlaw and here, whereas in his town games he is more focused on his reads or is trying to convince people he is town. Maybe GB has just been playing this game with the idea of being too scummy to be scum and then decides to put in the effort for a few hours before EoD to try and wiggle the wagon off him. Seems like a pretty shit play as scum though... but I suppose it's even worse as town... Sigh, I swear GB if you are town here I will highly consider doing the unspeakable things I almost typed here. ##Vote: GlowingBear | ||
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On February 26 2016 05:01 Trfel wrote: Glad to know what you think my priorities should be My top priority right now is catching up in my classes. You know, because I've been sick and unable to go to class. I think I found one scum and have presented reasons, and I'm more than willing to discuss this read with anyone (including them). We're only allowed one lynch per day. I'll look at Breshke eventually, but on my time, not yours. i mean in terms of who you are looking at in the game. Not over real life. Don't get snippy with me. | ||
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On the one hand bresh is afk and somewhat of a wild card, on the other hand nothing in his filter looks town. He's got mechanics discussion which is nai. And his one case on shape doesn't make sense. | ||
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On February 27 2016 04:57 rsoultin wrote: pues, ojalá tt is scum and town is just being lazy today @.@ IM NOT BEING LAZY IM BUSY. STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. -me pretending to be trfel | ||
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On February 27 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote: This is the least active EoD I've ever seen Well breshke is afk | ||
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On February 27 2016 23:26 rsoultin wrote: @.@ tumble: least active EoD (complaint) <- wasn't here noon: breshke afk (excuse) <- also wasn't here -twitches- at least truffle was open about having to leave -throws shoes at everyone- nooooon ^ whatever happened to this? Half didn't have time, half decided it wasn't necessary. | ||
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On February 28 2016 02:07 rsoultin wrote: ye lol i'm doing papers and reading for class next week ^^ and yes i do have thoughts on you but i'm prioritizing so pfffft but since you so kindly asked, talk to me about tictock...you've been contradictory about whether you actually thought he could be town or were just toying with him What happened was I got paranoid for a second then I was like nahhh but I decided to not say anythibg | ||
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