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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 07:35 GMT
#320
On February 03 2016 10:59 Vivax wrote:
Also I have a little surprise for you people.

IT LIVES!

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HI FRANDS!
I came to rescue you all. <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 07:56 GMT
#321
So i only have to figure out which people out of Koshi/Onegu/DYH are not town and DYH doesn't really look scummy. Should not be too hard i guess.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 08:37 GMT
#323
Maybe. But i actually take back what i said about DYH. I don't know if he is town or not.

Koshi do you have any explanation for this post:
On February 01 2016 06:34 Koshi wrote:
Are there actually wincons in this game?

?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 08:49 GMT
#324
In case i forget, when the next item spawns one of me/Vivax/GB needs to take it, and noone else.
If the item is (sounds) really pro-town we let GB take it, if not, let's think about it then.
The point however is if anyone else takes the item without discussion we lynch them.

Feel free to disagree -- with an explanation how any of us three can possibly be mafia.
Thanks.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 08:51 GMT
#325
And if someone wants to claim killing Ace that would be nice too. I don't really think any of the dead people did it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 10:17 GMT
#331
That's very weird shit Koshi.
Especially since the hosts have literally confirmed before the game start that everything they say is true, here:
On January 29 2016 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[...]
Yeah, I'm not taking that definition. Alignment changing mechanics may occur. What I mean with not a bastard game is that you can be certain that everything my cohost or I say actually is true.


So tell me, do you somehow confuse green with read or what is your actual thought process?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 10:17 GMT
#332
read = red
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 10:25 GMT
#333
Vivax let me know when you are here without posting anything else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 10:37 GMT
#335
I kinda want DHY to answer me on the following things:
  • Why did he decide to use his rewind ability on stealing VA's item instead of bringing confirmed town Zyrre back to life?
  • What was he confused about after D1 end?

I would appreciate detailed answers DYH, thanks.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 11:24 GMT
#339
I am being serious Koshi, if you "steal" the item you will get lynched.
The way to lose these themed all roled games is not working for the plan, and you know it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 12:44 GMT
#344
I don't care what you think. There are very easy reasons why Vivax is not mafia and i cannot possibly be mafia unless Vivax is mafia. There are also very easy reasons why Glowingbear is not mafia.

I have given you the most pro-town action, which is that you do not take the item.
If you do not work towards town's wincondition then you should be murdered.
It's very simple.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 13:56 GMT
#350
Funny fact; If there is two mafia in this game Koshi has to be one of them.
The potato discussion between DYH -- Onegu never comes from mafia/mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 21:54 GMT
#365
So is anyone interested in trying to win this game and doing townie things here?
Or are you all just gonna post nothing and troll? Because that's what has being on in this game since beginning.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 22:08 GMT
#368
Okay that makes sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 22:26 GMT
#372
Okay so here is what i think;

- Glowingbear is town because the host said he is town. If there is an alignment-changing mechanic that happens mid-phase then it's unfortunate but that should not be the assumption in the first place, since it's just unreasonable to assume so. Obviously you can try to wifom every single thing in a mafia game if you so choose but that is just dumb.

- Vivax is town as he brought me to the game. If he is mafia and i am not that is just retarded thing to do (and a retarded power in the first place) and that just does not go as an argument. Sure you can argue that i am mafia with him. But then you come into the questions; Why do i post anything in the game right now? Why does Vivax do this on this phase (since he wasn't even under any suspicion). I can't answer the second question except for that it would be dumb to do that, and Koshi can try to yell "Vivax does dumb things as mafia" all he wants but it doesn't make it any more true. But the first question i can answer;

- If i am mafia with Vivax here i would not be posting in this game. If that is the case the game is right now 4-2 and we would need one mislynch to win the game. I would tell Vivax in our QT to make everyone massclaim and vote at the last second --> kill someone during the night --> win. Vivax' power works so that the hosts DO NOT CLARIFY i am in the game, which is proven by the thread. Even if you argue "Vivax does stupid things as mafia", i don't do stupid things as mafia.

And that's why Vivax is town aswell. Which also automatically makes me town.



Vivax thinks DYH could be mafia but i heavily disagree. I only wanted him to confirm his actions (or why he did them) and it makes sense from townie perspective. Saying "he killed two townies" is retarded because you FUCKING ALL thought both of bf/VA are scum. DYH is also a good scumplayer and i don't really think he would have fucked up with the potato early game as mafia. It's kinda sad those are the most townie things i can find in thread, but what can you do...

Koshi's cases are not based on anything and if he does not cooperate we should lynch him. I don't care. His cases are "well this guy (GB) got basically modconfirmed so i don't believe it and he is scum" and "Vivax did a townie thing so he could be mafia" AFTER saying he will "not vote for ANYONE except for DYH on D2". The whole thing doesn't make any sense from any perspective.

I don't know what Onegu is doing, well probably because he is not doing anything.

DYH is never ever mafia with Onegu, even if i am wrong on him --> so therefore if there is 2 mafia left in the game (i don't even believe that there is), Koshi has to be scum.



The best course of action is to massclaim (except for GB and me). I can claim if you guys insist, but i will do that the last, and GB will not claim in any case. Vivax has already claimed. So, go. Please.

And do not fucking take the items before them being discussed. It's anti-town. And will get you lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 22:27 GMT
#373
On February 04 2016 07:17 Vivax wrote:
And since you used your power you can claim your full role anyway

Oh yeah i forgot what makes DYH town.
It's his power.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 22:46 GMT
#376
Onegu if you are town please claim. Your role and actions throughout the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 22:55 GMT
#377
I would rather be sure before committing to lynching anyone.
It's the best play for Onegu and Koshi to claim.
It's the best play noone takes the item in case one spawns, before we talk about it. Just look at what happened on D1 when people were just being dumb...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 23:02 GMT
#380
Well then you are playing against your wincondition in case you are town and should be lynched.
Glad we got that covered.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 23:09 GMT
#383
You haven't done anything townie in this game and people do not know if you are town or not, nor do you have any way of proving yourself town (except for by claiming that would be possible -- which you refuse to).

If you can't understand why working towards the plan is the best play then i refuse to believe you because you are not fucking stupid enough to realize that knowing from what game you have JUST came out of.

So yeah, that's why.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 03 2016 23:11 GMT
#384
It is always more likely that people who do not work towards plans without any actual reason (see any PYP game on this site) are mafia. Noone has told me why my plan is bad. Koshi refuses to cooperate for shit reasons. Therefore he is very likely to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 04 2016 15:58 GMT
#390
idnu.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 04 2016 22:25 GMT
#408
##vote Onegu
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 04 2016 22:31 GMT
#411
He claims a role that is completely useless + he visited you (who is the person who would not die if NK'd)... nobody died.
I kinda believe Koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 04 2016 22:38 GMT
#416
Okay so DYH doesn't think anyone is mafia?

On the other hand we have a busdriver. We have a guy who can bring someone from outside the game to the game, We have a guy who can bring someone back from dead. We don't even know what GB is but i believe he is not mafia unless we are being trolled by the hosts. And then... we have a guy who "might have a cop chekc on N3".

Yesh?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 04 2016 22:38 GMT
#417
On February 05 2016 07:38 DoYouHas wrote:
I think I'm leaning Vivax. He would be completely in the clear due to numbers if someone had died last night. But it doesn't seem too far fetched to me that he could choose to not kill someone at night and instead pull a buddy into the game.

Vivax did that during the day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 04 2016 22:40 GMT
#421
On February 05 2016 07:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so DYH doesn't think anyone is mafia?

On the other hand we have a busdriver. We have a guy who can bring someone from outside the game to the game, We have a guy who can bring someone back from dead. We don't even know what GB is but i believe he is not mafia unless we are being trolled by the hosts. And then... we have a guy who "might have a cop chekc on N3".

Yesh?



And Watcher that watches himself...

That is very useful right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 04 2016 22:41 GMT
#423
Well i don't really care.
I will go back to bed.
Lynch whoever you want then. I cba to try in games where noone tries.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 05 2016 00:38 GMT
#452
"War. War never changes.

The Romans waged war to gather slaves and wealth. Spain built an empire from its lust for gold and territory. Hitler shaped a battered Germany into an economic superpower.

But war never changes. "

##Apocalypse Onegu
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 06 2016 01:12 GMT
#465
I guess it's technically not 72 hours then.
I think DYH is scum btw.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 06 2016 01:12 GMT
#466
##Vote GB
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 06 2016 03:48 GMT
#468
You didn't do anything, you had no opinion on the lynch, you voted for the technically mod-confirmed townie instead who you have literally zero reason to think is mafia.

Onegu is probably not scum.

I am gonna die in ~5 hours. That's my role, i am in the game for exactly 72 hours. I am town, Vivax is town, GB is town.

Murder DYH.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 06 2016 03:50 GMT
#469
Onegu you should unvote and then re-vote.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 06 2016 07:12 GMT
#471
Actually, the best way to do this is the following:

Everyone unvotes.
##unvote
Then Glowingbear votes for himself first, and other people follow.
That way GB can lynch whoever he wants to (right now he could not lynch Onegu since Onegu voted for him first).

GB: Vivax is not mafia. There is literally no way Vivax is mafia. Onegu's reaction N1 is kinda townie. Look at my post on DYH. I'd say the chances are DYH 80%, Onegu 20%.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 07 2016 23:16 GMT
#522
I think the cookie that "revealed" GB's alignment was close to b-modding and Onegu's claim was super fake, i just forgot to tell that to Vivax before i left the game, i didn't actually even think it was likely DYH is scum, just felt like trolling a little and then i ran out of time to be on computer (and also misread the time i was thrown out of the game ).

Good job guys.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 07 2016 23:23 GMT
#526
tbh when you have a game where people claim roles like busdriver, role that can basically revive a player, a role that brings someone out of the game into the game -- when someone claims "i might be able to cop someone on N3" they are always mafia. I was quite mad at DYH & Vivax for not voting for Onegu.... Then i remembered this game was ~16 pages with absolutely nothing in the thread so i stopped caring.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 07 2016 23:27 GMT
#528
On February 08 2016 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
You underestimated that Onegu and I had bonded over the heat of a potato.

I don't understand what you mean. I never thought you were both scum.
In fact i claimed there is no way you two are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-07 23:31:40
February 07 2016 23:29 GMT
#530
rofl

EDIT: Do you realize Onegu had no "bonding" there since he was not exactly trying to "risk his life" as he wrote the potato line before he knew what it did?

EDIT2: The only one who unnecessarily risked their life there was VA and that never makes them mafia, in fact it does the opposite.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
February 07 2016 23:35 GMT
#532
Well risked his life is "risked his life" since it was quite obvious VA wanted the potato so he could use his switcheroo power right at the eod and kill a person of his choosing which noone realized.... But since every single one of you thought he was scum it was irrelevant and explaining it would not help anyone.
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