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GargamelxD
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i am a pink unicorn and i cant speak sorry | ||
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lynchbait will be lynch bait even behind a smurf going to figure out his alignment | ||
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either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire ##Vote 77Goldrom | ||
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expand on gargamel and rom are bad and then this post | ||
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so i guess after realizing that im willing to vote both, and its not LS | ||
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in rom you have a guy who apologizes for being late, claims his role, asks about the latest news and in the next post acts like he doesnt care. | ||
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On February 12 2016 15:00 Wartrukk wrote: wait lol LS got modkilled, was the guy who was lying (and obviously LS) and ALSO VT I didn't really care about this game before and now I REALLY don't care hearing it from me was just as good as a modconfirmation, yams | ||
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valdiano is hts and town imo. | ||
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On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote: Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote: So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked incompatibility detected | ||
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i also have the sneaking suspicion that bh is in this game | ||
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On February 14 2016 00:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Gargamel i don't like how you are using very loose smurf hunting for reads. Wartrukks incompatibility: um between those two posts both those players died. You think he should have scum reads on flipped townies? he also said the rom wagon looked like shit, was that after his flip`? | ||
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why are you failing to notice this nnn? theres the feeling you are biased towards wartrukk | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:59 keanuisgod wrote: I think I implicated suspicion on Wartuk on N1 far better than saitama. If the point of the NK was because of reads on a scum Warty, why not shoot me? Saitama's posts about Warty on N1: + Show Spoiler + On February 12 2016 10:20 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Wartrukk is scum. Lynch tomorrow. On February 12 2016 13:47 saitamaofonepunch wrote: My PoE says wartrukk and then garg. Barring that I'd have to say I am wrong and that's why I am so hesitant to give reads. On February 12 2016 15:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Your thinking I scumread you for omgus is like your having thought that with nnn Compare to what I posted about him on N1: + Show Spoiler + On February 12 2016 10:03 keanuisgod wrote: It's really nice to come back to activity 1-2 hours before the lynch and shout how the "wagon looks like trash" isn't it? It's also really nice to vote right at the last moment to someone who is OBVIOUSLY not getting lynched and making no effort to try to get him lynched It also isn't suspicious at all to vote someone completely unrelated to the lynch and wait until the last second (when you KNOW your vote doesn't count and thus you can't be held accountable for anything) by just saying "I have real reasons but am still busy" Anyways, we know Bhaal is town now, so please explain your read on him. These are your only posts about him Why exactly was he in your "leanscum" pile? What does the "lying LS" thing have to do with anything? Did you even pay attention to my case on him and the later change of heart of many people in the thread about him? Saitama said "Warty is scum based on PoE, but I may be wrong so I'm hesitant to give out reads". You think that is enough to implicate Warty? i just think it looks bad on you if you post reasons for being suspicious about warty in something that looks like a defense of him. for you the nk implication should be secondary since you already have arguments for being suspicious of him so why make the NK argument the center of your post here? it just doesnt seem to be in line with your apparent preferences. if you think the nk argument is bad you might as well think "doesnt matter i have other reasons to scumread him, i think they are better and heres why" which would have seemed like a more townie way of approaching this. kita or bh | ||
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problem? | ||
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On February 15 2016 03:06 keanuisgod wrote: Warty and Garga are acting so stupidly this MYLO that it wouldn't surprise me both being scum bussing each other for shit and giggles to be honest This is a super odd post. Im voting my scumread, whom you suspect as well and that makes this post really scummy. There's no reason for you to believe that either me or warty are doing something stupid unless you are confident we're both town, seems like tmi, on me at least. | ||
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On February 15 2016 03:59 keanuisgod wrote: How does the phrase "If you are town you are acting stupidly; therefore it's possible you are actually scum" not make sense? And "acting stupidly" means parking a vote on someone with no reasonable justification on MYLO So all the shit you said about warty was a complete lie since in your opinion voting him isn't reasonable even though he has a good shot at being mafia and you should think that too. | ||
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youve never even made an accusation like the one on this page in the first place (which is the strawman), instead posted some theory how me and warty are mafia cause our votes are placed badly in your opinion. Why are they placed badly? Cause they're not on valdi. Why are they bad and not on valdi? Cause you are voting valdi and not warty (even though you have a case for voting warty or me here). For you to think that we are wasting our votes you have to think that we are town, which isn't in line with what you posted so far. | ||
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It's not an incompatibility because between the posts, both the read flipped. When I ask him to explain I think he just changes the subject. I can't how what he says is relevant. On February 12 2016 07:39 Wartrukk wrote: Wow this wagon looks like trash On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote: Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie On February 12 2016 08:00 Onegu wrote: Night 1 77GoldROM as VT has been lynched. unholyflare has been replaced by Iwasrobik Night 1 ends in Make sure you send any and all actions to all hosts as I may or may not still be in the hospital. Get your facts straight what the fuck. And that makes my argument strong again | ||
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You just have to read his filter to believe, there is barely any read progression in it, he just reacts to stuff happening in a given moment | ||
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Wartrukk cause of reasons and cause of the NK. if keanu is superbia it also makes perfect sense hes so proficient scum. Some of his posts havent come from a townie mindset, not just on this day but somewhere i pointed out another example. | ||
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On February 13 2016 03:45 keanuisgod wrote: Do you think that's strong enough? I am not comfortable enough in smurf reads and meta to based a scum read on them, at least personally. I suppose it can strenghen a case though. If we are still on the "lt's shit on Valdi a little bit", I found it somewhat scummy that he didn't really interact much with the thread. He kind of just came to the thread, dumped all his reads and "attempts at understanding" and then just waited, ocassionally responding to someone about saita and stuff. Didn't see him engaged with the thread at all (like Bhaal was for instance). That's the same feeling I get from Warty too. For instance, Garga doesn't give me that feeling for exmaple (he felt engaged in the thread for a while), though in Garga's case I'm not sure if it gives him town points, but rather makes it NAI. I find lack of engagement with the thread pretty indicative of scum Alone for the weighting hes giving to me and valdi compared to the weighting he gives to warty in forming his reads (on extremely waffly reasoning, a lot of this post is hogwash and wishwash if you try to follow this line of reasoning). Ok, valdi mafia cause dumps reads. He gets the same feeling from warty. Not from me, but for me its NAI for unspecified reasons. And today hes wartys prime defender, directly and by chainsaw on me. On February 13 2016 04:25 keanuisgod wrote: Now that you are here, what about Gargy? I get the feeling he's too confrontational and "in-your-face" to be scum, but based on PoE he's up there, at least considering the facts (the vote on a lurker without many other contributions regarding scum, etc) He follows it up with this. He never follows things up with going after wartrukk based on what he posts, but he 100 % goes on Valdi. | ||
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On February 15 2016 08:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You were really against lynching valdi, and I'm not sure why. I just spent the entire end of the day ranting about how I felt it was exactly not the case | ||
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As for Robik I need to see if hes trying to rush this lynch which would be scummy cause in his position its the obvious thing mafia would do when he hasnt been under flak and has me and warty to choose from for the ML. Not much else coming to mind right now cause I still need to do the reread. | ||
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On February 16 2016 08:06 Iwasrobik wrote: Garga could be scum TBF, this unexplained AFK period N1 and N2 when scum has no interest to post are really bad looking. Plus he's super uninterested in the lynch D2. I dont know why he says this, its actually the day where I played the most. His big case on me after dumbtelling warty is sketch cause of the confidence. I could be no where near as confident as him in this situation to the point of skipping a no lynch. It all happened after the situation where Warty was calling him scum, On February 16 2016 08:20 Wartrukk wrote: lol how the fuck is that a dumbtell that would make me town? The read progressions of the two on each other around last night specifically EoN are vital . Quoted is a post I find pretty townie in the situation, as warty is not just content of being townread here based on that dumbtell, upon which we have robik almost sounding apologetic for this: On February 16 2016 08:21 Iwasrobik wrote: it doesn't, but I'm getting out of this habit of dumbtell=town On February 17 2016 01:14 Iwasrobik wrote: The tinfoil on me is super townie. OK I think I have accepted you as town. Wartruk & Garga, if you're doc you need to claim right now. So he finally decides to TR warty for tinfoil (why would it be tinfoil?). And posts a big case on me when not really necessary from a convincing stand point. And it seems like one of these cases of the sort "fuck it I need to win today so heres my last ditch effort". In summary I have a hard time figuring out why exactly these two started TRing each other. If warty took more time with finishing his read on Robik I'd have had an easier time tring him, so im left with saying that atm im more confident on robik being scum of the two, also cause he seems to have been more right on the lynch on Valdi when at the same time he was scumreading Keanu. So this leads me to say: Why was Robik so confident about Valdi being scum when his other scumread was imo the main force behind that lynch? And that is another reason to me to suspect Robik more. | ||
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But yeah in your stead I would probably lynch myself too cause ive been on the wrong side of things every day, im not enough of a dick to tactically modkill myself for an easy town win though. You will have to tinfoil on me. Warty is either yams or sl and like me lately they prefer doing other stuff than spending all the time on mafia. Sl plays mafia on the go while hes in dota so im guessing its him. Im quite overburdened with this task of figuring it out for sure in such a short span, ill just do more stuff later, too bad keanu isnt sure either, woulda been an easy sheep | ||
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I typically get the opposite reaction from people suspecting me, so that gave me the impression of being just convenient at the time where you were able to switch your scumread to me (whom you correctly called town in the previous days when I actually played less). | ||
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On February 17 2016 19:00 Iwasrobik wrote: Kaenu was super undecided on Vlad, and soft defending him with "he's feeling town even though the AFK points to scum", so I have no idea what you are talking about. You would have if you read my points on keanu, anyway I had another impression. I thought he was covering Warty. | ||
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On February 17 2016 19:25 Iwasrobik wrote: Wait. You're talking about Kaenu here then. You're saying that it's weird that I scumread both Kaenu and Vald here: During N1, because, Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch". You cannot believe that for real. Kaenu at this point had only indicated Vlad as town. Wtf are you talking about? Its super simple. At EoD 2 I was scumreading Keanu cause I thought he was covering Warty, he was voting Valdi and suspecting me additionally. My point against you being that in this time your confidence into the valdi lynch never faltered even though your other scumread keanu was voting him, at least I believe you were scumreading him at the time. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 15 2016 04:48 GargamelxD wrote: you call my argument a strawman and then proceed to post a strawman? hilarious. youve never even made an accusation like the one on this page in the first place (which is the strawman), instead posted some theory how me and warty are mafia cause our votes are placed badly in your opinion. Why are they placed badly? Cause they're not on valdi. Why are they bad and not on valdi? Cause you are voting valdi and not warty (even though you have a case for voting warty or me here). For you to think that we are wasting our votes you have to think that we are town, which isn't in line with what you posted so far. On February 17 2016 19:43 Iwasrobik wrote: Why did you think Watruk tinfoiled on me ? Cause you said you thought he town for tinfoil, which you by the way adressed as a joke not long ago so seems like an out of place question now (this makes it look like you're just spamming whatever you can in an attempt to make me look bad). Why did you think Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch" ? Cause of my argument with him in which he went after me when I was wanting the warty lynch (this way actually preventing people from maybe wrongly going for warty ) and cause I wrongly believed he was voting for him earlier. For some reason I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument. Why were you present 1h50 before D2 lynch and 30 minutes after it but AFK during it ? Why did you never give a read on Vlad near D2's lynch when it was clear he was probably the lynch and you posted very close to the lynch ? Besides the "Vlad = HTS = town" read. The afk arguments don't interest me, I see no reason why it should be an issue if I don't post during the night, I was around D1 to pick my lynch and push it, D2 to do the same, and at night I just couldnt be arsed to play mafia when we were awaiting the NK. As for my Valdi read, it was a lazy read but I was somehow convinced I saw a town HTS posting there who was genuinely busy, I have nothing more to add to this. Im still convinced it was HTS but a busy and mafia one. | ||
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On February 17 2016 21:54 keanuisgod wrote: So Gargy, what do you think about my points about Warty? Do you agree with them (apparently)? No, not really, cause I just read this: On February 15 2016 05:45 Wartrukk wrote: Right now I'm thinking robik and garg is the most likely scumteam On February 15 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote: Vote Count Valdiano (3): Iwasrobik, nnn_thekushmountains, keanuisgod Wartrukk (1): GargamelxD GargamelxD (1): Wartrukk Not Voting (1): Valdiano At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here Only votes there will be counted. On February 15 2016 07:20 Wartrukk wrote: Hm, should I switch so scum can't last minute hammer or what? Probably On February 15 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote: ##unvote ##vote: valdiano This makes warty still just as likely to be mafia (which would be nice so i didnt waste my energy on nothing yesterday actually )The reason for his switch doesn't make much sense if he believes me and robik to be mafia, he should have been confident that we were about to lose the game, not afraid that robik might switch to him leading to valdi being lynched anyway. Imo this is still a strong point to be suspicious of him, mafia might have been afraid of ending up on the wrong wagon here, could easily have been tmi showing itself. Btw the votecount is wrong, keanu voted just before that count, so try to count that in. | ||
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On February 17 2016 22:18 Iwasrobik wrote: Again, for the third time, that didn't happen. I townread kaenu for tinfoil not Wartruk. Every point you said against me were false: "I used a dumbtell to townread wartruk and was apolegitic about it" => didn't happen "I townread wartruk because he tinfoiled me" => didn't happen. "I scumread Kaenu who was the main force behind Vlad's lynch" => didn't happen. Your recent suspicions against me are only starting now that I'm pretty sure you are the last scum, and are based on things that didn't happen. You're OMGUSing me. Nothing about Wartruk has changed, you didn't post any change to your read of him, but for some reason you're attacking me now. You're wrong. I'm telling you you're lying when you're saying " I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument". Prove it's true or shut up. If that didn't happen then what is the reason for you townreading Warty? The dumbtell was a joke, the tinfoil is wrong, so what are we left with for you to TR him all of a sudden? | ||
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You also don't seem interested into what me and keanu bring up on warty, just into lynching me. Overall it's not helpful that you and warty show a similar behaviour in this, makes it harder to figure out the last one between you. Anyone can write a case on someone in this game and sound somewhat right, but there's only one solution, and you believe you found it after your echange with warty that still leaves me wondering why you let him off the hook so quickly if not for convenience. | ||
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I also don't see any relations between Valdi and me or warty that aren't relations Valdi wanted to be in the game. | ||
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On February 17 2016 22:59 Iwasrobik wrote: To add on "AFKing on tactical moments without explanation" Rels and Superbia did it in PYP. Palmar did it in Star Wars. Vlad did it in this game. It is something scum just feels the need to do sometimes as posting all the time as scum is super hard. If activity is so predictive of mafia, why was the D1 lynch town? Sod off with such arguments, they are the kind of arguments that you can disprove with 1 example. They come from people who think can prove all apples are red by trying to find red apples.... @ Keanu The no lynch thingy actually holds true (unless warty wasnt sure whether valdi would show up to vote), but even then last minute stuff is risky and he didnt know if I was actually around, so idk if I can just buy it so easily. It's a get out of jail free card if we apply it and he's mafia. | ||
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On February 17 2016 23:08 keanuisgod wrote: What exactly about what I posted about Warty do you not agree with? I mentioned 4 points, please post what you disagree with them. Gargy, if you are town then from your POV robik should really be scum, so you really should find more incriminating stuff about him, not "dumbtell lies" or confusing shit. Either that or you are NOT making it clear why you think Warty could still be scum, in a believable way at least (based on what was already said about Warty). If his confidence into me being mafia and warty being town that literally came out of the blue and before he actually posted the case on me isn't an argument to you, then lynch me, but lose the game. I already didn't care on D2 when I believed we were going to lose, so I won't care today either. I will do stuff when Im arsed to, but asking me to just eat up your version of events and start posting cases on Robik is insanity. Don't worry however, I'm not done posting. | ||
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Been in the situation before where you are the main suspect and supposed to be the one delivering cases on everyone else. No, fuck that, you have to do that too. | ||
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And with this, since I figure you will never ever believe I am town, lynch me, good luck with the save (its a 50 50) and then lynch warty. | ||
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On February 18 2016 03:33 Wartrukk wrote: I feel like there's not much for me to say here as garg digs himself a nice cozy hole but hi rels yours is already pretty deep too so enjoy the 50 percent chance of winning when the night is over | ||
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