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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 29 2016 08:46 darthfoley wrote: Just wanna make sure I understand: you're saying you think both Alur and I voted for Kuragari for legitimate reasons? Yes. I think your sheep was with good reason and his vote was well based. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Post 504: Alur says (second time) Kura is not original. Post 505: Trfel makes loooong nonsense harping on Alur's original point on MexicanAlien. Post 533 + 534: Alur gives scumreads and more explanation. Post 535: Trfel asks why Alur SR Kura, even after Alur has already explained his reasoning twice! Post 536: Trfel giving a very long analogy for the MA point. Why is he still taking about this? Post 538: Alur says (third time) reasons for SR Kura. Gives more detail. Post540: Trfel dismisses Alur's read and asks what Alur thinks of Onegu. Why. Just why. Did he really need to know what everyone is thinking of Onegu?? Also, Alur already said what he thought about Onegu in post 533. Post 542: eden says he wishes he didn't have to read all the pages and scumreads Trfel Post 544: Trfel disagrees with eden (no duh) and says this: I generally try to leave things open ended and avoid putting things in people's mouths. it is useful to me to see how other people describe things It is useful??? This game is about town winning, but Trfel wants to collect as much information as he can while not giving any. He does this remarkably well, and since his thread presence is good, if you don't read his posts carefully, it looks like he is contributing!!! Post 549: PMT asks Trfel what his read on Tumbleweed is. This is Trfel's chance to give some original opinions and contribute to the thread. Post 553: I don't have a read on tumbleweed,to be honest. The only thing that stands out is that he seems to be very careful in his posts. a lot of people seem to be suspecting Tumbleweed, can someone remind me as to why? Travel says tumbleweed seems careful, even though not too long ago tumbleweed was making pretty wild accusations at darthfoley. Instead of reading people's reads, he asks some one to tell him what has already been said, clogging up the thread. He fails to give constructive comments. Post 567: Trfel asks Alur why he is SRing Shapelog. Firstly, Alur never scumread Shapelog. Alur never even scum leans him. So why does Trfel ask this???? Post 573+574: Alur and darthfoley vote on Kura. Post 575: Trfel immediately votes for Tumbleweed, ±20 posts after he "has no read on tumbleweed". I could go on, but seriously, Trfel has been playing to clog up the thread with his **** Trfel is MAFIA | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 29 2016 09:03 Trfel wrote: Vote count analyses are very different depending on whether or not there is mafia up for lynch. If all of the wagons were town, mafia doesn't really care what happens. As such, people who seem invested at end of day and care about the lynch are more likely town. If there is mafia up for lynch, then obviously people who voted for the flipped town are more suspicious. But that's very poor preflip association analysis to simply assume that mafia wanted Kuragari42 to be lynched. I thought that Kuragari42 had slipped blue and/or was claiming blue, in which case it's always incorrect to lynch him. When I looked at his filter more carefully, this wasn't the case, so I switched my vote to him because his reads didn't seem very interesting. It didn't feel like Kuragari42 was trying to help further town and help catch scum, but instead just state his reads for the record. In retrospect, this isn't very alignment indicative. Tumblewood wasn't going to get lynched, and I already explained my reasons for scumreading him as well as I could. I don't really think that JesusIncarnate is mafia. So why did you think Kuragari42 NOT slipping blue was a good reason for a lynch??? "His reads didn't seem interesting"????? What the ****!! Well of course "just stating his reading for the record" is NAI! Why do you need retrospect to see this?! | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
I switched my vote to him because his reads didn't seem very interesting Courtesy of resident scumbag Trfel. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
I noticed You ignored my very convincing post about you. Trfel for Mafia! | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Kush posts reads with zero explanation. (Onegu, darthfoley, ext.) Mexican Alien sticks to his vote. (Shapelog, Alur, ext.) Judging Kura for 'begging to be lynched' (irrelevant now, everyone) Not suspicious of early voters (MexicanAlien, Shapelog, ext) Trfrl reads without reasons (Shapelog, daethfoley, Alur) Jesus not being here (Shapelog, eden, ect.) Alur townread- he's hunting scum (pretty much everyone) Trfel not furthering game and random Q's (MexicanAlien, Alur, darthfoley) Shape log saying he will do stuff and doesn't (MexicanAlien) Actually you have one slightly original thought. That is, you doubt my case on trfel because you don't scumread PMT, even though I don't either anymore. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
The way he acts like it he doesn't need any defense leads me to believe he is scum and will convince his scummates to NK the biggest threat to him. If he was town, he should try hard to defend himself so that we don't lynch another VT. Pretending to not care or saying stuff like "that's all I have to say on the matter" is Trfel's way of trying to close the case against him, so that no new opinions are made. + Show Spoiler + BTW I still think Tumblewood is scum. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
I have no trouble accepting the role of Trfel's wagondriver. Iknow this is seen as bad, but is actually neutral until the lynched flips. | ||
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South Africa193 Posts
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 30 2016 05:12 Eden1892 wrote: Yeah fuck Onegu he's scum. Being an ass to people telling them to stop doing things, terribad reads and suspects, inactive and not doing anything even before IRL issues arose to explain that away. This also means Trfel is town, which is fine, because I was starting to get some cognitive dissonance feels reading Trfel's most recent posts. This picture makes a lot more sense. Hey guys just woke up I'm reading though the pages. Just thought it was interesting how eden gets accused, then starts retaliating with pretty bad arguments. Also, eden gives the impression that he is having doubt about Trfel, even though Trfel is scummy as hell, much more so than onegu ever was. Tfrel says people are ignoring his analysis, bit this is because they mostly nothing posts, just cooking back to topics wet have ashtray talked about. Also, trfel ignores people's analysis on him, so it still looks good to me for tfrel's lynch, until he gives some solid helpful stuff. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
I think Mafia is: Tfrel Eden1892 Mafia lean: Ikidomari Jesusincarnate Town lean: darthfoley PepperMintTea Town: Shape log Null: nooniansoong | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 31 2016 15:17 Eden1892 wrote: We are not lynching Trfel. That post is literal never ever coming from scum. I don't even know who we are lynching yet but it's not Trfel. Period. This re-enforcing my point that they have an aversion to lynching each other. Why would you assume that we will not lynch Trfel just because you don't want to. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 31 2016 16:10 Eden1892 wrote: In the middle of rereading Trfel's filter this game and comparing to his most recent town and scum game. I am inclined to think his play this game is actually more reminiscent of his last mafia game from what I did read, but I'm also really skeptical about how useful this information is, since the basis of the comparison is basically all tonal and there are several things that may affect that. I'd have to give a more complete reread of all his past games, after adjusting for how recent they are (since how he played months/years ago isn't representative of anything) and I don't really feel like doing that. This is nothing. You say you are *underlined *, and you think you'll have to *italisized*, but you 'don't feel like doing that'. I don't see why you'd have to read his past games just to get a meta. And we don't care what you don't feel like doing. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 31 2016 15:45 darthfoley wrote: I'm personally offended that you have Shapelog as more of a town read than me given that i'm the vigilante aka blue role lol I'm sorry, when i woke up this morning after not reading the thread for the whole of Saturday, I missed that Blue claim. If you did claim. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Did he claim this? | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:17 nooniansoong wrote: Also ma, Your primary scum reads are based on a connection theory. Connection theories before any scum have flipped are generally bad. I think both are being reasonable in not wanting to lynch the other . Eden is not lymchabe today because the support for lynching him isn't there. Trfel looks townie due to the size and quantity of his posts. (he's not but I think it makes sense that Eden thinks he is) My advice to you in regards to scumhunting is to look at people's arguments behind their scumreads. Do they make sense to you or do they seem fake? OK yeahi get it. Thanks for the tip. | ||
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