EPTNewbie Student Mafia XIX - Page 2
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_MexicanAlien
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Very good reasons. | ||
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On January 27 2016 07:57 _MexicanAlien wrote: Off for now be back at maybe around 04:00 GMT (+00:00) 6:00 AM CAT* didn't work properly | ||
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You said you think that Shapelog seemed "overexcited or nervous". If he was in fact town, why would he be nervous? He should be put off by accusations/scum observations. Also, what about being townie make him overexcited? I can see how rolling mafia would make a noob overexcited or nervous. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
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2. Slight townread on _MexicanAlien. He seems to have a genuine interest in solving the game. Didn't know that mafia knows the setup (could be WIFOM I guess, but whatevs). Talk about other players. On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? Not sure what you're referring to, very curious to hear what you've noticed. [/QUOTE] I actually did know that Mafia knew the setup, but I forgot when I posted about giving away info. I thought the pattern I was referring to seemed clear. Shapelog thought of something, harped on that topic, when others said it was counterproductive he suddenly switched sides and heeled put down his own suggestion. For the most part, Shapelog seems to be too eager too agree with whatever anyone proposes. Also looks too helpful to me, ignores his own defense, sutly defending me with cheap townie reads. | ||
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On January 27 2016 14:25 darthfoley wrote: Sure. I think that Shapelog's first few posts were pretty bad from a town standpoint. What I mean by that, is that I could see an eager player latching onto Shapelog's questions about the blue roles and believing that he's just being terribly obvious scum. I actually disagree with MexicanAlien's read re Shapelog, but I can see why another newer player could interpret it as simply obvious mafia play. If you want to know my reasons, look at my reply to Alur + I don't think an inexperienced mafia player who was on the hot seat right off the bat would respond by continued activity and the longest filter in the game so far. I hesitate to give MexicanAlien anything more than a slight town read now. I think he's null town lead. I also have some suspicions of my own, but like you, I would prefer to keep them to myself until more people have joined the conversation. Looking at this from a new angle, I see your point. I'm not ready to dismiss Shapelog as a suspect, but I get how he just might be "too scum" to actually be scum. Either he's clique noob scum, or he's simply bad at focusing, too talkative, and a noob. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
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On January 27 2016 15:21 Shapelog wrote: How is trying to read the person everyone has mixed emotion on a bad thing? I guess I could see what you mean by less interactive. Trfel is right in a way. My primary motivation is solving the game. To a player with my experience, Shapelog's comments and posts seem to very strongly suggest that he is scum. Therefor, in an attempt to solve the game (by convincing myself and others as to the identity of the Mafia), I became a little overeager and attached to Shapelog's trial. Also, when it was just Onegu, Darthfoley, Shapelog, and myself posting the game was quite simple. Simple to analyze, that is. When all these other players came on and started posting, the game became much much more complicated. Because of that, I am trying to come up with reads on different people through their opinions and posts. This is going to take me some time. Anyway, I have to go now. I will be back later in the day. | ||
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Onegu has seemed slightly scummy, and he's definitely not a cooperative player. There's still something sketchy about PepperMintTea in my mind though. | ||
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Onegu as a townie veteran would probably know better, and not encourage interpreting bad play as scummy. Onegu as a Mafia veteran would have wanted to bandwagon Shapelog. Also, Onegu hardly puts forward any original arguments for Shapelog's guilt, instead he just reposts others'. This would allow him to not seem like scum if Shapelog was lynched and flipped Townie. | ||
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On January 27 2016 22:04 JesusIncarnate wrote: Good day lads. I already hate shapelog. I think they're scum. Quite clear they are trying to make themselves seem incredibly towny. No fear of putting a target on their back either. I mean, lol making a potential setup list is pointless. stupid Mexican seems town to me, I wouldnt expect a scum to do something in this tone with this little care for other people. okay so now im moving along and shape is calling his posts dumb after being called out. ResidentSleeper. quite the twist on peppers post. I think they were trying to spout "helpful" stuff (ie: the potential rolelists) i also like alur, there reads are pretty similar to mine. tumblewood has kind of similar reads to mine, but he is null on pepper. So what the fuck are you doing boy? My next post will be page 16 onward. Dude what do you expect from a newbie game? Why are you giving your irrelevant feedback on things that do not relate to what's going on? Read the whole thread before posting. Your opinions have [probably] already been expressed and you are spamming. | ||
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Relevant = what relates to the observation you want to share. It would be different if you quoted one person's long post. | ||
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Come on Shape log, maybe give some focus and do something instead of telling everyone what you are going to do next. You have told us you are gong to read this person's filter, then that person's filter. We don't care whose filter you are going to read or not. After you actually read the promised filters, maybe you can give us some original feedback and thoughts. | ||
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You voted to lynch her for the implied reasoning below: "I can't understand her reads." "she was in the thread for a very short period of time...." Then you took back your vote because of PepperMintTea's "point against onegu". What do you think about PepperMintTea now and why? | ||
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On January 27 2016 18:03 PepperMintTea wrote: .... To quickly answer a question I saw has come up a few times. Generally of the form "why does nervousness make him town?" I don't know the exact reason. Maybe he is nervous about being mis-lynched, maybe he is anxious to get town read by other players. The point being it is easy to be nervous or anxious if you are a new player. Whatever the reason, I viewed his haphazard posting as a result of over excitement and nerves and that this is typically town. .... This may be late in coming but I think it deserves some thought. I find it interesting how PMT rephrases this question. She says "why does nervousness make him town?", when more along the lines of what was asked is "why would nervousness make him seem town?" Or "why do you think being nervous makes him town?" It looks like PMT took it for granted that people thought Shapelog is town from that point on. She goes on to say "I don't know the exact reason." This "reason" is an opinion, not a fact! Shouldn't PMT be aware as to her own reasons for town reading Shapelog? He is obviously not nervous about being mis-lynched, and not stressing about trying to prove his townieness. PMT ends with the conclusion that Shapelog's "haphazardous posting is a result of his overexitment and nerves and that this is typically town." THIS IS RIDICULOUS. Since when is overexitement and nerves a symptom of being townie ?? PepperMintTea is Mafia! | ||
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On January 28 2016 01:21 PepperMintTea wrote: I was asked the same question more than once and that is the general form. Considering I read shapelog as town and these are the questions I was asked , my "rephrasing of the question" is in fact not interesting. It appears you have not understood what I said and I apologise for that. Let me simplify things for you. I don't know the exact reason behind ShapeLog being nervous or over excited. There could be many reasons, I gave a few. However I do think he came across as nervous or over excited, that is my opinion. As a result of this it caused his haphazardous posting. In my opinion Haphazardous posting of that form typically comes from town. hence my conclusion. If you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you. Let the readers decide what is interesting. Why did you exclude the most plausible reason for Shapelog's nervousness? He is Mafia. It's Occam's razor. The best reason for the way he is acting is that he is Mafia. And the most plausible reason for you excluding this very obvious solution is that you are Mafia too. So-called "haphazardous" posting is a great way for Mafia to Spam out important points and make people lose focus. | ||
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Onegu, once you catch up, I'd really appreciate an answer to my question to you in 
