EPTOn January 27 2016 11:01 nooniansoong wrote:
pepperminttea has a zero percent chance of people male imo
pepperminttea has a zero percent chance of people male imo
Lol did i miss something?
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Shapelog
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darthfoley
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1. Shapelog is the most scummy player to me. Reason A: Announcing you have some sort of tell on a player(noon), before he has even posted seems like a really bad idea. If hes mafia he can now attempt to replicate his his VT play from "the last two games", and even if he doesn't do "the tell" he'll be more prepared to defend himself from Shapelog. Reason B: He was the first to bring up the possible setups. Before the game started I considered if there would be any merit for town to discuss setups on D1, and I concluded that talking about it before anyone had claimed anything would be probably be useless. Bringing up useless stuff doesn't further the town agenda. ...makes it more likely that Shapelog is town tbh. Inexperienced mafia might do one of those two things, but doing them both within a short amount of time feels like he was just posting stream of consciousness, which is hard to replicate if you're inexperienced mafia. Repeated mistakes like this going forward and my opinion of Shapelog will change. I'm also not sure I understand where Alur is going with point A: he's saying that Shapelog's read comment could alter Noon's play if Noon is mafia, while also using this as evidence towards mafia!Shapelog. What motivation would a mafia have to post this "future read" for a town? I agree that talking about his Noon read is not smart, but it's a bad idea as town giving mafia a way out of being read, rather than scum giving a town a way out of being mislynched. Not sure why you read this as a scum lean. I'm also curious about MexicanAlien's pattern he mentioned. I'd like to hear more about that. I'm reading his aggressive stance vs. Shapelog as town lean right now, because I can see why a newer player would come to the conclusion that Shapelog is scummy given his posts so far. | ||
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Kuragari42
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Shapelog
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About to check Darthfy's Filter. | ||
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Trfel
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Initially, how serious did you think I was with my first post? On January 27 2016 06:00 Trfel wrote: Onegu is mafia because he's too excited about the game to be town. One down  | ||
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darthfoley
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Shapelog
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On January 27 2016 07:06 darthfoley wrote: The infamous Eden. Thankfully in this game I can answer your queries without having to worry about scum slipping I can't explain why i feel weird about this post. It seems NAI but i feel like it could be posted by scum. And it is a joke respond to a Eden who was trying to find out what was going on (which what happen to him btw?) feels out of place a bit. On January 27 2016 07:19 darthfoley wrote: You mean, discuss what the blue roles would do IF they in fact are in the setup? Discussing blue roles in depth too early is dangerous for the town. That information is really valuable for mafia, ESPECIALLY because their setup is the same for each of the 4 possibilities. Bolded is really not valuable info for mafia IMO, as knowing what is on their team doesn't really = what blue roles are in the game. However, this post does have Pro-townie vibes from it. I can't recall when he said it, but I feel if he was scum he would of pushed the conversation a bit further. Also if he was scum he would cut out the bottom half and left the Question. On January 27 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote: Fact is, we won't have much to go on until the rest of the game starts interacting. Each day is 2 days so we have plenty of time lol He is chilled with this post. This suggests that he isn't worried what he looks like. He is more concern about analyzing content. So +1 to him. Overall, I feel confident giving him a town lean as I go to bed. His filter will prob. the first I check after I re read to see how he goes on later in the day. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On January 27 2016 11:17 Trfel wrote: Shapelog: Initially, how serious did you think I was with my first post? Not Serious at all. | ||
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darthfoley
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darthfoley
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On January 27 2016 11:28 darthfoley wrote: Just FYI Shapelog, it was a little joke to Eden because as Artanis after my last game with Eden, Eden "had me by the balls" early on reading me correctly as scum. Wait did I /obs that Game? I can even remember anymore. Well I am about to hit the can, So Chiao. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
Town: (none yet) Leaning Town: Alur, Trfel Null: PepperMintTea, nooniansong, Onegu Leaning Scum: darthfoley, _MexicanAlien Scum: Shapelog My reasoning on Shapelog: Shapelog has acted generally like a newbie scum player all game. He started the game off with about five jokes and no content. Given that this is day 1, that's not too important. I'm not sure how to feel on the weird read toward nooniansong, because it doesn't necessarily feel scummy or townie, just poorly informed. But the posts that really strike me are: On January 27 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote: I am not trying to read him lol. I am just saying there is something he does and as the day(s) goes on I will look for it, if it is absent, I will comment on it. Unless your scum team kills me, in which case i can just use it later on  .and On January 27 2016 07:55 Shapelog wrote: Yeah i was revising the logic on it after Deathfy posted about it. Also I am always Sus. on my D1's, Both as Blue and Vt due to my reactive, blah blah blah trolling playstyle Yet to roll mafia sadly, thought this would be the one =(. In both of them, he mentions something about not being scum. Why would a townie ever do that? Why would anyone ever do that? "Unless your scum team kills me," and, "Yet to roll mafia sadly," are things normal townies don't just drop. It just screams to me, "Oh boy, what a shame I'm not mafia!" Also, "I am always Sus. on my D1's" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I haven't played with Shapelog before. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On January 27 2016 11:30 Tumblewood wrote: Read over the thread, and these are my reads so far: Town: (none yet) Leaning Town: Alur, Trfel Null: PepperMintTea, nooniansong, Onegu Leaning Scum: darthfoley, _MexicanAlien Scum: Shapelog My reasoning on Shapelog: Shapelog has acted generally like a newbie scum player all game. He started the game off with about five jokes and no content. Given that this is day 1, that's not too important. I'm not sure how to feel on the weird read toward nooniansong, because it doesn't necessarily feel scummy or townie, just poorly informed. But the posts that really strike me are: and In both of them, he mentions something about not being scum. Why would a townie ever do that? Why would anyone ever do that? "Unless your scum team kills me," and, "Yet to roll mafia sadly," are things normal townies don't just drop. It just screams to me, "Oh boy, what a shame I'm not mafia!" Also, "I am always Sus. on my D1's" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I haven't played with Shapelog before. You are not prepare for my mast--- Oh look Candy! Also I am da master of self meta :D | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
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darthfoley
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ESPECIALLY because their setup is the same for each of the 4 possibilities. I wrote this before I reread that mafia knows the entire setup of the game. In the last game I played, I was scum and we had a framer, which was only present in 2/4 setups, so we were able to narrow down Blue roles manually. I was thinking that mafia could only get blue role tells from town, because all of their setups were the same. My point is moot, however, because mafia is aware of the full setup from the get go. | ||
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darthfoley
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On January 27 2016 11:48 darthfoley wrote: Tumblewood, can you explain why you're town reading Trfel? He has four one liners so far. Which of them makes him lean town for you? I remember some slight town lean posts and nothing scummy, so that was enough to put him up there in my memory. Looking through his filter, though, there's not much to put him on one side or the other. If I had to redo that list, I'd swap Onegu and Trfel. | ||
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darthfoley
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Trfel
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@Alur: How confident are you in Shapelog being mafia? Also, can you explain specifically what you didn't like/understand about PepperMintTea's post? Because I thought I understood it pretty well. @Nooniansoong: On January 27 2016 10:10 nooniansoong wrote: Which point are you referring to, and to what extent do you agree with it?alur yeah that point about MA makes sense. @Onegu: What do you think about Shapelog's alignment, and why? | ||
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Kuragari42
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