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Damdred
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January 14 2016 15:14 GMT
#6
Kicks the door in. Get your ass back in here data *shakes fist*
Damdred
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January 15 2016 00:04 GMT
#21
Hi
Damdred
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January 15 2016 00:27 GMT
#27
One day I believe the 49ers along with the Seahawks will no longer be teams
Damdred
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January 15 2016 00:49 GMT
#30
Caught me free scum right here folks
Damdred
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January 15 2016 00:59 GMT
#33
People having 0 respect for a game going on basically. Hf will swap but if you aren't oh the players list just not right.

Anyway rit what do you think of say hf? More than likely town?
Damdred
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January 15 2016 01:07 GMT
#36
This is annoying me you signed up to play a game it's the same ducking game rerolled we didn't even get 24 hours into a day.

. GodDamn
Damdred
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January 15 2016 01:14 GMT
#40
I didn't mean swap phone auto corrected me. I meant stick it out shrug
Damdred
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January 15 2016 05:12 GMT
#64
But does trfel try to start some kind of meaningful conversation in a shit storm as scum?

I think its more town indicative than scum rayn
Damdred
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January 15 2016 21:20 GMT
#142
Hi I guess I should do things bit there is a lot to read any direct questioms?
Damdred
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January 15 2016 21:30 GMT
#149
A lot is a mixed bag I feel part of hid filter sounds towny and a few posts I absolutely despise. His post about not deserving a tr from trfel might fit into the last category, either he's super self aware or,mafia misgivings most town player a be like fuck yeah either your scum confirming me or I'm a beacon of town.

Trfel I I can't read but my initial gut says town.

Palmar idk
Damdred
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January 15 2016 21:42 GMT
#153
At least I know rayn is probably town.

Why is geript scum rayn
Damdred
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January 15 2016 21:59 GMT
#161
On January 16 2016 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 16 2016 06:42 Damdred wrote:
At least I know rayn is probably town.

Why is geript scum rayn

because he calls Alot scum for scumreading his top scumread.
ez.


I mean this isn't a bad point I want geript to talk about it some.

But I can think of one reason a town might do it
Damdred
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January 16 2016 01:31 GMT
#170
Trfel do you think geript is town?
Damdred
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January 16 2016 01:37 GMT
#172
Just depends I think.

What about nm and rayn?
Damdred
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January 16 2016 14:24 GMT
#202
Ooooo he's asm from strada I didn't even make that correlation rip me.

I think rayns town and some of asm posts have been towny to me I'm going to try at rayn on that.

And good morning I'll be here most the day I think
Damdred
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January 16 2016 14:42 GMT
#204
Can we lynch dyh
Damdred
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January 16 2016 14:57 GMT
#206
No I'm not I don't feel like a hf lynch. And you can't tell me what to do hf
Damdred
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January 16 2016 15:02 GMT
#209
When have I ever fear lynched you though hf? I'm prideful enough that I think I can catch you even if I dont, I don't see how your scum here. Your outburst was nai to a degree yes but yeah.

I don't think you egg on your lynch as scum as wifom as that is.
Damdred
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January 16 2016 15:47 GMT
#215
On January 17 2016 00:36 Trfel wrote:
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On January 17 2016 00:02 Damdred wrote:
When have I ever fear lynched you though hf? I'm prideful enough that I think I can catch you even if I dont, I don't see how your scum here. Your outburst was nai to a degree yes but yeah.

I don't think you egg on your lynch as scum as wifom as that is.
Damdred, do you think that Holyflare as town wouldn't care enough to not push his reads?


Basically it's nai because the same argument could be made either way tbh.

Could hf do it as scum? Yes. Could he do it as tpwn? Possibly more 're than likely

Hf to my knowledge likes to play as scum and town so yeah
Damdred
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January 16 2016 15:51 GMT
#220
Just answer this if you don't want to play a game and sort of trapped in it would you push your reads?

Hf probably will be lynched today but idk I think he flips town
Damdred
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January 16 2016 15:53 GMT
#223
On January 17 2016 00:50 Trfel wrote:
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On January 17 2016 00:47 Damdred wrote:
On January 17 2016 00:36 Trfel wrote:
On January 17 2016 00:02 Damdred wrote:
When have I ever fear lynched you though hf? I'm prideful enough that I think I can catch you even if I dont, I don't see how your scum here. Your outburst was nai to a degree yes but yeah.

I don't think you egg on your lynch as scum as wifom as that is.
Damdred, do you think that Holyflare as town wouldn't care enough to not push his reads?


Basically it's nai because the same argument could be made either way tbh.

Could hf do it as scum? Yes. Could he do it as tpwn? Possibly more 're than likely

Hf to my knowledge likes to play as scum and town so yeah
Sorry, here's my thought process, where do you disagree?

1. Holyflare isn't pushing his reads
2. If town doesn't push their reads, then they are not trying to win the game / disinterested in the game
3. If scum doesn't push their reads, this doesn't necessarily matter because their goal is to survive (thus, as long as survival is accomplished, it's perfectly acceptable)


Yeah I don't disagree but I don't see how three applies here as hf is using antisurvibal maneuvers but he could be scum wifoming. So it's nai
Damdred
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January 16 2016 16:03 GMT
#225
Honestly I don't know nobody seems to care after the reroll and I'm not sure I'd it's indicative.

Dyh is a decent lynch considering his activity or lack thereof.

We just don't have a lot of activity or information to go on besides a few town reads currently.
Damdred
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January 16 2016 17:05 GMT
#258
I'm actually halfway certain that Trfel is town here.

1) The way trfel is handling himself when interacting with people seems to have a genuine mindset of wanting to work with the thread. Most of the questions trfel aka are ok and doesn't really drop them.

2) While some of the reads or progression are questionable I don't think that's necessarily scum indicative of trfel. I think part of his response especially Sally to talking to me stepping back to reevaluate seems towny and even as he does this he has another thought process to talk about ie nm.

I like trfel I don't think he's lock town but definitely don't think he should,be lynched today
Damdred
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January 16 2016 17:12 GMT
#263
On January 17 2016 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well who do you think should be lynched Damdred?


There are several who,haven't voted or posted that might be worth a policy lynch. Even nm might be worth a look.
Damdred
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January 16 2016 17:49 GMT
#283
Ok rayn talk to me,here.

Lets say flip happens trfel is town hf gets shot. What/who are you looking at?
Damdred
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January 16 2016 17:57 GMT
#285
Your being no fun I'm probably not voting for either today tbh but there's no other content really to go on.

I have rayn town
Trfel town
Asm is probably town now

Though the lack of geript is interesting and might be worth a look
Damdred
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January 16 2016 19:49 GMT
#302
Nm while it a true full metal for trfel did sort of fit into two I don't think that this fits exactly. At a certain point trfel just gave up that game.

Not sure about here exactly cared a bot more about getting heard want to say town still.

Something about geript makes me sorta say don't lynch today either.

HF even though I think he flips town might just be the lynch to avoid distraction this game.

But I want people's opinions elsewhere.
Damdred
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January 16 2016 20:12 GMT
#308
Am I still scum btw hf?

Nm I thought 've explained himself well what didn't you like?
Damdred
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January 16 2016 20:49 GMT
#316
I think I know what's going to happen at hf count down anyway.
Damdred
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January 16 2016 20:56 GMT
#324
I do like how nm is totally ignoring me and just doing his own thing.
Damdred
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January 16 2016 21:10 GMT
#329
You will have to explain that one a lot more
Damdred
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January 16 2016 21:35 GMT
#337
Here's the thing.

I don't think that's enough to town read Ritoky on. For example,he has several scum games where he pushes the responsibility on someone else who is town. Down under I think he did this and he did it in a ongoing game which I can't talk about.

So I don't get your town read and your lack of suspicion about him after playing with two scum rut is a bit disconcerting especially when I want to tr you.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 16 2016 21:55 GMT
#351
I think it's 2 it was a postvrestriction game I was in.

Town Ritoky generally takes responsibility and pushes what he thinks. I don't even really know of there is much reason exactly for rot to town 've here besides just someone to,sheep for sheep sake


Besides that there were other things in the other game as well I agree. Like I agree town motivated side is town looks for someone to sheep they trust and does so. But there's also rayn and his soul read buddy me in here, so do you think 've deserved that type of sleeping at this poibt?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 16 2016 22:00 GMT
#358
That was to nm we were talking about ritoky.

I'm sort of trying to have fun ignoring hf and rayn. Hf is going to claim a role when his counter hits 0.
People who aren't playing and blame hf have themselves to blame, hf might be a duck for doing it like this. Marv was a duck, both are my friends. We are all responsible for our actions and we can only blame ourselves for not playing if we don't.

So I'm playing, lynch hf if it makes you feel better but I'll get info while I can.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 16 2016 22:02 GMT
#363
Oh also whole thing probably would of been better worked out over mps so everyone has a little fault in this hosts included but it's not worth talk I,g about shrug
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 16 2016 22:09 GMT
#371
Just my reads town

Damdred
Rayn
Geript
Hf
Trfel
NM

Maybe town
've cause geript told,me so
Asm

These are my git and leaves a lot of room
Damdred
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January 16 2016 22:16 GMT
#376
On January 17 2016 07:14 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
I think it's 2 it was a postvrestriction game I was in.

Town Ritoky generally takes responsibility and pushes what he thinks. I don't even really know of there is much reason exactly for rot to town 've here besides just someone to,sheep for sheep sake


Besides that there were other things in the other game as well I agree. Like I agree town motivated side is town looks for someone to sheep they trust and does so. But there's also rayn and his soul read buddy me in here, so do you think 've deserved that type of sleeping at this poibt?


Okay, so this is basically a meta-related argument you are making against ritoky. I wasn't aware of the relationship/knowledge/whatever you want to call it between him and rayn, but I am aware of it between you and him. That's making some sense - I honestly don't know enough to figure out how much stock he should or shouldn't be putting into who he's sheeping and how much, I know he said he had a positive read sometime back on VE in Fullmetal but he was mafia in Fullmetal. IDK.

But your argument is making sense....still don't think at this time it's enough to make ritoky top lynch though.


Honestly I don't know that I want to lynch him to say as I do think if he starts scrapping town rainbows he's an asset.

The other nonprescenses in the thread worry me a bit,more. Don't you think?
Damdred
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January 16 2016 22:36 GMT
#389
I think ceph is probably town from this. If try trfel or hf flip scum I think he's a bit more suspect. Bit I don't see this kind of pressure/activity in what amounts to a largely inactive game coming from scum with town up for lynch hmmm
Damdred
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January 16 2016 23:31 GMT
#437
Nm is probably town, tell me who to lynch and I'll follow you because idc about eod
Damdred
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January 16 2016 23:35 GMT
#441
It is how he reading the thread seeking interactions and looking from different angles to get to a food conclusion. He has a super town mindset and is trying to be a town hero. Also his approach is balanced even if he comes to conclusions I somewhat disagree with.
Damdred
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January 17 2016 00:23 GMT
#502
I'm surprised I wasn't modkillled hrmph
Damdred
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January 17 2016 00:49 GMT
#507
For someone who yells and complains about how shitty games are here with players who don't care. Doing something as shitty as this and turning an invite game into a total war zone is horrible.

Hf idk what the point was baiting rayn but it's whatever.

The game is unpleasant I should of been mod killed didn't even get a warning so I guess I'm confirmed town at least
Damdred
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January 17 2016 14:44 GMT
#527
Good morning another 18 hour shift at least I should have a small amount of mafia time now to work
Damdred
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January 17 2016 15:27 GMT
#528
DYH could you explain your tr on Trfel in greater detail?
Damdred
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January 17 2016 17:27 GMT
#530
Well I'm going to get to work on maybe a vca or at least a Poe list I was hoping that Trfel, dyh would show up.

I sorta think someone up for lynch has to be scum in this situation.
Damdred
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January 17 2016 18:47 GMT
#532
Trfel after you and rayn talked and you tried to swing the convo to nm. When did you really start town reading hf? And why?
Damdred
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January 17 2016 18:56 GMT
#534
I actually found something fun in trfels filter hf
Damdred
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January 17 2016 19:07 GMT
#536
Scum reads you continuously throughout d1 basically. After arguing with rayn says they aren't sure about you anymore and soon afterwards talks to you like you are confirmed town.

The vote on palmar is based on crummy reasoning as well I think by him.
Damdred
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January 17 2016 19:20 GMT
#538
You filter says otherwise trfel

You scum read hf
We talk
You still read him scum
We talk more
You want to check his filter bit still,think,it's scum motivated
You argue with rayn
Say you are unsure about hf either way
Then say to hf let's ignore rayn and lynch mafia (implies townread)
Then later you say you think hf is town.

So what changed from talking to rayn to that town read or even from talking to me to being unsure to saying tr.
Damdred
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January 17 2016 19:43 GMT
#540
Take me through voting palmar
Damdred
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January 17 2016 19:57 GMT
#543
Last question,

Why trust say ve over say your tr in rayn? Obviously he's scuming you and hf. And it seems a couple people find nm to be an alternative
Damdred
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January 17 2016 20:12 GMT
#545
Well what do you think of dyh? Do you think his tr on you is good coming from his position?
Damdred
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January 17 2016 20:34 GMT
#547
I actually think you could be right about ceph perhaps.

But who else nm and?
Damdred
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January 17 2016 21:20 GMT
#556
My initial read/gut feeling is he is town but there's limited things to go on.

@Ace if I can finish what I was working on I thought about it but people say give you a bit of time to develop which I'm happy to do until tommorow at least.
Damdred
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January 17 2016 23:05 GMT
#562
Well one thing hf I was going to comment on the case but then you sort of say it's not as valid.

Which just reading a lot around the lynch was interesting (or leading up to and then after) his filter was more about defending himself than being interested in the lynch or pushing his prefered lynch.

Like if it was hf vs trfel he was ok with either which is fine. But as far as I can tell 0 opinion on palmar(fact checking required) and he never really pushes his prefered lynch.

Also just in general on ace I do sort of town read him now for shitty reasons
Damdred
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January 17 2016 23:22 GMT
#564
On January 17 2016 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
A lot so much is mafia.

1. Says rayn has rayn logic and it's not bad but decides to go against rayn's case and still call me town. TMI.

2. Says trfel looked bad but then says trfel looks a lot more towny but still votes trfel.

3. Says that case from rayn on trfel always existed and that's why he was voting trfel but doesn't make sense just after he says trfel looks more towny.

4. Says votes on me and trfel are a good 2 wagons...? Even though he started to tr trfel and has always tr me.

5. Says votes on me good because I'm scummy but for no reasons.

6. Asks why I haven't backed down on trfel so trefl looks good after flip but I've never been on trfel.


Aka convenient tmi in posts (to tr rayn, me), surface level (no reasons whatsoever) to scum read people, and no logical progression other than opportune wanting to be on current wagons.



So I can at least talk with you in case

1) I don't think this point is mafia indicative. I did about the same thing thought it looked like town rayn but called you town. I think both alignments could do this.

2) I like this point, very little re-evaluation as time went with illogical leaps.

4) I like this point

Overall I think most of the points besides one are really good. And I think my thoughts mirror it pretty well.

I'd probably sheep,this.
Damdred
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January 17 2016 23:52 GMT
#565
In case I die though which I hope not I'm enjoying myself and actually reading filters when I usually don't

Asm is a good starting place for tommorow, look at him closely. I've said things hf case is great also.

Ceph is also worth a look, his push on asm looks pretty towny to a degree. But he abandoned almost any interaction with the rest of the thread to try to convince asm he's scum to a point. Also his town read on trfel should be pushed.

The last scum read I have is somewhere in the dyh (trfel town read without explanation lack of some content) and nm ( I have a somewhat towny feel but inability to try to push the lunch he wants through bothered me or even take part in night time reminds me of his scum game)

Rest of people I generally tr but don't be dumb and just follow this.
Damdred
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January 18 2016 00:03 GMT
#572
Trfel did pretty sure
Damdred
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January 18 2016 00:04 GMT
#573
Also I'd rather be bad than an asshat who is going around insulting the only people who give a shit about playing
Damdred
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January 18 2016 00:10 GMT
#578
I spent all day interacting and trying to form reads and actually playing and you came in to just call me bad lol.

Look in the mirror before you talk trash
Damdred
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January 18 2016 00:12 GMT
#580
Actually you know what not worth it.

I'll go be bad and not play this game. Toodles till later
Damdred
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January 18 2016 00:57 GMT
#613
On January 18 2016 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
Who in this game kills ace?

I think only rayn and ve.


Maybe geript but that implies he's paying attention


Maybe Ritoky he loves blue hunting though idk if he can read ace
Damdred
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January 18 2016 00:59 GMT
#614
I don't think you would of been lynched today trfel. You softed super hard at night.

Maybe my trfel reading is getting better at least
Damdred
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January 18 2016 01:07 GMT
#618
On January 18 2016 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 09:59 Damdred wrote:
I don't think you would of been lynched today trfel. You softed super hard at night.

Maybe my trfel reading is getting better at least
To be honest, that was why I didn't directly ask you about NocturneMage. In retrospect that was probably not the best decision, I was probably already caught or wasn't going to be.

What was it that I did? Just trying to figure things out, or did I slip?


When I was questioning you to shore up my read you basically told me to stop and talk about someone else.

To me it's a clear indication you weren't scared of the vig and had a trump card
Damdred
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January 18 2016 01:44 GMT
#634
This is dumb, really dumb
Damdred
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January 18 2016 02:30 GMT
#641
I hate this I was really looking forward to this game and I really wanted to play with ace meh
Damdred
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January 18 2016 02:35 GMT
#644
Why not a lot since you were sure he was scum
Damdred
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January 18 2016 14:42 GMT
#684
I called 2/3 of the mafia.

my reads weren't horrible and I almost even called ritoky out. God dangit -_-.

Also alot this really isn't how games normally go here to some extent.
Damdred
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January 18 2016 14:53 GMT
#692
The last invite game I was in was fun. And before the rwroll this one would of been good I think.

Idk what happened hf tried to get under rayns skin, rayn took it out on the game. We lynched palmar

It was sadness
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