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ritoky
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On December 30 2015 08:32 Holyflare wrote: Son you're talking to the person that hammered mafia before you switched to your not mafia read after he made terrible posts. yes because saying shoot only x person is a sound strategy with a living roleblocker in the game, much sense, such wow. | ||
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On December 30 2015 08:43 Tictock wrote: Saying miller was stupid, but I'm blue not red so stuff it. Lynch me if you need to, but Onegu is 100% mafia. so you're a blue who didn't claim in the face of impending lynch, then claimed miller, then retracted, then claimed blue after being red checked? | ||
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ritoky
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On December 30 2015 08:49 Tictock wrote: Fine I'm gunsmith. I hate claims. Lynch me to prove it I can't pass out anymore guns after this either way. "I gave a gun to ritoky because..." finish the claim if you're gonna do it. | ||
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who can be rb'd and not refunded according to op | ||
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On December 30 2015 13:33 ObviousOne wrote: and finally regarding moosy and his also-suidical level of play i say we have someone with a gun shoot him or we just pretend he doesn't exist. it's dawning on my how many people are giving so few fucks in a non-banlist game, the last time i was in this scenario was a caller game where everyone had guns. Can you post some reads you feel strongly about? Even if they are TRs. I would like something that isn't maybe this, maybe that. Why would you prefer an afk be shot instead of someone who you scum read? And why moosy over BF/slam/ness anything in particular distinguish 1 of the unengaged over the other? | ||
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ritoky
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On December 30 2015 18:11 ExO_ wrote: For the most part. If I understand correctly: Mafia has 2 kills, and then a 2 shot vig. Which explains the 3 deaths. Onegu is claiming a red check on TT, with no counter claim so far. I'm inclined to believe him b/c of the post TT made with the popcorn. I think TT is scum. Artanis and Rayn were both convinced Palmar was scum. And I tend to agree. I'm in favor of lynching Palmar today for this reason: This means that if somebody CC's Onegu's claim we're not having last minute vote shenanigans again. If nothing changes in regards to TT then I think one of our gunsmith's shoot him. I think I need to go really closely read how the vote switching happened. Who switched. Why they said they switched. I think some clues are there. And I think Artanis/rayn's filter should be read closely as well. Why do you prefer a lynch on a scum read (to which there is a level of uncertainty) versus a player who is red checked by an uncc'd cop and CC'd for the role he claimed (which seems far more definitive)? What's the difference between lynching TT and shooting palmar and why is the opposite preferable? | ||
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On December 30 2015 18:21 ExO_ wrote: Because rayn/Artanis both felt strongly about Palmar. I think Palmar is regarded well enough to have more influence on the game, and possibly talk his way out of this. TT isn't making it to the end of this game regardless, Palmar might find a way to talk his way out of it. I think Palmar is scum, and I don't want to give him a chance to slip by. If possible I'd like to avoid voting Shenanigans at the end of the day today, and one way I could see that happening is somebody CCing onegu and then we end up lynching the wrong person again. I can't see a world in which somebody would CC onegu, and claim they got a green check on Palmar, it would look to obviously wrong. So if we lynch Palmar, shoot TT we get the most amount of scum, with the least amount of risk. I am having trouble grasping this. It's been nearly half a day and almost every player has been to the thread and posted at least once; so the # of people who a CC to onegu could come from is extremely limited. Further if someone CC's onegu in the final hours, it is just awful play....like really bad; but beyond that it doesn't explain TT getting CC'd on top of the red check by damdred. On top of that TT not claiming GS under impending lynch yesterday makes no sense at all. He will claim under red check but not under imminent death? What? It would take one helluva last minute CC to cause shenanies. Plus as of now I am shooting palmar which was what rayn and i had been saying all night before checks and cc's happened. | ||
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ritoky
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I am having a hard time understanding how you think that is a much more real threat/world than just a cop has a red check on a guy, he got cc'd, his play doesn't make much sense with his claim, and he has kinda rolled over so we should lynch him; which is a lot of definitive information. Then we just shoot palmar and ride off into the sunset looking like badasses, | ||
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ritoky
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updated: tt palmar kush -> (shining) BF gb or ness slam/moosy (vivax*) | ||
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![[image loading]](http://www.demotivation.us/media/demotivators/demotivation.us_BADASS-A-badass-does-not-try-to-be-a-badass-or-look-tough.-A-badass-simply-is-a-badass_140659755318.jpg) how do you do it? | ||
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ritoky
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On December 30 2015 19:00 sicklucker wrote: ritoky never say who your gonna shoot it lets mafia play you perfectly.. If palmers town they rb/kill dandred and let you kill town. If palmers mafia they rb you Your no longer allowed to shoot palmar you fucked up sorry bud we can just lynch him and if they rb me another gun gets distributed and if they don't shoot me and i mind game them and hold my shot 2 guns are in play and they fucked up and if i say i am shooting palmar all phase then shoot someone else on my list and blow their minds 2 can play these wifom games. | ||
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On December 30 2015 19:16 The Shining wrote: I don't understand how kush being scum makes me scum when I'm suspicious of him and willing to lynch him and he apparently doesn't like me either. Same with TT and Ness being scum together, when Ness was like the only person TT wanted to lynch D1. And I couldn't decide between the 2 of them. Unless you think the majority of the scum team is just soft-pushing eachother? On December 29 2015 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah , the bolded is completely true, but the fact is he is not caring if he is town either, so he is just a fucking coinflip and the best vigi shot. 100%. I agree on OO. I think the way and the confidence he went on with HF makes more sense from town perspective than it makes from mafia. The thing with kush is -- he isn't really trying to find scum. It's like... ugh.. a meta thing where he just fucking disagrees with me for the sake of disagreeing based NOT on the argument, he isn't even trying to understand the argument.... It becomes even more likely he is scum if TT is town, as i said. Basically the only smart thing kush has said in this game is actually the shit he brought on Shining, which would (unfortunately for Shining) indicate that Shining is also mafia. kush has a tendency to ONLY make really good points on his scumbuddies when he is scum because he can't fabricate good looking reads on townies. When kush is town he sometimes actually plays really well, but here, when he ONLY calls one player mafia for REASONS -- after ~90 pages, it strongly indicates he is scum, and also that the player (Shining) is scum too. So yeah, i'd add Shining to the scumlist, especially when kush flips mafia. We should probably lynch him after Palmar and Vivax or only after Palmar if the Vivax issue is solved during the night. So like lynch: (Vivax) --> Palmar --> kush. Then look very very closely into shining and lynch shining/boxerfred (or both) Then lynch Ness if he continues doing what he has (or like... hasn't) Then look at Onegu/Koshi/Slam further.... Check TT to confirm his affiliation. That's what i suggest at the moment. as for GB or ness; rayn was far more firm in believing it was ness, i still hold my read that gb would have called ness dumb and not mafia when he did so i said it was gb, rayn didn't agree so i arrived at 1 between the 2. tt flipping red means more likely gb than ness but still probably 1 between the 2. also ness hasn't done shit in like 48 hrs so it's kinda hard to gauge who he was pushing and not pushing being that he wasn't around when it actually mattered. | ||
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