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On December 29 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch slam and shoot tt the night after or something or the other way around probably better HAHAHA SURE HF LET'S KEEP THAT GUY ALIVE FOR MORE TIME ROFL
Why not? I'm likely to keep posting and reading the game.
Besides you're being silly that HF and I could be on a team and he tried to get me killed during super last min shenanigans.
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On December 29 2015 08:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how I'm on both of Hf's lists.
Psst
They were the same list minus 2 people
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On December 29 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:First of all there is this: Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.
Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.
No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi
I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. This post is non-commital as hell. There is the read on Koshi that is never going to be warranted at this point of the game. There is just no way TT thinks Koshi is town here. No. Then the GB read. If TT thinks GB is town for his posting why does he feel the need to tell he doesn't necessarily actually think GB is town? It's like... he is in the both sides of his own argument... Let's see what he says about Ness and noonian then: Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 12:10 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 11:37 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.
Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.
No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi
I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. this. why lynch me or noonian? You kus you posted a bunch of questions to everyone but haven't really used peoples responses to further reads. Also these: On December 27 2015 11:11 N e s s wrote:And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad. He could be mafia, ![[image loading]](https://media0.giphy.com/media/k9XrZaAJuQyMU/200_s.gif) On December 27 2015 11:22 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 11:14 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/6e42219a5876ee6211266625f19c3353.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
 first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". ^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username. But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.) I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm. Much more important than who is town Who is Mafia? Choose one person with not much to go off of?
Sicklucker, just because.
That or whoever seems scummiest rn i don't care enough to do anything On December 27 2015 11:24 N e s s wrote:
*as to why sicklucker
his posts are annoying me. he's giving me a gut feeling of him being scum.
Butttt Ness! Isn't Glowbunny scummier?
Gb seems good. He was going after me, which seems alright. While others did too i don't think he's mafia atm. Noonian mostly kus of the smurf thing. Now the first thing TT says makes sense. But the quotes he bring up don't make any sense at all because he doesn't even explain what is scummy in them. I personally don't find anything scummy in them. TT townreads Exo himself, why does he bring up a quote where Ness calls Exo town? Why is it scummy Ness finds sicklucker most likely mafia? Why is it scummy that he townreads GB now? This chain of quotes --> Ness is mafia doesn't make any sense because the quotes are logical and there is no contradiction in them. Then he calls kush scum for the smurf thing when it has already been explained when and how kush blew his smurf, which makes this post.. Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 13:22 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta. its bad to go off of meta. It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion. Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart. What if he's changed his play style? But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on. Well here is where we disagree.. And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means. But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do. Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town. Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point? TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething). Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think. Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it Seems legit ... a very bad defense. Not only was he not reading the thread when he made the kush read, he is also not even trying to understand what happens in the thread at any point. Look at the defense, seriously, it is so stupid i can't even..... Another instance of this is this one: Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 10:04 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:18 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 14:15 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:12 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
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It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from Food for thought~ Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is? I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum. Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum? It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment. mmmm on the contrary that is invalid, i just said i didn't know the answer and just asked you. Did i not just ask you who you think is scum? That's me asking you a question trying to solve the game. It helps to know the opinions of others to know the insight to the game. please answer my question now. You know what RVS is but you couldn't that's exactly what moosy's was? I find hard to believe I find you being town hard to believe. Nobody's even told me why we were band wagoning Moose jesus christ. *sighs* Us arguing won't contribute to anything anyway, i'm done with you for now. I have bigger fish to fry then you, my friend c: You said I was town for the way I was pushing you. What changed? I am actually retracting from my townread on Ness. This is one thing. The other thing is he calls sicklucker mafia for "just because". Then he votes for Vivax?!?!?!? Than he says this... Bigger fish to fry? Like.... sicklucker who he has basically no read on and just calls scum? Or Vivax, who is basically a non-poster at that point? Pfft rayn I pointed that out forever ago, and btw yes I still do think Ness is scum Look at this post and what i say there in comparison to why TT called Ness mafia. Does it look like he "pointed out what i did before"????? Fucking no! First of all we are talking about completely different things (well i don't even know what TT is talking about because he is just quoting some posts and not explaining what there is there). He possibly cannot talk about same thing i do because what i am talking about happened mostly after TT had made his post about Ness!!!! Therefore it's literally impossible he is talking about the same thing i am (or that he thinks so) -- it's just fucking impossible he thinks so. So, again, this is just a half-assed try to defend himself based NOT on why he did what he did but instead due to some association to his posting that could possibly look similar (when it even doesn't -- and he fucking should know that). So yeah, there it is. Also go read ritoky's case. Here: + Show Spoiler +On December 28 2015 15:41 ritoky wrote:So basically TT made some bullshit read progression last game on a new player that he totally never makes as town. basically he made an awakward joke then randomly backed out of a town read over literal nothing and over-explained why he did so. He hasn't quite done that this game, but he has some elements going on. Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:51 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm mafia!
Lynch me
##Vote: GlowingBear Is nobody gunna discuss this obvious legit very real claim and self vote? Personally, I could try and get GB killed for 3 games in a row. Like is this a joke or is it serious? Normally I just assume this is 100% a joke, but GB is one of those assholes who would claim scum as scum or claim cop as cop just to dick around. He would also do both as VT for the same reason. So it very well could be him using some meta and taking it actually serious. And if it is not serious then it isn't really funny and it is a shitty joke...shitty jokes actually tend more toward scum. Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.
Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.
No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi
I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. Bold #1: Firstly I just disagree with this pretty strongly. Secondly, his eventual reason for this read is "you ask questions and then don't conclude things" (which btw after this post you don't really do either of those things) which is the most vague and gray goo accusation of a new player ever. It feels like you pulled it out of a box. Bold #2: This is the part that really blows my mind. Why the fuck koshi? Of all people, why koshi? I say this ENTIRELY because of the last game. To give you context: in nutcracker koshi opened the game with the literal exact same post basically and attempted to hold to it; after approximately 12 hours he crumbled and started spamming the thread (or the equiv of spamming in a post limit game). #1) If you're going to base your read off of koshi making the same play shouldn't you actually wait until a proper amount of time has passed for koshi to explode and fail at being quiet or succeed and then make your judgment from then on? #2) koshi had been fairly calm (for his standards) up until kinda recently where he posted some more which is the OPPOSITE of what happened in the last game. So I have a very hard time grasping this read, because I can only assume there is some meta behind it since koshi was nowhere near the most town in the thread from a play perspective. Like either you think koshi got better at being quiet and is town (in which case how the fuck did you make this read so fast?) or this read is manufactured. Bold #3: If the above was serious and based on meta (which to me this post kinda indicates it slightly was) then you backed out of a meta read about GB claiming scum super easy and at a time when I don't really think he deserved it in the slightest. In fact GB was pretty fucking scummy early and I think he still has a solid chance of flipping scum. Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 13:22 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta. its bad to go off of meta. It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion. Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart. What if he's changed his play style? But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on. Well here is where we disagree.. And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means. But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do. Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town. Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point? TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething). Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think. Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it Seems legit To me this part is weaker than the koshi part, but still scum indicative. Basically it is simple: he is not reading and doesn't care. Multiple points in the thread and the pages surrounding this, kush, rayn, and hf had all mentioned that kush was a smurf who admitted he was a smurf because he couldn't log on his original name from work. It is mentioned quite a few times, but TT agrees with the read made initially that kush = scum cuz admitting smurfing = nonsense. But he keeps standing by it in the face of facts. Facts that he hadn't read because he didn't care about making an informed read. It is only when I quote it for him a bit later that he says "oh". Also when your read goes from he admitted he was a smurf -> oh, nothing after 1 correction of facts....and it is your most prominent read; clearly he isn't interested in finding scum. Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 12:11 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 23:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ness is town because he asked this "can you see whos viewing thread" basicly hes asking if people can see if hes lurking or if he can see lurkers.
If hes mafia and he is worried about people seeing him lurk he would ask his mafia qt so this is not possible.
This only leaves the other option that he legitly wants to see if people are lurking.
I think this statement alone makes him town and alot of other people have reasons to think hes town so im sure he is.
The only other option is an intentional dumbtell which is very rare. I dont think a mafia would ask this ever due to being afraid of suspicion My only issue with this thinking is that it could just be a very legit, NAI, question he asked there and you are way overthinking it. I will admit that the nature of the question is more town indicative, but this wont really change my opinion by itself. Like this, he is just shitting on someone's town read, but even in shitting on it he is being wishy-washy about shitting on it. However after dumping on it he provides nothing of his own. No indication of direction or wanting people to get on board with him lynching Ness. He simply shits to shit. I don't see how posts like this push town in any positive direction. Like where are you trying to find scum? Where are you gathering information? Where are you showing you're reading the thread? Where are you trying to get people to understand your point of view? You're doing none of that, so you're probably just mafia. Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 12:19 Tictock wrote:On December 28 2015 00:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's.
I like my vote where it is atm. Ouch. Ouch is right. Currently I think TT is a better lynch than Vivax. Vivax is nibbling at the edges while actively reading which annoys me greatly and also engaging in riddles before gameplay which also frustrates me, but he has some LS in him....and that kinda makes me a pussy about it. ##unvote:
##vote: TickTock After, and aside those things that have been pointed out in his play, he hasn't done jack shit. There is not a single analysis on anything, people are just town for no reason, he doesn't care about what some people say, or he wants to lynch lurkers (and obviously the dude who is voting for him and has been cased with a bad case). There, now you can place your votes accordingly.
So this case by rayn is basically "I dont understand what TT is saying or doing and is thus scum"
The fact that this comes from Rayn should be fairly good evidence that I'm town.
+ Show Spoiler +Ok to semi respond:
Sure I can townread Koshi there, I did. GB read is the same thing people always push me on when I talk about reads I'm not sure on.
I posted 3 posts of Ness. One he flippantly writes off trying to read Exo with a gif trying to act like it's non of his buisness, saying he might be town or mafia.
He also gives a "just cause" read on Sl, then immediately backs it up with "reasons"
Those posts furthered the idea that he wasn't really trying to make reads on people or think about the game, and the post regarding Exo was just one example of him going "well maybe they are town or mafia, not my problem"
Rayn said he couldn't understand my reads post he quoted first here, yet he had the exact same reaction to Kush revieling his smurf that I did, and later questioned Ness for very similar things that I was seeing.
The shit about me not reading kus of Kush's smurf I already responded to and is just not true. I wouldn't sign up for a game I didn't intend to make some effort to read, and I would read things twice as carefully if I were scum. Just kus I don't see things or react to things the same as you do doesn't mean I'm not reading.
Rit's case was basically the same besides some bull that me disagreeing with a read is me "shitting on it"
But you guys are still welcome to lynch me tomorrow for the same stuff kus I'm unlikely to change how I'm playing this game. (this was prob a max lv effort post from me)
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On December 29 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HOW THE FUCK IS THERE A SINGLE THING I MISUNDERSTAND IN TT'S POSTING`?!?!?!
What the fuck are you talking about.
You didn't misunderstand, but rather than try to see what I might have been talking about you just attack me for not making sense.
It's cool, I expect that from you.
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On December 29 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote:Yup classic GB fake mafia anger. Not only are your points illogical (I couldn't have made Vivax claim, I said I don't really want to lynch Ness straight away after etc etc) but they are ones that you yourself FOLLOW IN SENTIMENT. Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons? This guy probably mafia too tbh. Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed? Let's look at this post as a classic example of a wtf he's mafia moment. GB is calling me out for: A) Being suspicious of Vivax which is weird as fuck because: Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote:
If you're town and know you're never going to read this game gtfo.
If you're mafia just wait until i lynch you thats okay too And now I agree with you HF, Vivax might be the best lynch today B) Being suspicious of TickTock: Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT. Let's do it ##Vote: Tictock C) Being suspicious of N E S S: Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 03:06 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
can we leave ness alone, I'm pretty sure he's town at this juncture Why is that? The only thing that is giving me pause to call him Mafia is that thing Sicklucker said. The early arguments I've brought on him + his reads not making much sense (calling me town, Mafia, then town again, and now suddenly calling Tictock and Exo Mafia out of the blue, especially when Exo looks pretty fownie to me) pretty much sells him out to me as scum. D) Being suspicious of Kush: -absent because GB has been afk for ages- So, what do we see here ladies and gentleman? Glowingbear is accusing me of calling all his mafia reads mafia and then using it to call me mafia. /case get rekt GB
This actually leads me to thinking GB is prob Town.
HF sounds like he agrees. So I think GB is lock town.
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On December 29 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
This has actually invigorated my passion to find the rest of his team, thank you GB.
Yea HF is prob mafia.
A lot of his posts have been more on the discrediting angle of things. Here he is talking like he's just proven GB is mafia when I'm pretty sure he just showed why GB is likely town.
He's also spent all game so for mostly focusing on inactive people and easy targets.
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On December 29 2015 03:48 ExO_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 28 2015 16:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
can we not lynch him off the fact that last game we lynched him and were wrong?
You know we should learn from history and such. He could be mafia or town but I would like to have some general idea what that is before we put one of are valuable lynches on the line
If you guys want a "real" reason why I dont want vivax lynch its because it was fucking hf's idea who I think is very likely scum I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say. On December 28 2015 16:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:17 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax? Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD I think i can read Vivax aswell. Why is he town then? you really think Vivax is a better lynch candidate than somebody like BF at this point? From the people who have posted, yes. I have to disagree. I get that I might not be able to make the same metareads as others here, but is Vivax really THAT scummy to this point? Everything that makes Vivax scummy (low post count, not contributing a lot) BF is worse at. At least Vivax is somewhat active in the thread. People posting = more information. People like BF not posting do not add any information at all. Exo's a cool dude. Def keep him alive. Re-looking at TT's filter, these posts were back-back. He tells SL that he missed Vivax as mafia in the previous game, implying that Vivax could be a mafia sliding by this game, but then says to keep me around for not wanting to get rid of Vivax? It doesn't make sense. Am I misreading it or? Either way I think I might be more inclined to go back to TT
Misreading. Post about you doesn't really have anything to do with Vivax. Was more how you were forming an opinion there rather than how you were reading Vivax or BF for that matter.
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Kinda out of time tonight, almost caught up with what I skipped before maybe 2-3 pages shy.
I'm thinking there is a strong chance that mafia are going for a "shit-up-the-thread" strategy to create a lot of terrible content and bickering to read through. Problem is that I'm sure there are at least a couple of town participating in it as well.
Hopefully nightkills and actions will help clear some things up.
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On December 29 2015 10:47 ExO_ wrote:
....I took a nap thinking TT was a lynch lock. WTF happened? This is some bullshit.
Fucking great job whoever turned the wagon off TT
Rels did a great job, he deserves a medal.
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On December 29 2015 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
Um what an earth are you actually talking about? Why does that post scream that GB is town to you? I'm literally stating in that post that GB has the same scum reads as me but he's calling me mafia but somehow your take away from the post is that I'm mafia for going after afkers.
If you think GB is town and he has the same scum reads then why am I mafia for having those scum reads? How does that post not constitute a case instead of "discrediting"? I think/still think it's good.
It screams GB townthinking to me. And your tone was more "haha, proved you wrong GB!" not "Fuck you are so scum GB!" which made me think you kinda know he is town but had something solid to push.
Tbh the rest of that interaction between you two has me scratching my head a lot more than the start of it.
I'm also probably not giving you a fair read, but my gut doesn't like a lot of what it's seen.
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On December 29 2015 11:35 nooniansoong wrote:
Scumlist. Tomorrow I'm going to read some of these filters.
3. Onegu
5. sicklucker
7. damdred
8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne)
9. Exo_
10. Koshi
11. Ritoky
13. Mooseeeeeeeeydooseeeeeey
14. Boxerfred
17. Trfel
18. ObiWanShinobi
19. The Shining
20. Palmar
21. Tictock
22. n e s s
24. Alakaslam
I thought I was probably town in your eyes.
What changed?
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On December 29 2015 11:47 Holyflare wrote:
Answer my post on the last page please.
Also you're the person with the most information on what happened at the deadline so can you please explain or look at it?
My interpritation was that Rels said he's basically read the game but gave no opinions and sheeped Rayn. Which is pretty shit play from Rels and I never really saw him give explanations for him not being here.
So I suggested we switch to Rels as a last ditch effort to not die and since nobody wanted to lynch Ness.
Apparently enough people agreed (Damdred said the stuff about Rels better than I btw) and thus things happened.
You swapped back to me rather suddenly, but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative since it was Town v Town.
Before that everyone was just fine lynching me.
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On December 27 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 11:07 nooniansoong wrote:
@exo don't get mad. Just try to find scum and answer any questions people ask you.
If we lynch you and you're town, that's our problem not yours. No. Its actually his problem. Abd by blowing your smurf you earned my vote. Shit. Cheap. Crap. Die. Kush hasn't revealed anything, he has already said his smurf name pre-game in the Newbie game:
Came after I posted that first reads post.
When I responded with this later, it was to explain where my reads came from.
On December 27 2015 12:10 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:37 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.
Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.
No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi
I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. this. why lynch me or noonian? You kus you posted a bunch of questions to everyone but haven't really used peoples responses to further reads. Also these: Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:11 N e s s wrote:And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad. He could be mafia, Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:22 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 11:14 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". ^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username. But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.) I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm. Much more important than who is town Who is Mafia? Choose one person with not much to go off of?
Sicklucker, just because.
That or whoever seems scummiest rn i don't care enough to do anything Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:24 N e s s wrote:
*as to why sicklucker
his posts are annoying me. he's giving me a gut feeling of him being scum.
Butttt Ness! Isn't Glowbunny scummier?
Gb seems good. He was going after me, which seems alright. While others did too i don't think he's mafia atm. Noonian mostly kus of the smurf thing.
So yes my reaction was more or less the same as yours untill that information was availible.
On December 27 2015 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:07 nooniansoong wrote:
@exo don't get mad. Just try to find scum and answer any questions people ask you.
If we lynch you and you're town, that's our problem not yours. No. Its actually his problem. Abd by blowing your smurf you earned my vote. Shit. Cheap. Crap. Die.
And yes, the same shit you were questioning Ness about is why I posted those 2 quotes Ness made about SL. No it was not 100% exactly the same thing, but honestly it seems to me like we were picking up on the same shit from him. Like 3/5 of the points you made in that post can be traced back to the posts I quoted when I said "these are what I'm scum reading you for"
I don't really care if believe me, but from my perspective we've actually had very similar trains of thought regarding both Kush and Ness. So I think it's stupid that you scum read me for those reads.
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On December 29 2015 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And we should fucking murder Vivax straight up. Just fucking lynch him. He is either jailkeeper or he is mafia, there is no other option. If he does not die during the night we lynch him, period.
There is more than black and white rayn.
If there wasn't these games would be boring as fuck.
I never understand why you have to think in absolutes.
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On December 29 2015 17:03 ritoky wrote:
yo TT, can you give a read on every single person who switched to save you. thanx gurl.
Holy shit, what do I look like? A guy who's trying here?
I'll do it before EoN but you better be happy with w/e you get.
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On December 29 2015 17:04 ritoky wrote:
so that list is: ritoky, koshi, palmar, SL, trfel, rsoul, shining, damdred
Oh wait this is easy
Rit - 70% chance of being town
Koshi - 80%, though tbf I have no idea what Koshi is like as Scum so he shouldn't get a pass
palmar - humm 75%
SL - 52%, something about the way he's been pushing things D1 felt off to me. Like there was no clear focus but a lot of this "lets lynch someone unreadable, but X and Y person get 2 free days" talk. Idk felt a little off.
trfel - gut says Town but I might be slightly buddied kus of a few things
Rsoul - Honestly no clue
Shining - I think town, I doubt the whole "I'm unsure of TT kus he's voting my main scumread" thing comes from mafia not really on my radar though
Damdred - town 99%, I see a lot of towntells plus very similar attitude to last game.
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On December 29 2015 17:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh okay i understand the kush thing now. You should have said that earlier, i didn't think you were explaining your earlier reasoning and not saying like "i still think kush is mafia"... Let me look for something real quick...
I thought I did.
Meh.
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On December 29 2015 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way Palmar does neither of:
(1) stay on TicTock when having claimed to sheep me
(2) vote Vivax after unclaim
..as town.
There is just no way and it makes Palmar 100% mafia.
Is part of this meta?
Kus I'm not sure why he couldn't just be agreeing with some of the stuff people were posting and realized he had only enough time to change vote and not really post in game ( I should prob look at EoD again though)
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On December 29 2015 17:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 17:19 ritoky wrote:
coag is mason with rsoul rayn that's why you didn't read anything he typed. meh you blew it..... did you see tictock saying "i have no idea what rsoultin's alignment is". ugh this is so fucking annoying... i like want to believe TT is town because it makes the shit a lot easier but i fucking can't when he again proves he is not reading the thread....
Lol why does me not having a clue about Rsoul's alignment mean I'm not reading?
I've played... one game with her I think?
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