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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
December 17 2015 01:12 GMT
#801
On December 17 2015 09:58 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 09:45 Shapelog wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:36 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 08:02 Shapelog wrote:
Welp, That happen.


That's funny shit.

I'm going to admit I don't really understand much of your big list post. Why do LS and Damdred have to be on the same team? Why can't they be budding the other? You seem to tie them together but you have Damdred more towny than LS. I feel the opposite. I think LS has added more thought to the game. The only thing Damdred did I think is towny is scum Rels and that's probably just because Rels cased him. Can you more explain your town read on Damdred?

The rest of your associative reads, seems they all preclude that every shitfight 2 players have here are town vs mafia. I read this post and thought you don't think town fights town. That's not true is it?


I'm starting to rethink my position on damdred. Earlier on in the EoD, i posted it didn't make much sense if he was mafia and the wagons were both town to do it. Why draw the attention onto himself? But i'm starting to see what Koshius and other people are saying about him. I will look at him in Dark tournament and compare his town game from that to here.

And no town does fight town time to time (Should know from TT and Vobby wagons from Haunted mansion). Thanks for bringing this up. I ponder about it with kush. Like it can see it from both sides of the flip. Idk, i just posted that I won't be tunneling the mafia vs town stuff on him for the time being,

You been quiet btw. Go any ideas about anything? list, scums teams, anything?


My last list post I posted before going to bed 10 hours ago is essentially unchanged. Rels is now lower. Ritoky I should put in green but to be funny I'd keep him lower than Koshi because he didn't use Caps Lock or even held his shift key like a real baller.

So uh apparently you missed my last couple of posts.


Yeah i did miss it. Just looked into your filter and found #719 (your list). I remember seeing the case about you made against Rels now. I didn't really paid attention once it got to the town/mafia meta Rels part, since i'm not the one who should make/back up a meta case. And decided to come back to it later and keep pushing/tunneling. Will add Rels filter from dark tournament also to my read list tonight. I read the post now, But i going to reread what he said during the time he called you scum.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
December 17 2015 01:17 GMT
#802
On December 17 2015 10:02 kushm4sta wrote:
hi shape. Anyone who thinks about the game in the shower is definitely town haha.
It's not self-pity it's just blatant honesty.


"One that masturbate in the shower, is either single or a master at sex. My Girlfriend said the latter about my masturbation." -Shapanders
But to be honest I think about this game more then you might think. I've gone threw like 20 pieces of paper writing down how i felt about my conspiracy theories at work/in the mornings. So they aren't half assed. Also I'm going to take your word that it's honesty, at least for now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 17 2015 01:25 GMT
#803
On December 17 2015 10:08 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 10:05 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 10:02 kushm4sta wrote:
hi shape. Anyone who thinks about the game in the shower is definitely town haha.
It's not self-pity it's just blatant honesty.


Who is on your radar? Is there anyone you are thinking about/interested in?


nope. everyone i've looked into has been town. I'm going to try to figure out which filter to close read next. Any suggestions?


I'm having trouble reading Shape. And apparently I'm getting him and GiygaS mixed up. I haven't investigated TicTock much outside cursory. Any of those three I guess?

I'm tempted to ask you about Onegu since you are both old timers. but I really respect how Onegu is trying to change his game/meta so I probably won't actually listen to anything anyone says about him. The rest I'm happy with either waiting to see or already decided on.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
December 17 2015 01:26 GMT
#804
^follow up.
One how the hell did i get masturbation from shower? Too many good times i guess idk.
Two: Do not think my actively is actually any alignment indicating for me. Would of been the same activeness roughly if I rolled mafia. Except maybe a bit thought out and better fleshed posts since i had a team to relay things. But then i prob. post dumb, dull, crap time to time because they weren't on lol.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 01:29 GMT
#805
Just read through LS. Not good.

I don't see anything remotely townie in his entire filter.
0 real scum reads.
A lot of talking about past games which is a common respite for scum.
His only real content post:
On December 16 2015 22:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 22:13 Tubesock wrote:
LS what do you think so far of the game? It's been awhile since you've given reads.

Town:
Me: Duh I know my alignment
Koshi: Meta says Koshi town with complaints and thinking.
Onegu: Even though more serious he is going through a tunnel but he at least tried to explain himself.
Damdred: Even though people questioning him I still can see him town just because he did try to get a read off me although through jokes and tried to steer the lynch away from kush/gb to Vivax. Granted he did it on a to short of a notice.
ritoky: He did try to do more work than i remember but still he seems pretty townie with his posts.
GiygaS: He seem to be thinking critically of this game his content is decent but also tried defend me.
kush: EoD says he prob town due to shannies but otherwise I don't really care for him though
Tubesock(you): Even though a small filter I do see some of your content and is okay just want you to be posting more.
Shapelog:I do remember liking his content earlier but will review later.
Null:
Rels: I don't think he retreated his case on anyone that quickly especially my last game with him when he went full out on DoYouHas. But some of his posts giving me a pause.
Scum:
Vivax: Not doing jack shit which is something I don't think I had seen from him as town.

Lots of vague reads.
I'm town because of "shannies at eod"..dunno what the logic might be behind that.
Vivax scum because he is doing jack shit..ok but a very easy, lazy read.

Anyone townreading him or got some meta they want to explain?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 17 2015 01:33 GMT
#806
On December 17 2015 10:12 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 09:58 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:45 Shapelog wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:36 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 08:02 Shapelog wrote:
Welp, That happen.


That's funny shit.

I'm going to admit I don't really understand much of your big list post. Why do LS and Damdred have to be on the same team? Why can't they be budding the other? You seem to tie them together but you have Damdred more towny than LS. I feel the opposite. I think LS has added more thought to the game. The only thing Damdred did I think is towny is scum Rels and that's probably just because Rels cased him. Can you more explain your town read on Damdred?

The rest of your associative reads, seems they all preclude that every shitfight 2 players have here are town vs mafia. I read this post and thought you don't think town fights town. That's not true is it?


I'm starting to rethink my position on damdred. Earlier on in the EoD, i posted it didn't make much sense if he was mafia and the wagons were both town to do it. Why draw the attention onto himself? But i'm starting to see what Koshius and other people are saying about him. I will look at him in Dark tournament and compare his town game from that to here.

And no town does fight town time to time (Should know from TT and Vobby wagons from Haunted mansion). Thanks for bringing this up. I ponder about it with kush. Like it can see it from both sides of the flip. Idk, i just posted that I won't be tunneling the mafia vs town stuff on him for the time being,

You been quiet btw. Go any ideas about anything? list, scums teams, anything?


My last list post I posted before going to bed 10 hours ago is essentially unchanged. Rels is now lower. Ritoky I should put in green but to be funny I'd keep him lower than Koshi because he didn't use Caps Lock or even held his shift key like a real baller.

So uh apparently you missed my last couple of posts.


Yeah i did miss it. Just looked into your filter and found #719 (your list). I remember seeing the case about you made against Rels now. I didn't really paid attention once it got to the town/mafia meta Rels part, since i'm not the one who should make/back up a meta case. And decided to come back to it later and keep pushing/tunneling. Will add Rels filter from dark tournament also to my read list tonight. I read the post now, But i going to reread what he said during the time he called you scum.


My town/mafiaRels isn't really all that about meta. I mean it IS but it's not like necessarily Rels specific. Hard to explain. I've seen Rels in like 3 games. He was try hard and forceful in all, both as mafia and town. I respect his play, I think he's a strong player. It's not a meta read where it's like "Well, X person uses 15 smiley faces per paragraph, and this game she's doing 5" It's more like mafia Rels doesn't HAVE to go after it all the time. But town Rels basically does.

In any case, disregard the meta bit. Do you think he's solving the game or attacking easy targets or only people who look at him? We can argue the semantics if Damdred is an easy target or not later. I'm even willing to concede Damdred is no easy target. My point still stands.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 17 2015 01:37 GMT
#807
Day 2 Vote Count


Damdred (1): Koshi

Not voted (10): GigyaS, Rels, Tubesock, Vivax, Sukrit, kushm4sta, Damdred, Shapelog, Tictock, LightningStrike

The Stahlbaums will exterminate Damdred tonight.
Day 2 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 17 2015 01:47 GMT
#808
On December 17 2015 10:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Just read through LS. Not good.

I don't see anything remotely townie in his entire filter.
0 real scum reads.
A lot of talking about past games which is a common respite for scum.
His only real content post:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 22:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 16 2015 22:13 Tubesock wrote:
LS what do you think so far of the game? It's been awhile since you've given reads.

Town:
Me: Duh I know my alignment
Koshi: Meta says Koshi town with complaints and thinking.
Onegu: Even though more serious he is going through a tunnel but he at least tried to explain himself.
Damdred: Even though people questioning him I still can see him town just because he did try to get a read off me although through jokes and tried to steer the lynch away from kush/gb to Vivax. Granted he did it on a to short of a notice.
ritoky: He did try to do more work than i remember but still he seems pretty townie with his posts.
GiygaS: He seem to be thinking critically of this game his content is decent but also tried defend me.
kush: EoD says he prob town due to shannies but otherwise I don't really care for him though
Tubesock(you): Even though a small filter I do see some of your content and is okay just want you to be posting more.
Shapelog:I do remember liking his content earlier but will review later.
Null:
Rels: I don't think he retreated his case on anyone that quickly especially my last game with him when he went full out on DoYouHas. But some of his posts giving me a pause.
Scum:
Vivax: Not doing jack shit which is something I don't think I had seen from him as town.

Lots of vague reads.
I'm town because of "shannies at eod"..dunno what the logic might be behind that.
Vivax scum because he is doing jack shit..ok but a very easy, lazy read.

Anyone townreading him or got some meta they want to explain?

Fight me when I get home. I don't feel like posting with my phone.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 02:24 GMT
#809
I don't want to fight you bro. I'm not sure you're town is all. Damdred town read you so you are probably just a low content poster?
Why should I read you as town?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 02:36 GMT
#810
Damdred town and seems to have gotten a lot better since I last played with him.
"Give me three filters and I will find you scum between them". Cockiness that reads town. Also there's a lot of honesty about his lack of activity but still a desire to help.

His scumread on rels is for really good reasons. I have to read rels filter to see if I agree though.

His approach to eod was pragmatic and pro town.

Caveat is Damdred does play awesome scum from what I rmember. He fooled me really badly once.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 17 2015 02:47 GMT
#811
Gonna finish reading filters at lunch tomorrow. Sukrit, vivax, rels, tubesoxk.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 17 2015 03:01 GMT
#812
On December 17 2015 11:24 kushm4sta wrote:
I don't want to fight you bro. I'm not sure you're town is all. Damdred town read you so you are probably just a low content poster?
Why should I read you as town?

Because I actually trying to solve the game? That NK was rather odd though because people weren't exactly been sold that he was town yet he died. That kill probably just pure WIFOM.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 17 2015 03:04 GMT
#813
Vivax as a player if I remember correctly been more content and accuses everyone being mafia.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
December 17 2015 03:16 GMT
#814
On December 17 2015 10:33 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 10:12 Shapelog wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:58 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:45 Shapelog wrote:
On December 17 2015 09:36 Tubesock wrote:
On December 17 2015 08:02 Shapelog wrote:
Welp, That happen.


That's funny shit.

I'm going to admit I don't really understand much of your big list post. Why do LS and Damdred have to be on the same team? Why can't they be budding the other? You seem to tie them together but you have Damdred more towny than LS. I feel the opposite. I think LS has added more thought to the game. The only thing Damdred did I think is towny is scum Rels and that's probably just because Rels cased him. Can you more explain your town read on Damdred?

The rest of your associative reads, seems they all preclude that every shitfight 2 players have here are town vs mafia. I read this post and thought you don't think town fights town. That's not true is it?


I'm starting to rethink my position on damdred. Earlier on in the EoD, i posted it didn't make much sense if he was mafia and the wagons were both town to do it. Why draw the attention onto himself? But i'm starting to see what Koshius and other people are saying about him. I will look at him in Dark tournament and compare his town game from that to here.

And no town does fight town time to time (Should know from TT and Vobby wagons from Haunted mansion). Thanks for bringing this up. I ponder about it with kush. Like it can see it from both sides of the flip. Idk, i just posted that I won't be tunneling the mafia vs town stuff on him for the time being,

You been quiet btw. Go any ideas about anything? list, scums teams, anything?


My last list post I posted before going to bed 10 hours ago is essentially unchanged. Rels is now lower. Ritoky I should put in green but to be funny I'd keep him lower than Koshi because he didn't use Caps Lock or even held his shift key like a real baller.

So uh apparently you missed my last couple of posts.


Yeah i did miss it. Just looked into your filter and found #719 (your list). I remember seeing the case about you made against Rels now. I didn't really paid attention once it got to the town/mafia meta Rels part, since i'm not the one who should make/back up a meta case. And decided to come back to it later and keep pushing/tunneling. Will add Rels filter from dark tournament also to my read list tonight. I read the post now, But i going to reread what he said during the time he called you scum.


My town/mafiaRels isn't really all that about meta. I mean it IS but it's not like necessarily Rels specific. Hard to explain. I've seen Rels in like 3 games. He was try hard and forceful in all, both as mafia and town. I respect his play, I think he's a strong player. It's not a meta read where it's like "Well, X person uses 15 smiley faces per paragraph, and this game she's doing 5" It's more like mafia Rels doesn't HAVE to go after it all the time. But town Rels basically does.

In any case, disregard the meta bit. Do you think he's solving the game or attacking easy targets or only people who look at him? We can argue the semantics if Damdred is an easy target or not later. I'm even willing to concede Damdred is no easy target. My point still stands.

I WANT TO SAY: IT TOOK ME TWO HOURS TO TYPE THIS. please excuse any and all curse words, Donald trump references, and hate from me. Thank you

To Tubsock, for putting me threw Hell:

Well his first real target is GiygaS Khan. Note this is before TT's post about him. He starts tunneling him hard. He did jump on LS really quickly. Almost like he was choosing him. I admit, Nothing from LS content was overly townie. But for Rels to jump on his post about the 5 page limit is total BS. "reading the thread"? What. did he see Koshi say he will do less and when LS jump on board he decide he wanted to lynch LS over Koshi? For the same thing? Weird.

On December 15 2015 07:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 03:55 Koshi wrote:
On December 15 2015 03:16 GiygaS wrote:
Welcome to mafia, where everybody gets peeved with how their name is spelled

Is this referring to the fact Kush doesn't like that people type "kus" when they should type cause? Because like the above bolded part, it is mafia who generally skim the thread looking for something to say and then misinterpret something unimportant (to the game). I seen it happen a lot.

##unvote
##vote: GiygaS

This is brillant.

On December 15 2015 18:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 15:35 GiygaS wrote:
Still looking over everyone, but I'm sort of stuck on rels. Like I just don't understand his play coming from an experienced player (at least I presume he is based on posts). Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS. Like look at this post:

On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote:
I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier.

Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

Here is his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike

It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads.

I think this guy is scum.
##Vote LightningStrike


There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him.

It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about.

Here is the content LS produced between my question and my accution in those 9 hours, excluding the posts that answer to me:
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On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:52 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


this is a very bad post. clearly reading the thread, clearly hyper aware of the post limit, has a motive for not posting frequently; yet in his hello senpai post he elects to give no content of his own and simply defers all content to damdred. i noticed you, even if no one else did.

I gave a read in that post plus asking Damdred about you?

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:56 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:52 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


this is a very bad post. clearly reading the thread, clearly hyper aware of the post limit, has a motive for not posting frequently; yet in his hello senpai post he elects to give no content of his own and simply defers all content to damdred. i noticed you, even if no one else did.

I gave a read in that post plus asking Damdred about you?


you gave a 0 content town read on the guy spamming the thread who is probably never getting lynched on day 1 and whom the person who's opinion you're deferring to said he is never lynching day 1. it is the easiest read to just make offhand.

I had him null leaning town and was giving a update on my read on him.......................

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 08:03 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI I just finished a game+ Show Spoiler +
I won as VT
and can now focus more on this game now! Anyways I do think ritoky is town atm with his questioning towards.

You dirty liar.
##Vote GiygaS

He pulls up the fact that he won as town in his last game. Wow, like that matters!
On December 15 2015 18:31 Rels wrote:
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On December 15 2015 18:23 Koshi wrote:
It's not a lie. It's him thinking you are mafia and seeing things a bit biased and exaggerate a little bit. Also add the content LS gave that was answering to your questions because GaygiS Khan would use those posts as well to type that sentence. All that combined it it not a lie just representing his case a-on you a tiny bit better than it should be.


You should have read what I said about Onegu last game to get him lynched. Same shit. 15 times as worse btw.


Possible townie behavior from Gaygis Khan, but certain not a 100% mafia alignment "lie". Try again.

1 - that's definitely a lie. He didn't say "I feel LS isn't scum and is attacked for nothing, he said "In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. ", which prove he didn't check his accusation; when it's the phase he's apparently "going through filters" and shit.

2 - he's relying on others to make this accusation. In his post he mentionned you:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 15:35 GiygaS wrote:
Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS.

And despite accusing me, he didn't vote before TS did:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 15:45 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't notice the time change. I think LightningStrike kinda falls into the Chezinu Rule (weird posters get attacked by mafia since they are so easy to lynch). I really didn't like how he came in scummed LS and bailed. Koshi has good points on him too. Plus, maybe he will spew townbows.

##Vote: Rels

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On December 15 2015 16:08 GiygaS wrote:
##Vote Rels

Pretty comfortable with this now after looking at filters. Heading to bed now

3 - he said he was going through filters; he had only "null or town reads" before; and after doing it he has only 1 easy scumread and gtfo of the thread.


I feel like he is overexerting the point with the going thorough filters. I mean I've gone through the filters and miss crap too. in fact Giyga Khan Brought this up:
On December 16 2015 02:41 GiygaS wrote:
Why do people think my read on rels was the only thing I got out of the filter/thread readover? If you look up you'll see I also had scum reads on tt and shape. Like all these people saying I didn't fulfill promises or came out of reading filters and thread again with 1 awful scum read are just wrong.

Clearly I made a mistake reading LS's filter going over it again (I honestly don't know where), so going to unvote rels and put my vote back on tt.

##unvote
##vote tictock


Rels second reason for voting GiygaS Khan had no real reason. His second reason look like he was trying to hint to a scum team bewteen you and GiygaS Khan? He doesn't respond to your question. He only mentions it to help his case. He lies about GiygaS khan about his only "null" reads from filters. As he Obliviously posted that scum read on me and TT. He seems to hide the facts. Seems scummy. Hell, Koshi even backed him up and Rels went crazy with it.

On December 15 2015 18:43 Rels wrote:
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On December 15 2015 18:42 ritoky wrote:
because him saying shit like that to pocket LS for the entire game as mafia isn't outside of his wheel house. and from my experience only women on TL have the magical 100% LS read that you always trust. so unless damdred suddenly became a lesbian...

p:
Yes ofc Damdred could be scum. But I don't think they're both scum with Damdred defending LS like that; and I don't town!Damdred misreads LS.

Goes back to LS. Involves Damdred. Cannot understand the boldded part.

On December 15 2015 18:54 Rels wrote:
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On December 15 2015 18:44 Koshi wrote:
On December 15 2015 18:31 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 18:23 Koshi wrote:
It's not a lie. It's him thinking you are mafia and seeing things a bit biased and exaggerate a little bit. Also add the content LS gave that was answering to your questions because GaygiS Khan would use those posts as well to type that sentence. All that combined it it not a lie just representing his case a-on you a tiny bit better than it should be.


You should have read what I said about Onegu last game to get him lynched. Same shit. 15 times as worse btw.


Possible townie behavior from Gaygis Khan, but certain not a 100% mafia alignment "lie". Try again.

1 - that's definitely a lie. He didn't say "I feel LS isn't scum and is attacked for nothing, he said "In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. ", which prove he didn't check his accusation; when it's the phase he's apparently "going through filters" and shit.

2 - he's relying on others to make this accusation. In his post he mentionned you:
On December 15 2015 15:35 GiygaS wrote:
Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS.

And despite accusing me, he didn't vote before TS did:
On December 15 2015 15:45 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't notice the time change. I think LightningStrike kinda falls into the Chezinu Rule (weird posters get attacked by mafia since they are so easy to lynch). I really didn't like how he came in scummed LS and bailed. Koshi has good points on him too. Plus, maybe he will spew townbows.

##Vote: Rels

On December 15 2015 16:08 GiygaS wrote:
##Vote Rels

Pretty comfortable with this now after looking at filters. Heading to bed now

3 - he said he was going through filters; he had only "null or town reads" before; and after doing it he has only 1 easy scumread and gtfo of the thread.

1) If he said that LS was town and therefore you scum that would actually be scummy. Preflip association etc. But what he said was just something a townie could perceive. I am not saying LS is "on top of things" but LS is playing the game. I can see GaygiS Khan thinking that it is totally unwarranted that you made some shitty meta case representing LS his just finished town game was super fucking amazing and in this game it is utter shit.

Because Rels, THAT WAS THE FUCKING LIE, You representing LS his previous game as something fucking rainbow brilliancy, and then using that game to say this game was shit and therefore he is mafia.

THAT WAS 100 TIMES worse than what Gaygis Khan did.


Or show me rels. Show me how LS his D1 on haunted mafia was SO MUCH BETTER than here. You know, the game in which he had 6 votes midday 1 and the next guy had 2 or something.
I skimmed his filter yesterday. Nothing better than here. Not at all.

And then LS capslock some stuff and he is clear town? And you are Quoting Damdred to push this brilliant LS town read some more?


I am very skeptical.

LOL you motherfucker you didn't even read the filters I linked. Here are the first page of LS in dark tournament:
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On December 01 2015 12:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I had just got home and read and Tfrel tried to snipe me when I was gone even though in the pregame I EVEN TOLD EVERYONE I WAS GOING TO BE GONE TILL NOW -_-
Here the quote for proof:
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On December 01 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
oh another pre game excuse: I wont be here until like 4 hours after game start due to college class into going out to eat with my parents :o

Anyways Tfrel seems like a scumlean for now for trying to snipe me and tried to case Damdred when Damdred caught tfrel on the fact that I told everyone I wasn't going to be here till now.
Palmar seems town for now he actually being serious although I don't think Shining is really scum yet but he fooled me till later in my last game when he was scum.
I also liking Damdred this game for his responses and actually trying to hunt scum.
I need more time on MD because his play style is so weird my experience playing with him and hosting/cohosting games involving him.
DYH seems townlean he actually tried to comment on stuff that is relevant to the game.
@kush: If you are here what you think of Shining vs Palmar?
@Palmar: Okay if Shining is town then who is mafia and why?
Also some Christmas pictures for Palmar because I know he's a huge sucker for Christmas:
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On December 01 2015 12:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways Boxer don't claim unless you getting lynched please it's a dumb idea to claim blue unless you getting lynched.

On December 01 2015 12:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Shining since you had cooled off what you got out of your fight with Palmar?

On December 01 2015 12:52 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 01 2015 12:47 The Shining wrote:
It's not the first time you've played with me, nor the first time I've reacted that way. Why is it interesting to you? Do you find it indicative in any way? What do you think of what I said about fidei, or what palmar said about me, or revel about damdred?

I was just trying to see if your thoughts had changed since you cooled off. Anyways I think Palmar is town he did this very similarly how he did when I first played with him in Metal Mini when I was town vs his town. Damdred is town like I said earlier I liked his responses since it's a Damdred thought. James is null atm because he went straight to bed afterwards.
Also Hi Damdred how are you?

On December 01 2015 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:
rolf you kinda ninja'd me there Shining. Fair enough.

On December 01 2015 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 01 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:47 The Shining wrote:
It's not the first time you've played with me, nor the first time I've reacted that way. Why is it interesting to you? Do you find it indicative in any way? What do you think of what I said about fidei, or what palmar said about me, or revel about damdred?

I find it interesting that you acted that way because A. I'm genuinely concerned for your mental state in Mafia as I know it's a high stress game. B. I do feel that you overreacted a bit with your sudden outburst and I disliked the way you try to use your meta to defend yourself.

So. I just want to know your thoughts. What was the basis behind your Fidei read?

I think that post was towards me not you lol.....

On December 01 2015 12:54 LightningStrike wrote:
He prob asleep atm MD so except him to be around tomorrow morning lol.

On December 01 2015 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 01 2015 12:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:47 The Shining wrote:
It's not the first time you've played with me, nor the first time I've reacted that way. Why is it interesting to you? Do you find it indicative in any way? What do you think of what I said about fidei, or what palmar said about me, or revel about damdred?

I find it interesting that you acted that way because A. I'm genuinely concerned for your mental state in Mafia as I know it's a high stress game. B. I do feel that you overreacted a bit with your sudden outburst and I disliked the way you try to use your meta to defend yourself.

So. I just want to know your thoughts. What was the basis behind your Fidei read?

I think that post was towards me not you lol.....

it was for Shining xd i'm just ninja'ing him so much

I was referring to original post you quoted lol.

On December 01 2015 13:14 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 01 2015 13:01 The Shining wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On December 01 2015 12:47 The Shining wrote:
It's not the first time you've played with me, nor the first time I've reacted that way. Why is it interesting to you? Do you find it indicative in any way? What do you think of what I said about fidei, or what palmar said about me, or revel about damdred?

I find it interesting that you acted that way because A. I'm genuinely concerned for your mental state in Mafia as I know it's a high stress game. B. I do feel that you overreacted a bit with your sudden outburst and I disliked the way you try to use your meta to defend yourself.

So. I just want to know your thoughts. What was the basis behind your Fidei read?

I think that post was towards me not you lol.....


Yes it was towards md but your answer so quick and natural earns you a town point

Well ops I thought it was towards me because I had asked you a question like a few posts before lol.

On December 01 2015 13:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Well going to bed now as my mom is taking me to school tomorrow morning but I will be on my laptop waiting for class and bring my charger incase battery runs low but when I wake up tomorrow morning I will try and catch up!

On December 01 2015 20:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi I just woke up and I am feeling tired still because I obviously only got like 7 hours of sleep so if I sound tired based on my posts that's why but some people had some comments/questions towards me:
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On December 01 2015 18:16 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike:
On December 01 2015 12:18 LightningStrike wrote:
DYH seems townlean he actually tried to comment on stuff that is relevant to the game.
Specifically, what comments did he make that were relevant to the game, and why do they make him town?

Damdred: (and PLEASE, no one else answer this, don't be stupid...):
I'm sorry, I know you don't want to talk about this, but it's driving me insane.
Hypothetical scenario 1: Trfel makes a post an hour into a mafia game casting suspicions on Joe for not having posted.
Hypothetical scenario 2: Trfel makes a post an hour into a mafia game casting suspicions on Bob for not having posted. Bob said before the game that he would not be present for the first few hours of the game.

What difference do you see between these two scenarios?



Palmar seems like obvious town. There's one thing I hope to check eventually, though.

I kind of want to lynch The Shining, but that seems like a very bad idea right now. He's put in a bunch of effort (regardless of alignment) on a busy day for him. Most of the problems that I have with his posts are wording, tone, and a bit of consistency, which aren't the most reliable. I do feel that his posting somewhat fits mafia motivation, but I'm nowhere near confident enough to be happy lynching him now. I feel that The Shining's alignment will become very clear with a bit more time.

I still think that Damdred is mafia, but I remembered that the past several times I've played with Damdred (both town) I've always thought he was mafia I'm guessing that I have some preconceived notions for what I expect Damdred to do, and whenever he doesn't behave exactly as I would expect him to, I think he's mafia. And it seems to be very hard for me to separate this from mafia motivations...

Did anyone else find Damdred's townread of The Shining a bit off? Palmar commented on why the third point is invalid, which I completely agree with.

He wasn't really afraid to post his thoughts on the stuff when he was around and I know it's limited content but still when he was around he did try to be involved a little bit. I might be a huge sucker for people.
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Morning folks.

So I have two competing thoughts about Shining. The first is that I entirely agree with Palmar about why Shining's play makes no sense. I'd also add that it's even more strange that his 'read' on me seemed almost entirely OMGUS, but then as soon as HTS made a point against me in her thread entry, he adopted it and parroted it as the new reason he didn't like me. The second is that he and Palmar seem very invested in this fight - much more so than seems warranted by the early stage of the game. They have been back and forth, what, five or six times now? Almost to the exclusion of everyone else. The 'better' play as town is plainly to apologise for bad thread entry (which Shining did, admittedly, do) and then to turn attention elsewhere (which neither Palmar or Shining have done). The only thing I have to say in Shining's defence is that his rebuttal's read very heartfelt. That can be something that is hard to replicate as mafia, and it's giving me pause here. I would say Shining is a very slight scum read for me, but I wouldn't vote for him as yet.

Also - morning Rels. Re my read on you - I've watched you play enough games as mafia now to think I have a reasonable handle on your meta. Yes, you are totally capable of breaking your meta, but your "I give no fucks" tone and posting content is town Rels to me.

Lightning Strike's entrance seems way over the top to me, especially for him. Usually he comes in and posts some relatively anodyne 1-liners, whereas here he came in with a big long paragraph attacking someone (Trfel I think) for calling him out earlier. In my experience, town LS is much more relaxed and jokey, until he starts getting attacked seriously (which I don't think had happened by that point). Then again, LS is primo lynch-bait D1, so I'll try and avoid getting too tunnelled for now.

My one heretical thought at the moment is that Dani might be mafia. I know, I know. It's more of a hunch than a real read, but I'm just not feeling it from her posts so far. Town Dani that I've known usually goes in one direction, then another, and she has an almost relentless quality. Too many of her posts last night were backtracking on things she had already said, and it's not clear she reached anything much of a landing point. It could be because it's early and because she's tired though.

Moosy is posting the same kind of rubbish that he posted in our first Newbie game together. In that game he was new and was inadvertently trying some sort of Chezinu--style baits. Which, in fairness, worked. Then when he was mafia and I was town, he was super super serious all game. Obviously if he doesn't contribute further then at some point we will have to lynch him for being useless / lynch all lurkers, but for now I give him a slight town read.

I had posted paragraphs as town before when I wasn't there at the start of the day for a entry post(see slytherin) but about attacking Trfel: it seemed like he wants to try and find a reason to scum read me even though I had said in the pregame that I wouldn't be around till like 4 hours after start of the game. Just a little bit frustrated from that and I glad Damdred called him out on it too.

On December 02 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me.

On December 02 2015 01:15 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 02 2015 00:29 Onegu wrote:
Onegu VT claim.

Be back later

Hi can you comment on anything please?

On December 02 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 02 2015 01:23 Rels wrote:
On December 02 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me.

Any idea on what could be scum ?

I told you earlier that I think Tfrel is scum mainly his stuff about me.....


Number of game-related posts: 8/14

Here are all the posts of LS this game until I asked him for a list post:
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On December 14 2015 08:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys! Let's lynch some scum and here how we should do it:
Step 1: Find the scum through interactions
Step 2: Lynch the scum
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit.
Any questions or comments?

On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Hi I'm a Miller ls, how do I play this?

Miller's aren't aware......... Are you mafia?

On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 08:06 Koshi wrote:
##Vote Lightningstrike

brilliant. I actually said the same thing 2 games ago.

Really? I only been back recently and not really obsed the games so(shrugs)

On December 14 2015 08:15 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW the step thing is part of a meme if you guys don't know

On December 14 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Sukrit is a smurf obviously lol....

On December 14 2015 08:29 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 08:20 Damdred wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Hi I'm a Miller ls, how do I play this?

Miller's aren't aware......... Are you mafia?


My master plan ruined thanks to you ls. You caught me.

Good. Now can you tell me who else is mafia with you?

On December 14 2015 08:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred is pulling a Palmar on me I had to have a little fun with Damdred there

On December 14 2015 08:40 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:29 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:20 Damdred wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Hi I'm a Miller ls, how do I play this?

Miller's aren't aware......... Are you mafia?


My master plan ruined thanks to you ls. You caught me.

Good. Now can you tell me who else is mafia with you?


You obviously!

Though shape is a good chance at town

Damn you sold me out We have to have Shape take all the town cred as possible :o

On December 14 2015 08:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Kosh is so anti fun

On December 14 2015 10:37 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 10:30 Damdred wrote:
Let me tell you why you are totally wrong in how you are approaching koshi.

1) you say that koshi is going to be super lazy and you are content voting him because that's his scum meta.

In actuality you are right about his meta but dead wrong in your interpretation of what koshi said. If you read koshis post he clearly states he's going to focus on building cases and finding mafia. A clearly different thing especially since generally cases take a decent bit of effort which scum koshi lacks.

2) you say my post is terrible because you read koshi on his d1. Though you correct yourself by saying I said 24 hours.

In actuality I a aid we shouldn't bother koshi so that we can see what he comes up with. Since you know he said he would focus on cases and finding scum instead of spamming the thread.

....like I said give koshi space and some time see what he comes up with.

I agree with this for now.

On December 14 2015 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 11:13 Sukrit wrote:
On December 14 2015 11:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 14 2015 09:51 Sukrit wrote:
On December 14 2015 09:48 Damdred wrote:
It's honestly be the most helpful to everyone if you basically ignored koshi for the first 24 and see what kind of smart things he says and then make a decision going into,the lynch. If you keep badgering him about low posting you will just have a horrendous amount of non information.

Tt I think ls is town should I get my head checked?




Man I am finding everything terrible. Koshi is best read by his day one. Like this post is also terrible.


Koshi, Damdred scum team.


You

I like you, FF


I am so much cooler than that shit eater.

You sound like JAT or HF that is pissed lol.

On December 14 2015 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 11:23 Shapelog wrote:
On December 14 2015 11:11 Sukrit wrote:
On December 14 2015 10:50 Shapelog wrote:
On December 14 2015 10:30 Damdred wrote:
Let me tell you why you are totally wrong in how you are approaching koshi.

1) you say that koshi is going to be super lazy and you are content voting him because that's his scum meta.

In actuality you are right about his meta but dead wrong in your interpretation of what koshi said. If you read koshis post he clearly states he's going to focus on building cases and finding mafia. A clearly different thing especially since generally cases take a decent bit of effort which scum koshi lacks.

2) you say my post is terrible because you read koshi on his d1. Though you correct yourself by saying I said 24 hours.

In actuality I a aid we shouldn't bother koshi so that we can see what he comes up with. Since you know he said he would focus on cases and finding scum instead of spamming the thread.

....like I said give koshi space and some time see what he comes up with.


Alright lets let the beast sleep at least for today. However, if nothing comes out of it I kinda have to lean scum onto him. I honestly have nothing on him other his meta and that is just off of what I saw/gather from other people and Haunted Mason.

I kinda getting a scummy feel from Sukrit. Although it is early, I was just going through his filter. 4/5 of his game posts is him/her accusing people without any info. I mean these aren't even really leans as it is just "Hey this doesn't fit that guys meta, lynch the witch!" kinda post. All I see is him/she trying to make it look like they are reading people so they can earn town cred and such.


This post is complete shit. I dont expect this from town koshi. Koshi is lazy as scum. This excuse this early is really bad.



Man I am finding everything terrible. Koshi is best read by his day one. Like this post is also terrible.


Koshi, Damdred scum team.


I mean his/her posts follow zero logic what so ever. Their only reasoning is "this post is shit" but don't explain why other then meta? Seems Scummy too me.



What is wrong with meta I may or may not have played multiple games with koshi. Prove that my meta read is wrong then you can talk. And then I will prove that you are wrong.


I wonder if you have a brother who for a nickel with buy me a drink.

I wasn't saying it was wrong, nor was I saying you were right. I just was saying that if you could provide more information other then meta then I can believe you more. You were just saying "This is shit based off meta" which while is ok. Doesn't convince me that he couldn't go against his meta for a game. And the timing I will admit is a bit weird, it really NAI. Who knows maybe he's tired. Honestly, he hasn't posted much and it's still early in the game. I would be concern if he said "I finding detail reads on my scum leads" and a hour before deadline didn't post any reads. Time will tell with Koshi.

I would laugh if Koshi flips Mafia. Maybe then our scums team would combine too LS/Damdred/Koshi possibly at the point?


Sorry, why are you thinking about teams right now?

Ya it's a little to early to talk about teams when no one flipped imo.

On December 14 2015 11:53 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 11:42 Sukrit wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477216-horn-of-africa-mini-mafia?user=Koshi

HolyShit. Look at this filter on page one. Anything look familiar?

Were you in that game in any type of form? That game was kinda funny.
10/10 would tell people to shoot JAT again

On December 14 2015 11:56 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 11:53 Sukrit wrote:
Maybe^

Do you know who the town puppy was?

On December 14 2015 12:00 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 11:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 14 2015 11:41 Shapelog wrote:
On December 14 2015 11:36 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 14 2015 11:11 Sukrit wrote:
On December 14 2015 10:50 Shapelog wrote:
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Alright lets let the beast sleep at least for today. However, if nothing comes out of it I kinda have to lean scum onto him. I honestly have nothing on him other his meta and that is just off of what I saw/gather from other people and Haunted Mason.

I kinda getting a scummy feel from Sukrit. Although it is early, I was just going through his filter. 4/5 of his game posts is him/her accusing people without any info. I mean these aren't even really leans as it is just "Hey this doesn't fit that guys meta, lynch the witch!" kinda post. All I see is him/she trying to make it look like they are reading people so they can earn town cred and such.

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I mean his/her posts follow zero logic what so ever. Their only reasoning is "this post is shit" but don't explain why other then meta? Seems Scummy too me.



What is wrong with meta I may or may not have played multiple games with koshi. Prove that my meta read is wrong then you can talk. And then I will prove that you are wrong.


I wonder if you have a brother who for a nickel with buy me a drink.

I wasn't saying it was wrong, nor was I saying you were right. I just was saying that if you could provide more information other then meta then I can believe you more. You were just saying "This is shit based off meta" which while is ok. Doesn't convince me that he couldn't go against his meta for a game. And the timing I will admit is a bit weird, it really NAI. Who knows maybe he's tired. Honestly, he hasn't posted much and it's still early in the game. I would be concern if he said "I finding detail reads on my scum leads" and a hour before deadline didn't post any reads. Time will tell with Koshi.

I would laugh if Koshi flips Mafia. Maybe then our scums team would combine too LS/Damdred/Koshi possibly at the point?


Sorry, why are you thinking about teams right now?


I suggest early that LS/damred/??? could be a team (even though it was far fetch even for me, see #76). That why I would laugh if me and him predicted mafia D1 and just thought it was too far fetch XD. While it's a possibility, I doubt it.

Also thank you for your earlier post btw.


Oh so you're joking about it, then?


Half that and Half I think i throw it out there for later so i won't forget. I tend to overthink things so even if i overthink, i post it and i look back at it and decide if it was garage or worth something.

If i was going accuse this person and this person are mafia, then i would make sure I had more info than a hunch to go off of.


Fair enough.

Let's talk about them, separately

Can you please explain everything you think against them?


Eh most of it is void now but in the moment I thought their conversation was a bit off,

Individually:
Damred: thought was weird to claim miler for obivs reasons.
LS: his reaction to Damred kinda felt planned in my head. Sounded and was timed almost like it was planned

So I thought "hey if i was mafia i could make it sound like a townie v townie and we can get off to a good start." Which now that i retype it and had time to think about it. Doesn't make that much sense until the follow up comments. But honestly seems really overthought.

They said they pulled a palmar on me..... still have no clue what that is

Hi bats. Palmar in XXX said someone wasn't in his naughty list and I asked him if he claimed scum and he said Whoops lol.

On December 14 2015 12:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Ops for a second there when I quoting I thought you were bats Shape lol. Anyways Sukrit what you mean Mafia Claim^?

On December 14 2015 12:24 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 12:19 Sukrit wrote:
I am Palmar and claiming mafia...

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I know you joking

Do you like Christmas?

On December 14 2015 12:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay you're not Palmar lol.(Had to look what Kwanza is because I never heard of it before)

On December 14 2015 12:27 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 12:25 Shapelog wrote:
On December 14 2015 12:19 Sukrit wrote:
I am Palmar and claiming mafia...


Hey he's MIA... can't i capture it and get a reward? Turn him in for deserting the Royal Forums Army?

No need to man. I will just get Marv to get him lol.

On December 14 2015 12:28 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 12:27 Shapelog wrote:
You never heard of Kwanza? like really?

I am sadden by this.

I never heard of it honestly lol. Prob because my friends and family never did Kwanza at least as far as I know.

On December 14 2015 12:35 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 12:32 Sukrit wrote:
On December 14 2015 12:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 14 2015 12:24 Sukrit wrote:
Kwanza


Seven days of holidays???

I think I have a new religion!



But Hanukkah has 8 crazy nights!

But his liver might not handle it :o
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I honestly don't know how much he drinks lol.

On December 14 2015 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 14 2015 22:44 Koshi wrote:
Decent amount of posts about Koshi. Was I mafia in Horn of Africa? I don't think so. I can't read filters here.
Anyway.
Voting Kush cuz he won't be off any use it seems.

##unvote
##vote: Kushmasta

You were mafia there and shot by Breshke the hero Vig



Number of game-related posts: 2/22

Again, Has drop case on GiygaS Khan and picked back up LS's. Why? Maybe because Ls was more relvent at the time? Could be. Or could be he is deciding bewteen them.
But, LS and Rel both was in the same game. Both last long. Rel died first. And he only has a few more game-related posts Then that of LS. I'm sorry what? how the hell are you going to do that if your telling everyone because of that game you were in your were busy. But obliviously LS wasn't?

On December 15 2015 18:59 Rels wrote:
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On December 15 2015 18:52 Koshi wrote:
1) Say Gaygis Khan is mafia for quoting and using other people their suspicion to push a read.
2) Quote Damdred and question why ritoky is not taking Damdred his tone read as it came from God himself.
3) ???
4) Hypocrisy everywhere

Damdred has a god read on LS from my experience. Do you think they're scum together ? Or do you think Damdred doesn't have a god read ? Please say it 'cause I don't understand you there.

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On December 15 2015 18:52 Koshi wrote:
1) Have 0 reads and doing literally nothing. Making excuses for not playing in the future.
2) Make a shitty meta case and fuck off. 0 extra explanation was given till this day. Entire meta case went into the trashcan because suspect made a capslock sentence.
3) Call somebody else mafia for doing nothing except calling 1 guy mafia and fuck off
4) ???
5) Hypocrisy everywhere

1 - Yep I think LS is town from this caps lock. Last game I checked his meta and he NEVER used caps lock as scum when pressured. Feel free to point me where I'm wrong.
2 - Yep, I'm accusing whatever his name is partly for doing nothing except calling 1 mafia and fuck off, while I did that too. But I didn't pretend to reread the game then to read filters to make one wrong and weak case on a lurker.

Wait Damdred has a god read on LS. And they could be Scum. Does this contradict with his early post about how they CAN'T be mafia. I admit, I have Contradicted more then anyone on this game and am town. But just because someone is good at reading someone and they don't magically have a read this game doesn't mean anything. Is it a bit weird? maybe. Is it enough for a scum team reason? No. Again, going after Damred because he saw he was under Scurtiy for not having a read on LS. (maybe he brought it up, I too lazy to look up another filter. 20 tabs open lol)
And now is calling LS town because everyone is moving on. I kinda of seeing your point here TS
On December 15 2015 19:07 Rels wrote:
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On December 15 2015 19:04 Koshi wrote:
I haven no clue on how good Damdred can read LS. I also don't give a fuck about it. He can be wrong.


1) Weak that you lose your suspicion of LS due to 1 capslock sentence. But I can see it possible coming from town Rels after waking up.
2) I really don't see how it makes him mafia. GaygiS Khan never claimed he is certain you are mafia, he admits it is a bit of a pressure vote as well. You are/ were not a bad place to put a pressure vote on. I liked the play.

Well you should appreciate the pressure back when all he had to show for rereading the game and filters was one case that was wrong.
Or you're scum with him.

Koshi makes a good point. Jumps back on GiygaS Khan. Tells Koshi he show be "happy" of his pressure vote on Khan. And that only one case is wrong. I will admit, Rel is fighting Koshi. But it seems more of a cat clawing at a screen then a OMGUS fight.

Recap: Rels has 3 Lynch targets: GiygaS Khan, LS, Damred. Picked fights with Koshi and a bit with You

On December 15 2015 19:14 Rels wrote:
TT is a good lynch too. He could be scum. He's not invested in finding scums, contrary to what I'm used from him. He repeats multiple times he doesn't have much time to play.

This:
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On December 14 2015 16:59 Tictock wrote:
Ok gave this game a quick reread now that I'm home and not being distracted or as constrained on time.

Damdred is prob town for the Miller thing, plus he made a good point about meta-ing Koshi (or rather not rushing to meta Koshi). Easy start to a townpile.

is a bad reasonning to townread Damdred.

This:
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On December 14 2015 14:39 Tictock wrote:
On December 14 2015 14:01 kushm4sta wrote:
hello dear friends. I was not expecting this game to start so quickly. The number of potential signups made me think this was a large game and that it would start nearer to christmas.

Should I ask for replacement? hmm no I think I would rather just piss everyone off with my minimal activity.

I'm going to placeholder on ritoky because i see his name up there and I recall him posting pics of miley cyrus.


I dislike this opening, though your vote has a solid reason.

as pointed to ritoky, is a weird mix of serious + joke in the same sentence.

Joke is useless. Too many people jump on that for Rel's to randomly pull it out. Was 5 hours roughly after the TT wagon votes started. Feels like he look at votes/read from the page he left off. Saw TT getting lynch, posted this to fit in.
On December 16 2015 04:18 Shapelog wrote:
Then lets fix this.
We have a TT which is different from Haunted mafia. Onegu had a post about TT awhile ago. Koshi asked GB his ideas about TT. He seems different from it too IMO. I been having a scummy feel off of him and hoping he would pick up but he hasn't

##Vote Ticktock


And who knows Koshi. With step-up being random, someone might be Sugar fairy and heal.

This is when we/i started the voting 5 hours earlier
On December 16 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:
I think Damdred is scum.

Damdred is not invested in the game, which is already a big indicator.
Damdred usually plays D1 by finding townreads, and lynching the one not in his town list. Here I have the distinct impression he tried to replicate that but failed. He has a couple of easy townreads that are not mostly based on nothing:
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On December 14 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:29 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:20 Damdred wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Hi I'm a Miller ls, how do I play this?

Miller's aren't aware......... Are you mafia?


My master plan ruined thanks to you ls. You caught me.

Good. Now can you tell me who else is mafia with you?


You obviously!

Though shape is a good chance at town

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On December 15 2015 05:07 Damdred wrote:
Games not to bad I have a few ok town reads so far I'll post more when I get home.

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On December 15 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


I'm a bit behind tbh but my initial gut was town on Tt other idk yet

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On December 15 2015 09:59 Damdred wrote:
For the record ls is town this game, tone/actions and how he does the game totally point to it. I'll go to war over this read.

His only posts that are a little big are about how to read Koshi, which is something completely unrelated to scumhunting:
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On December 14 2015 09:48 Damdred wrote:
It's honestly be the most helpful to everyone if you basically ignored koshi for the first 24 and see what kind of smart things he says and then make a decision going into,the lynch. If you keep badgering him about low posting you will just have a horrendous amount of non information.

Tt I think ls is town should I get my head checked?

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On December 14 2015 10:30 Damdred wrote:
Let me tell you why you are totally wrong in how you are approaching koshi.

1) you say that koshi is going to be super lazy and you are content voting him because that's his scum meta.

In actuality you are right about his meta but dead wrong in your interpretation of what koshi said. If you read koshis post he clearly states he's going to focus on building cases and finding mafia. A clearly different thing especially since generally cases take a decent bit of effort which scum koshi lacks.

2) you say my post is terrible because you read koshi on his d1. Though you correct yourself by saying I said 24 hours.

In actuality I a aid we shouldn't bother koshi so that we can see what he comes up with. Since you know he said he would focus on cases and finding scum instead of spamming the thread.

....like I said give koshi space and some time see what he comes up with.


Finally, there is no list post that Damdred uses for finding scums by POE with his townreads, especially on D1. For comparaison, here are the kind of posts I expected from Damdred (from Really Small Mafia II and Dark Tournament Mafia in which he flipped town).
Really Small Mafia II, 12 hours into D1:
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On December 12 2015 20:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 12 2015 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2015 15:18 Damdred wrote:
Eh screw it I'm awake so I'll post.

Rs/Art go after Darth in what amounts to there opening post and follow up post. While I don't think its out of the scope of what they could do as scum going after dp so fast is something I don't really consider either of them to do.

It seems to me its more motivated at this instance coming from town trying to catch someone on a meta irregularity that they feel. It isn't quite the gorcha moment to total town read but it makes sense and fives me somewhat town feelings motive wise.

yes, this makes sense to me aswell.

I think your read on Greymist is not really based on good reasoning Damdred. I believe in this game there are zero players who can be considered either alignment based on the tone of the posts, as we are all experienced enough to fake it. I think it's as possible that Greymist started the game joking with you as scum than it is that he did it as town.


I'd probably agree with the part on my greymist post. I'm not hard town reading him at this point.

like it sort of looks like this

Damdred
Rayn

probably town
Rsoultin/art
Darth

liking them
greymist

?
Marv
Rels


Dark Tournament, 25 hours into D1:
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On December 02 2015 09:36 Damdred wrote:
Disinformation
Eels
Damdred
Shining
Palmar

Leans
Trfel
Fid (falling)
Ls

Honestly it's notso bad so far even though I've read 0 filters.


I think Damdred is scum.
##Unvote
##Vote Damdred

Back again to fucking Damdred. God this guy is giving me a headache. Again, popular time for a person about how they might not be town. A fucking Rels post pops up. This guys switches wifes faster then Donald Trump. He scuming Damred, for the same reason everyone else is, because he isn't doing a town read. I wonder what if this guy has OCD and if something is out of place, he flips out this bad as people not fitting their "meta". Thats why its call a "meta" gives you a ROUGH estimate of what they might do.
On December 16 2015 05:24 Rels wrote:
I also heavily dislike tubesock. Almost only questions and no direction in his filter. His only scumread is I, and it's a non-assumed vote:
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On December 15 2015 15:45 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't notice the time change. I think LightningStrike kinda falls into the Chezinu Rule (weird posters get attacked by mafia since they are so easy to lynch). I really didn't like how he came in scummed LS and bailed. Koshi has good points on him too. Plus, maybe he will spew townbows.

##Vote: Rels

Just sheeping giygas and this little sentence: "Plus, maybe he will spew townbows." I don't like that.

On you now because of lack of content and sheeping. I don't mind this though, felt the same tbh.

On December 16 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
Reading the thread I had these as town

Town
LS
Shape
sukrit

Maybe town
Koshi
ritoky

I would lynch TT Damdred or TS right now. giygas wasn't as bad as I thought. The others I have no idea atm.

OMG THIS GUY! I FEEL LIKE GIYGAS KHAN AS HE READ THROUGH MY FILTER OMG!
I mean the guy's number 1 scum pick at the begaining and later onto the day Is now NUMBER ONE in Town list! One contradiction. And the reason why is because of a CAP LOCKS SENTENCE? NO READ FROM DAMRED?
Then goes on how he would lynch ALL THE PEOPLE TOWN WAS TALKING ABOUT LYNCHING! AND MEATIONS GIYGAS KHAN BECAUSE TT WAS LYNCHING HIM!!!

Keep it together Shape.... Keep it together.

Alright. Agrees with me about Damreds not posting Bomb. blah blah blah Koshi blah blah blah
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On December 16 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:
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On December 16 2015 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Damdred his scumgame is better than this though. He is really good at it. So there are time restrictions at play either alignment. Hmm not sure if I want to lynch him. He is pretty on point in those few posts. He is just not solving anything... It is pure lack of solving the game that makes him mafia right?

Look at his half assed townreads he's posting, compared for example to what he usually does to create discussion.
This game:
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On December 14 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:29 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:20 Damdred wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Hi I'm a Miller ls, how do I play this?

Miller's aren't aware......... Are you mafia?


My master plan ruined thanks to you ls. You caught me.

Good. Now can you tell me who else is mafia with you?


You obviously!

Though shape is a good chance at town

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On December 14 2015 09:48 Damdred wrote:
It's honestly be the most helpful to everyone if you basically ignored koshi for the first 24 and see what kind of smart things he says and then make a decision going into,the lynch. If you keep badgering him about low posting you will just have a horrendous amount of non information.

Tt I think ls is town should I get my head checked?

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On December 15 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


I'm a bit behind tbh but my initial gut was town on Tt other idk yet

Super Mini Mafia II:
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On December 12 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
There's two reasons why I like greymist both are shitty to a degree one more so than the last.

The most simple and superficial reason was that after a super rough week he made me chuckle and put me in a good mood in the game.

The second shitty reason was he answered my question in a way that wasn't over confident in how he approached me or rather betraying a knowledge he shouldn't have.

Both are nai but it's a place to start liking someone

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On December 12 2015 15:18 Damdred wrote:
Eh screw it I'm awake so I'll post.

Rs/Art go after Darth in what amounts to there opening post and follow up post. While I don't think its out of the scope of what they could do as scum going after dp so fast is something I don't really consider either of them to do.

It seems to me its more motivated at this instance coming from town trying to catch someone on a meta irregularity that they feel. It isn't quite the gorcha moment to total town read but it makes sense and fives me somewhat town feelings motive wise.


Damred again (was popular vote/topic to discus back then). Again Koshi says something about Damred Scum game, Rels Counters with No No No this is his meta. Based off of half ass town reads. Again going with the flow of who is easier to lynch.
On December 16 2015 06:40 Rels wrote:
OK I don't want to lynch TT.
Damdred and kush are my options.

Damred and Kush. Kush because he moved up and Damred because he invested in him.

On December 16 2015 07:05 Rels wrote:
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On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.

he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.

ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.

idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.

1 - did I nitpick and was paranoid of you last game, when you were *obvious town* ? No.
2 - I'm not buddying anyone.
3 - what bullshit reasons are you talking about ?

This was when Damred called Rels scum and Rels said OMGUS case, explain. Explains, shots it down with cause what? meta! #1 That last game, STOP TALKING ABOUT LAST GAME! Dear lord. 2 is true. 3, We know what "BS Reasons" when we look at Rels filter. The this guy is popular topic that town is unsure about. let me say i hate him and vote him.

[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 07:18 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote:
Hrm

I'll have to look st context tommorow then see what happened.

I can't lead a lynch this far behind in an hour. So I see people want me, GB or kush correct[/QUOTE]
1 - can you do a list post with you reads please ?
2 - you shouldn't need the context to defend yourself from my case. So please do it.
3 - you said I had bullshit reasons here:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 07:05 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.

he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.

ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.

idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.[/QUOTE]
please quote and explain.[/QUOTE]

Uber Defensive here against Damred. too much in my opinion to be town.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 08:16 Damdred wrote:
Oooo damdred gets all the balme come at me I'll fucking eat you up and bm you until day phase where hopefully a big shoots me.

come fucking at me[/QUOTE]
rsoultin read says that it cannot be scum Damdred.
So Damdred, stop being obnoxious and start playing the game pretty please.[/QUOTE]
Like wtf. Push this guy for so far and then some "rsoultin" read says he can't be scum? da fuck is going on anymore.

[QUOTE]On December 17 2015 00:09 Rels wrote:
This TS case on me means he's probably scum. He listed a bunch of reasons that don't make me scum; two of which are so obviously NAI that if he had thought about them for 10 seconds he wouldn't have writtent them; and the first reason doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does.[/QUOTE]
You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game.
So I have two problems with town!you believing the above:
- Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post
- Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games.[/QUOTE]
Are you insinuating I'm scum with Onegu ? 'cause that is the only way I could had "cheated" on that; if I was scum and he was town, I wouldn't have an easier way to find the info than if I was town.
If the answer is YES; it's inconsistent with your Onegu townread, so I won't consider it.
If the answer is NO; as proved above, this is not alignement indicative. So you wrote something that look good but has no impact of my alignement in a series a reason as to why I am scum.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one).[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about, and why is this not in the LS explanation ?
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 23:06 RtaniSoul wrote:
After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.[/QUOTE]
1 - even if it was true, so ?
2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately.[/QUOTE]
I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read. [/QUOTE]
If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.[/QUOTE]
Yep. I can be mafia and I can not be. So that is another NAI point in your case, that you say is NAI.[/QUOTE]
Holy mother of shit. Did he just use the "its not always the case, because it meta" excuse....... Fuck Me for even deciding to go through this Hell.


You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game.
So I have two problems with town!you believing the above:
- Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post
- Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine
Do not care about underline. I can understand TS over Rel because Rel was Voting/pressuring LS at the time, when it was popular. Why not stay more on the pressure, and make him sweat pass cap lock? Is it because he meet his Meta? Idc, TS is more believable here.

Onegu/Surkit reaction was ok. I mean Onegu outted himself and was kinda of a suspect anyways because of mansion.

Lurker reasoning:
1 - even if it was true, so ? So kush was a lurker who you voted for..... And Giyga Khan and TS was attack when popular.
2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD. So was everyone else. Like everyone.

I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW.

Opportunistic on damred.......Are you kidding me....... I do not even think i need explain how he has been opportunistic all game.

If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either.
Meh i guess so. But if that is the case, does that make me and the way i vote NAI, although it is talked about. Not sure about if he knew GB would flip town, so i am not sure about this point.


[QUOTE]On December 17 2015 06:13 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 17 2015 04:42 Damdred wrote:
Let's be honest here I am neither invested currently in the game and I'm not as interested in becoming so after the couple of days I've had.

However I will put some form of concerted effort forward to uphold my reputation. And to the person who say damdred is always scum if he's alive after d4 I hate to tell you this I don't have a very good record of being shot for some reason.

Also calling my try to shenanigan away from the current lymch brain dead is incorrect. I have been in plenty of moves that take less time than 4 minutes sometimes 50 seconds is all you need especially with a full game.

However rels what question am I missing or have missed?

Vivax is obvious scum at this point or at least should be ashwd of himaelf if town.[/QUOTE]
Can you go back to your post saying I had bullshit reasons and point out what are they ?[/QUOTE]
We know about the BS reasons. No fucking need to beat a dead horse again. Blah blah blah

[QUOTE]On December 17 2015 06:19 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 17 2015 05:07 Tubesock wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 17 2015 00:09 Rels wrote:
This TS case on me means he's probably scum. He listed a bunch of reasons that don't make me scum; two of which are so obviously NAI that if he had thought about them for 10 seconds he wouldn't have writtent them; and the first reason doesn't make sense.
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On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does.

You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game.
So I have two problems with town!you believing the above:
- Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post
- Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games.[/QUOTE]
Are you insinuating I'm scum with Onegu ? 'cause that is the only way I could had "cheated" on that; if I was scum and he was town, I wouldn't have an easier way to find the info than if I was town.
If the answer is YES; it's inconsistent with your Onegu townread, so I won't consider it.
If the answer is NO; as proved above, this is not alignement indicative. So you wrote something that look good but has no impact of my alignement in a series a reason as to why I am scum.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one).[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about, and why is this not in the LS explanation ?
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 23:06 RtaniSoul wrote:
After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.[/QUOTE]
1 - even if it was true, so ?
2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately.[/QUOTE]
I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read. [/QUOTE]
If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either.
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.[/QUOTE]
Yep. I can be mafia and I can not be. So that is another NAI point in your case, that you say is NAI.[/QUOTE]

The caps lock reasons are pure teasing you. What you are saying is that I am also solely TRing Koshi because he had 1 post near EOD that was all caps lock. That's silly. I am most definitely NOT TRing LS because he had half a post that was caps. But I did want to check it. First I saw he didn't use it as scum but then I wondered if he did as town. So, I checked that too. I still think it's a silly reason so I made fun of you for it. For the record I TR LS for his comfortable tone and he has a bigger filter than I think mafiaLS would. I may have stated before but for LS I don't pay too much attention until D2.5/3 because then he is OBVIOUS. His caps lock statement was NAI. Even though he hasn't done it in his 4 scum games, I think he's entirely capable of it. So it's NAI, but apparently for you it overcomes a SHOCKING difference.

The time it took me to do the above made me think how long it would have taken me to find out Sukrit's identity. I'm more curious to hear how you did it. It would take me days so there must be a trick. But the point is you spent time on smurf hunting rather than solving the game while you are not being active. When I have lots of time to solve the game then smurf hunting is fine, but you haven't been that active so you are wasting that limited resource on smurf hunting? Really? At least it wasn't blue hunting so there's that but still.

yeah, you were OK with lynching TT. TT who had heat on him from several of the town leaders. Way to stick your neck out and make a bold read. I don't think townRels backs down from any fight. I think mafiaRels may or may not back down. Your targets were LS, GiygaS, me, TicTock, and lackluster Damdred. Damdred is the only one in that list that wouldn't qualify as an easy target and that's purely based on reputation. Then you vote completely null Kush. you didn't want to put in the work for getting one of your targets lynched. You took the easy way. I think townRels would have done more.

I don't think you cared about the lynch. I'll concede it's possible confirmation bias but the tone I read in your 3-4 posts "hey guys GB might be bad lynch" is just acting. I don't think you cared at all. Now the important information we need to use this indifference is both GB's and Kush's alignment. If Kush is mafia then your indifference makes you town as mafiaRels would care and probably wouldn't be voting teammate Kush. BUT if Kush is town then indifference could be either and with everything else I think this piece sums you mafia. But we dont' know Kush's alignment yet. [/QUOTE]
I can't believe you're accusing me of being "indifferent" to the lynch when I tried to get Damdred lynched, then when it wasn't done, gave my opinion on my preferred lynch with reasonning. Especially since you weren't even present to discuss anything; and even more especially since in the ONLY game we've played together, I was even more unsure about the lynch that was between you Chez and ruxxar.
So bro, if kush is not scum, you are the one that (1) didn't care about the lynch between two townies, to the point of not being there and (2) already finding suspects based on it.

About my magic find, it took me 20 seconds:
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Sukrit&gb=date]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Sukrit&gb=date[/url]
Voilà.[/QUOTE]

Underline is a past game i do not care for. Indifferent is a lie through:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:34 Rels wrote:
OK I read GB's filter and I understand the votes on him. I don't want to lynch him though 'cause the way he posts reads seems carefree about the consequences, which is not what I expect from an experienced scum, but more from a "I don't care" townie.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:40 Rels wrote:
OK I don't want to lynch TT.
Damdred and kush are my options.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:48 Rels wrote:
Whatever OK to lynch kush. I don't think GB is likely to flip scum.

##Unvote
##Vote kushm4sta
[/QUOTE]

Indifferent my ass. I would explain why but I am so fucking sick from reading this train of webs that i can.

Then Fin
After this, I almost want to vote Rels. Like 98% of me wants to just fucking type this. BUT, i going to do what i said i would do and compare this to his Dark tourament filter. I would HARD compare it like "This is what Rels does" more like just compare and see if he is always so opportunistic
Rels new nickname is Rick, Do not ask why.....


[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 05:32 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Ok. Rels is officially not mafia at all. Never ever.[/QUOTE]
I feel officially buddied.[/QUOTE]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is where damred got his buddy post
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 17 2015 03:16 GMT
#815
Also another reason why you should think I'm Town is because Damdred got a high rate of reading me correctly when he's town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
December 17 2015 03:19 GMT
#816
^LOL I BROKE THE QUOTE FUNCTION BY USING TO MANY. DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT COULD HAPPEN HAHAHA.
Anyways i be on for like 30 mins to a hour, avoiding sleep, but i won't be posting anything. So if you want me say so.

"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 17 2015 03:20 GMT
#817
BTW Shape please fix format or put some in a 2nd post?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
December 17 2015 03:25 GMT
#818
Got a clue to how to fix it, Tried copy and past into a new replay, because i though i hit a limit or something but thats not the case. Its like they do not want to be quoted. Might need to ask host if we cant fix it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
December 17 2015 03:34 GMT
#819
I check the Quote spelling. Correct
Tried breaking it up. Little sucess
And that read took all that was in me out. Damm, if only we had a way to Contact R1CH and tell him to up the quote limit so the server can process all of the requests. Or maybe put in a set in stone limit idk.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 17 2015 03:38 GMT
#820
The bit about his indifference to the GB/Kush lynch is purely subjective on my part. I think he posted those three "guys GB is town" type posts to look like he actually cared when he didn't. they were super low effort posts. Anyway, I know I know confirmation bias but I think his play as a whole is mafia motivated and not town. Anyway, I'm basically done talking about rels as I think I have enough information and have thought about him enough.

Shape is town. He's looking for truth.
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