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Sorry about AFK'ing all day today. Ended up playing games with my brother all day. Slightly demotivated about this game anyways after events with rayn/HTS so it wouldn't have been the most terrible result if we just lost today. Still have to survive through three missions.... Not really confident on teams that would come from Rels or SL, so most likely voting NO on their missions. Seems like there's time to decide the team after voting information from Rels/SL teams and such though, but I'll try to get some work done tomorrow. Recently HTS's posts have been on some sort of subconscious ignore list already, so I guess I'm done trying to even reason about them. Someone asked if I should evaluate her again since some have started townreading her, but I just can't accept her posts to rayn/me could have come from town. They're simply grasping at totally far-fetched reasons to justify suspicion. I guess I'll commend her activity. The motivation to play is there regardless of the motivations for doing things. Anyways, it's 6am here atm :/ gn | ||
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On November 14 2015 04:50 Half the Sky wrote: You need to ask yourself why mafia are NOT trying to bury him (note: I'm not saying this makes you mafia) when he was on both failed missions. I don't know if you are biased somewhat because of how rayn was treating/reading you earlier this game but if you ignore everything he has said and done towards you this game and focus on the way he was reading others, ask yourself if that come from a town or a mafia mindset. (I realise Coag's inactivity isn't helping atm, but that is a separate issue.) Tbf you did try but it didn't work out well  | ||
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On November 14 2015 18:31 Vivax wrote: You funny spy ;> Noone who was in the failed second mission voted yes, so if SL is scum as you say, there's 1 spy who decided not to win the game by voting yes cause ... ?????? I mean.... For the first failed mission, they all voted NO too (except rayn). So.....??? And since when did you scumread me btw? | ||
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On November 14 2015 19:08 Vivax wrote: Since you claimed that 1 spy voted no for some odd reason when they win after sabotaging one more mission. By that logic, why would scum ever vote NO to a fail mission? But clearly they have (unless rayn/Coag is scum which I doubt). In any case, it's not like it's unthinkable to do that to confuse town into thinking exactly like you are / to minimize risks by not betting everything on passing a particular fail team. | ||
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On November 14 2015 19:15 Vivax wrote: But actually I have 1 dumb question, didn't see the answer in the OP. If two spies are on a mission, are there 2 sabotage attempts even outside mission 4 or always just 1? Addendum: This doesn't apply if rayn was mafia. Actually my tinfoil is starting to tingle, cause everyone on mission 2 voted no to a sabotaged mission except rayn himself, and I really didn't get why he was scumreading Shockey. But if he's spy it makes sense cause then he was able to replace a no-voter with himself as spy. See pre-game. Scum can choose to sabotage or not, so there should be only one sabotage regardless of how many scum were on a mission. | ||
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On November 14 2015 20:13 sicklucker wrote: also if we exlude coag all 5 of the remianing players I believe are willing to townread and vote each other so their is not much more to talk about. Thats the five guaranteed votes we need to win the game and have auto. GG guys I think im done posting other then voting Its auto. If we all stop talking mafia should concede its a solid strat imo lol | ||
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On November 14 2015 20:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Uh, why would I start doubting you harder and position myself to vote no if HtS is my scumbuddy, and why would HtS try to make you townread me instead of just going with the team that was on there and fail it herself? Makes no sense. Anyways, as I said, I'm yayvoting any team that doesn't include Xata/Rels/Kita. I'm sure Vivax isn't scum because he could've just yesvoted to win the game and I'm pretty sure he knows it. I'm sure HtS is town for reasons mentioned in this post plus everything I said before about how she doesn't seem to be playing towards a scum agenda at all. I'm pretty sure Shockeyy isn't scum (though he might actually be the one I'm worried about most if I'm wrong on any of them) because he doesn't have any kind of scum motivation and seems way too derpy for it. I'm quite sure SL isn't scum because he's going tryhard still when it's probably already in the bag for him if he's scum and suggesting a mission without himself on it too. That, and Kita/Rels/Xata all looking pretty awful helps. How am I very awful btw? rayn probably knows me the best around TL Mafia and said he was more sure about me being town in this game than about anything else. You also say that he's town so how does that lead to me being scum? | ||
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On November 14 2015 20:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh and I'm quite amused that Kita's PoE basically left him with having to scumread himself now that Vivax is basically confirmed town. I don't think that's how it works :D hahaha | ||
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On November 14 2015 19:47 Vivax wrote: Yea I'm not that sure on Coag myself. That's why I'm asking if 2 spies on a mission both become visible when sabotaging it. Cause I have the scenario in my head where rayn sends himself with teammate Xata, then blames it on you, then sends himself again along with 3 no voters and scumreads Shockey to have an excuse to send himself onto another mission (he who was a yes voter in every mission scum sabotaged) in order for it to fail. I really don't get how I became scum suddenly for that post. Like, I guess it makes a slight amount of sense if you also assume rayn/Coag is scum, because then it's indeed possible scum *could* have voted like you assume during this game. But if rayn/Coag is town, scum clearly haven't voted in any coordinated fashion (just look at the voting records). So either me+rayn/Coag are scum together (and I'd have sent rayn/Coag with me on the first mission.... really...?) or your argument for me being scum makes no sense. | ||
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On November 14 2015 19:19 sicklucker wrote: also vivax said in thread he was voting yes. so it was very clear there was going ot be 4 town votes. the surprising part was he didnt but ya. if kita/rels etc are scum with me they probably vote yes here. I have literally no partners that make sense in the game except maybe artanis. literraly none. I am confirmed town. ALso xata has literally given up on this game anyone with more then 1 game experience can see this. Haha :D In my most recent town game (Vanilla mafia) my activity dropped considerably as the game approached its end as well. Not really even sure why, somehow became demotivated. And by that logic, players like Coag/shockeyy in this game who mostly lurk would be 100% scum... So yeah.... | ||
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On November 14 2015 21:02 Vivax wrote: Xata, who was the spy on the mission you issued? SL probably. I agree that rayn/Coag has the worst mission/vote record (besides HTS), but other things still point more to him being town (his balanced attitude to the game as opposed to his very aggressive/agenda-driven attitude as scum in VS, and his lack of care for getting modkilled etc.). SL also has things against him like first scumreading me, then suddenly townreading me when I put him on the mission with me (meaning he could easily sabotage the mission just by townreading me at that moment). | ||
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(which includes YES voting every failteam without being on any of them herself, and also YES voting the very likely failteam just now). | ||
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HTS is the most likely other scum yeah. Her terrible vote record and bullshit reasons to push me/rayn after the first fail should be reason enough. The last scum I'm not sure about atm. I thought it was Rels, but then he voted NO to the team just now....... Hm. I guess it could be Artanis as well. His vote record approaches HTS levels of bad if we include this most recent vote. It's probably not you, also considering the most recent vote as well. Meh. But SL/HTS I'm like 95+% are scum at least. | ||
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On November 14 2015 21:17 Vivax wrote: Xata why did Rels vote no if SL is mafia? I take it your reads are SL/HTS/Rels So you aren't making any sense right now. Well, I just talked about that.... Maybe I should do some kita-esque combinatorics with SL/HTS. | ||
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