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The Shining
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On October 18 2015 11:27 GlowingBear wrote: Anyone wants to play SC2 with a complete newbie? I mean, I know the basic commands, but I suck I stopped playing when my gaming laptop blew up and I had to downgrade to a Macbook. Now League is all I play  | ||
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The Shining
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Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw. | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 04:21 boxerfred wrote: Disclaimer: I haven't read deeply into the thread. I skimmed up to this point. This is going to be gut heavy. First up, going to bring up the one serious interaction I'm in: Yes I'd have rather rolled scum or at least blue. It's (spare last newbie game where I co-hosted) the 3rd or 4th consecutive VT game for me. I don't love the guessing in this game, I love the lying. Obviously I prefer playing scum. Also I think I'm better at scum. Last game I was scum in was actually the game that got a 3 game ban to sicklucker because I was tryhard not conceding as the last scum. Good times. Let's get constructive now: Thus far there's nothing too good to be had. Kelsier is way too active to have rolled scum again given how he reacted last Student Mafia to being scum. MoosyDoosy can be town or scum. I can't read him at all. Gut says "lynch before he misleads town", brain says lynching the (most likely to be) most active player in the game is bullshit. I recommend to not let Shining slip off the radar. He asks lots of specific questions to specific players, thus far me, scott, kelsier, while the rest seems to be banter such as this: I think that can very well be scum pretending to be constructive. Also I see that while MoosyDoosy pushed me, GB insta-defended me. Given they joked around about being scum before (as a resemblence to their last game were they were indeed scum together if I understood correctly) it's a behaviour that might be tying them together. Since afaik BH randomizes roles, how high are the chances that exactly the same constellation is happening again? I don't think so. I can see one of them being scum but not both. I don't know what that is worth but I feel like we should keep that in mind. Chances are they are both town but I don't think so. MD pushed me hard, knowing I'm not the most active player. Can be scum pushing a mislynch (he did so already in the one game we played together). MD is my top scum read atm. Farah feels town to me. This feels genuine. Running out of time (also my finger hurts as fuck) so I'll be gone for another hour or two. Ew. You know, when you admit to just skimming the thread, my eyes kind of glaze over when reading a WoT like this. Like if you're just skimming, how am I supposed to look at this as anything other than just fluffing up the thread and your filter? I'm not sure I believe boxer is genuine here in his anger at supposedly rolling VT. The bit about getting SL banned is a pointless bit of information and NAI. And there isn't really a way to verify whether boxer actually enjoys rolling scum more. I do agree with his read on Kelsier because he pretty much just rolled over and died/conceded N1 as scum last game but his Moosy read is just weird. Too much conflicting talk. He could be scum or town. Some fluff about gut vs brain. And then he's back to me. So he's jumping around oddly in that post. Of course if I'm the only one in thread with GB, and I used to play SC2, I'm not just gonna be a douche and ignore him. I also said at the beginning of the game that I'm trying out a more lax approach because normally I just yell at everyone. So me bantering should be NAI. It's also pretty damn weird that he'd say I'm asking very specific questions to people but pretending to be constructive. And then back to Moosy. So he went Shining, Moosy, Shining, Moosy all in one post. The two people who have either questioned him or scummed him. And how can their behavior be tying them together if, like Moosy pointed out, you also said one can be scum but not the other? Then chances are they at both town but you don't think so? So you're saying they're tied together, then only one scum, then possibly both town but you don't think so? If you don't think so, and Moosy is your top scumread, why even mention that it's possible that they could be both town? | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 04:54 Eversince wrote: I caught up at last! I don't much like Shining at all. especially this This is a big post that says nothing at all really. Farah read is the most generic thing I've seen in a while. Second paragraph is all filler. The most telling point in it is the Moosy read. He's capable of caring so much that he'll buss his entire team to win. The fact that he's not caring this game doesn't bother me though. Yeh, how does that statement make any sense at all unless you already know what alignment Moosy is? Congratulations. You didn't like me last game either and after dealing with your nonsense for a ton of pages, people realized I was town. It's a big post that GB basically requested when he asked everyone to give thoughts on his own big post. Note that I'm not the only one that brought up the WIFOM argument and read on Farrah, but you completely failed to mention ANYONE ELSE except me after completely having caught up. Do you just have it out for me or something? Jesus. The second paragraph is a direct response to GBs thoughts on me. Call it filler to further your anti-Shining narrative that you've pulled through 2 games if you'd like, idc. It's not bothering me because him not caring is not really alignment indicative. And if it is, its more indicative of town since, like I said, hes known to try and try hard as scum. So what exactly are you asking here? | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 04:56 Eversince wrote: Oh goodies, while your here Shining, why the 180 on GB? Oh this ought to b fun. Please do explain my 180 on GB since I have no idea what you're talking about. | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 05:21 Eversince wrote: Prior to that list post you where calling people out for town reading GB implying you didn't have one. What lead you to that town read? OK so you thought Kelsier was the lynch with 9 people not voting? And you think I'm calling "people" out for town reading GB? This reeks of not actually reading the thread after claiming you've caught up. You just looked at some posts and vote count and made some assumptions. I was picking on Scott's weird entrance, since you said "people" instead of Scott and I wanted to see how he got to the GB townread. I'm not sure how you think I implied not having a townread on him when my first read on him was the townlean from the list post. My questioning Scotts townread was to get a better read on Scott, not GB. I didn't have a good read on GB for either alignment but I didn't realize going from no read to slight townlean was a 180. | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 05:26 Eversince wrote: Then getting into a fight with Moosy himself? Some traffic cop... Why not just answer the question? And do you think Kelsier is scum for that, then? | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 05:47 KelsierSC wrote: I agree it felt very haphazrd but I imagined it basically him writing down thoughts as he went through the thread. But then why ask GB and SL what they think of each other at different points instead of asking them about anyone else? Even me? Since he found at least two "bad" posts of mine, why wouldn't he ask them what they thought of me? It felt like he was trying to drive them against each other. I don't see a town motivation behind that. | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote: he asked SL about GB because he had just scumread GB and SL showed up to the thread. then time passes I guess, he town reads GB for that post. Then he asks him about SL...i don't know why, maybe he wants to ask his townread for an opinion. Makes sense but now I'm sad it isn't coming from him. Because he can just agree with what you said now lol. But why not ask your townread for an opinion on someone who's posts you thought were bad? I'd prefer he answered that | ||
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The Shining
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On October 19 2015 05:28 The Shining wrote: OK so you thought Kelsier was the lynch with 9 people not voting? And you think I'm calling "people" out for town reading GB? This reeks of not actually reading the thread after claiming you've caught up. You just looked at some posts and vote count and made some assumptions. I was picking on Scott's weird entrance, since you said "people" instead of Scott and I wanted to see how he got to the GB townread. I'm not sure how you think I implied not having a townread on him when my first read on him was the townlean from the list post. My questioning Scotts townread was to get a better read on Scott, not GB. I didn't have a good read on GB for either alignment but I didn't realize going from no read to slight townlean was a 180. While we're on the subject, and since you haven't acknowledged me since this post even though you've posted, what's your read on GB, ES? | ||
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The Shining
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##Vote: Eversince She STILL never got back to me on any of my posts that SHE asked for. And Farah's case is pretty damn good. Yes I don't play Monday/Tuesday much because I'm rarely, if ever home, and I most likely wont be around for EoD. Take that how you will. I'll do my best to check on mobile but I'm not making any promises. | ||
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The Shining
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The Shining
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Oh and besides Farrah and Vonthin, no one else is town reading me so unless you think they're my scumteam hard aligning, or I've been set up to be bussed from D1, then me being scum is kind of nonsensical. As far as anything else in the thread, I'll reread and do what I feel is useful, when I want to. And before you ask if I have a read on SL, no, I don't, I never do, never have, never will. The guy is an enigma to me and I've said this numerous times before in other games. Unfortunately, because of who he is,I could see that roleswap attempt coming from town. And yeah ES should've definitely been the Vig shot. But what's done is done. | ||
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The Shining
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On October 22 2015 08:29 Eversince wrote: I'm so motivated to think Shining's town now. ##unvote ##Vote: The Shining Remind me never to /in in a game with you ever again. Your tunnels are so fucking poor on me, its pathetic and you've had it out for me in this game and last, for no good reason, since I don't even know who the fuck you are. Like srsly, if you're going to vote me and scum me, at least case me. Not "oh I'm motivated to think he's town now" then slam a vote on me. If you see I'm here, go about you interact with me or figure out how Im scum or town? Nope, instead its just vote. Because Rels wants to lynch me and I'm on a few peoples suspicious list so you want to get my mislynch going. This is not a town mindset. This game you weren't even the interactive player you were last game and you were the other wagon to town Scott. Vig shot was best on you to give us more information on how the lynch turned out. Sorry if that hurt your feelings but its true. Also i still think youre scum so theres that. ##Vote: Eversince | ||
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The Shining
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On October 22 2015 08:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: Wow, apparently my read on you doesn't count. Oh. Didn't see it. OK so 3/10 are towning me. 1 is scum and the other 2 are setting up to ML. Probably Vonthin or Moosy, because scum wouldn't hard defend me like Farrah has. And anyone who's played with me before should be tired of hearing this because it's true, but I just don't really have time or internet access on Mondays Tuesdays. Im gonna go dive Vonthin and Moosy. Initially I'd say lynch Vonthin over Moosy because Vonthins tr on me seems pretty loose and not too explained. There's no Cop as per there being a Vig so I'm not sure why someone who hasn't played with me before and doesn't know me thinks I'm town when according to everyone else, I'm the scummiest town to ever roll town. Moosys isn't much stronger either since its just a weak metaread on me. | ||
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The Shining
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He voted Scott, said he did not want to and was not interested in lynching ES, unvotes, votes SL, tells Farrah he doesn't have time to read her case on ES, tells LM he's town and to vote SL(TMI), then votes ES which he refused to do just to not vote with his scumread in FF? When FF asked him to give him reasons, he said he thinks he could be scum. Then he's gone until he comes back drunk in night phase. Looks hella scummy to me. He waited until Scott was in the lead to put his vote on ES. | ||
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The Shining
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Also this is why I really don't give two shits about this game. Every time I'm in this thread I either get scummed or ignored. It's quite fun. | ||
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The Shining
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On October 22 2015 10:09 sicklucker wrote: well now that gb cant tunnel on me anymore he will have a chance to show some things i hope Well its a good thing he effortlessly decided you're townie now and missed my post scumming him for EoD. Inb4 I get OMGUSd by GB | ||
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The Shining
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On October 22 2015 09:07 The Shining wrote: Remind me never to /in in a game with you ever again. Your tunnels are so fucking poor on me, its pathetic and you've had it out for me in this game and last, for no good reason, since I don't even know who the fuck you are. Like srsly, if you're going to vote me and scum me, at least case me. Not "oh I'm motivated to think he's town now" then slam a vote on me. If you see I'm here, go about you interact with me or figure out how Im scum or town? Nope, instead its just vote. Because Rels wants to lynch me and I'm on a few peoples suspicious list so you want to get my mislynch going. This is not a town mindset. This game you weren't even the interactive player you were last game and you were the other wagon to town Scott. Vig shot was best on you to give us more information on how the lynch turned out. Sorry if that hurt your feelings but its true. Also i still think youre scum so theres that. ##Vote: Eversince I freaking voted you. I shouldn't have to ask you to interact with me after you vote me and I vote you for the same reasons I voted you D1. You should be noticing and doing this on your own, not just slamming a vote on me and then moving onto a completely different topic and vote RE: SL | ||
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